assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00085254 = 4.6463 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00085254 = 8.0991 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00085196 = 23.8975 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    MisterE: afternoon
    
    MisterE: so much for Trollbox world-is-ending spammers, already back to 700
    
    MisterE: how japanese to blame an unrelated and known btc bug for their own crappy internal wallet management
    
    MisterE: Asia saves face at all cost
    
    MisterE: so cant be trusted
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 131 @ 0.0055 = 0.7205 BTC
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.0001899 = 1.4243 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.0001899 = 0.4748 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0001899 = 0.9495 BTC [-]
    
    kakobrekla: moaning
    
    Testing123: okay what was with those 400-500 puts that were sold
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.0001899 = 1.4243 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    Testing123: .1BTC lot with 500 usd strike @ .486 BTC / lot
    
    kakobrekla: what about them
    
    Testing123: under which circumstance does this seller profit?
    
    Testing123: 1 BTC must increase above $5000 usd?
    
    kakobrekla: roughly
    
    ColdHardMetal: that seems...ambitious.
    
    kakobrekla: glbse seemed ambitious as well
    
    ColdHardMetal: fair enough.
    
    kakobrekla: eh im just busting balls
    
    ColdHardMetal: no worries.
    
    MisterE: were most of you trading before BTC?
    
    Testing123: can anyone care to explain to me the purpose of writing the puts? perhaps i just sold a very big amount of btc for fiat?
    
    MisterE: puts are oders the execute at a certian price right?
    
    Testing123: and by lower case i, I mean the seller of puts
    
    MisterE: the/that*
    
    Apocalyptic: puts give you the right to sell an underlying asset at a certain price
    
    Testing123: and someone sold the right to sell BTC for 5000USD
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43397 @ 0.00085254 = 36.9977 BTC [+]
    
    Testing123: baffles me. ill
    
    Testing123: go ponder
    
    
    
    ozbot: Why Doesnt Satoshi Continue Replying on the Forum?
    
    dub: best post
    
    BingoBoingo: Altcoin is going to the moon it seems... https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111
    
    BingoBoingo: 575 satoshis
    
    KRS1: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-protests-mt-gox-dogecoin-hits-wall-street-1435775
    
    ozbot: Cryptocurrency News Round-Up: Protests at Mt Gox as Dogecoin Hits Wall Street
    
    BingoBoingo: In the meantime, Altcoin traded for 575 satoshis, which is a mark I don't think Doge ever reached
    
    KRS1: BingoBoingo: Altcoin never reached mainstream exchanges.
    
    KRS1: Who cares if nobody buys it.
    
    KRS1: Price set by market maker..pfft.
    
    BingoBoingo: KRS1: It's on one really shady exchange. Eventually it will make it to bigger, yet still shady exchanges. It is the way two cans and a string works
    
    BingoBoingo: .bait
    
    
    
    KRS1: Oofuh thats some milker titty there.
    
    BingoBoingo: KRS1: See two cans? Just add string.
    
    KRS1: Hmm so now might be a good time to throw some btc in for some atc eh
    
    KRS1: Yep
    
    KRS1: Is it SHA256?
    
    KRS1: nvm I'll read up
    
    KRS1: Do you think now might be a good time to throw some btc in for some atc?
    
    BingoBoingo: It's SHA256, so you can point your mega 400 GH/s Buttfury at Altcoin solo instead of mining for some oversized bitcoin pool.
    
    BingoBoingo: Who know when a good time to buy or sell is.
    
    BingoBoingo: This is altcoin. Maybe everytime is a good time to buy? Maybe everytime is a good time to sell?
    
    KRS1: I feel yah..hmm never mined solo.
    
    KRS1: hah ya i see why the price is where it is..the coin is scarce..once theres more supply its going to drop like a bitch.
    
    BingoBoingo: Maybe drop, Maybe Moon? What does "is" mean anyways.
    
    KRS1: Domino's Pizza and foods have made major improvements. I was impressed last time I ordered from there.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0489 = 0.978 BTC [+]
    
    Namworld: ##mtgox-otc
    
    Namworld: arf
    
    Namworld: Missed a /join there
    
    Namworld: KRS1, Domino's online ordering is amazing. Especially the coupons they offer.
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04760001 = 0.238 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.19376446 = 9.6882 BTC [+]
    
    cazalla: i wouldn't eat domino's if you gave it to me for free
    
    cazalla: better to spend $40 on quality instead of that cardboard $6 crap
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
    
    KRS1: the point was it has improved a lot
    
    KRS1: Namworld: I love the color scheme
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00019489 = 0.7796 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    KRS1: Their food made papa johns taste like ass, which it does. They seemed to have taken the lead there.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.12491249 = 0.9993 BTC [+] {7} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00085045 = 22.707 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.127 = 0.254 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00085018 = 22.0622 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    KRS1: .bait
    
    ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/6d29d3894d2c7dfef788a67a1154d7c5/tumblr_mqkbyjl1tG1stmlapo1_1280.jpg
    
    KRS1: Milf.
    
    KRS1: .bait
    
    ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/42d48377996169dc85c91ac42383550b/tumblr_mv4gm0XznN1swclmpo1_500.jpg
    
    KRS1: Fap fap.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 18 @ 0.05509994 = 0.9918 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    PsychoticBoy: SO...... hopefully you guys were not stupid enough to have any funds on cox
    
    KRS1: lmao! ya..nobody in this chat room I'm sure.
    
    PsychoticBoy: nobody is a big word
    
    PsychoticBoy: That is what I thought, but then I heard ppl cry
    
    PsychoticBoy: so I was wrong
    
    KRS1: eh
    
    PsychoticBoy: some are stupid enough, prob not in this channel but overall there are enough ppl who were miljonair and are now broke :)
    
    KRS1: Haha
    
    KRS1: sux for them
    
    punkman: they wanted the gox premium, they got it
    
    KRS1: Haha well put
    
    cazalla: wonder if anyone necked themselves
    
    KRS1: Makes you think, huh
    
    KRS1: Gotta have brass balls and a 10ft dick if you go hard into trading.
    
    cazalla: surely there are some whales who held large amounts of coin there
    
    cazalla: if you come from wealth, it wouldn't be so bad but imagine getting so lucky to have a couple million $ in coins only to have likely lost it on gox now
    
    cazalla: "eazy come, eazy go" - eazy e
    
    cazalla: as for domino's, i was speaking to the australian version, nfi what american domino's is like
    
    MisterE: haha punkman they got cold Goxed
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 263 @ 0.00300372 = 0.79 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 332 @ 0.00301014 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 32 @ 0.06920941 = 2.2147 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0735 = 0.2205 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.12221001 = 0.2444 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05509994 = 0.1102 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00302852 = 0.3029 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.57100003 = 2.284 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0055 = 0.165 BTC
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02520371 = 0.1512 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.19376446 = 1.9376 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
    
    ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu http://blog.coinbase.com/post/76315615202/coinbase-partners-with-fiverr-first-large-services
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.131 BTC [+]
    
    nubbins`: it's a lovely day to be ignorant!
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell herbijudlestoids pools typically give you shares and those lead to coins when someone in the pool solves a block.
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2831 @ 0.00019496 = 0.5519 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18285 @ 0.00085289 = 15.5951 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15615 @ 0.00085504 = 13.3514 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-as-safe-as-wire-transfers-says-ny-hedge-fund/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00085558 = 29.9453 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02521051 = 0.2521 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 600 @ 0.0001949 = 0.1169 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.07607142 = 0.5325 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    KRS1: coindesk
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.071 = 0.142 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.124 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 41 @ 0.02520903 = 1.0336 BTC [-] {8} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.12525 = 0.2505 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    azi`: too lazy to check.. is there a bet on bitbets about gox not returning funds?
    
    
    
    ozbot: BitBet - MtGox out of business in 2014
    
    kakobrekla: i guess this is the closest
    
    azi`: i didn't even considered this could be a bet as well
    
    ThickAsThieves: so apparently black people invented punk now too? http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/02/10/274180682/song-premiere-death-north-street
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05509994 = 0.1102 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00085559 = 11.0799 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00085637 = 5.8661 BTC [+]
    
    nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: didn't invent it, just brought it to america ;D
    
    nubbins`: death + bad brains
    
    ThickAsThieves: death reall aint bad
    
    nubbins`: haven't honestly heard of them until just now, but i've been on a big BB kick lately, so i think i'm gonna download some
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's kinda clash-y
    
    ThickAsThieves: i wonder how things wouldve turned out if theywere white
    
    nubbins`: nod
    
    nubbins`: it's funny, death started as r&b and bad brains started as jazz fusion
    
    
    
    Apocalyptic: rofl openex uses google analytics
    
    nubbins`: "our women are tired of boys"
    
    Apocalyptic: altcoin really hit the best exchange
    
    nubbins`: they're also tired of suppressing their tourette's, apparently
    
    
    
    ozbot: The REAL Altcoin : altcoin
    
    nubbins`: the price will only go up!
    
    mike_c: it's virtually priceless.
    
    ThickAsThieves: i replaced lines there
    
    nubbins`: aww, just as i was about to ask whether it was officially a pump and dump now
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00085637 = 4.8813 BTC [+]
    
    nubbins`: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-as-safe-as-wire-transfers-says-ny-hedge-fund/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00047498 = 0.475 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    Apocalyptic: "as-safe-as-wire-transfers" is an understatement
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12666666 = 0.38 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    mike_c: nubbins`: have you seen this guy's post? a counter-argument to altcoin is a bad thing.
    
    
    
    ozbot: [SHA256] Altcoin
    
    nubbins`: usurprisingly, i haven't :D
    
    mike_c: yes, who would want to see evidence of a valid opposing viewpoint? :)
    
    nubbins`: who would want to read a thread about altcoin? ;p
    
    nubbins`: anyway, he makes valid points, but nothing atc-specific
    
    Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, don't you think you're pushing this joke too far ?
    
    nubbins`: "I choose ... ATC as well, a school, a place where I can screw up and have a do-over. As someone well aware that he is absolutely not qualified to host yet another Bitcoin exchange or other high-value, high-risk site, ATC seems a fine lab environment to write code around a tiny blockchain, create wallets, sites, services"
    
    mike_c: exactly.  everybody loses money when learning cryptocurrency.  i wish i had lost some ATC instead of BTC when learning.
    
    nubbins`: the guy's argument is essentially that ATC is the new testnet
    
    nubbins`: if only btc had one of those
    
    ThickAsThieves: Apocalyptic why can't it just be what it is?
    
    ThickAsThieves: doesnt need to be a joke or a pump n dump
    
    Apocalyptic: it obviously can
    
    nubbins`: heh.
    
    nubbins`: wait, so it's not a joke anymore?
    
    nubbins`: that was fast
    
    mike_c: i feel a herbirage coming on.
    
    ThickAsThieves: it just happened
    
    ThickAsThieves: there was no plan to swindle
    
    ThickAsThieves: and we're all enjoying it mostly
    
    ThickAsThieves: so fuckit
    
    jurov: so you'll be more liberal in accepting various patches?
    
    
    
    jborkl: did it get listed on a echange?
    
    jurov: i have multi-vag ..er.. multi-wallet patch for bitcoind pending
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.57645688 = 5.1881 BTC [+] {4} 
    
    nubbins`: hmm, i've heard this "freakin' out" song before
    
    ThickAsThieves: cool
    
    jborkl: exchange
    
    nubbins`: death is actually really good
    
    nubbins`: i'm enjoying this
    
    jurov: would it stand a chance?
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's listed at openex.pw
    
    
    
    ozbot: OpenEx
    
    ThickAsThieves: proceed with caution
    
    ThickAsThieves: the exchange is open source
    
    mike_c: better exchange is otc order book or #altcoin
    
    ThickAsThieves: that works too
    
    Apocalyptic: to da moon
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.128 = 0.256 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    davout: i'll add ATC to bitcoin-central, just as a troll to litecoiners
    
    mike_c: make sure you buy some first ;)
    
    ThickAsThieves: sweet
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's already going for like 500sat
    
    davout: srs business
    
    nubbins`: oh, wait, i've TOTALLY heard these guys before.
    
    nubbins`: where do we go from here!
    
    davout: nubbins`: TO. THE. MOON.
    
    nubbins`: davout, i'm quoting lyrics now ;(
    
    nubbins`: although i guess that is where we go from here
    
    jurov: damn, you got me hinking srsly about possible capital requirements to X.ATC
    
    ThickAsThieves: don;t forget to upvote the reddit then
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;)
    
    davout: altcoin is good and sound money
    
    
    
    nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: thanks, i never would have found this band on my own
    
    davout: made from 0.8
    
    davout: to the moon
    
    davout: the atc haiku
    
    ThickAsThieves: NPR knows what's up sometimes
    
    nubbins`: from what i understand, it's like the american CBC
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's arguably one of the last real news providers we have
    
    ThickAsThieves: reddit is exploding macbooks now too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcl6BV1r3gU
    
    jurov: why macbooks? they caught stealthcoin?
    
    ThickAsThieves: cuz apple
    
    ThickAsThieves: cuz culture
    
    nubbins`: cuz buying something and breaking it hurts the company that made it
    
    HeySteve: it's a Statement
    
    HeySteve: like listening to certain musics
    
    ThickAsThieves: or using words
    
    HeySteve: or having one of those haircuts
    
    diametric: pankkake: heard you were giving away leet amounts of ATC
    
    pankkake: no, mircea_popescu does
    
    mike_c: pankkake is atc broker to the stars
    
    nubbins`: ^
    
    nubbins`: HeySteve, haircuts are for suckers
    
    diametric: damn i have to work for my atc i guess
    
    nubbins`: real men cut their own hair
    
    diametric: i just shave my head, hair is overrated
    
    diametric: its annoying and pointless
    
    nubbins`: my clippers are fucked, can't use them anymore
    
    nubbins`: can you sharpen those, i wonder?
    
    ThickAsThieves: probly cheaper to by anew
    
    ThickAsThieves: buy
    
    nubbins`: TBF they're like $20 clippers
    
    nubbins`: altho apparently all i need is a sharpening stone
    
    nubbins`: job for this evening
    
    nubbins`: i haven't shaved my face with a razor in about four years and i'm not about to start again
    
    Asa9: i have my wife give me crew cuts and she does my beard
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00085559 = 17.8818 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    HeySteve: haircuts are a waste of time
    
    HeySteve: I stick my head in a bonfire for a few seconds, all done
    
    jurov: iirc orthodox do jews use some kind of acid to get shaved kosher (it's forbidden to use blades)
    
    jurov: no need to make bonfires
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45838 @ 0.00085242 = 39.0732 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    jurov: or they don't shave at all, ofc
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.00083265 = 0.3331 BTC [+] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.19376446 = 1.7439 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.40910887 BTC to 1`469 shares, 95923 satoshi per share
    
    twizt: j #hexs
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 503 @ 0.00300101 = 1.5095 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0689 = 0.2756 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    HeySteve2: <jurov> iirc orthodox do jews use some kind of acid to get shaved kosher (it's forbidden to use blades) <- I guess that's why they call them... acidic Jews hoho
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04776011 = 1.4328 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.07202354 = 1.2964 BTC [+] {10} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0739 = 0.1478 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05509995 = 0.3306 BTC [+]
    
    ThickAsThieves: lol
    
    Asa9: lol acidic jews
    
    Asa9: For a fun time, take LSD and study the Talmud!
    
    Asa9: fun time had by all!
    
    ThickAsThieves: removes stains!
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12400004 = 0.496 BTC [-]
    
    ThickAsThieves: smart guys, sony http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/11/5401084/sony-mp3-player-comes-inside-bottle-of-water
    
    davout: ThickAsThieves: that's old news, it's like what, six hours old
    
    KRS1: ThickAsThieves: hidejo kids, hide yo wife, hide yo ATC, doge comin fo ya
    
    KRS1: headed to 300 now
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/11/j-p-morgan-weighs-in-on-bitcoin/?mod=WSJBlog
    
    ozbot: J.P. Morgan Weighs In on Bitcoin - MoneyBeat - WSJ
    
    ThickAsThieves: "At the risk of sounding like a luddite unable to recognize the transformative effects of evolving technologies –– bitcoin looks like an innovation worth limiting exposure to."
    
    ThickAsThieves: “As a medium of exchange, unit of account and store of value, it is vastly inferior to fiat currencies.
    
    ThickAsThieves: “With fixed supply, bitcoin’s deflationary bias should also be clear. That quality serves owners well when exchanging into foreign currency, but it would be onerous for any economy operating with it as legal tender. Indeed Weimar Germany was unpleasant, but so was the Great Depression.”
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xmf8u/i_just_launched_a_new_exchange_for_gox_btc_real/
    
    ozbot: I just launched a new exchange for Gox BTC <=> Real BTC : Bitcoin
    
    ThickAsThieves: "1GOXBTC=583.00USD"
    
    ThickAsThieves: gox is so bad they are a fork now
    
    Majjiok: what a joke
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00085599 = 28.4189 BTC [+]
    
    KRS1: wow
    
    ThickAsThieves: an amazing thing happened to me today, i made a controversial comment on a local news website, when they deleted it, i left another comment asking why they deleted my reasonable questions. They restored my original comment and deleted the new one.
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    KRS1: dudes..big problems
    
    KRS1: so like this mallebility problem, manifesting as ddos now but its not ddos it seems it could be coming from the network itself.
    
    
    
    ozbot: Bitcoin withdrawal processing suspended - Bitstamp
    
    Majjiok: buy buy buy
    
    KRS1: tx vulnerability ogeeze
    
    KRS1: SOMEONE GET FONTAS ON THE RED PHONE!!!   Find out where Wolong is!! Get the helicopters warmed up!
    
    ThickAsThieves: bitstamp got goxed
    
    ThickAsThieves: great
    
    Majjiok: ThickAsThieves: this is probably the best buying opportunity since the fork in early 2013
    
    twizt: pretty sure its heading lower
    
    punkman1: distributed goxing
    
    ThickAsThieves: probly
    
    ThickAsThieves: but you never know
    
    twizt: close above 635 = bullish
    
    twizt: otherwise down down down
    
    KRS1: .bait
    
    
    
    KRS1: .bait
    
    
    
    KRS1: When the going gets tough, the tough gets FAPPing.
    
    twizt: lol
    
    twizt: only took 2 bait that time?
    
    KRS1: fap fap fap!
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.071 = 0.142 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.12400004 = 0.248 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
    
    Majjiok: ThickAsThieves: sorry, what "you never know"?
    
    ThickAsThieves: anything can happen
    
    ThickAsThieves: maybe bitstamp opens again in 1 hour
    
    ThickAsThieves: i dunno
    
    Majjiok: ThickAsThieves: well, price is plummeting right bnow
    
    ThickAsThieves: well ive been selling ;)
    
    TomServo: ThickAsThieves | 1Enjoy1C4bYBr3tN4sMKxvvJDqG8NkdR4Z  is sending random dust to me << I'm seeing that as well, a couple from 1Sochi too
    
    Majjiok: TomServo: that guy is sending dust to everybody
    
    TomServo: Majjiok: What's the story there?
    
    Majjiok: TomServo: that's something that has been happening forever. Its probably a tracking attempt.
    
    Majjiok: When you'll spend that dust, the address that received it will be linked to other addresses owned by you
    
    Majjiok: so the sender of the dust will be effectively able to determine that one single person/entity controls that set of addresses
    
    TomServo: Interesting.  Is there a way to prevent spending the dust?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 182 @ 0.0008343 = 0.1518 BTC [+]
    
    pankkake: yes. clients like Armory, the Coin Control patch for bitcoin-qt…
    
    Majjiok: exactly. Coin control, which just means that you get to choose from what addresses you are going to spend the coins - thus you can avoid spending coins from the address in which you have received the "tracking device" :)
    
    ThickAsThieves: not exactly practical
    
    Majjiok: Anyhow: if you are worried about privacy then you should always use Tor with Bitcoin-QT, plus coinjoin/mixing for most of your transactions. By default is very easy to link addresses owned by the same person.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.0001899 = 0.7596 BTC [-]
    
    punkman: btc-e fixed themselves: https://twitter.com/btcecom/statuses/433279984614899712
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11709 @ 0.00018984 = 2.2228 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [+]
    
    deadweasel: punkman: those comments don't agree with their 'fix'
    
    dexX7: litecoin withdrawals seem not to be affected
    
    Majjiok: dexX7: because no body is spamming the LTC network with modified transactions
    
    punkman: someone in the trollbox said they couldn't withdraw LTC either
    
    the20year3: Have any bitcoin based securities issued PPMs?
    
    benkay: not to my knowlege, the20year3, but I haven't read *everything* yet
    
    Jere_Jones: PPM?
    
    the20year3: Back in july it seemed a few companies were going to have lawyer-drafted ones, but they never came out, we should have ours out in 10 days, so i'm curious why no one else had them
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12400004 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    the20year3: private placement memorandum, what the SEC wants to take investment
    
    Jere_Jones: ty
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0058001 = 0.145 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12400004 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    
    
    ozbot: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal
    
    benkay: because most bitcoin-soliciting "securities" are either a) actually scams or b) don't give two shits about the US regulatory landscape.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.07041 = 0.7041 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.06967726 = 1.5329 BTC [-] {5} 
    
    jurov: !t m s.mpoe
    
    assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084969 / 0.00085555 / 0.00086193 (821245 shares, 702.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00082189 / 0.00086903 / 0.00093912 (6351344 shares, 5,519.55 BTC), 30D: 0.00082189 / 0.00090299 / 0.00101414 (26633262 shares, 24,049.67 BTC)
    
    jurov: !t m s.bbet
    
    assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00062099 / 0.00062099 / 0.00062299 (9360 shares, 5.81 BTC), 30D: 0.0006 / 0.00069705 / 0.0009 (16002 shares, 11.15 BTC)
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 200 @ 0.00060598 = 0.1212 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
    
    benkay: !t h rent
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (3640 shares, 20.02000000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (28629 shares, 157.45950000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (28629 shares, 157.45950000 BTC)
    
    benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
    
    gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 649.2, Best ask: 650.23, Bid-ask spread: 1.03000, Last trade: 649.78, 24 hour volume: 81639.42, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 690.66
    
    benkay: ;;calc 157.5 * 690.66
    
    gribble: 108778.95
    
    mike_c: hardly seems worth the effort for 100k
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00578999 = 0.579 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00085733 = 23.9195 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    benkay: that's three whole houses, man.
    
    benkay: scale of ambition, i tell ya...
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 183 @ 0.00578999 = 1.0596 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 122 @ 0.00367499 = 0.4483 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00086078 = 20.5726 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 51 @ 0.00476201 = 0.2429 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0694 = 0.2082 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 67 @ 0.52118682 = 34.9195 BTC [-] {31} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.49675294 = 8.4448 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1255 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0721 = 0.1442 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1251 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    benkay: is this really a ddos?
    
    benkay: this transaction diddling thing that someone's engaging in?
    
    benkay: and what scale is it actually occuring on?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00578999 = 0.579 BTC [-]
    
    mod6: hard to know for sure.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
    
    jurov: coinroll got hit, it was about 3 of 50 transactions
    
    the20year3: with what, maleability?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00086198 = 31.0313 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    jurov: yes. but as one can't withdraw from there until all deposits get confirmed
    
    jurov: it was just matter of cleaning up
    
    BingoBoingo: benkay: It is mostly people not understanding what parts of transaction matter (inputs, outputs, and signature) and parts the network couldn't care less about (txid hash)
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1981 @ 0.003 = 5.943 BTC [-]
    
    jurov: not even that
    
    jurov: kjust track spent inputs
    
    Apocalyptic: ^
    
    BingoBoingo: Once shit gets mined, then maybe care more about a txid
    
    pankkake: https://torrentfreak.com/how-pirate-bay-came-close-to-hosting-on-north-korean-soil-140211/
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00086346 = 27.8034 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12500001 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1086 @ 0.00018235 = 0.198 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4489 @ 0.00018234 = 0.8185 BTC [-]
    
    nubbins`: epic finds at the record store today
    
    nubbins`: black sabbath's first album, primus, and a talking heads live double lp
    
    Duffer1: i didn't primus had vinyl
    
    Duffer1: which one is it?
    
    nubbins`: seas of cheese
    
    nubbins`: they had 3 or 4
    
    nubbins`: shit gets reissued all the time on vinyl too, hard to keep track
    
    Duffer1: wtb tales from the punchbowl in vinyl
    
    nubbins`: the talking heads double is 180gram, sounds like my ears are being tickled
    
    Duffer1: ha
    
    nubbins`: thye had frizzle fry and brown album there as well
    
    nubbins`: frrom primus
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00578999 = 0.2316 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00570905 = 0.1199 BTC [-] {5} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00086353 = 3.6735 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16065 @ 0.00086582 = 13.9094 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1070 @ 0.00086637 = 0.927 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.00303017 = 0.8333 BTC [+] {6} 
    
    punkman1: Node.js is so hip even their package manager gets VC funding
    
    Apocalyptic: wtf am I reading
    
    
    
    Mats_cd03: I'm deep frying a turkey in my house atm
    
    Mats_cd03: I love the smell of danger.
    
    Mats_cd03: I could die at any moment, but at least I have chicken
    
    fghj: Hello, Namword how is btc-bond doing?
    
    deadweasel: in your house?
    
    deadweasel: maybe that hsould happen outside?
    
    deadweasel: should*
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 223 @ 0.00045008 = 0.1004 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    BingoBoingo: deadweasel: A little danger only hurts occasionally...
    
    deadweasel: hurts me regularly.
    
    deadweasel: torn ligament sheath and twisted foot righ nao
    
    BingoBoingo: Ouch
    
    deadweasel: meh, they gave me some oxycodone.
    
    deadweasel: and i would set myself on fire if I tried what you're doing.
    
    deadweasel: i *am* murphys law
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3291 @ 0.00018234 = 0.6001 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00086376 = 3.4119 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7250 @ 0.00018234 = 1.322 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00018233 = 0.9117 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate Namworld 1 Handled the closure of BTC-BOND responsibly and kept up with payments until my account was settled.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Namworld has been recorded.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00018016 = 0.4504 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25235 @ 0.00086637 = 21.8628 BTC [+]
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate jurov 1 Helped with some share transfers, and helped keep me safe during a Bitfunder scare.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 Runs MPEx like a champ, helpful in clearing most any fog.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust parseval
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user parseval: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=parseval | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=parseval | Rated since: Thu May  2 21:38:21 2013
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate parseval 1 Very helpful in transitioning some web software and assisting the team.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user parseval has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate topace 1 Assisted with some share transfers, has been helpful in Havelock dealings.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user topace has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust Ukyo
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user Ukyo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=Ukyo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Ukyo | Rated since: never
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust Ukto
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user Ukto: Level 1: 1, Level 2: -2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=Ukto | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Ukto | Rated since: Wed Jun 15 00:24:56 2011
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate Ukto -10 Managed Bitfunder poorly, lost money for many people, poor communications in the aftermath.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Ukto has changed from 1 to -10.
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust Tradefortress
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user Tradefortress: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=Tradefortress | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Tradefortress | Rated since: Mon Sep 24 00:10:15 2012
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate TradeFortress -10 Scammed many people through various internet services then disappeared.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user TradeFortress has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust garr255
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user garr255: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=garr255 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=garr255 | Rated since: Sat Jun 16 15:01:31 2012
    
    jurov: TAT's day of reckoning
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate garr255 -10 Scammed with fake mining outfit, using socks to manipulate auctions, etc
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user garr255 has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: Am I missing anyone?
    
    ThickAsThieves: surely
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate aethero -10 Sullied everything the WoT stands for. Scammed via Ziggap and BTCJam
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user aethero has changed from 1 to -10.
    
    Apocalyptic: TAT on a rating spree
    
    ThickAsThieves: sorry if it'
    
    ThickAsThieves: s spammy
    
    dexX7: lawl
    
    ThickAsThieves: I figure people might like to know
    
    Apocalyptic: it's not more spammy than our chess games so i guess it's ok
    
    mike_c: did anyone end up winnign that tournament?
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate 10 ineededausername Did many bulk share purchases with and without escrow.
    
    gribble: Error: 'ineededausername' is not a valid integer.
    
    davout: Apocalyptic: you guys played chess on assets? that's cool
    
    Apocalyptic: davout, yeah
    
    davout: who played? and who won?
    
    jurov: mp funded a tournament, afaik it didn't finish yet
    
    jurov: but am not keeping track
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate gsan 1 Reliable trader
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user gsan has been recorded.
    
    davout: jurov: why does a chess tournament over the internet need funding?
    
    davout: or just point me to the logs :-)
    
    mike_c: someone has to pay for the trophy
    
    Mats_cd03: I am a god in the kitchen
    
    davout: mike_c: aah i see
    
    davout: prolly too late to register i presume
    
    nubbins`: wait, there's a trophy?
    
    nubbins`: ;;seen truffles
    
    gribble: truffles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <truffles> guess we'll have to wait til things shift
    
    mike_c: i don't think there is actually a trophy.  but mp put up a prize
    
    mike_c: as did BingoBoingo
    
    Apocalyptic: wasn't aware either
    
    Namworld: ThickAsThieves, ineededausername rating failed.
    
    Apocalyptic: I just played Bingo once and truffles on chess.com several times
    
    davout: i want to play IRC poker
    
    Mats_cd03: I want to play
    
    KRS-One: I'll take a rating for being so cool.
    
    KRS-One: thxz
    
    jurov: you are not so cool as vexual
    
    Namworld: ;:rate KRS-One -1 Cheap point whore. Would not recommend. Pay more for better quality.
    
    jurov: but vexual is supposedly too cool to get into wot :/
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 123 @ 0.00083444 = 0.1026 BTC [+]
    
    Namworld: It would vex vexual's sexuality to be in wot.
    
    Namworld: Wouldn't be able to handle it.
    
    BingoBoingo: davout: It is still continuing. To my knowledge it is a four way round robin. Right now I'm 2-1 having lost to namworld and beat nubbins` and truffles. I think Namworld and truffles are 1-1 and nubbins` is 0-1.
    
    BingoBoingo: If this ends up a 3 way tie I dunno what tie breakers would be yet.
    
    davout: ;;rate KRS-One 1 Mildly cool rating whore
    
    gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
    
    BingoBoingo: Or a two way tie for that matter
    
    davout: wai u no work wot
    
    Apocalyptic: davout, ;;rate [ident KRS-One]
    
    davout: ;;rate 1 KRS-One Mildly cool rating whore
    
    gribble: Error: 'KRS-One' is not a valid integer.
    
    davout: lol nvm, the universe doesn't want me to rate KRS-One
    
    Namworld: U wot mate?
    
    Namworld: No?
    
    Namworld: Oh okay.
    
    davout: BingoBoingo: a four way round-robin sounds like some orgy variant, that means there are four players each playing in turn against each of the other ones ?
    
    BingoBoingo: davout: Yeah.
    
    BingoBoingo: nubbins` was in the tournament spec even though he was the last to begin playing
    
    davout: BingoBoingo: does the algorithm allow for latecomers?
    
    BingoBoingo: davout: I dunno ask MP
    
    moiety: hihi
    
    moiety: bitstamp has halted too?
    
    BingoBoingo: moiety: Bitstamp also uses two cans and a string
    
    moiety: lol!
    
    moiety: i was just reading ars
    
    
    
    ozbot: Twitter / davidmarcus: My card (with EMV chip) got ...
    
    moiety: how is everyone today?
    
    davout: pankkake: hah yeah, the merchant would have been fucked instead
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 49 @ 0.50741182 = 24.8632 BTC [-] {13} 
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;rate ineededausername 10 Did many bulk share purchases with and without escrow.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user ineededausername has been recorded.
    
    ThickAsThieves: thanks nam
    
    jurov: inb4 <mircea_popescu> mpex deprecated withdrawals first
    
    jurov: (was a running joke sometime last year)
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/11/carl-icahn-calls-for-glass-steagall-to-return/?mod=WSJBlog
    
    ozbot: Carl Icahn Calls for Glass-Steagall to Return - MoneyBeat - WSJ
    
    
    
    ozbot: Crowdsourced RoboCop Remake Is Not Even Remotely SFW | Underwire | Wired.com
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00560905 = 0.129 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.0056998 = 0.3363 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0056998 = 0.171 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3781 @ 0.00087046 = 3.2912 BTC [+]
    
    
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00552489 = 0.6077 BTC [-] {5} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54999999 BTC [+]
    
    pgp: well there soes seem to be some interesting progress
    
    
    
    ozbot: MtGox Bitcoin Transaction Queue
    
    pgp: far fewer in here now
    
    pgp: wrong chan
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00086956 = 15.4782 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17876 @ 0.00086376 = 15.4406 BTC [-]
    
    deeee: hello
    
    KRS-One: deeeeeeeeeee
    
    deeee: i made 15k
    
    deeee: today!
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.0054165 = 0.715 BTC [-] {9} 
    
    asciilifeform: 15k of what?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2500 @ 0.00011118 = 0.278 BTC [-] {5} 
    
    deeee: usd
    
    deeee: can anyone tell me if http://www.bitbet.com/ is a virus
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00086823 = 6.859 BTC [+]
    
    pankkake: lol
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54999998 BTC [-]
    
    jurov: someone got infected by bitbet?
    
    pankkake: it's a disease, start playing, can't stop
    
    mike_c: i tried to think of a good bitbet for Altcoin, but nothing crystallized.
    
    pankkake: there was one, and it ended up being close
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54999998 BTC [-]
    
    mike_c: really? for the real altcoin?
    
    pankkake: yes
    
    
    
    ozbot: BitBet - Altcoin diff to be power of four  BTC block 285000
    
    mike_c: heh, nice.  i was thinking along the lines of "an altcoin will be worth $1 in 2014", but verifying is hard.
    
    pankkake: you'd need exchanges. when things are listed in coinmarketcap, it's much more practical, too
    
    mike_c: maybe that should be it.  as verified by coinmarketcap.  then if it never gets listed, it resolves as no
    
    moiety: i should really get a wallet huh
    
    moiety: the snowden bitbet is still pending two days on
    
    Duffer1: link?
    
    
    
    ozbot: BitBet - Next country for Snowden: Germany
    
    Duffer1: oh
    
    moiety: it would be a really bad move
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00086823 = 6.5985 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.559 = 2.236 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00086714 = 3.2084 BTC [-]
    
    jurov: g++ -c -march=native -ftree-vectorize -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/opt/altcoin/src -I/opt/altcoin/src/obj -I/usr/include/db4.8 -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/opt/altcoin/src/leveldb/include -I/opt/altcoin/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/bitcoinrpc.d -o obj/bitco
    
    jurov: o bitcoinrpc.cpp
    
    jurov: BITCOINRPC in Altcoin?!!! Blasphemy!
    
    asciilifeform: 'make' is for lusers?
    
    jurov: ain't need no filthy make
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12500005 = 0.5 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 70 @ 0.02493859 = 1.7457 BTC [-] {8} 
    
    asciilifeform: often wonder when/if we'll see a sane reimplementation of bitcoind.
    
    jurov: define sane
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15857 @ 0.00086365 = 13.6949 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    jurov: if original is insane, then there can't be both sane and compatible reimplementation
    
    asciilifeform: minus the crud (i.e. straight C, with nothing extraneous or ill-fitting)
    
    jurov: have you seen the sx?
    
    jurov: or how did ganjix call it
    
    
    
    
    
    ozbot: The sx Tutorial — sx 1 documentation
    
    jurov: it's in C
    
    asciilifeform: looks like it's using libbitcoin, more cpp crud.
    
    jurov: prolly i confused it with this: https://github.com/MatthewLM/cbitcoin/
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: never seen before. neat.
    
    asciilifeform: assuming it works.
    
    fghj: bitbet.com it would be good squat for scaming, just like the one with sdice .com .net or .org 2yrs ago
    
    jurov: asciilifeform if you happen to look deeper, let us know
    
    asciilifeform: now if only the author were still 'bob the bridge-builder'
    
    asciilifeform: rather than the other, 'new' bob.
    
    nubbins`: heh.
    
    asciilifeform: 'life ain't fair,' goats cannot be unfucked.
    
    asciilifeform: if the rewrite were compact enough to be auditable with reasonable effort, it would be worth considering regardless of the authorship
    
    asciilifeform: but it remains to be seen whether such a thing is possible.
    
    jurov: pankkake: still selling them?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 310 @ 0.00086714 = 0.2688 BTC [+]
    
    asciilifeform: crackpot theory follows. 'you read it here first' (TM)
    
    asciilifeform: the diddled-tx DDOS is perpetrated by: 'btc foundation' devs.
    
    mike_c: so they can come to the rescue and appear relevant? i like it.
    
    asciilifeform: nope
    
    asciilifeform: the buggers want an excuse to fiddle with previously-untouched code in satoshi's client.
    
    asciilifeform: not necessarily with the goal of slipping in some strange
    
    mike_c: aren't all the btc foundation devs in jail by now?
    
    asciilifeform: (probably beyond their feeble muscles)
    
    jurov: lol mike_c
    
    asciilifeform: but to set precedent for introducing 'features' and fixes to non-existent problems
    
    asciilifeform: also to zap the die-hards still using old versions.
    
    jurov: asciilifeform: it's indeed beyond them. if they were truly scammy, they would have done something simple like stealthcoin
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: perhaps they have new help.
    
    nubbins`: ^
    
    asciilifeform: say, a veteran of UCC.
    
    
    
    jurov: i just think coders capable to do such can get paid amply by legitimate businesses
    
    jurov: i don't see any motivation why would they turn to such shenanigans
    
    asciilifeform: there's a difference between 'amply paid' and $MAXINT
    
    asciilifeform: there is also the very persuasive 'paid in your family staying alive' business model
    
    asciilifeform: that certain players in the field favour.
    
    jurov: oh yes there we are again
    
    
    
    ozbot: back yard pvc roller coaster with a 12 ft drop - YouTube
    
    jurov: such thing really works in ussr-style dictatorships where there is no way out
    
    asciilifeform: a warm hug to the inquisitor reading this.
    
    jurov: so if something such happens, it's directed by homeland security, not bitcoin foundation noobs
    
    asciilifeform: they're not unconstrained actors. they still need a story to explain why the 'official' src is to change.
    
    asciilifeform: a persuasive story
    
    nubbins`: benkay :D
    
    asciilifeform: the ddos crap is a pill against folks like MP, who have declared that they'll stick with ancient versions of bitcoind.
    
    asciilifeform: (perhaps he'll patch the damn thing with his own hands. but others, less able, will not. and will go where the phoundation pushes them.)
    
    pankkake: jurov: I only have ~10000 left (plus what I'm still mining), so you might get a better price elsewhere
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2405 @ 0.0008684 = 2.0885 BTC [+]
    
    jurov: like, where?
    
    jurov: it's still minable on gpu?
    
    pankkake: I mine it with 2 erupters on http://coinminer.net:19982/static/
    
    mike_c: nethash was 240 ghs by our meager estimates earlier today
    
    pankkake: https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111 anyone tried it?
    
    ozbot: OpenEx
    
    mircea_popescu: so what's new ?
    
    asciilifeform: i conjecture that bitcoind contains a reliable 'warehouse' of otherwise-harmless bugs like the recent one.
    
    asciilifeform: kept around for just this purpose.
    
    mike_c: psh, and i conjecture the sky is blue.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it contains a warehouse of bugs because it was built by joe out of toothpicks and chewing gum
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you didn't miss much. i'm playing my favourite 'pretend GRU still exists' game.
    
    mircea_popescu: lol i noticed you like that.
    
    jurov: Apocalyptic: and you aren't going to support atc?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54999998 BTC [-]
    
    jurov: mircea_popescu: you give altcoinz?
    
    mircea_popescu: what for ?
    
    jurov: for X.ALT "D
    
    jurov: pankkake hinted something
    
    mircea_popescu: uh. wut ?
    
    jurov: hahaha
    
    pankkake: lol
    
    jurov: wasn't there a faucet?
    
    pankkake: now that altcoin have value, the faucet dried up?
    
    pankkake: and borken english is me
    
    mircea_popescu: i did some giveaways for like answering q's and whatnot.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00087044 = 4.4828 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: being THE ONLY ONE to do so hint hint nudge nudge.
    
    mircea_popescu: just like in BTC i'm the only one doing shit, everyone else is buying bentleys and spraypainting crackheads in gold paint.
    
    pankkake: tat did the logo, that's half the value of the coin at least
    
    moiety: you cannot deny they look better
    
    jurov: butbutbut...i'm running a full node... helping the network
    
    pankkake: I'll give you 42 ATC
    
    jurov: hyperfast, compiled with -fomg-optimize
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety that unfortunate chick... god help her.
    
    pankkake: so you found the pic? I couldn't
    
    jurov: ok, send atc donations to 1LcE3DQSosBv3HNYGTmCQLGnKgFhchCe8j
    
    mircea_popescu: do you even vanity ?!
    
    moiety: me?
    
    jurov: he meant me
    
    mircea_popescu: i meant him
    
    moiety: no i meant the unfortunate chick bit
    
    moiety: i do have some bad news mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety you seen the pic of the gold painted cokehead ?
    
    moiety: oh no, i didn't realise there was actually someone sprayed!! will google
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not the only fellow who likes playing games:
    
    pankkake: 666 ATC bounty for the pic
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://phk.freebsd.dk/_downloads/FOSDEM_2014.pdf
    
    
    
    Duffer1: classy
    
    pankkake: worse than I rememberd
    
    moiety: thanks for link, all i got was a sea of lindsay lohan on google. imgur must be overloaded, cant load it yet
    
    mircea_popescu: pankkake it gets worse every time.
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety so what's the bad news ? you got married to an axe murderer ?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00086643 = 6.7582 BTC [-]
    
    moiety: mircea_popescu: I'm 29... marriage would be good news. [ignores the murderer bit]
    
    moiety: bad news is life is about to get even more irritating http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/first-there-were-captchas-now-there-are-gotchas/
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;google so i married an axe murderer
    
    gribble: So I Married an Axe Murderer (1993) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108174/>; So I Married an Axe Murderer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer>; So I Married An Axe Murderer(colonel sanders scene) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPMS6tGOACo>
    
    mircea_popescu: a, that's ok, i don't even use blogger.
    
    moiety: oh i forgot about that film!!
    
    moiety: if they introduce inblots everywhere though, internet will be halved forme
    
    moiety: inkblots
    
    mircea_popescu: so you should be thankful, half the crap.
    
    jurov: someone wanted vanity? 1atcKeQCoeKbWCqyMUZPrMjpjvr4ayAbX
    
    moiety: but but half the procrastination also
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov you ate what ? keq ?
    
    moiety: wait....
    
    mircea_popescu: coek ?
    
    asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/fbi-new-10000-reward-if-you-report-people-who-fire-lasers-at-airplanes/
    
    ozbot: FBI: New $10,000 reward if you report people who fire lasers at airplanes | Ars Technica
    
    mircea_popescu: whoa. it actually hurts anything ?!
    
    jurov: ;;lasers
    
    gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
    
    asciilifeform: one obvious question: how does one convict the offender?
    
    asciilifeform: 'owns laser pointer. off to jail'
    
    jurov: they blind pilots?
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform terrorism, public nudity and money laundering.
    
    moiety: lolol
    
    mircea_popescu: wait i mean, public terrorism, money nudity and laundry.
    
    mircea_popescu: no wait, that's not rigth either
    
    jurov: jaywalking not fashionable anymore
    
    mircea_popescu: child laundery, money liking and going to the park
    
    moiety: lmfao
    
    mircea_popescu: A LAUNDRY LIST OF OFFENSIVE OFFENCES
    
    pankkake: public nudity, milking and laundry
    
    moiety: new challenge im off to vanitygen
    
    mircea_popescu: &offal falafel.
    
    gribble: Error: "offal" is not a valid command.
    
    asciilifeform: nude terrorism, public laundering, nude money.
    
    mircea_popescu: public laundering of nude terrorists for money.
    
    mircea_popescu: underage.
    
    jurov: public money
    
    mircea_popescu: underage money, public vomiting and interfacing with a known socket.
    
    asciilifeform: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/february/protecting-aircraft-from-lasers/protecting-aircraft-from-lasers
    
    ozbot: FBI — Protecting Aircraft from Lasers: New Program Offers Rewards for Information
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, everyone, thank you for your leadership in this important matter.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10509 @ 0.00086358 = 9.0754 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform srsly, seems more like a ploy to give your buddy 10k, because i can't for the life of me grok what exact damage can you do to an airplane with a ground laser.
    
    asciilifeform: (cui bono? the folks who will be selling the soon-to-be-mandatory fly-by-camera gear, when it gets retrofitted into passenger jets.)
    
    jurov: to pilot, not to airplane
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 11 @ 0.19376446 = 2.1314 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov the pilot is what, losing his change on the floor of the plane which is transparent ?
    
    mircea_popescu: passenger jets strafing now ?
    
    jurov: lasers do reflect
    
    mircea_popescu: in more interesting news :
    
    
    
    ozbot: Websites of Las Vegas Sands casinos hacked, including Venetian, Palazzo on Las Vegas Strip | Star Tr
    
    asciilifeform: the 'terrible problem' will remain unsolved, passenger liners will get $100K cameras and painted-over windshields.
    
    jurov: you ever got a flash of reflected laser pointer?
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov nope.
    
    jurov: quite annoying
    
    mircea_popescu: and i'm not even a pilot.
    
    jurov: and that's just puny pointer for presentations
    
    mircea_popescu: dude, you mean in the same room ?
    
    mircea_popescu: come on now.
    
    moiety: WW3 = cats vs pilots
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.06946363 = 0.7641 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.12500001 = 1.375 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: you ever tried to shoot a fish ?
    
    jurov: yep, poor pilots have to catch red dots and crashing airplanes
    
    mircea_popescu: because if you imagine you're hitting a ten yard plane from five thousand feet deep in an ocean of air with a fucking handheld laser you're nuts.
    
    moiety: why do you think they get paid so highly?
    
    jurov: noone gives a fuck about thousands of feet
    
    mircea_popescu: uh
    
    jurov: it concerns takeoff and landing
    
    mircea_popescu: yes, the laser does. light has this property called refraction
    
    mircea_popescu: o it does ?
    
    asciilifeform: everyone is missing the point. the entire 'problem' is fictional. the fiction, created for a purpose.
    
    asciilifeform: 'no pilots were harmed' 'in the making of this movie.'
    
    moiety: lol^
    
    mircea_popescu: srsly, i never heard of it.
    
    jurov: if the scare is about mid-air laser attacks, indeed
    
    asciilifeform: u.s. mouthpieces have been peddling this crap for some years.
    
    jurov: but if it's pubescents shooting 1w lasers into cockpit upon landing...
    
    asciilifeform: likewise, slightly-intelligent bureaucrats perhaps wake up at night from the fact that you can untraceably torch just about anything with a fiddybuck IR laser.
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov sounds to me like a rehash of the child porn thing.
    
    mircea_popescu: "o, horrible things are happening somewhere maybe"
    
    jurov: oh, are they flashing child porn to pilots?
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah, gets burned on their retinas
    
    moiety: but how are these pubescents getting close enough to the planes
    
    jurov: one kilometer is close enough
    
    moiety: wow my laser pen is shit
    
    mircea_popescu: one kilometer around the airport is all parking lots
    
    mircea_popescu: let's do some quick math.
    
    jurov: but, maybe you do know better, whatever
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1000**2*3.141592*2
    
    gribble: 6283184
    
    asciilifeform: green laser, rayleigh scattering, you can 'walk' the beam to the target.
    
    mircea_popescu: whoa look at that! the surface of a hemisphere 1km away is like... 6.3 mn sq meters!
    
    moiety: ijust cant visualise even getting a pilots face from ground level from that distance
    
    asciilifeform: (and target, back to you...)
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc 6283184 / .25 * 10**6
    
    gribble: 25132736000000
    
    mircea_popescu: whoa look at that!
    
    mircea_popescu: the odds of hitting anything 1 km away are about one in a las vegas jackpot!
    
    
    
    jurov: first google result for pilot blinded by laser: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/medical-helicopter-pilot-blinded-laser-21583352
    
    moiety: you like lasers a lot don't you asciilifeform :)
    
    jborkl: Mp, the calls on the site are priced at .1 and the puts are still priced at 1.0, so there is a typo in this month puts
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc 25132736000000 / (6*10**9)
    
    gribble: 4188.78933333
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: i like incandescent bulbs, too, sure.
    
    mircea_popescu: whoia look at that! if every man woman and child on planet earth was a prepubescent boy with a laser spending all their time 1km away from lax
    
    mircea_popescu: you'd get about one pilot hit every day!
    
    mircea_popescu: provided it's friday on a february the 29th
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: and i sometimes have occasion to work with modestly large lasers. hence some clue.
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl specifically ?
    
    moiety: aaaah i see! I wanna work with lasers!
    
    jurov: you just are hell bent on making fun of fbi, even if they do something that may make sense eventually
    
    jborkl: It says lot is .1 btc , but mkopt and pricing is obviously 1.0 btc lot
    
    jborkl: This month puts
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: in this case fbi is doing its actual job well, for a change. (read: padding the pockets of contractors. here, the ones who'll be making mandatory 'fly by camera' widgets.)
    
    moiety: imgur is still keeping this gold crackhead from me :/
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl help me out here. how do you reason ?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5109 @ 0.00086301 = 4.4091 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    jurov: that is not an argument, it can be said about everything
    
    jurov: flood protection? nah, just lining pockets pof contractors
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: floods exist.
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov there's a record of floods actually happening in the past.
    
    mircea_popescu: this is different from one guy somewhere thought he might have heard something.
    
    jurov: i jut shown you the medial helicopter video. it does exist, too
    
    mircea_popescu: if that's the standard of evidence required even female orgasm exists.
    
    jborkl: The text says one lot is .1 btc but mkopt and sell are still dominated in 1 btc lots
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl that doesn't seem to be a reasoning.
    
    mircea_popescu: $depth O.USD.P500T
    
    mpexbot: mircea_popescu: O.USD.P500T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.67164225']
    
    mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 1.17856218']
    
    jborkl: Unless I am just reading something wrong
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl you expect to buy a put at 5k for 1 btc lots for 0.67 ?
    
    jborkl: No
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc (5000 - 700) / 700
    
    gribble: 6.14285714286
    
    mircea_popescu: seems it is in fact .1 btc lots.
    
    jborkl: I understand it is 67%
    
    jborkl: Or we
    
    jborkl: 61
    
    asciilifeform: the 'laser pointer arrest' video is priceless.
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl well and the text on the page says "One lot consists of 0.1 BTC".
    
    mircea_popescu: so where's the typo or what do you mean ?
    
    asciilifeform: 'At 500 feet, Childs said, that two-centimeter dot you see on your wall can be six feet wide.'
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't bother with power calculations do they
    
    jborkl: Well, I read it different but I fully understand the math behind it so it doesn't matter. I just rwadbit different but I see what you are saying
    
    mircea_popescu: it is six feet wide and magically 3600000 times as energetic
    
    jborkl: Read it
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl a ok
    
    asciilifeform: ;;calc 3.14159 * (183 ^ 2)
    
    gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc 3.14159 * (183 ** 2)
    
    gribble: 105208.70751
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00086575 = 0.2597 BTC [+]
    
    asciilifeform: ;;calc 0.005 / 105208.70751
    
    gribble: 4.75245834526e-08
    
    asciilifeform: watts per square cm.
    
    mircea_popescu: that's almost as bad as an ugly vinyl dress on a sunny day
    
    asciilifeform: ~moonlight.
    
    asciilifeform: sentence of 'death by arithmetic' has been executed.
    
    asciilifeform: the 'control shot' administered.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand. at one astronomic unit away that million ton cheese thing i nthe sky can appear six inches wide!
    
    mircea_popescu: jborkl did you mean that you read "Put option expiring this month struck at 500 USD/lot." to mean "500usd/btc" ?
    
    jurov: power density can be like a moonlight, but on retina it concnetrates into one dot
    
    mircea_popescu: not moreso than moonlight does.
    
    jurov: just try it sometime,
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: notice that the fbi crap carefully specified an uncollimated beam.
    
    asciilifeform: (the actual case in consumer laser toy)
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov seriously, your mishaps within five feet are not a solid basis for comparison here.
    
    jborkl: No, honestly I forgot until this conversation that options are standard the way you have it written. I forgot the standard tbh
    
    mircea_popescu: a ok. no big deal.
    
    jurov: whatever, just try it on yourself
    
    asciilifeform: srsly, we aren't debating the theory of nuke yields here. experimental materials required: 1 laser keychain. 1km long street. 1 phriend.
    
    jurov: as i say, i do have some experience. it wasn't kilometer, but also the power was much smaller
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov actually, i'll make it sweet for you :
    
    jurov: so i can believe that pilots do have issues
    
    mircea_popescu: get a laser key chain and a camera. place camera one kilometer away
    
    asciilifeform: bonus crap points for ignoring the fact that ~532nm (green) laser rayleigh scatters, further losing power.
    
    mircea_popescu: and try to shine the laser into it while it autoshoots so that you catch it in a pic.
    
    mircea_popescu: i bet you you will not be able to produce this within 8 hours of trying.
    
    asciilifeform: place the camera in a car, to reproduce the magical collimatory power of the aircraft window.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well no, place it in a car so it's not stolen
    
    asciilifeform: this too.
    
    asciilifeform: esp. on my street...
    
    mircea_popescu: just you know, park your car in a field somewhere, or a beach or w/e
    
    mircea_popescu: take a walk and let it rip
    
    asciilifeform: yes. perhaps physics has been cancelled by imperial decree, and we're all fools.
    
    jurov: so these laers sharpshooters use are just a gimmick and completely useless for aiming, then?
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm waiting for the day when one becomes vragnaroda for owning a collection of unexpurgated kvant
    
    asciilifeform: that'd be me.
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov you think sharpshooters use the red laser dot 1km away ?
    
    mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you suppose they could SEE it.
    
    mircea_popescu: the victim may see it, but how would the sharpshooter see it ?
    
    jurov: via binocular?
    
    mircea_popescu: i suspek you might have not had thought this through so much.
    
    asciilifeform: they make IR (ocular compatible) laser sights now, because u.s. polizei can't hit a victim from across the street otherwise.
    
    jurov: In 2009, there were 1,489 laser events logged with the FAA—that is, pilots reporting that their cockpits were illuminated by the devices
    
    asciilifeform: actual snipers ignore lasers, because gravity drop / wind.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still dunno wtf they do for practice training, srsly, but they are atrociously bad.
    
    jurov: so this is coplaetely fabricated data?
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov listen, cockpit illuminated != ill effect
    
    jurov: orly?
    
    mircea_popescu: during the same interval a number of 59739845 bored women reported they were "almost raped"
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: paid sick leave!
    
    mircea_popescu: for instance, a guy askd them out and he was ugly.
    
    asciilifeform: oh noez i got illuminated.
    
    jurov: if the lose hight vision even for few seconds, that;s okay?
    
    jurov: *night vision
    
    mircea_popescu: listen
    
    mircea_popescu: i was once in a car and the fucking ambulance illuminated the cockpit with the lights
    
    mircea_popescu: nao what ?
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: blind the camera & come back
    
    mircea_popescu: and incidentally, those shits are loud, it can startle you
    
    mircea_popescu: somehow people never crashed their car into the fire truck because "whoa, i got blinded by the illumination of the cockpit"
    
    mircea_popescu: but i will be pleased to be given the proper form to report such events for the future
    
    mircea_popescu: maybe if we get a large enough number i can have a free subway sub
    
    jurov: you can always slam your feet to brakes
    
    benkay: who is this we you go on about tonight
    
    jurov: in aircraft, not very much
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov in most actual driving situations, sudden braking is both suicidal
    
    mircea_popescu: and the worst move you could do.
    
    asciilifeform: like any good official crock of shit, this one is based on fact (one can indeed construct a vaguely-useful military 'blinding machine')
    
    asciilifeform: dollar store laser keychain ain't it.
    
    jurov: benkay, just mircea with ascii going on that pilots are pussies and they should just shut up
    
    mircea_popescu: well actually i think pilots should just be beaten, personally, but that is besides the point.
    
    asciilifeform: pilots are human, when idiot employers/officials offer paid sick leave for an imaginary injury, they're happy to run with it.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in honesty i doubt your average pilot really needs excuses to take a break.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's one of those fields like specialist surgery, workload X, workforce epsilon
    
    asciilifeform: perhaps it lets them get out of a scheduled 'piss test' as well.
    
    mircea_popescu: you usually have ~5000 vacation days untaken
    
    jurov: maybe. or maybe they actually have to accept considerable overtime instead
    
    asciilifeform: anyway, these particular angels are already in your parts drawer, and so is the requisite pin head. camera, keychain, go.
    
    jurov: for example one would think that german train engine driver is comfy occupation
    
    jurov: unless it happens one knoes some liek i do
    
    jurov: *knows some
    
    jurov: and nope, they slashed the jobs, constant overtime, nos sick leave
    
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    jurov: i suspect pilots likewise.
    
    asciilifeform: betcha if the poor fellow just got death-rayed, he gets some paid leave.
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov yup just about.
    
    jurov: nope
    
    jurov: the train driver gets leave only if someone throws himself under the train
    
    jurov: som they actually secretly hppe for that
    
    asciilifeform: if not, next media crapfest: 'scandal! poor pilots forced to fly with zapped eye! news at 11'
    
    jurov: yes, and everypone forgets the next day
    
    jurov: no biggie
    
    moiety: i doubt train drivers hope for that
    
    moiety: most don't work again
    
    jurov: i say, i know them personally, they are severely overworked
    
    moiety: you know a driver that has had a jumper?
    
    jurov: some to that point they'd accept such discharge
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: if one can get pensioned for the 'trauma' of driving a train over some idiot, perhaps we should all become train drivers.
    
    moiety: i've known one. he was a patient.
    
    moiety: he couldn't get past the flash backs
    
    moiety: every time he was back in the cab or w/e its called on a train
    
    jurov: that was not the point
    
    jurov: the point was pilots are pussies
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: clearly made a poor choice of profession, then
    
    jurov: that should just shrug off someone lightting the cockpit
    
    moiety: not really
    
    jurov: instead
    
    moiety: liking trains is not a prerequisite to being able to handle graphic death in front of you
    
    jurov: being completely burned out is
    
    asciilifeform: jurov: lit up your car successfully ?
    
    jurov: at least so that peron thinks
    
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    jurov: asciilifeform: what if yes?
    
    asciilifeform: pics plz.
    
    asciilifeform: with approx. distance & wattage.
    
    jurov: if i arrange it, there will be pics
    
    moiety: i saw a deer halved by a plane yesterday. quite an effect D:
    
    mircea_popescu: o look she can spell affect!
    
    moiety: i meant it had an effect on me though
    
    
    
    ozbot: Laser Pointer Safety - NEVER aim laser pointers at aircraft
    
    jurov: some photos. not blinding, but i can believe it's distraction
    
    moiety: every psychiatry person knows affect and effect
    
    
    
    KRS-One: i still dont understand how laser pointers can be steady enough to light a moving airplane cockpit from the ground at a distance
    
    KRS-One: the further away the more shaky and inaccurate they get..you can barely hit the moon if at all for instance.
    
    jurov: they don't need to be steady
    
    moiety: asciilifeform: not quite but i like that one way more XD
    
    jurov: just flah when the beam crosses the target
    
    jurov: *flash
    
    asciilifeform: KRS-One: this is because you are vragnaroda, and make use of hatefacts.
    
    moiety: i'll find it if you want to see it
    
    jcpham: vragnaroda? where?!?
    
    KRS-One: guess you can flash them easily but only for a moment here and there
    
    jurov: that's enough
    
    jurov: when the eye is accustomed to dark, it's ver sensitive
    
    KRS-One: I make use of hatefacts?
    
    jurov: anyway, this is lost cause
    
    jurov: good night
    
    jcpham: 'night
    
    asciilifeform: and here we go with the elephant repellent vendors:
    
    
    
    ozbot: Iridian, LaseReflect, , LaseReflect Aviators - 532/1064 nm,
    
    asciilifeform: the one way for this to work is for ten thousand wankers (reading news!) to try, and a few get very close, and lucky.
    
    moiety: lol their graph looks terrible
    
    asciilifeform: see history of 'glue sniffing.'
    
    moiety: found it http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aircraft-pictures/oops-7372.html#post233224 deer meets plane. don't look if you like deer
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: this is an everyday sight on the wash. d.c. beltway.
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety i was just being very silly.
    
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    Dimsler_: mircea_popescu, that jew plead not guilty
    
    Dimsler_: whens bitbet paying out?
    
    moiety: mircea_popescu: good...silliness ftw
    
    moiety: is it asciilifeform honestly, i could've cried yesterday!
    
    mircea_popescu: Dimsler_ prolly in a week or two
    
    asciilifeform: beast that lives on woodland edges + traffic -> daily bloody mess.
    
    moiety: in scotland, if you hit a deer and kill it, you are allowed to take it home
    
    KRS-One: Oh Dear.
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: over here it's the opposite, reason perhaps being that people would mount rams (or the like.)
    
    moiety: yeah i can understand that
    
    moiety: people just don't here but our cars are tiny so i think its usually a transport issue!!
    
    moiety: strap a deer to a nissan micra? nope
    
    mod6: ;;view
    
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    ozbot: BitBet - MtGox out of business in 2014
    
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    ozbot: The miracles that matter pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
    
    mircea_popescu: (probably most interesting for non-math heads)
    
    mircea_popescu: mod6 i was thinking that may get more traction
    
    moiety: i don't like otc, it's boring.
    
    benkay: there's not much worth trading at this early juncture, moiety
    
    benkay: mircea_popescu, linking a USG publication as a source of useful numbers?! will miracles never cease...
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay all is possible, praise allah and his true prophet obama
    
    moiety: ah kk benkay, i'll stick around
    
    benkay: all but colored coins being a useful thing, eh wot?
    
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    moiety: i was reading about those, didn't make much sense to me
    
    benkay: don't you see the genius?
    
    moiety: nope
    
    benkay: you can send a colored coin representing what you aver to be your stock in pepsi to a stranger over the internet.
    
    mircea_popescu: a more ver averring never coulding be possible to have taken place.
    
    benkay: a miracle!
    
    moiety: but it just seems ennecessary to me
    
    mircea_popescu: more like a cryptacle.
    
    moiety: unnecessary
    
    benkay: cryptacular company!
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety this is because you're not a 21 yo virgin boi.
    
    moiety: lolol
    
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    moiety: what ever happened to those ridiculous people that wanted to track everyone's wallets?
    
    moiety: please say they died
    
    benkay: oh man mp you broke my head with that sentence
    
    mircea_popescu: your head was broken to begin with
    
    mircea_popescu: i simply followed in the spaces :D
    
    mircea_popescu: /koan
    
    benkay: now now
    
    benkay: a vorhees avers a virtuous stock vending
    
    mircea_popescu: i left an y out
    
    mircea_popescu: a more very averring never coulding be possible to have taken place.
    
    benkay: your prose is so boiled down and reduced the omission of single letters can render it gibberish
    
    benkay: i was trying to render ver into some sense
    
    mircea_popescu: a kk
    
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    mircea_popescu: youi know those dudes are romanian ?
    
    benkay: no wai
    
    mircea_popescu: yup.
    
    
    
    ozbot: Twitter / pidjin: #romania Protesting against ...
    
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    mircea_popescu: that for instance is re the mining thing i mentioned a while back.
    
    mircea_popescu: Eugen Erhan & Tudor Muscalu.
    
    Dimsler_: spiders have the most amount of gay sex
    
    moiety: my address will take 4 hours, is that usual? 1chipug was gonna take 3 days
    
    moiety: --and yes, my laptop is shit
    
    benkay: relevant to spider sex
    
    moiety: totally! queen of relevance me
    
    moiety: sorry!
    
    
    
    ozbot: Peacock Spider 7 - YouTube
    
    benkay: yeah moiety you in trouble nao
    
    benkay: ;)
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i kept waiting for the Pythagorean drowning scene in there.
    
    moiety: benkay: that spider is so cute!!!
    
    benkay: moiety: and downright hypnotic to boot
    
    moiety: spider: \o/ ladies over here! \o/
    
    moiety: lol
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: it's a fat little bugger: http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/laser/machine.png
    
    asciilifeform: 50kg or so.
    
    moiety: that is so cool, plenty hiding space, i am small! lol what do you use it for asciilifeform?
    
    moiety: it weighs the same as me!!!!
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: sorta like an expensive jigsaw.
    
    moiety: benkay: 6 is a good video too. the males really like to rub their balls (palps) on their faces don't they?!
    
    moiety: asciilifeform: it's even got a Big Red Button!
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: exactly what it looks like. hit with fist, cuts off the mains. twist to unpop.
    
    moiety: i need this in my life :(
    
    asciilifeform: these are standard on Machine Tools That Mangle Flesh (tm)
    
    moiety: lolololol
    
    benkay: mandated even, depending on jurisdiction.
    
    moiety: i was always waiting on some twat getting caught in the shredder at work
    
    benkay: what, so that you could clean up the mess?!
    
    asciilifeform: moiety: the piece that does, the, well, lasing - http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/laser/tube.png
    
    asciilifeform: this is more or less the smallest size they come in (for practical use, that is)
    
    moiety: asciilifeform: so in the first pic, you can open the boxy bit and this2nd pic is what is in side?
    
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    moiety: apologies, lasers are fascinating
    
    asciilifeform: the back of the cabinet, yes
    
    asciilifeform: red wire is 35kV
    
    asciilifeform: (bottom red)
    
    moiety: woah, you def need your Big Red Button
    
    asciilifeform: tube is abundantly chinese, good for maybe 1000 hours.
    
    moiety: is it always the same strength?
    
    moiety: of zappage or can you adjust
    
    moiety: and do you ever lase things you shouldn't?
    
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