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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.47 = 10.34 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00100708 = 8.2349 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: for anyone who ever finds himself in the vintage laptop quandary described earlier:
asciilifeform: solution = openbsd + 'plop' (boot manager that laughs at idiot 8GB limit of old bios)
BingoBoingo: That might be incredibly useful in the future.
ozbot: Plop - What is Plop?
asciilifeform: openbsd still eats most of the 64M though.
BingoBoingo: Well, other than trying progressively older versions of OpenBSD I dunno if there is a solution to Unix bloat.
mircea_popescu: plop is a poplar tree.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.00469998 = 0.1175 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: 1980s unix users would have killed for 64MB.
asciilifeform: or 233MHz / 32bit bus.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think this hits back to a problem you and Joel on Software raise. Thinking in C, the solution to bugs seems to almost necessarily involve creating more code as opposed to trimming problematic code.
BingoBoingo: I mean Intel's top processors for quite some time have been at their core rather trim RISC architectures, but Bloaty McLegacy Bloaterson keeps getting tacked on.
KRS1: Dont forget Creepy McFeature Creeperson
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Features are a myth.
KRS1: lol suuure
KRS1: I've seen plenty go to crapware because of that.
BingoBoingo: Depends on what you consider crapware.
KRS1: As long as I consider it, then it is, I'm the user =D
BingoBoingo: I mean most feature complete TeX distros run roughly as large once installed as Acrobat Pro.
BingoBoingo: (speaking purely in terms of disc space)
BingoBoingo: Turns out if you want hundreds to thousands of fonts for however many alphabets exist, It doesn't really matter how trim the front end is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00100491 = 10.652 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: The more people who hear about the bitcoin, the stupider the bottom is going to be.
kakobrekla: i kinda thought we started at the bottom
kakobrekla: seems i was wrong
johndoe_: heyy
johndoe_: hey
KRS1: Idk its pretty damn stupid out there, sometimes I feel like I get some of it on me.
johndoe_: what yall talkin abouttt
KRS1: Then I come in here and I feel at least a little better.
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: Hmmm! Whatcha got there.
KRS1: .bait
johndoe_: hot
johndoe_: loll jk
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: No, the bottom always gets lower. Bitcoin started with stupid, but smart enough to have read that bitcoin exists. Nao we get people who learn of bitcoin while eating tv dinners on the couch.
KRS1: At least the bait is free.
johndoe_: anyone know where u can get like .000001btc i want to test it out
johndoe_: i will give back if anyone sends
johndoe_: any1?
kakobrekla: you seem like some unknown dead person to me
kakobrekla: i dont give btc to such people
BingoBoingo: Why quit so soon johndoe_ I may have had work...
kakobrekla: did he leave before my reply and i look stupid?
kakobrekla: well i guess i look stupid either way, so nevermind that one.
BingoBoingo: I was going to ask if he had a sharpie and a camera
kakobrekla: the bad side of having joins and parts disabled
kakobrekla: but it makes for a cleaner experience
kakobrekla: yeah for a sharpie ill chip in too.
kakobrekla: we can like split buttcheeks
kakobrekla: or should i rather say share.
BingoBoingo: Well, he only wanted .000001btc seems like a bargain
BingoBoingo: I dunno if a buttcoin is worth more than 0.01 BTC anymore nao
kakobrekla: considering the rise of beggars... someone should start collecting buttcoin on some dedicated blog
BingoBoingo: I mean unless if the ass is that nice and they offer proof of girlparts in advance maybe up t0 0.1 BTC might be possible.
kakobrekla: like shame of wall for leechers.
BingoBoingo: I've just been collecting them in case people go scam.
kakobrekla: and each buttcoin pic would ofc show where and howmuch twas paid.
BingoBoingo: Most usernames I've bought buttcoins from have died soon after, which of course decreases the value of buttcoins
kakobrekla: the shame is too great.
BingoBoingo: I definitely paid too much for this batch: i.imgur.com/yQ52mP7.jpg i.imgur.com/SYqlDeP.jpg i.imgur.com/o08heoV.jpg
BingoBoingo: The one who knew where sharpie went was do not want
kakobrekla: yea, and we can like make tradedable cards from these buttcoins and make like a dedicate online exchange, and when we like feel like its not going well, start trading btc:usd and keep the name
BingoBoingo: We can call buttcoin cars magic. And name the exchange Magic The Gathering Online Exchange
BingoBoingo: *eXchange
kakobrekla: sounds good
Duffer1: oh god the last one
BingoBoingo: Seems to have worked before for at least a while. Just have to remember to to use Ruby on Rails.
Duffer1: why did i even.....
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: You sound like you need a hobby
Duffer1: ? got something in mind?
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Go forth and collect buttcoins from beggars and potential scamzors.
kakobrekla: i recently got a new hobby, mostly asciilifeform fault
BingoBoingo: Make a database.
kakobrekla: now im overdoing it
BingoBoingo: If someone sells the same butt twice, flag them as dupes
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Enforce in the WoT a law of the Buttcoins, No one can redeem the same pooper twice with a sharpie
Duffer1: i would really rather not have to see that
Duffer1: ever
BingoBoingo: Cleanse your pallate Duffer1
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: ?
KRS1: NICEW
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.002977 = 0.1489 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.002976 = 0.2887 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well, you mentioned how we spend all this time in our cockpits and we should make it easy on ourselves with good peripherals etc
kakobrekla: now ten grand later or so, my office room is still half trashed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00100399 = 16.0638 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 10K? bought a golden toilet to sit on?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: How many chorded keyboards did http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861 talk you into?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik, no one sells a usable pc-compatible chording kbd
kakobrekla: well it is a complete makeover and lots of experimentation
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You don't know how much I shopped for such a thing after reading that post. There's the plastic crap one where "experienced typists" get 25wpm and brag about it.
kakobrekla: got 5 27 inch screens only to ditch them and get another set of five
kakobrekla: then i got like 30 brands of fans only to find 2 usable
kakobrekla: (not making fuckin mechanic noise on low rpm)
kakobrekla: etc etc
kakobrekla: the keyboards , im still looking into really
kakobrekla: i got a few different ones to try, nothing mechanical yet
kakobrekla: got the cherry switch sampler though.
kakobrekla: but yeah, smart words asciilifeform and fuck you.
Duffer1: the left out moonshine
Duffer1: " and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare".. and drank
BingoBoingo: Can't believed the author of that article uses "morning beer" in a derogatory sense.
Duffer1: kentucky: because how else are people like rand paul going to get electede
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, the first beer of the morning is one of the greatest joys in the world.
kakobrekla: off i go, later dudes
BingoBoingo: later kakobrekla
Mats_cd03: kentucky is a sucker for good looks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 322 @ 0.00295871 = 0.9527 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8517 @ 0.00100216 = 8.5354 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2083 @ 0.00100211 = 2.0874 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: President Johnson left out of his calculations the factor that is almost always overlooked by populists: the people.
BingoBoingo: Seems right, but is The Week cribbing Trilema nao?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00295 = 0.295 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1115 @ 0.00291018 = 3.2449 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.0029 = 0.1392 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.0029 = 0.1363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8367 @ 0.00100211 = 8.3847 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00100075 = 8.006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00099951 = 21.8393 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6649 @ 0.00099913 = 6.6432 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4851 @ 0.00099781 = 4.8404 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00099781 = 0.5977 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3943 @ 0.00099496 = 3.9231 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499882 = 0.11 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Here's answers to my best spam comments post slashdotting http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/01/26/a-short-qa/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04990001 = 0.2495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2776 @ 0.00009199 = 0.2554 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: .bait
BingoBoingo: You know there was a buttcoin conversation earlier. I wonder what the value of a bit tooth is...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.49 = 9.8 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: As someone who due to a mismatch between the size of my jaw and 8 extra molars who wanted to live there doubt I'd extract any teeth of my own for BTC. I wonder how other people might price this though.
Mats_cd03: do you have any gold teeth
Mats_cd03: or maybe platinum
Mats_cd03: mtv cribs style
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I'm thinking about getting some patched in gold
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I've paid people BTC to stick sharpies in their poopers (after Mircea started that trend)
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Mostly I find that boring and cheap now that post people realize poopers are openings that easily accomodate sharpies
Mats_cd03: how unfortunate
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I know. Very bitcoin problem. Lacking a business idea te only way to spend BTC is entertainment by people who desperately want Btc
Mats_cd03: do you enjoy poker?
Mats_cd03: if you do, you should read a book and then play on swc
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: In some circumstances. I prefer sports and event betting as a revenue stream, but taking throwaway money to poker can be fun.
BingoBoingo: I don't play on Seals anymore though.
BingoBoingo: Not only was that hack a bridge to far.
Mats_cd03: the players are good and if you play very tight you can prob make $50/hr with one screen up
BingoBoingo: They never let me fucking reset my password or lock out my name from further use
Mats_cd03: thats too bad
BingoBoingo: The fact that in 3-48 months someone cracking the passwords leaked will have my password is bad.
BingoBoingo: Because people mistakenly think SwC chat is a decent place to trade shit.
BingoBoingo: Any by cracking the password whose hash adversaries Seals won't chance is basically making me wait until the sweet wine of my ass turns into fucking salad dressing.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.49 = 4.9 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I dunno about you Mats_cd03 but I hate shit sandwiches
Mats_cd03: if you cant think of a bitcoin business then buy a tesla
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I'd rather buy a Pontiac Aztek. Those are fun.
Mats_cd03: i sat in one, its pretty nice...its like a prius with the instant heat but comfortable too
BingoBoingo: What cars are especially fun are the most recent Ford Crown Victorias.
Mats_cd03: its clutch during the winter time
BingoBoingo: I just don't much care for cars who can't as they end their life compete with some success in a demolition derby
BingoBoingo: I'd get an old combine harvester and enter that demolition derby, but THAT competition turns into srs bsns fast.
BingoBoingo: I just want a car that can die with dignity
Mats_cd03: i have an idea for a bitcoin business
BingoBoingo: Also, I don't want to be the last to drive it. I know plenty of people who actually enjoy letting themselve be the Undertaker for car's last moments
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: What fucking kind of business
Mats_cd03: have you seen that electronic credit card
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: That coin thing?
Mats_cd03: yeah
BingoBoingo: Fuck that. My thinkpad isn't to heavy to carry a walking around wallet. Do you think I'm some sort of fairy or something.
Mats_cd03: make a clone of that and have the company sell the cards along with prepaid credit cards refillable with bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.48000032 = 14.88 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: How do you keep the privates safe.
BingoBoingo: Same problem the Navy has
Mats_cd03: i feel like i'm talking to a really smart robot
jayk: nope
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Look into S.NSA which is a joint venture of mircea and stan. Look at all of the inconveniences security imposes. Can you imagine how small the sctual audience for such things is
Mats_cd03: its exactly as secure as regular credit cards are
BingoBoingo: The initial price for 1 Cardano they quoted was 0.3 BTC roughly at $100/BTC. I dunno, but I imagine at $10,000/BTC they could comfortably keep the price at 0.3BTC
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Secure as regular credit cards is nothing to be proud of
Mats_cd03: nobodys taking on any new kind of risk
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Actually they are taking on older kinds of risk with BTC
Mats_cd03: its insurable but it interfaces bitcoin with the rest of the world
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Who other than Floyds is insuring BTC today?
Mats_cd03: i believe theres a good number of people who would like to spend money online but can't because they dont have a credit or debit card
BingoBoingo: Right and they can keep some token amount of BTC in Multibit or get a fucking prepaid credit card
BingoBoingo: (By Multibit I mean the only serious version 0.5.11)
Mats_cd03: theres a revolution in payments just lurking
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: And the revolution in store of value will probably eclipse it
Mats_cd03: i believe you
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I just blew an 0.32 into my personal entertainment device.
Mats_cd03: i plan to spend my bitcoin on nice things when i'm an older man
BingoBoingo: If I am this drunk and eloquent. If I make you think twice at all. What hope do you have of facing competent sober and dedicated competition.
Mats_cd03: like a trip to the edge of space, a tesla utility truck perhaps
Mats_cd03: id love an electric truck
Mats_cd03: that'd be godly
KRS1: BingoBoingo you should go gamble some btc
KRS1: i do my best work when im drunk
Mats_cd03: actually id love to own a car period
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I just I priced all of the risk for today I am going to buy. Drunkeness and Disciple don't have to be exclusive.
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Lithium batteries are too expensive for jsut casual use
Mats_cd03: what do you mean casual use
Mats_cd03: tesla's battery management seems to hold up to 12,000mi/yr for wear just fine
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I mean with perfect cars Lithium batteries, even the fancy polymer sort degrade substantially in the first two years of use.
Mats_cd03: its pretty serious but still worth it
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Maybe some people routinely drive far.
Mats_cd03: a study ive seen shows that the battery remains about 85% capacity after 100k mi
BingoBoingo: Miles might be a great measure for time and distance, but in the case of batteries years is probably the best measure.
BingoBoingo: I say this only being partially informed on the battery issue and finding Renata silver oxide batteries to be near a miracle.
Mats_cd03: i think its 70% capacity at 50k mi in five years
Mats_cd03: electric cars are a great revolution for urban areas
BingoBoingo: I think 100 mg of lithium in some syzzyrip is more fun though
KRS1: i'd rather have the morphine or opiates thank you
BingoBoingo: Anyways I tend not to get cars newer than 10 years old because I like a sound motor with some history
KRS1: like..i gotta make it out to thailand maybe see chaang noi
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Don't knock shit before you try it.
KRS1: seems fun there
KRS1: lithium is that shit they give to mental patients isnt it
BingoBoingo: Anyways KRS1 100mg is way under what any mental patient would get. People just can't be that anorexic
KRS1: ah microdose
KRS1: i am in a good position to make some damn good sizzup actually lol just realized it
BingoBoingo: Going off of a calulator right here 2300 mg would take me to the minimum therapeutic dose for my weigt and alcohol tolerance
BingoBoingo: Actually I'd prolly get Mr Drive through Lincoln involved first
KRS1: thats the thing i'd have to figure out how to do those measurements to make something decent
BingoBoingo: KRS1: If you have to ask you are not qualified to find people to make such measurements
KRS1: right here
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KRS1: I have the internetz i can do anything
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Who do you think you are? Lil Debbie?
KRS1: haha
BingoBoingo: Imma bake a cake
KRS1: all i'd have to do is substitute the promethezine for morphine i have
KRS1: that would make for a great relaxing weekend
BingoBoingo: Orally dosing morphine seems like a waste
KRS1: why? I tried it..makes me just want to sleep
KRS1: so it sux so i need something with it
KRS1: no euphoria
KRS1: not sure why
KRS1: it does say on it 'for opioid tolerant'
BingoBoingo: Well, taking morphine orally you lose roughly 90% of the active drug product and get a lot of that 90% converted to undesirable drug product.
BingoBoingo: You would get gypped even more if you tried Dilaudid or heroin orally
KRS1: oh jeez..is it because of the metabolism or reuptake
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Neither.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.05499882 = 0.44 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I also dunno how much I want to talk meathacking here, but maybe if you phrase questions right I can offer some info.
BingoBoingo: Just imagine you are talking in #OpenBSD
KRS1: not that interested now some other time
KRS1: ya
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00099931 = 7.4449 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: maybe eeven if i was in my younger years..im getting boring kind of
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Well, while I was a TA in library school I sat in on prolly 3/4 of the pharmacy school curriculum
BingoBoingo: I feel very safe saying KRS1 if you need to get unconstipated find some mag citrate
BingoBoingo: People say cocaine is a hell of a drug, but Mag Citrate accomplishes its job much more thoroughly/
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: So this idea you have. How do users audit their device?
KRS1: did coge but not mag citrate never heard of it
KRS1: wait
KRS1: laxative?
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: What architecture do you use for for CPU that, I dunno signs transactions
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Mag Citrate was all the diet I needed to lose 20 lbs for my brother's wedding
KRS1: hahaha
KRS1: coke does that to me too oddly
BingoBoingo: Prolly though a different rought though
KRS1: this girl i party with says the same thing, actually its a joke now she has to run to the bathroom within a few minutes then she's good lol
BingoBoingo: KRS1: The one time I tried Mag citrate as a substitute for healthy living... It wasn't minutes in the bathroom
KRS1: i want to say it is the cut that does it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.48109997 = 8.6598 BTC [+] {3}
KRS1: ill keep that in mind..sometimes ya need a little help
KRS1: lol
KRS1: .bait
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Shit doesn't come for comsumers as powder. Comes in a fucking bottle. The adult dose is the whole bottle.
KRS1: im talking about coke
KRS1: .bait
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Dunno waht you are talking about
KRS1: me either
BingoBoingo: Been at least fuck I feel old since I would have felt inclined to try such shortcuts to stay awake and finish papers.
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Seriously though, how are you engineering your BTC card device?\
KRS1: ya it works for that
BingoBoingo: KRS1: If you want to keep which parts on my mentioning you are referring to so ambiguous...
BingoBoingo: Doubt you can beat that olive bitch KRS1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.481 = 8.658 BTC [-]
KRS1: she's ok
KRS1: big prizes, no whammies
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: i said..
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: damnit
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: what is this, the 70s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1507 @ 0.00299999 = 4.521 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Fuck the internet for being so distracting. Looking up all of the elements of dental extraction I'm fucking starting to price how much it would take to part with one of my own molars.
BingoBoingo: Looks fucking painful.
KRS1: i dont want anything to do with that
KRS1: nice bait
KRS1: .bait
BingoBoingo: With a 3-4 week lead time to get prophylactic antibitotics and sutures I'd probably price the first self extracted molar at 300 BTC and a pull a second at 100 BTC with 75 BTC for a third and 65 BTC for a fourth if I can stay awake that long given what sedation would be necessary.
BingoBoingo: Of cource for this I would be offering video evidence
BingoBoingo: i also really want to see how far under this the baggars price molars for BTC.
BingoBoingo: I mean I only have four functional molars with the rest having been impacted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00072 = 0.36 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: And removed uears ago in an experience that still gives me nightmares.
KRS1: wtf does btc have to do with it
KRS1: beggar pulling his own teeth for btc?
KRS1: .bait
BingoBoingo: KRS1: Forget the BTC label and look at amount of BTC plus... The inherent disencetives to performing a procedure like that on oneself.
KRS1: I'd have to have some really good drugs, and i would probably still not do it
KRS1: i'd beg for bait
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 2000 @ 0.000138 = 0.276 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: KRS1: That is why I offered the upper bounds for such a thing. For less than what I offered someone seeking entertainment that way might find a value. I merely seek to set the value of such a self destruction a a certain minimum
BingoBoingo: or maximum
BingoBoingo: My point in this KRS1 Is establishing at what point at which BTC payment would be enough that I would procure the materials to do such an act to myself.
BingoBoingo: A serious WoT rating would be required though considering... The consequences of nonpayment could be very expensive.
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I dunno if you have internalized how important this WoT thing is yet, but it is pretty hige.
BingoBoingo: More than Bitcoin and imporatant and enforced WoT changes society.
BingoBoingo: It chnges society so much I would pull one of my molars for a 300BTC reward.
BingoBoingo: And you don't even know if I need the BTC or merely would like the BTC
BingoBoingo: And since this is Bitcoin fuckers like Jimmothy might do thigs like offer 0.01 BTC per molar.
BingoBoingo: What BTC allows though is the freedom to negotiate terms.
BingoBoingo: If the higest bidder for my molars is Jimmothy at 0.01 BTC per tooth and his kidneys are worth a full BTC... Fill in the fucking blanks
KRS1: yea
KRS1: i haven't thought about wot..i suppose it could be..dont know much about it, but i suppose the bots keep a centralized record?
KRS1: I have already started working on my rating. I never traded otc so I never had a use for it and I also lost my last gpg key and started a new one.
BingoBoingo: KRS1: What are you on right nao
pankkake: you would be competing with people who have to remove their teeth anyways
KRS1: Well, I've been drinking..partying a little dont want to get too specific.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Who says mine don't need removed either. I'm not offering to merely sell a removal. I am offering to sell a spectacle.
pankkake: the price of a kidney has a precedent though, it's worth an iPad: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-teen-sells-kidney-to-buy-iphone-ipad/
KRS1: how idiotic
KRS1: thats got to be an all time low price
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Yellow people don't get to count as people when calculating the price of white person parts.
KRS1: hell i'd buy it for him turn around and flip his kidney for a profit if i had the chance
pankkake: despite them being generally healthier? :)
pankkake: well maybe not the chinese
BingoBoingo: Yeah, How do I know their parts can survive the stress of being me?
pankkake: KRS1: he actually got more but buying the ipad was the motivation; but that sells less news. still, idiotic
KRS1: would have been a great flip
BingoBoingo: I dunno, thinking about people I could hire as support to prevent a dead's man switch.... I could probably pull all 4 of my molars.
KRS1: more of a man than i
KRS1: i'm out ya'll ..gotta get some rest.
KRS1: c-ya
KRS1: .bait
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I also don't know if people realize by invoking adequate WoT how closely that would circle the wagons
BingoBoingo: Also pricing Buttcoins got incredibly boring. Let's price tooth coins. Next year we can price VITAL organ coins.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48600687 = 1.458 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4806 @ 0.00100075 = 4.8096 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Still, if for the premium over rando brown kid mircea or jurov would be willing to buy a video of me pulling teeth out of myself... For 300 BTC... Do I seem so Drunk I would be too stupid to take the offer?
BingoBoingo: I merely set the line that a tooth coin can't be worth more than 300 BTC
pankkake: the issue is that "people in the wot" and "interested to watch stupid shit" might not intersect
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I wasn't the first buyer of buttcoins.
BingoBoingo: Also by offering my own teeth for sale I am not offering a minimum but a maximum
BingoBoingo: As far as prices go
BingoBoingo: Also with the oppressive price I offer I additionally demand that no less than three week lead time to get supportive medications.
BingoBoingo: I am very sure india can go much cheaper
BingoBoingo: I seriously (maybe) hope no one wants any of my four molars.
BingoBoingo: I merely want a price cap to exist in this market
jurov: i offer one for 500BTC
jurov: *price cap blown*
BingoBoingo: jurov: You mean cap raised. I am nao the lowest bidder
BingoBoingo: And jurov is that 500 for the first tooth or 500 for all of the molars?
jurov: for one
jurov: but you know, how it works on otc. who is online makes the deal
BingoBoingo: And Voluntarism makes all of the terms negotiable.
jurov: i just hope some impatient teeth collector will be online with me while you're away
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.0045514 = 0.396 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: jurov: I have half a kilogram of active ingredient of Indian market generic Viagra that would make you think several times about that, because that is like months of uninterupted rape.
jurov: how does it relate to teeth market liquidity?
BingoBoingo: Not necessarily for you jurov but for collector who can't care to read logs
BingoBoingo: and spot the lower offer.
BingoBoingo: I also have huge teeth
jurov: the tooth i'm selling is 30% metal, rare piece
BingoBoingo: Sounds structurally unsound
jurov: my dentist wanted to prove something to herself or wth
jurov: after half hour of arduous work, she shown me the model how the plumb look
jurov: i was O.O
BingoBoingo: Maybe I am just a gambler who prices the risk of making this offer an acceptable price for getting 8 teeth plugged with metal?
jurov: 8 teeth would be B3000
BingoBoingo: I mean at the start I begin from the position of being down 8 teeth
pankkake: is it precious metal?
pankkake: my crown isn't :(
jurov: is amalgam precious? i think not
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Honestly from my research I might prefer mercury
pankkake: oh, certainly not. and that's now a big part of my teeth
BingoBoingo: amalgam incluges elements tha tused to be precious until mercury
pankkake: the issue with older filling techniques is metals interacting with each other
BingoBoingo: Then there's the part where trying to be a survivable negatiator I haven't disclosed the lower bounds of my offer yet.
BingoBoingo: pankkake: According to the brothers newer fillings have issues as well
pankkake: from my experience, it's harder to make them stay in place
BingoBoingo: To take this offer I'd have to figure out how to make video chat work anyway.
jurov: lower bound? go to any homeless, ask him how much for 1 tooth
jurov: 5c ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: jurov: Sure. Homoless does it for that. I wouldn't want less than a Dodge Challenger though. I'm trying to build a market. Like Buttcoins had.
jurov: market would be hard if the tooth aren't fungible
BingoBoingo: Teeth are most fungible though. More importantly teeth are hard to forge.
BingoBoingo: Like fresh Coinbases
jurov: in any case, my metal one deserves higher price because rarity
BingoBoingo: Teeth are scarce by their nature.
BingoBoingo: And metal doesn't increase the value of teeth anymore than plugs of semen increase the value of leaded crystal glassware.
punkman: didn't they manage to grow some teeth in a lab?
jurov: plugs of semen aren't work of the Art
BingoBoingo: punkman: Do you want 1/4 ounce of molar and half a pound of supporting tumor living in your shoulder
BingoBoingo: jurov: Art is fickle like that
BingoBoingo: Semen on canvas is fine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00100075 = 8.1061 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Semen in Scotch not so much.
BingoBoingo: I almost feel like I am going to be so pissed when I sober up on Monday and someone accepted the tooth deal I just offered.
pankkake: so cointerra is shipping… but with worse specs than promised
BingoBoingo: pankkake: As far is I know Buttfury is the only exception to that trend
BingoBoingo: Either way Garr is super scams
BingoBoingo: The scariest thing about that tooth proposition I made however is that I know I am not capable of drinking enough to totally numb the pain.
BingoBoingo: Like... I can get super drunk, but I can't even get drunk enough to dull enui at all.
pankkake: pain is overrated. well, unless it's so painful you faint, which can be problematic for what you want to achieve
jurov: why dull?
jurov: let's life be colorful, sharp and (sometimes) painful
BingoBoingo: jurov: I made some mistakes... like grad school
BingoBoingo: pankkake: That is why I imagine having the right to designate a second who may be rule s be unable to finish the job, but who can suture and stop bleeding
jurov: what if someone offers 200btc extra for you to do without any anesthetics?
BingoBoingo: jurov: Than I don't drink before hand
jurov: yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7096 @ 0.00100124 = 7.1048 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: jurov: At least these would be simpler twist and pull extractions. I did the whole unsedated surgical thing and to this day can't say if surgeon is live or dead, but he filed me full of dread.
jurov: what did you do to him?
BingoBoingo: I didn't do anything. That I know of.
BingoBoingo: FOr years I imagined things though.
jurov: consider yourself lucky
jurov: all my biggest pains ever were self-inflicted
BingoBoingo: Oh my close encounters with mortality were mostly* self inflicted. My biggest pains totally came from dentists waiting Six more months to see how fucked up this mest batch of molars would grow in
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.50897984 = 1.5269 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Maybe there is this Freudian thing that can tie it into my love of the motorola 68K architecture and distaste of plumbing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00487411 = 0.2486 BTC [+] {4}
jurov: you maight ask vexual about such
BingoBoingo: Maybe?
jurov: i have to go
jurov: later
BingoBoingo: And thus I remain. SO far the lowest bidder on tooth-coins and still enforcing a lead time that would let me get antibiotics out of india.
BingoBoingo: ;;eauth
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
BingoBoingo: ;;eauth BingoBoingo
gribble: Request successful for user BingoBoingo, hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/309BB8D7F3251143
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 26 @ 0.005 = 0.13 BTC
BingoBoingo: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5333b735863d25573d7f3e710ab258bb3bd8c16b3e2ec10a92a491fe
gribble: You are now authenticated for user BingoBoingo with key 309BB8D7F3251143
BingoBoingo: ;;ident bingoboingo
gribble: Nick 'bingoboingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
BingoBoingo: I may regret this later, but seeing as how buttcoins are so flawed and obsolete I offer to honor the prices I posed for tooth coins if you scroll up.
pankkake: gpg should come with a breathalyzer
BingoBoingo: No pankkake That would destory its beauty
BingoBoingo: If GPG had a breathalizer where would Pirateat40 be?
BingoBoingo: As someone who inds disorderlyness a moral imperative I am glad a vital tool like GPG lacks hooks and crooks
BingoBoingo: Hard to say who would propose a bad deal and try to drink their way out of it.
BingoBoingo: I may not be the richest fucker around.
BingoBoingo: I may not be the most culpable fucker around.
BingoBoingo: I will be damned though if I break a fucking contract in the BTC space.
BingoBoingo: I have the reserves to honor the whole of the potsweetener on the chess tournament pankkake
BingoBoingo: I also I hope... have the balls to pull one to 4 of my teeth for lulz given time to order some augmentin first
BingoBoingo: Everything is negotiable though in this world pankkake
BingoBoingo: Maybe sober me would be willing to offer more of a bargain
BingoBoingo: I dunno, but I don't want to live in a world where software prevents that
BingoBoingo: Anyway. If GPG forced a breathalizer I'd move to NetPG.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 148 @ 0.00286379 = 0.4238 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: For srs NeoBee still trades?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1517 @ 0.00281294 = 4.2672 BTC [-] {7}
pankkake: my gpg key expires in 2014. it seemed "far" at the time (I know I can edit it, thankfully)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.47260011 = 1.8904 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.47135883 = 16.0262 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3448 @ 0.0010027 = 3.4573 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4626 = 0.9252 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46020001 = 0.9204 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02893999 = 0.1447 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
wao-ender: damn, this is awsom, only in ukraine can be poledance so popular in national tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FS1bxaGTg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00099979 = 6.3987 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4400 @ 0.0000926 = 0.4074 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4700 @ 0.00008803 = 0.4137 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02893999 = 0.2315 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 604 @ 0.00099979 = 0.6039 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so on the good news side of things, i just picked up some indescript bark shavings and crafted a coupla bark flasks in eulora
mircea_popescu: they came out different qualities and everything
Vexual: can a player whittle?
mircea_popescu: basically
Vexual: awesome
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00283001 = 0.184 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 251 @ 0.00283 = 0.7103 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: thad'b be patience huh?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00282903 = 0.2037 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: i think moxies girls made a real version of that already for iphone
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1465 @ 0.00282 = 4.1313 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.45563332 = 6.8345 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00281099 = 0.2024 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00281003 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: detects amourous creeps and notifies 4 girlfriends by geolocation, 5 minutes later, said creep is pummelled unconcious by jimmy choo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 465 @ 0.00281002 = 1.3067 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 570 @ 0.00093998 = 0.5358 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00281003 = 0.1827 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00281003 = 0.1827 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 420 @ 0.00281002 = 1.1802 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00281001 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00099029 = 4.7534 BTC [-]
Vexual: i think it was called circle of friends, but i can't find it
Vexual: perhaps they decided they liked amourous creeps
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00441368 = 0.4414 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.00281001 = 0.3653 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: can i play eulora?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00281 = 2.81 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.04990001 = 0.3992 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake i see your feminism and i raise you a http://trilema.com/2014/the-pregnant-human-female/
KRS1: hetero moment plz
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: Mmmm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10855 @ 0.00099647 = 10.8167 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Feminist software is a cornerstone of any modern free society. We build this foundation." derp lol.
mircea_popescu: why not stamp collecting ? what's feminism got that stamp collecting ain't got to make it the cornerstone of random modern X ?
pankkake: it's a parody
mircea_popescu: ya i see. darn good one, it had me going originally.
mircea_popescu: or perhaps a subgroup of tards posing as feminists make it really easy.
pankkake: the reality isn't less dumb
mircea_popescu: there is some space for actual feminism i think
Vexual: mma?
ozbot: Broken Foot - Ninja Girl (Women's MMA; Female MMA) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: mno, just, there are specifiable behaviours which are both successful and also both statistically associated with females and conceptually derivable from the feminine. no good reason they shouldn't be specifically represented.
KRS1: feminism is gay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 553 @ 0.0008761 = 0.4845 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2430 @ 0.00085826 = 2.0856 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3900 @ 0.00085313 = 3.3272 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 665 @ 0.00085112 = 0.566 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.0008532 = 0.8532 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02894999 = 0.1447 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.42316153 = 5.5011 BTC [-] {5}
Vexual: real women hunt pigs with a horse and a knife
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.40509166 = 4.8611 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: how do you wound a pig with a knife from horseback ? do real women have 9 foot long arms ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.40095742 = 8.4201 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02894999 = 0.1447 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.00087588 = 0.219 BTC [+]
Vexual: well they'd have some sort of wolf hound too i imagine
mircea_popescu: so they're what, hunt managers ?
Vexual: yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: and if the kids fall into the fire, theyre idiots
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 102 @ 0.00469998 = 0.4794 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: but if i go hunting all week for a mammoth dinner, ill be really cross if theres no bacon for breakfast
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.40000001 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00440106 = 0.4533 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00433214 = 0.4332 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00430698 = 0.3446 BTC [-] {6}
pankkake: "The emergence of solar and wind farms to generate inexpensive crypto-currencies and the de-commissioning of carbon emitting mining devices."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.40129499 = 8.0259 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: is this some fuckference ?
pankkake: no it's super cereal. and on cryptolol exchange: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431195.0
pankkake: I didn't read it all the first time
mircea_popescu: stealing diablo's idea, for shame.
mircea_popescu: maybe they get a million bitcoin invested.
pankkake: well, except it has nothing to do with what the company is supposed to do
pankkake: but I suppose every bitcoin business has to make its own asic
pankkake: it's like social media, you just have to!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so retarded this, speaking of "exactly the wrong thing"
mircea_popescu: every "business" has to make its own a) altchain b) asic c) exchange.
mircea_popescu: this is incidentally quite clear proof that they are not businesses in any sense of the term, but mere extensions in the verbal space of the will to live of some twerps.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.39763157 = 7.555 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: they do not with anything else than to matter, to impose themselves in the world. there's no business there, just the desire that drives some poor third worlder to spam or beg or try and steal. the will to live.
mircea_popescu: pseudo-businesses are all about the "ceo".
pankkake: isn't MP?? all about MP?
mircea_popescu: this is why they do not in fact perceive they need a business plan. this is why the very sensible "ask mp's permission first" comes through as quite intolerable "before you may fuck youy must buy a bride from the elders of the tribe", a limit on the life of the young male.
pankkake: Vexual: nice bitches (ok that was easy)
mircea_popescu: i'm quite enlightenefd
jborkl: .diff
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1687 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.4614% in 10d 11h 31m 39s
pankkake: are the mpex diff futures dead?
mircea_popescu: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00166612 / 0.0016776 / 0.00175 (2339 shares, 3.92 BTC), 30D: 0.0016245 / 0.00185012 / 0.00333333 (16089 shares, 29.77 BTC)
pankkake: "French President Hollande will announce DIVORCE by March 28, 2014 " uh, he isn't married as far as I know
mircea_popescu: not particularly
pankkake: *difficulty* futures
mircea_popescu: o those. yeah, not doing too well atm.
pankkake: bitbet eating all the lunch
mircea_popescu: i suppose so
Vexual: or bitfury with a catch 22 buffet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0042064 = 0.3323 BTC [-] {5}
Vexual: is there a bet on difficulty in 11 months?
mircea_popescu: afaik furthest out is july
Vexual: 9b in may is a big call
pankkake: ;;premium mtgox bitstamp
gribble: Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 24.0106183483 %.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.4 = 8 BTC [+]
ozbot: “Business”, whatever that may mean. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: just for you p :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [+]
pankkake: cool, it isn't 90% irc logs, and it has pics. satoshis well spent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: ^ this morning's bounty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
nubbins`: no air bubbles
nubbins`: i'm getting better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 100 @ 0.00559405 = 0.5594 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: original pics taken by me to boot!
mircea_popescu: nubbins` o hey, looking better.
mircea_popescu: i might even consider eating one of those now
nubbins`: tasting a lot better too
nubbins`: i started adding rusk
mircea_popescu: hair conditioner ?!
nubbins`: really helps with the moisture retention
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: no, twice-baked bread ;(
nubbins`: like melba toast, or croutons
nubbins`: or in my case, a box of stovetop stuffing mix
nubbins`: comedian ;p
nubbins`: another few batches and i think i'll be ready to start trying salami
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.38101 = 1.9051 BTC [-]
nubbins`: someone floated the idea the other day of mid-to-late april bumps being caused by people dumping their tax refunds into btc
nubbins`: i'm not convinced
KRS1: nay
KRS1: people gotta eat and babby momma want that new coach purse
nubbins`: actually had to google that
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: HAH i know a girl that looks just like that we party sometimes
KRS1: except this girl has a face kind of like beavis
nubbins`: you mean she just walks around with her tit hanging out?
nubbins`: what a freak
KRS1: ya this girl i know is a real drunk too
KRS1: so she not always fun
KRS1: i just re-upped at the local liquor store..got me some more fireball for tonight
ozbot: TIL Most US Bank branches will only allow you to withdrawal less than $5,000 (cash) in a given week
nubbins`: i was thinking about this, there's a stipulation at both of the banks i deal with here in canada that you must give your branch at least 24 hours notice before large withdrawals
nubbins`: but i mean really. guy thinks each building holds enough cash on-hand to just dole out $20k to each customer all day?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.0045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
pankkake: KRS1> except this girl has a face kind of like beavis <= lol, can't unsee
pankkake: "You can go to multiple branches in a day/week but still you can't just cash withdrawal $10,000 in a single branch" so, what's the issue really?
KRS1: haha
KRS1: ref- banks and that reddit thread, US banks I think have been like that for a long time
KRS1: I cashed out $30K once and just had to give them a day's notice for them to get the cash on hand..i didnt answer any questions..had no problems.
pankkake: I don't think this is new or different from anywhere
KRS1: nope its not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.07525049 = 1.505 BTC [-] {5}
KRS1: imo kids are now getting involved in finance because of this magic internet money and there is much ignorance
pankkake: though at least in France big transactions - cash or whatever - automatically get reported
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.40285714 = 2.82 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> i was thinking about this, there's a stipulation at both of the banks i deal with here in canada that you must give your branch at least 24 hours notice before large withdrawals <<< this is true in romania too
mircea_popescu: but it's a convenience thing. you give notice so they can get the cash in the right building
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.38029662 = 10.268 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: they're actually at risk of losing their license if they fail to pay.
asciilifeform: phun phact: in the u.s., taking out < $X cash, where X is the government reporting minimum, is an indictable crime.
asciilifeform: (officially: if intent can be proven)
pankkake: you mean, travelling without enough cash?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.41024998 = 7.3845 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.41089626 = 4.5199 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: part of the entire "we'll make a joke of our legal system and then wonder why we get bombed" thing
asciilifeform: pankkake: this was about cash withdrawals from bank
asciilifeform: if you take out $2999, the jail cries for you immediately, in all likelihood.
kakobrekla: what the point of the limit then
kakobrekla: whats
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00099029 = 3.5155 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00099732 = 4.2386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00098931 = 7.9145 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: lol which one of you derps is https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets ?
kakobrekla: lolwtf
mircea_popescu: it's prolly pankkake
pankkake: it's TAT
pankkake: I don't twat
mircea_popescu: let's fingerpoint!
pankkake: I just finger redirected
pankkake: but he announced it here, anyway
TATdoesReno: the twitter is indeed me
KRS1: word is the north american bitcoin conference in miami is fun so far
TATdoesReno: account was made in a 'someone is wrong on the internet' moment
KRS1: awesome weekend for that, best weather i've seen in a while
TATdoesReno: it is indeed great weather for a circle jerk
mircea_popescu: all weather's good weather for circlejerks
TATdoesReno: did anything actually happen yet in miami?
TATdoesReno: or just more prayer to the lord?
TATdoesReno: i see bitpay is flaunting its success with golfcarts, lambos, and magicinternetmoney tshirts
KRS1: TATdoesReno Idk just spoke to a couple of people who went
pankkake: lambos on shirts or lambos?
TATdoesReno: lambos with BITPAY plate
TATdoesReno: lambo*
pankkake: nice!
mircea_popescu: the aeron play.
mircea_popescu: it never yet worked, but hey. we can't all be experienced ceos etc.
pankkake: at least aeron chairs are ergonomic
TATdoesReno: “They’re not in my mind an example of hubris as much as they are an example of companies trying to treat their staff more generously than they could actually afford.”
TATdoesReno: reading the aeron story
pankkake: a very good work station (including the chair) is basically a month's salary. I wouldn't consider it as more than can be afforded
TATdoesReno: ive long delayed getting a great chair
TATdoesReno: i sit so retardly
TATdoesReno: indian-style in chair, often
pankkake: well, changing positions, even if they steem stupid, is already better than not changing
TATdoesReno: having cats is also a delay
TATdoesReno: they love climbing them and such
mircea_popescu: TATdoesReno as graham i think summed it up, the dotcom bubble consisted of the following process : noob company bamboozles some backers for financing, goes and drops all that into yahoo's lap for advertising.
mircea_popescu: revenue in yahoo fuels the impression there's a web revolution happening, which keeps the investors "investing"
mircea_popescu: a year later, with 0 roi on all the "investment", yahoo is left as a behemoth without a business model.
TATdoesReno: hence google's being hellbent on diversification
TATdoesReno: people crying over them buying Nest are so dumb
mircea_popescu: pankkake a workstation only has value if you have people sitting there, working on something.
mircea_popescu: the corps at the time consisted of just the chairs.
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mircea_popescu: well, that and the yahoo advertising.
TATdoesReno: i sold all my fiat stocks the day before this whole 'emerging markets' problem happened, purely coincidence caused by procrastination
mircea_popescu: course, amusingly enough, if btctalk wasn't run by kids it could have become that yahoo.
mircea_popescu: but rain happens for naught in the desert.
TATdoesReno: they are probably left with more coin for having not done that, as they woulda got all wrapped up in pretending to have a real business
TATdoesReno: this way they just keep it simple with forum auctions
TATdoesReno: whats he got by now? 5000btc?
mircea_popescu: they're bit players.
mircea_popescu: and it's dwindling.
CiPi: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU
pankkake: mircea_popescu: oh, right. anyway, that's not how it should work; hire guys, ask them which chair they want
TATdoesReno: lotsa a chatter that the mtgox bank run is finally engorged for action
mircea_popescu: for curiosity sake, other than renting cars for the day, did bitpay actually publish its figures finally ?
TATdoesReno: i think so
TATdoesReno: somehting like $300k per mo?
mircea_popescu: well, so what did they make in 2013 ?
mircea_popescu: 300k per mo in december only or 3-4 mn in 2013 ?
TATdoesReno: i dunno, you could ask mr guppy
mircea_popescu: ;;ask guppy yo ^
gribble: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
TATdoesReno: probly Nov/Dec figures
mircea_popescu: and is that payments processed or their own net revenue ?
TATdoesReno: revenue, payments proc is higher
mircea_popescu: so like 10k btc processed in dec.
mircea_popescu: 1% of mkt or something. a ways to go.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4584 @ 0.00098804 = 4.5292 BTC [-]
KRS1: .bait
TATdoesReno: maybe we'll get our next bubble early
kakobrekla: where is this bait material comming from, church forum?
KRS1: wantd to call dead cat but damn, cant be another bubble coming already
KRS1: ozbot: give me my .bait
KRS1: thank you
KRS1: not into bondage but...hawt
mircea_popescu: some girls wear it well.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.43 = 3.44 BTC [+]
KRS1: yes they do
Mats_cd03: .bait
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 595 @ 0.00082992 = 0.4938 BTC [-] {11}
ozbot: The Gox Report
mircea_popescu: the idea someone;'s still using mtgox
asciilifeform: someone is still using yahoo. and aol...
kakobrekla: someone is still using irc
kakobrekla: o wait
asciilifeform: there's even the old folks still renting phones from at&t (this particular racket was sold to lucent, and still brings in ~$20mil/yr. until they die of old age)
mircea_popescu: i guess there's no accounting for noobs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, yahoo is actually huge in romania
mircea_popescu: and in some other 3rd world markets.
asciilifeform: if i recall, their search engine was killed and buried long ago
asciilifeform: they use ms 'bing' for the back end now
mircea_popescu: i think pretty much everyone in the 20+ range active online is on yahoo here.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah, but irc actually works.
mircea_popescu: someone still eats pressed duck, even if they have synthetic mayo now, and someone still hunts
mircea_popescu: ( http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential-16389400-video-vanatoarea-balc-organizata-ion-tiriac-desfasurat-parcursul-doua-runde.htm < romanian rich guy organises yearly hunt on his own grounds, the local wanna-be liberal fucktards hold their breath and throw a hissy fit each year)
asciilifeform: what, boar is 'endangered species' now?
mircea_popescu: what do derps know /
mircea_popescu: global warming!
TATdoesReno: Scientists, increasingly able to detect minuscule amounts of compounds, have begun to test sewage to gauge communities' use of illegal drugs. When people take drugs, they are either unchanged or the body turns them into metabolites before they're excreted."The amphetamine levels go through the roof during finals," Burgard said.
mircea_popescu: this should make a nice anti-nsa-spyon on reddit
asciilifeform: TATdoesReno: old news. 1990s.
mircea_popescu: "nsa is spying on your piss for reefer"
TATdoesReno: somehow i find this much more interesting than hearing that spies spy
asciilifeform: TATdoesReno: for this to fit in the spirit of the nsa funfest, it'd have to be something like 'toilets discovered to contain embedded drug sensors and cell modems, rat you out'
asciilifeform: this scenario is not as fantastic as it might appear
asciilifeform: miniature GC/MS instruments have been churned out in astounding quantity, for the 'homeland security' market (sarin sensors on subways, post-'95)
asciilifeform: the ones around here are roughly the size of a traditional pay phone
asciilifeform: so not quite toilet-embeddable yet
bloctoc: I heard somewhere on the internet that Obama travels with his own bathroom for such reasons as stated above
TATdoesReno: they just test the water to make sure the dosages they put in it are right
asciilifeform: probably SOP, post-Kennedy.
ozbot: North Korea 'executes slain general's family' - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English
mircea_popescu: bloctoc afaik it's an old loo created for nixon
TATdoesReno: relatives waited too long to exact revenge
mircea_popescu: back when he went to the eastern world.
asciilifeform: poor country cannot afford to jail opposition
asciilifeform: just as the chinese replied, in '89, to 'why tanks?', with 'we aren't the u.s., can't afford warehouses full of "humane" riot gear'
asciilifeform: btw the chinese have scholars, of 'soviet collapse studies,' and some of their output is rather interesting and educational
asciilifeform: and was translated (to russian)
mircea_popescu: interesting how riot gear would be "humane". it looks rather dart-vader-esque really
asciilifeform: for instance, they see their country as having 'sat for the same exam' as the ussr, and passed, while the latter flunked.
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asciilifeform: chinese cartoon on the subject
asciilifeform: english subs.
Apocalyptic: out of curiosity asciilifeform, are you living in Russia ?
asciilifeform: warning: not for women and other creatures with strong emotions
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: u.s.
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: moved with family as a boy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that view is popular, but imo flawed, fwtw.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in as far as the chinese didn't allow themselves to be 'chinese spring'-ed, it is close.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, china is extremely homogenous, with precious few exceptions. georgia and the ukraine however are both quite distinct nations from the muscovy 'rus
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mircea_popescu: the caucasus is its own thing, not a nation but a patchwork of nations, which are all factual nations, in the manner of the old "sick man of europe".
asciilifeform: ukraine is a complicated beast. most of the folks there with 'national identity' are actually from the western half (really, pre-partition poland)
mircea_popescu: the chechens are not in any way russian. etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ukrainian nation was born out of stalin' famine. it is distinct from the commonwealth.
asciilifeform: fact is, every mega-empire has 'fault lines', along which it can be cleaved, whether by 'natural' decay, or external 'help.'
mircea_popescu: yes. but some great empires have them through the heart, like austro-hungary
mircea_popescu: other great empires have them through the ass.
mircea_popescu: cccp was type 1. the adventures of little boi han in tibet aren't the same bread.
asciilifeform: undefended arse can be just as lethal as heart
mircea_popescu: yes. but ass can also be beaten into submission.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not proposing some sort of grand truth here, just pointing out that the differences between the soviets and the chinese are more than the similarities.
asciilifeform: many differences, yes. chinese have a few thou. yrs. of practice collapsing empire and re-constituting, etc.
mircea_popescu: not least of all, that.
asciilifeform: btw the mother of the girl in the film, is, clearly, standing for ussr.
mircea_popescu: there's no inborn fear of "chaos" in dostoyevsky's soul.
truffles: dostoyevsky kindred spirit, loved to gambol 3>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3959 @ 0.00098844 = 3.9132 BTC [+]
truffles: "human needs can never be satisfied" especially if u need 3
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02896299 = 0.2896 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2491 @ 0.00098639 = 2.4571 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2300 @ 0.00280644 = 6.4548 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 80 @ 0.005 = 0.4 BTC
ozbot: Majoritarian democracy vs republican democracy - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
mircea_popescu: remarkable the blindness of the scholar.
mircea_popescu: in fact democracy is altogether tainted by its association with socialism, all over the world, and as such it is intellectually and more importantly socially bankrupt everywhere, fromn the us to switzerland
mircea_popescu: that the periphery is following this trend...
mircea_popescu: there's no space in the medium term for democracy. it's dead.
truffles: mp i think u would govern as a dictator true false?
mircea_popescu: too much work.
mircea_popescu: i'm already the dictator of my own harem and that's more than anyone else seems to be doing, so. catch up.
truffles: u prefer puppet mastering ?
truffles: i did i took jab at it scroll up
mircea_popescu: no i mean, let other people catch up, put in the work, master their own harems
mircea_popescu: why should i bite more than is convenient.
truffles: is there that many women around
mircea_popescu: nobody ordained a harem has to be women.
truffles: ohhhh
pankkake: ponies?
mircea_popescu: whatever floats your boat.
truffles: its enough work looking after my pets and my partner
truffles: gl to the adventureous ppl
mircea_popescu: so now you see my sentiment exactly.
truffles: i see u as only providing the finances and the sex though
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mircea_popescu: obviously that's a naive view.
mircea_popescu: i provide the intellectual leadership first and foremost, wherever i go.
truffles: the irc image doesnt let me go further
mircea_popescu: i daresay it's not the irc image.
truffles: or the one ive imaged u to be
jurov: truffles perhaps you don't read trilema?
truffles: nope
truffles: i cant get past 1st few sentences
jurov: there you go
mircea_popescu: i provide the trilema leadership!
truffles: i did say the irc image
mircea_popescu: wait i mean readership
jurov: hehe
mircea_popescu: readelship
truffles: maybe consider a ghost writer?
jurov: writer who doesn't read? there are sooo many of them
mircea_popescu: jurov it'd go with a "reader" that's too lazy to think. we could build trufflesenema
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1648 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.8790% in 10d 4h 48m 39s
jurov: why why
truffles: i provide solutions
truffles: yall provide backhanded insults pfff
jurov: lmaooooo.. i looked up enema and it said it's clyster
jurov: that's helluva solution, yea
mircea_popescu: jurov enema = rectal irrigation
truffles: id wonder about a straight man getting things up the butt
jurov: you just provide the solution. i see
truffles: i doeth
Apocalyptic: <truffles> i provide solutions // why don't I see any
mircea_popescu: truffles what if it were a straight woman getting things up the butt ? would you still worry ?
truffles: solutions to crush u sir!
truffles: i didnt think u were around
Apocalyptic: may well be
truffles: 15 mins?
mircea_popescu: According to Claude de Rouvroy, duc de Saint-Simon, clysters were so popular at the court of King Louis XIV of France that the duchess of Burgundy had her servant give her a clyster in front of the King (her modesty being preserved by an adequate posture) before going to the comedy. However, he also mentions the astonishment of the King and Mme de Maintenon that she should take it before them.
truffles: mp i dunno
jurov: truffles: anus is full of nerve endings... it just depends how one has them wired up
truffles: rules on this matter might differ from men n women
mircea_popescu: wait, no more equality ?
jurov: what rules? can you elaborate?
truffles: semantics...
truffles: anyways i just said it is questionable
mircea_popescu: anyway, fun fact : emergency enema is one of the best way to provide emergency fluid support for people in dire straights (massive hemorrhage etc). it's much safer than intravenous support, doesn't require sterile gear etc.
jurov: so duchess of Burgundy was in need of emergency hydration, it's clear now
mircea_popescu: de maintenon made her cry too much foir too long
truffles: so its normal for yall to just stick things up random places huh
mircea_popescu: tbh, i always pictured you with a silly goatee and a prince albert truffles
truffles: haha
truffles: im pretty conservative
jurov: pretty and conservative?
jurov: that's kinda hot
mircea_popescu: you defiler you.
truffles: yea its hard to shake the christian roots
mircea_popescu: i thought xtians invented the buttplay.
truffles: never seen that spelling
mircea_popescu: teenagers sell virginity for warm winter clothing.
truffles: how much did u pay?
mircea_popescu: me ? pay ?!
truffles: u just take it??
mircea_popescu: lol you should work for dailymail.
truffles: yea i should right
truffles: i always spend 5 more mins than i want to on their site
jurov: you can write something like "romanian billionaire bought virginity with warmm clothing"
jurov: ohhh that didn't came exactly right :D
truffles: oh its billionaire now?
jurov: the more the merrier
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truffles: 'I gave my husband a kidney to save his life. Then he dumped me. Now I want it BACK' hmmm
truffles: "Doves released at the Vatican as a gesture of peace immediately fall prey to a vicious seagull and crow" haha
pankkake: in other news, satanists replacing goat imagery by seagull imagery
mircea_popescu: i bet you the crow was the leader in that team
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6284 @ 0.00097944 = 6.1548 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1174 @ 0.00008714 = 0.1023 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00275146 = 0.6879 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00275142 = 0.5503 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00275142 = 0.1376 BTC [-]
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 12760 BTC profit, 36.6k BTC invested, 541.15 mio bets, 4.92 mio BTC wagered
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 231 @ 0.00405 = 0.9356 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00405 = 0.2835 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43000002 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1059 @ 0.00274148 = 2.9032 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43000101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00097484 = 4.2406 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: where did 20k btc go from jd
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00388953 = 0.1167 BTC [-] {7}
Apocalyptic: kakobrekla, you're talking about the tx in December ?
kakobrekla: dunno, im just observing its 20k short compared to what it used to be
Apocalyptic: it's been at 37k for a while
kakobrekla: wasnt it like 55 a month ago?
Apocalyptic: some big investor pulled his share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04911002 = 0.2456 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00407835 = 0.4241 BTC [+] {8}
Apocalyptic: rofl there is a "usagi" in doge-dice's chat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.073375 = 0.587 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: i thought he was omnipresent
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11672 @ 0.00097439 = 11.3731 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: sometimes it has bad luck.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall it being 30k over what it should be ever tho.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00096975 = 3.976 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00434793 = 0.2391 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 123 @ 0.00087497 = 0.1076 BTC [+]
ozbot: China Halts Bank Cash Transfers - Forbes
TATdoesReno: I guess they are waiting for God withdrawals too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.41872341 = 13.3991 BTC [-] {12}
mircea_popescu: they be having serious issues.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 741 @ 0.00278 = 2.06 BTC [+]
btcretouch: TATdoesReno: this news are quite interesting dude, thanks for sharing..
TATdoesReno: I should note the author has been a gloom and doom predictor before
TATdoesReno: and was wrong
mircea_popescu: TATdoesReno no but they seriously have a problem, it's been bubbling up more and more everywhere past coupla weeks
TATdoesReno: spread em
TATdoesReno: so where's all the cash?
mircea_popescu: they've been selling all sorts of promises to the people.
mircea_popescu: basically sucking in middle class capital into various "investments"
mircea_popescu: they need to somehow explain that pretty much all that is now gonegonegone
mircea_popescu: without those people simply giving up on economic activity. or, what's worse, turning into a civil war army.
TATdoesReno: just print more money, what's the big deal
mircea_popescu: they don't want to lose currency discipline
mircea_popescu: they (rightly) see that as their only remaining available lever.
mircea_popescu: ie, the fact that the reminbi is not like the argentine peso.
mircea_popescu: such a broken fucking world when the first 5k images on a google search for "nike" yield pictures of some shitty plastic shoe-things.
mircea_popescu: i bed the goddess is displeased.
Uglux: you never googled for just windows ;)
mircea_popescu: apparently my experience is lacking :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4492 @ 0.00096816 = 4.349 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22008 @ 0.00097679 = 21.4972 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4199999 BTC [+]
KRS1: .bait
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3900002 = 0.78 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
Duffer1: prediction for 2014:
Duffer1: .bait will start linking to Trilema
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.37670759 = 18.8354 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.35226888 = 15.8521 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00097138 = 9.9081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13169 @ 0.00096848 = 12.7539 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34 = 2.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "you're just a running dog yapping around"
mircea_popescu: aahaah capitalist running dog! it has happened. my life is not complete.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1011.0, Best ask: 1012.79999, Bid-ask spread: 1.79999, Last trade: 1012.79999, 24 hour volume: 12817.65824802, 24 hour low: 950.73, 24 hour high: 1038.15894, 24 hour vwap: 1000.53504
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.00096938 = 37.515 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;asks 10000
gribble: There are currently 12999.984 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 19498675.7273 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1377 seconds
Duffer1: "BigVern ‏@cryptsy 20m
Duffer1: FedoraCoin (TIPS) has been added to the exchange"
Duffer1: oh good...
ozbot: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement
mircea_popescu: this is the lol of all time
mike_c: you should publish mpoe-pr's btctalk summaries and charge for them.
BingoBoingo: I the past week though Coin desk quoted some CEOness and used their running labrat as a sign of credibility though
Duffer1: that's a great idea mike
BingoBoingo: I wonder how much the MPOE_PR Anthology would cost for a bound edition
mike_c: daily email maybe. i'd pay for that.
Duffer1: the daily lawl with MPOE-PR
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19736 @ 0.00097297 = 19.2025 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wait, neobee lost zipzap deal ? this is the big announcement ?
mircea_popescu: teh lulz in this space, srsly.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in human skin ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c the way i do it is that i occasionally quote some bits here.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For the premium edition. Remind people the "premium" implies some scaricity relative to the vanilla version of the product.
Duffer1: does Labrat outsource their div distribution wtf is going on over there?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 they just send some btc.
mircea_popescu: sometimes the randomizer fucks up
mircea_popescu: (or as someone says, "shit happens")
BingoBoingo: Kind of weird that boring versions get labeled vanilla though actual vanilla is so scare when Vanilla like flavor is so common.
mircea_popescu: "I wouldn't have chosen Havelock as the exchange. Cryptostocks, on the other hand, allows fund listing with little or no ID or identity verification."
mircea_popescu: amazing when people actually have cogent arguments.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
BingoBoingo: I guess reading the logs it looks like I idented and offered to sell some molars. Sober me thinks drunk me's pricing works out rather well. I think I could handle pulling my own teeth at the price I offered last night.
BingoBoingo: And with the reasonalable caveats drunk me insisted on like a three week delay to acquire post care antibiotics.
BingoBoingo: A lot of noobs think running ad covered BTC faucets might make them money on the advertising, but the only honest way to prevent dupes if you run a faucet is to require submission of a rare body part.
mike_c: that was a hefty price for a tooth given a dental implant is only about $3k
mircea_popescu: that's only in insanelandia.
mircea_popescu: a tooth implant done well by a specialist is about $500 or so.
mircea_popescu: rest is red tape
mike_c: i like gold implants though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44513 @ 0.00097574 = 43.4331 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: I.e. Devise a device that consists of bag full of preservative with integrated cutter. Start a bitcoin faucet that asks for mailing address and BTC address. The desperate recieve a kit that includes bag with cutter device you devised and demands 1 right pinky finger.
mircea_popescu: a, that may be it
mircea_popescu: i think doctors don't like them, these days.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ceramics give a better likelihood of repeat business than gold does.
mircea_popescu: they have high performance composites
mircea_popescu: i dunno that it's actually the case gold is bette\r anymore
BingoBoingo: All of the composites are too brittle to survive more than 5 years in higher wear applications.
mircea_popescu: think for a moment, the space shuttle is not shielded in gold.
BingoBoingo: Softer gold fillings actually... wear instead of cracking
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14101 @ 0.0009755 = 13.7555 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Space shuttle also isn't worried about solid on solid mechanical friction with uneven application of pressure.
mircea_popescu: but wearing is problematic of itself.
mircea_popescu: "Thanks to our technology, we are a combination of online and offline wallet, We are a high trusted, safe hybrid cloud wallet."
mircea_popescu: the forum lulz improved significantly since the opening.
BingoBoingo: Wearing is less problimatic if wearing as a failure mode prevents violation of an ideally sterile space as opposed to cracking which often violates the sterile space.
mircea_popescu: tbh i don't think the new stuff cracks
BingoBoingo: Kind of true for the space shuttle as well seeing the way Columbia got owned.
mircea_popescu: it may chip, if you accidentally bite down on a screw or something,
mircea_popescu: which gold obviously won't
BingoBoingo: Amalgam prolly is the ideal material for fillings though due to its biocidal anti-fouling effect.
mircea_popescu: yeah except it leaks mercury
BingoBoingo: Leaking mercury isn't a problem for a dentist
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0271005 = 0.1626 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: FOr other doctors yes, but not the dentist
mircea_popescu: anyway, the issue of friction with uneven pressure : drillbits are not gold, they're tungsten carbide
mircea_popescu: a ceramic.
BingoBoingo: I'd kind of be scared if there were a movement teeth could undertake that was equivalent to drilling...
mircea_popescu: actually... chewing is what, 500kgf or so
mircea_popescu: that's enough to drill.
BingoBoingo: Drill bits that actually get used as opposed to gathering dust also have rather short effective lifespans.
mircea_popescu: well yes but you don't eat any rock
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Drills also have that rotational friction
mircea_popescu: i wonder if you can have boron nitride teeth made to order.
BingoBoingo: That would be interesting
mircea_popescu: no but consider a large enough abrasive wheel or bit : the tooth practically moves liniarly, in its own perspective
BingoBoingo: Ideal properties of drill bits and abravise wheels conflict at so many points though.
BingoBoingo: Aluminum oxide would make a shitty drillbit
mircea_popescu: i'll hide behind having said "ceramics" generally.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13470 @ 0.00097571 = 13.1428 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Well, for most of human history Aluminum has been included in ceramics while its use as a metal is very recent.
BingoBoingo: Who would have anticipated putting a tazer to clay could be so profitable?
BingoBoingo: Even tungsten carbide drillbits are usually impregnated or coated with the ceramic though with the bulk of the bit remaining steel. Steel is desirable as a backing material because its failure mode when spinning right round is more desirable than Tungsten Carbide.
Diablo-D3: >drill bits
Diablo-D3: yeah, but you CAN just make solid diamond drill bits
Diablo-D3: highly expensive, but there has been the rare application where this happened
BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: I'd hate to recieve that penetrating shrapnel when it shatters.
BingoBoingo: The problem with any filler material for teeth is that the deal life span for such a patch is 90+ years.
midnightmagic: Also, steel and its various types is still one of the strongest per-volume alloys that there is.
midnightmagic: Much stronger than titanium.
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: "Strength" as such is ambiguous. Could mean many things.
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: Luckily, I defined what I meant in the immediately preceding line.
BingoBoingo: "strongest per-volume" means nothing when your unit of measure is the ambiguously defined strength. Are you talking weight bearing ablity? Resistance to shearing forces? Hardness?
BingoBoingo: All of those attributes are "stong" things
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: Most of the measures of strength apply to my comparison with titanium on a per-volume basis.
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: We are dealing with two volume constrained scenarios here though, teeth and drill bits
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: Right. I'm trying to say that the surprising comparison of steel and titanium in volume-constrained applications such as these will basically almost always win in favour of steel, especially ultra-high-carbon steels.
BingoBoingo: Who is stonger? A person who can only bench press 100 lbs, but can do it once per second uninterupted for eight hours or a person who can bench press a Dead elephant carcass but three times a day as his maximum and can only lift lighter weights at a muximum of 8 times per day
midnightmagic: Anyway, I thought it was surprising and counter-intuitive thanks to decades of pro-titanium public discussion.
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: High carbon steels are brittle though. Incredibly so.
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: That's a controllable function of the alloy and/or annealing processes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00097725 = 12.9974 BTC [+] {2}
midnightmagic: That could have been a defect in the metal or uneven martinsite or cementite formation.
Mats_cd03: .bait
midnightmagic: You know those weird old wootz steel blades the persians were fond of? Apparently *with use* it's possible they got sharper over the span of decades due to micro-serrations thanks to martinsite deposits.
midnightmagic: pretty neat.
BingoBoingo: neat, but irrelevant when you are pulling a tiny slivers of steel out of your hand and thigh with tweexers.
midnightmagic: A vanadium annealed bracket would have probably helped. Don't buy any more knives from wherever it is you got that one. :(
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: I though that instead the lesson would have been the world consists of compromises. If you make a control system for a nuclear weapon, a well documented and radiation hardened Vaxen is probably the proper tool. If however you want to watch dogs and cats on youtube with no other concerns a modern intel CoreWTF processor might be ideal.
BingoBoingo: Everything in between occurs on a continuum.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00097866 = 1.1255 BTC [+]
benkay: mircea_popescu: the internet has indexed the vast majority of the audio out there and is now digesting all of the digitized porn.
mircea_popescu: more like, porn is the cheapest to make.
benkay: you think that's all fresh content?
mircea_popescu: out of your average highschool you can make maybe five minutes of audio, worth 1mb, 30 seconds of a movie tops, worth 5 mb
BingoBoingo: I mean additionally midnightmagic Factors other than the mechanical factor in at some point. If you want to make a machine that flies, titanium by weight offers obvious advantages over any steel.
mircea_popescu: and about five weeks worth of porn
benkay: ha
benkay: but still; it sounds like you expect everything uploaded to be freshly made
mircea_popescu: it's the case neh ?
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: That's a function of weight. By weight, titanium is stronger than steel IIRC.
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: Well, sometime these factors do: import importance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00097914 = 28.1503 BTC [+] {4}
ozbot: Bitvestor.us revievs
kakobrekla: amazing.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00097037 = 1.1014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00097037 = 10.383 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: also nice little story if anyone missed it
ozbot: [BitFunder] Graet.Loan - Paying 0.05% interest daily
benkay: wow
benkay: i gotta run me one of those
kakobrekla: what do you mean, ponzi or a unpayable loan
benkay: bitvestor.us and makebitcoin that is
kakobrekla: make a working site and sell instances of it
kakobrekla: liek with that gem thing
kakobrekla: seems to work.
benkay: 'i'm not a scammer, i just sell tools'
benkay: 'i just sell websites man what do you want from me'
kakobrekla: 'that code is not for smoking, only for air scenting'
benkay: man you can make money selling code to scammers and they don't just torrent it instantly?
benkay: do they pay for maintenance contracts too?
benkay: ;)
kakobrekla: depends how broken the code is
kakobrekla: make bad code, charge for maintenance
kakobrekla: yeah more shit is going down the toilet
benkay: "they haven’t used the period of QE to dispose of legacy assets"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28149 @ 0.00096906 = 27.2781 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: We've shut down the buy option at the Bitcoin ATM in Vancouver. : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00097099 = 32.6738 BTC [+] {2}
deanclkclk: folks
benkay: deanclkclk
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Who could have anticipated people selling be BTC would be a constraint at a buying device?
deanclkclk: what do you guys think is the easiest way to get USD/EUR to an exchange?
kakobrekla: myeah well who would expect all exchanges to be ran by retarded web devs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00096552 = 44.8001 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: Finding someone holding BTC and hope the want to sell
kakobrekla: ok sorry davout, i hereby exclude you from the described bunch.
deanclkclk: I hold btc but, I don't want to sell
deanclkclk: sorry
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: I dunno what lack of reading comprehension could have lead to that conclusion about myself.
deanclkclk: sorry BingoBoingo my IQ maybe 0
deanclkclk: but, my question is ....I"m trying to do an online exchange and wondering how exchange handles egopay to okpay for withdrawals
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: If you want to buy BTC which is the proposition you offered as well as what I offered a solution to, what you need to do is find people wholding BTC and buy direct.
BingoBoingo: Fuck egopay and okpay
BingoBoingo: You have a dick to do that with deanclkclk RIght?
BingoBoingo: Step one: FInd a person with BTC who wants to sell. Step two buy a cheap dufflebag and fillit with USD, silver, gold or some combination of those things. Step 3 consumate a trade.
BingoBoingo: Bring a scary looking armed dud with you, encourage your counterparty to do the same, or not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16558 @ 0.00096458 = 15.9715 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: Your problem is the insistence on a totally online exchange of your fiat to BTC
Namworld: It's not hard doing in-person transactions
Namworld: and faster than exchanges
Namworld: With a lot less of bullshit
Namworld: Even if there's a lot of bullshit dealing with individuals
deanclkclk: BingoBoingo: yes that's what I am trying to achieve
deanclkclk: I'm trying to target traders
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: Well, a reasonable first step might be letting potential counterparties know where would be most convenient for you to transact?
deanclkclk: what do you mean?
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: i mean... If you want to buy BTC with fiat, fucking let people who you would like to buy from know roughly what geographic area you make yourself available to transact fro.
BingoBoingo: *from.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00425383 = 0.1276 BTC [-] {3}
deanclkclk: how would that work on an exchange site?
deanclkclk: I'm talking about something similar to btc-e BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: deanclkclk: I am talking about how your assumption that you need "an exchange site" is the problem here.
BingoBoingo: Fuck you don't even need anything as nice as a duffelbag. Plastic grocerybag usually works.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28684 @ 0.00096174 = 27.5866 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.4 = 2.8 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: .bait
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00388899 = 0.2333 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00096458 = 10.0316 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: umm hmm
kakobrekla: whats the command to get the spread between gox and stamp again
kakobrekla: ;;google gribble mtgox bitstamp spread
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2045 @ 0.00008167 = 0.167 BTC [-] {10}
kakobrekla: hm cant find it
kakobrekla: ;;gribble fuckin help
gribble: yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
BingoBoingo: Oh, it is amazing how healty the fiat-BTC interface is. Choices consist of 1. AN exchange with no fiat (Gox) 2. Two cans and a string (Stamp) 3. Completely anon operators (BTC-E) or 4. Getting off the fucking couch and actually meeting people.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2205 @ 0.00007917 = 0.1746 BTC [-] {9}
kakobrekla: well my otc txes are faceless but yeah
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: BTC deanclkclk quit as soon as assbot said "AMAZING COMPANY!"\
kakobrekla: thanks for letting me know :)
BingoBoingo: Well kakobrekla Nao that everyone knows you silence comings and goings as well as cummings...
kakobrekla: im the opposite of mp. he ignores half of the channel, i talk to the half that is already gone.
BingoBoingo: The arrangement works though
kakobrekla: at least they dont argue with me
BingoBoingo: Most people who need lessons are people who quit too quick
kakobrekla: true dat
BingoBoingo: Defintiely better than -dev though where communication seems to consist of raise issue of Criticism or Potential vulnerability, wait, get kick-banned.
BingoBoingo: I imagine the inside of gmaxwell's mouth to be a smooth, wet, and silky place. Perfect for any dick to get sucked.
kakobrekla: ;;premium mtgox bitstamp
gribble: Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 22.4847018603 %.
Uglux: lol
kakobrekla: ;;premium bitstamp btce
gribble: Premium of Bitstamp over BTC-E is currently -0.384971492617 %.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00096458 = 27.6834 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00096229 = 1.684 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Does anyone have updates from AM's goopits?
the20year2: $200 diff between bitstamp and gox
BingoBoingo: the20year: You mean between BTC-E and GOx
BingoBoingo: One "exchange is run by people anon enough TradeFartress might be involved, the other by Mark who is so public the world knows his belt size. If Gox needs that premium, still... I'd give it less than two years to live.
BingoBoingo: (Pricing a time for BTC-E's failure is likely harder because their falure mode is probably just running with coins and letting the dollars be damned.)
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