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the20year1: depends on the part :D Dayton and cleveland have some pretty terrible neighborhoods
the20year1: But columbus is pretty nice, even the really bad areas (Linden, hilltop, southgate) aren't bad compared to the bad spots of somewhere like Cleveland
Duffer1: if it turns out to be true that such turnover is occurring at faster intervals, i'd say that's a net positive
BingoBoingo: the20year: That's the point. THe worst you can point to is "pretty terrible" or "pretty nice" You can't point to abjectly terrible or stunningly wonderful places in Ohio. Because Ohio is a bubbling shitpit.
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altkoin: ohio is cheap to live in no?
altkoin: isnt a house like 10k
Duffer1: 10k for a 3 bedroom
altkoin: where in cleveland
altkoin: columbus oh isnt that bad
altkoin: problem in those areas was the WASPs imported the blacks from the south during ww2 and then dumped them into the european-catholic neighbourhoods to wreak havoc thinking they could kill 2 birds with 1 stone
Duffer1: the20 is rental starter rental only or is property flipping something you'll be doing as well?
BingoBoingo: Even MIssouri which is a Homophone for misery can point to places worse than Somalia, like the parts of North Saint Louis without the Poles in control. Misery can also point to the absolutely heavenly places like Bush stadium. And oh shit, you can walk to both places within an hour.
the20year1: We'll look at flipping when it makes sense
altkoin: created a frankenstein
Duffer1: cool
BingoBoingo: Ohio is basically Kansas with hills.
the20year1: There are plenty of great areas of Ohio , the area I'm located in is fantastic in my opinion. Very low crime rate overall, property prices are low - I can buy 6,000 finished square feet for under $200k
Duffer1: o.o
altkoin: pennsylvania and ohio have a nice landscape
the20year1: Alot of areas, $200k won't buy you a 1 bedroom apartment or condo, but here it can buy a castle
BingoBoingo: Low crime rate isn't an absolute plus though. Could simply imply police state and the stazi oppress too much.
altkoin: 200k doesnt even buy a decent sports car these days
the20year1: and you're not packed in like sardines with a million other people
the20year1: BingoBoingo: very little police presence where I'm at
the20year1: half the county has 1 police officer
Duffer1: pretty sure the r8 is under 200k
altkoin: the20yearl: right but theres nothing to do either
altkoin: duffer1: glorified volkswagen
the20year1: Depends if you want to get in your car and drive for 30 minutes to go do something
Duffer1: how dare you
altkoin: the20year1: yea and go to TGIFs lol
the20year1: If you're ok with that, you can be in the arena district of Columbus which has just about anything you'd want
BingoBoingo: the20year: Well grand theft auto style complete lack of police can lead to an absence of recorded crime as well.
the20year1: Not really, it still is very low crime, people still have teh ability to file police reports when things happen
altkoin: bingoboingo ohio is not a warzone man lol
the20year1: Everyone is free to do what they want, crime is pretty well suppressed when 10% of capable adults in your county carry a gun
altkoin: id prefer pennsylvania to ohio
the20year1: there are q uite a few areas of PA that are identical to where I'm located in Ohio
the20year1: Gettysburg is nearly identical
BingoBoingo: What this Ohio versus Missouri dispute boils down to though is not Crime rates. It is who was the better second baseman last year. The awesome Matt Carpenter or the cancer known as Brandon Phillips who you couldn't trade if you wanted to.
the20year1: I love missouri
the20year1: My wife's family is from the springfield area, great land prices, lots of space
BingoBoingo: I kinda wish I still lived in Missouri.
the20year1: And for me, i'm ok with trading 'stuff to do' for personal freedom
altkoin: US cities were destroyed after WW2 when the ruling wasps decided to perform social experiments, they were afraid of the catholic population becoming a majority, so when they brought blacks up from the south to work in the war factories they decided to dump them into catholic neighbourhoods ie (irish,polish,italian) to decimate them
the20year1: It's nice that I can go in the back yard at my parents house and detonate high explosives, and no one gets their panties in a bunch
altkoin: today were living in that result
BingoBoingo: Springfield Missouri kinda scares me though because the only thing to do there seems to be get raped, OD on meth, and get raped some moar
altkoin: also the explosion in interest rates in the 70's and 80's destroyed US manufacturing
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the20year1: that isn't what destroyed it
Duffer1: the20 are there any ohio aread with googlefiber?
Duffer1: areas*
the20year1: Out of all the factories i've talked to who have relocated, none have noted interest rates as a reason for leaving the US
the20year1: Not that i know of, but we do have fiber in my area
altkoin: theyear20: yes it was. it made it impossible for capital intensive industry to replenish
the20year1: I'm just reiterating those I've talked to who run factories who have relocated outside of the US
the20year1: (mexico or China mostly)
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Macomb and Highland Illinois are two areas with municipal fiber. Much of the Midwest that god hasn't cursed with being a shitpit like Ohio has fiber to the home.
altkoin: the20year1: you are clueless. the sky high rates made it impossible to invest into new equipment, the companies were trading at below book value so vultura capitalists using debt bought them and sold them in pieces
the20year1: Their words to me were governmental regulations and high legal costs
altkoin: the20year1: the majority of US plant closures occured in the 70's and 80's, the 90's and 2000's was just the remanents.
the20year1: What stats are you going from?
Duffer1: lol damn bingo, show us on the doll where the bad ohio touched you
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: The taint, because that is what Ohio is.
altkoin: the20year1: US industry ie steel, was destroyed during 70's and 80's
altkoin: the20year1: the plants your talking about were smaller scale remanents in the 90's and 2000's who got trashed by regulations
the20year1: and it had nothing to do with lower costs of manufacturing outside the US?
altkoin: it had to do with interest rates being so high it was impossible to finance new capital, so corporations began looking outside the US to make up for this and they did via low wages.
altkoin: but the initial cause of them looking was the absurdly high rates.
altkoin: rising interest rates destroy fixed capital, declining interest rates wreck intangible capital(banks)
the20year1: the high interest rates didn't last significantly long
altkoin: hence why the banking system is insolvent after 20 years of declining rates.
BingoBoingo: altkoin: If I wanted to tomorrow I could drive 30 minutes and start making manhole covers until as I lose as many fingers as grandpa did as a carpenter. 'Murica still kinda has a steel industry
altkoin: the20year1: lol they lasted long enough to destroy most US heavy industry
altkoin: the20year1: you could literally buy corporations for 25-30% book value and sell them off in pieces. thats what wallstreet did in the 80's
the20year1: The interest rates in the 60s were in the area of 6% throught the decade
altkoin: dude im talking about 70's and 80's
the20year1: They hit 8.5% in '69
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You up for a game of chess?
altkoin: when nixon went off the gold standard rates exploded
altkoin: they went to 20%
altkoin: before declining for the next 30 years to what we have now
the20year1: 20%+ for a few months
altkoin: you realize anything past 5% its impossible to finance a project with? youll never make enough profit to service the debt. especially in heavy industry.
the20year1: By the mid 80s they dropped below 10% again
altkoin: the20year1: dude a 10 year bond was like 13%. thats UNPAYABLE on long term projects
the20year1: So then we should see a surplus of manufacturing startups with the government practically throwing loans to anyone whom want them?
altkoin: under the gold standard interest rates tended to be quite stable so US industry was able to reinvest profits
BingoBoingo: the20year altkoin: Both of you start citing some sources. Preferably motherfucking reputable sources that gave your mums a little D.
altkoin: the20year1: when interest rates drop, bank intangible capital gets destroyed. the price of a bond increases so its harder to get out of debt you need more $$ to buy back the bond.
the20year1: Like I said, i'm just stating what i've heard from people who run factories
altkoin: the20year1: 30 years of declining interest rates have left the banking system insolvent hence why we had 2008.
altkoin: what factories? tiny ass ones?
altkoin: majority of US industry began vanishing in 70's and 80's not 2000's
the20year1: depends on what you consider tiny
altkoin: drive through ohio and PA you can see all the shit from the 80's
altkoin: the remanents of US industry in the 90's and 2000's got ruined via massive regulation and litigation
altkoin: also falling interest rates allowed business's to constantly refinance lower thereby killing their competiition even if the competition was perfectly viable.
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altkoin: do you understand the problem is institutionalized usury?
the20year1: What do you consider usury? 10%, 20%? Do you want the government to set all private interest rates?
altkoin: every economy that operates on usury ends up being completely destroyed its occured dozens of time in history
altkoin: the20year1: compound interest is impossible. you will never produce enough wealth to service it.
benkay: hey guys i want to push a conspiracy theory cum trolling on the general public to hasten the end of the tyrant along the lines of 'fed is secretly direct depositing money in city coffers around the states to keep the usa "economy" ticking along - notice all the road construction? that's not fuded by tax receipts i'll tell you that right now" etc etc
benkay: best part is that it's basically true
the20year1: I still am trying to understand what point you're trying to make
altkoin: benkay: ? its probably financed via usury contracts (bonds)
benkay: see you don't even have to try with this one, people just pick it up and keep it rolling
altkoin: the fed is not direct depisitng money anywhere, they can only loan funds backed by collateral
benkay: mhm
benkay: if you're arguing with me about the actual topic you're missing the point
altkoin: QE wont work becuase the fed will run out of collateral to loan against
the20year1: they did that long ago, the real issue with QE is that everyone is racing to the bottom
altkoin: soon theyll own every treasury bond lol
benkay: FED FUD
altkoin: the20year1: racing to the bottom with what?
the20year1: and then teh whole world will collapse into mad max style gangs and we'll all have to just take care of ourselves
benkay: yessssss
the20year1: And thankfully, since I'm in Ohio, I can take care of my self
benkay: ONWARDS BITCOIN SOLDIERS
the20year1: All I need to do is weld some AR500 to my big old 4x4 truck and i'll have my own tank
benkay: yeah i'm putting together a crazy long shot
benkay: i'll probably end up dead in an alley somewhere, stabbed for my btc
altkoin: we already had high inflation
the20year1: Go around, taking women so I can build Ohio's bigges hiram, and then a bunch of slaves to work my rentalstarter fields of gold
altkoin: the future is deflation not inflation
benkay: lol biggest hiram
the20year1: and anyone that resists, i'll fire my big old pneumatic spear gun at them
benkay: *pchoo*
the20year1: put their heads on pikes, strewn about the once-lavish parts of Columbus
the20year1: so they know not to come to my county
benkay: dude when my cashflow stablizes i'm going to start working on hacking shotguns to fire arrows
benkay: flechettes
the20year1: I'm already ahead of you
benkay: oh oh
benkay: bullshit but go on
the20year1: not only does my 4x4 have fire-arrow mounting capability, i also can quickly build trebuchets to seige my enemies
benkay: bah trebuchets
benkay: chemicals obsoleted that shit
the20year1: and i also have a garage full of concertina wire
benkay: one doesn't even need particularly advanced fab toolchain either
benkay: that shit is useful
benkay: i am also hacking on vectored thrust drones
the20year1: i financed it all with high interest bonds
benkay: garbage drones
BingoBoingo: the20year: If the US decays to Mad max rules, we are both doomed. The difference between us if I can occasionally get a laugh out of the North StL mauraders which might spare my life.
the20year1: I'm surrounded by farmland, it will be easy to establish my zones of influence
benkay: i will put the children to work building garbage drones each equipped with throwaway shotgun crossbows
benkay: the mad armorer of cascadia
BingoBoingo: the20year: What do you do when these motherfucker show up at the border of your farmland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU
altkoin: europe has a higher chance of mad max then US
BingoBoingo: altkoin: And you have the highest chance of carrying an extra chromosone here
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altkoin: european cities are pretty much swarming with muslim hordes, brussels is like what 50% muslim lol theres already islam no go zones.
benkay: hey assbot your responses aren't correct under load
BingoBoingo: What are these muslim hordes when they don't have a sultan to give them orders?
altkoin: they have imams
altkoin: giving them orders duh
altkoin: marsielle france is pretty much a muslim city at this point, most dangerous in EU, they attack fire stations and police outright
kakobrekla: its how irc works benkay , not everyone sees the same. fyi i see what ass seees.
benkay: i'm also joking kakobrekla
altkoin: given the choice in a mad max id rather be in US vs EU thats for sure
the20year1: more room, more guns to protect yourself with
altkoin: in US you at least have a chance to defend yourself, you can forget that in europe
BingoBoingo: altkoin: I'm sorry I can't here you over the sound of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU
benkay: kakobrekla: didn't mean to insult you or anything, it was an oblique comment about programming on internet and bosses
altkoin: europe is a better place to be in normal times though if you are rich
altkoin: just way more interesting then america
the20year1: "interesting"
altkoin: yea like having culture.
benkay: kakobrekla: my next line was going to be 'you too, mpex proxies'
the20year1: "Culture"
altkoin: theres tons of places in europe that are also vastly underrated
kakobrekla: benkay lol.
the20year1: like bulgaria
kakobrekla: like you been there?
altkoin: slovakia, slovenia, croatia
altkoin: poland
kakobrekla: somalia
altkoin: even hungary
the20year1: all fun places
altkoin: in europe if you have $$ your living much better then almost anywhere stateside
the20year1: bribe the police ,get whatever you want
altkoin: the20year1: i dont think that works anymore
altkoin: those used to be the fun days
the20year1: those i talk to seem to think so
altkoin: yea i think its still left in some of the none eu areas
kakobrekla: whats left? police bribes?
kakobrekla: on the south. for locals mostly.
BingoBoingo: If China invades 'Murica to collect what fiat they are owed I assure you it probably won't be hillbillies repelling the invasion by throwing their flags up.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Police bribes are best bribes
altkoin: US is impossible to invade
altkoin: its too armed theres like 10 billion in ammo in private hands alone
kakobrekla: yeah i have done those before.
altkoin: kako yea police bribes
kakobrekla: dont work in slovenia, also very hard in croatia. but bosnia, serbian, no problem.รจ
altkoin: yea none eu zones
kakobrekla: also MK
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altkoin: kako: are you still long all your initial btc?
BingoBoingo: altkoin: The thing is actual hard parts to invade are not the parts you probably are thinking of
kakobrekla: well i guess so.
kakobrekla: but im not long, that would imply im borrowing.
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the20year1: US isn't a good candidate for invasion
kakobrekla: hm? that is bashable?
the20year1: you'd have to invade either from Canada or Mexico
altkoin: the US is not going to face economic collapse for awhile
altkoin: its still a gigantic farm to tax
the20year1: Hopefully not
the20year1: US is a big place, smallpox might do a decent job, but it'd have to be quite effective
altkoin: the west is facing demographic collapse
altkoin: which is tied with economic collapse
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the20year1: I guess, btu there are still quite a few groups in teh US that are growing reasonably well that are high population producers - latinos and evangelical christians
altkoin: yea the US isnt as bad as europe
altkoin: europe at current rates will be a mostly muslim continent within 2 generations
the20year1: Europe is a mess
altkoin: it will be a massive bosnia
the20year1: although I think they'll resort to 'traditional habbits' like genocide before it becomes a huge issue
altkoin: well im pretty sure they will just end up kicking all islam out
altkoin: theres only so much you can put up with, its been 1000 year history of islams constant invasions
altkoin: they enter a place, put up a few mosques and turn everything in a huge ghetto
altkoin: into*
altkoin: lazy as hell
BingoBoingo: altkoin: How do you think the Spanish invaded the US so successfully. It was mostly smallpox and demographic collapse.
altkoin: the spanish invaded the US?
altkoin: right pal.
altkoin: there was nothing in the US other then nomadic tribes wondering about
altkoin: the savagery the spanish witnessed was absolutely shocking
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You sound like a spectacularly racist nigger nao
altkoin: lol yea
BingoBoingo: Also.. Which european power sold FLorida
altkoin: your talking politically correct history that is totally disconnected from reality
altkoin: there was nothing in america when europeans landed
altkoin: most of the natives were killing each other off, hence if you study US battles youll see one tribe always joins up with one of the european powers against another
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Well, explain the stands of nut trees and fruit bushes that resembled gardens through the entire eastern US by the time Squanto, The last man standing met the pilgrims.
altkoin: also the spanish were in complete shock when they saw the type of activities the inca's were engaged in
BingoBoingo: Well, the Incas were perverts.
altkoin: baby killing, mass human sacrifice, demon worship etc.
altkoin: its all documented
altkoin: they werent some "one with nature" civilization living in a utopia
punkman1: they just wanted dat inca gold
altkoin: actually most of the new world had silver not gold
altkoin: well, less gold then they expected
altkoin: europe needs to go back to its pre enlightenment roots if it wants to survive, its been failed utopia after failed utopia in europe since the enlightment, massive wars, genocides
altkoin: inventions of concepts like race superiority
jborkl: The catholic church got so rich by being super duper nice and educating Indians
altkoin: dude most of their wealth is illiquid
altkoin: its art and land
altkoin: like yea go sell a fresco lol.
altkoin: the majority of church wealth was stolen by nation states and looted
altkoin: protestant reformation started the chain of events that would lead to europes collapse centuries later
altkoin: by the way the catholic church was the only one that raised the issues of native mistreatment and slavery in the new colonies.
altkoin: the kings were basically looting
BingoBoingo: Maybe everyone views history as simply as altkoin
altkoin: no i view facts.
punkman1: I hope not
BingoBoingo: I wonder why scandanavian culture isn't much bigger in 'Murica then.
BingoBoingo: Well, I guess Ikea is a thing.
punkman1: re: baby killing, you know people did that because they didn't want their kids to grow up as slaves?
altkoin: because america is a destroyer of cultures
altkoin: all empires are cultural vacuums
altkoin: also modern scandanavian culture is a joke. its rooted in fallacies ie relativism.
altkoin: the easiest way to tell if a culture is strong is to look at the art and music it produces, and modern art and music makes you want to puke.
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Scandanavians were the first Europeans to invade the Americas. And why weren't they successful?
altkoin: right "invade"
altkoin: your univerisity tell you that?
altkoin: there has to be something to invade first.
altkoin: did they invade florida swamps? or new york forests?
altkoin: what cities did they attack? which roads did they use to get them there.
BingoBoingo: altkoin: The vikings tried to invade Canadia
altkoin: is landing on land invasion? lol
altkoin: like what do you mean by that
BingoBoingo: altkoin: I mean they landed in Newfoundland and were repelled by large armies of native warriors
altkoin: thats nice one warrior group vs another
BingoBoingo: Then a few centuries later the spanish land
altkoin: vikings were uncivlized brutes.
BingoBoingo: By the time the english land in Massachussets North America had been depopulated by disease
altkoin: everywhere they landed the objective was violence
Ademan: wow haha what triggered this discussion?
altkoin: bingoboingo dude how many times are you going to repeat the disease fallacy, there was nobody in north america
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altkoin: it was nomadic tribes moving around
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You can call nearly everything a fallacy until evidence is introduced. I suggest reading moar.
altkoin: there is no evidence
altkoin: your talking modernist revised history that always puts everything bad on the european.
altkoin: north america had nothing.
BingoBoingo: Oh, no evidence other than a fuckton of dead vikinfs in canada and cities in the eastern US that suddenly collapsed due to disease
altkoin: what cities?
altkoin: there wasnt a single "native" city in north america
altkoin: they were nomads
BingoBoingo: Well, let us start with Cahokia altkoin
altkoin: what city did they inhabit
Ademan: What are you guys arguing? That north america can't be invaded, or that north america can't be invaded *now*?
altkoin: hes talking about how europeans invaded north america some 500 years ago or whatever
Ademan: because talking about dead vikings seems a bit tangential to discussing invading north america *now*
altkoin: and found immense native cities and civilization
altkoin: and advanced technologies
altkoin: but disease killed everyone
altkoin: i mean its always something with the self hating european these days
Ademan: is that really what you guys were arguing? That sounds verifiable
altkoin: yea i know lol
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Cahokia was a city of Native Americans roughly as big as the collection of mistizos in trailers living there nao
altkoin: prove it.
BingoBoingo: They made dirt piles bigger than some of the pyramids
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altkoin: yea
altkoin: i guess you can call that a city.
altkoin: mass sacrifice mounds
BingoBoingo: Along the Mississippi there are other numerous and less impressive cities
BingoBoingo: Also altkoin If you want to control a population and don't have pepper gas, what tool would you use. Sacrifice mounds seemed to be awfully effective...
altkoin: the majority of natives were nomads or members of complete savage "empires" engaged in mass scale human sacrifice, cannibalism, etc
BingoBoingo: altkoin: That doesn't sound very different than the Greeks or the Dagas just a few centuries earlier.
Duffer1: lol wat
BingoBoingo: Or how do you do the plural of Dago
Ademan: I'm unaware of any cannibalism in north america...
Duffer1: or human sacrifice
Ademan: depends on where you draw the line for central america really
altkoin: duffer1 lol are you kidding me.
altkoin: human sacrifice was a staple amongst natives
BingoBoingo: When Romulus and Remus raped the Saibines, what protein were they eating?
Duffer1: which natives?
altkoin: iroquois were notorious cannibals
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Iriqouis were the original Chis Christie New Jersey fat asses
altkoin: lol
BingoBoingo: So altkoin You have labled maybe 200 square miles of isolationists cannibals
BingoBoingo: What I wonder is how dense a person has to be to suppose that pecan trees grow in massive homogenous groves, larger than the largest ollive groves in Europe at the time
altkoin: i wonder if we are witnessing the end of the altcoins in this latest sell off
BingoBoingo: altkoin: I don't dispute that Europeans conquered North America. I dispute you supposition that North (i.e. Richest nao America) was an uninhabited wasteland
altkoin: i think the next leg up in bitcoin will not involve altcoin participation
Duffer1: bitcoin does it's own thing, altcoins do theirs
Duffer1: there will always be altcoins
altkoin: bingoboingo: when the europeans arrived it was a wasteland with nomads. i never disputed civilizations existing, but they were subsistence level based on ritual sacrfiice and slaughter, and almost none were around when europeans began colonizing north america
altkoin: cahokia was like 500 years before european contact
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You sound like the exact sort of person who the North County Cowboys would be thrilled to harvest. Scroll up to see youtube videos.
altkoin: and you sound like a self hating swede
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Well cahokia collapsed roughly 100 years after scandanavian conact...
altkoin: based on your speculation
BingoBoingo: altkoin: And python scripts.
altkoin: look how far cahokia is from newfoundland
Ademan: I scrolled up and ended up listening to da union...
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Roughly 100 years as a virus
altkoin: yea right
altkoin: everyone from sweden hates themselves for some reason, i mean its to the point where your telling me your super great ancestors even spread a virus that wiped out a society lol
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Maybe you just work in the wrong mindset. As a native Illinoisian I am accustomed to measuring distance and time in the same units.
Ademan: I'm not swedish but I wouldn't give a shit if my ancestors spread a virus... I didn't do it...
BingoBoingo: Also my ancestors are dutch
altkoin: yea whatever
BingoBoingo: All they spread was the high
Ademan: that's some retarded "original sin" style inherrited guilt shit
punkman1: and tulips
Duffer1: i guess what we really need to know is
altkoin: and stocks
Duffer1: will it blend?
punkman1: it will
altkoin: and central banks
altkoin: and corporations
Ademan: one of the dutch tulips strains was really awesome
punkman1: so YC is gonna cure AIDS nao
punkman1: for free!
BingoBoingo: Ademan: You should see my front yard in about 11.6 weeks
ozbot: Tulip breaking virus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
punkman1: maybe it will have ADS
Ademan: BingoBoingo: When did you plant them?
BingoBoingo: Ademan: Years ago. They got roots
Ademan: ah cool
punkman1: I planted a bougainvillea yesterday
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You sound like the sort of self censoring mother fucker who would rather imagine North America was completely uninhabited (though how did the Incas and Aztecs get to their ruins) than suppose an ancestor of yours might have ever killed a motherfucker for their land
altkoin: no im not disputing that
altkoin: your the one using words like "invasion"
Ademan: these guys actually have good trigger discipline... is that gangsta?
altkoin: they never had any land to begin with
altkoin: it was nomadic tribes. land becomes yours when you add value to it
altkoin: ie homesteading
altkoin: you cant claim large swaths of land lol thats absurd
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altkoin: land by itself is useless, it needs human labor for value to be created
Ademan: but then they said "clip"
altkoin: thats the "price" you pay for it.
Ademan: that's a hell of a banana "clip" though
BingoBoingo: Ademan: Yeah, if 'Murica collapses they will own all of your shit
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BingoBoingo: altcoin There are still permanent structures native Americans left.
Ademan: BingoBoingo: luckily they're not near me :-)
Ademan: and also the stereotype of gang bangers not being able to hit jack shit is true in my experience at the range (maybe the rest are so good they don't go to the range?)
BingoBoingo: Ademan: Well, the official position of the StL pd is cointainment rather than confrontation.
ozbot: Introducing Ethereum - YouTube
BingoBoingo: altkoin: I just dunno what mistaken presupositions you might have that suggest the horrible NE USA was cultivated in such a hospitible manner.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37848 @ 0.0009933 = 37.5944 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00099459 = 23.7707 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00308633 = 0.1327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00099257 = 14.6404 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499883 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.46155001 = 4.6155 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.52739874 = 5.274 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.53999998 = 1.62 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.005 = 0.105 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003075 = 0.1538 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.005 = 0.165 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7954 @ 0.00099575 = 7.9202 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Rectaltronics Inc. Home Page
jurov: what, custom-made buttplugs?
jurov: and dat log again....funny muricans think they have worse police state than ukraine and worse neighborhoods than somalia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00308418 = 0.4626 BTC [+] {4}
jurov: even that nuclear power discussion fail
jurov: 1. atomic bomb gets invented
jurov: 2. nuclear power get invented
jurov: 3. nuclear power is adapted to make moar bombs
jurov: 4. nuclear power is blamed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.47050202 = 5.646 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00308949 = 1.8537 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00099146 = 40.8482 BTC [-] {3}
simlay: I wonder if Rectaltronics makes dynamic buttplugs.
simlay: Or if that's a legitimate thing.
simlay: I should write a patent.
punkman1: "The patented Rectaltronic Stereophonic effect is a key part of every Rectaltonics butt-plug sold. Utilizing microprocessor technology to provide patented waveform control of the oscillation units, a unique surround feeling (not unlike Sensurround(tm)) is generated upon insertion an activation of the butt-plug."
Duffer1: fascinating
simlay: Yeah, I thought of an idea that was to do Machine learning on sex toys.
simlay: ie, automate orgasms
Duffer1: like a 5.1 homestereo
Duffer1: but for your ass
BingoBoingo: simlay: Sorry you are so incredibly late
simlay: Does it exist?
punkman1: it's an old joke that site
simlay: haha. That makes it much better.
simlay: Tomball, Texas
simlay: does not seem like the place to make buttplugs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.48 = 6.24 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.00309 = 0.3986 BTC [+]
TomYum_: OP: I have a question about sending traffic as an affiliate. Are you online to answer?
TomYum_: Can I send traffic to main page for credit or need to be link to specific bet?
BingoBoingo: TomYum_: I am a SLashot champion I know about much traffic, much victory
BingoBoingo: TomYum_: It sounds liek you actually don't need a link you annoy anough already
BingoBoingo: Write on your left buttcheek Bingo.
BingoBoingo: On Your right buttcheek write Boingo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00309 = 1.236 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I offer 0.0005 BTC for completing this task.
BingoBoingo: TomYum_: If that offer is too poor for you write ROADHOUSE on your body and learn how to be a moar polite bitch
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.00309201 = 0.2628 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: no marker?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79332 @ 0.00099686 = 79.0829 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Sharpie was it mentioned or merely implyied
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6668 @ 0.00099901 = 6.6614 BTC [+]
Duffer1: no i meant you usually offer extra for marker in the cornhole
Duffer1: or was that someone else
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: No. I usually offer a bitof pittance for people who put a sharpie in their pooper for the pittance they offer.
dub: sharpie is murican for marker
Duffer1: i see
BingoBoingo: Since there is no such thing as a pittance in BTC anymoar I am no longer encouraging mother fuckers to rape their mums.
Duffer1: shame that
BingoBoingo: shame you Duffer1 you rape factory
Duffer1: so rape
Duffer1: much wow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 231 @ 0.00483256 = 1.1163 BTC [-] {10}
BingoBoingo: BTW, I am offering 1BTC for a hammer if with that hammer you can provide Trade Fortress's warm body
Duffer1: เฒ _เฒ 
BingoBoingo: fuck your judg ascii Duffer1
Duffer1: did they never find TF? i haven't been following that
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: There are strong leads on that case, but best as I can tell TF might as well be the sluggards who declared themselves TF's worst enemies.
punkman1: "Google Glass-wearing movie patron questioned by Homeland Security agents as potential pirate"
punkman1: I don't even need comedy anymore, news headlines do just fine
punkman1: "Google patents ad-powered taxi service that would offer free rides to shoppers. Advertisers would pay for your transportation in the hope that you buy something."
BingoBoingo: Some people are trying to keep descendants of TF's CoinChat a thing. Just answaer then with Niggers.txt says sharks are delicious.
punkman1: how about free housing in all those half-empty malls?
pankkake: they got their strategy from http://youtu.be/HTkA9L2J2gY
pankkake: anyway, advertising isn't some infinitely expanding cakeโ€ฆ especially when businesses are looking to reduce costs
punkman1: yeah but maybe you'll steal a twinkie while living for free in the mall, and they can finally claim insurance
BingoBoingo: punkman1: How about you suck my dick or I feed you to tillikum you fucking bitch
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Punkman is an infinitely expandin cake
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37873 @ 0.00099174 = 37.5602 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: and I was missing a discussion about butt plugs. why do I sleep
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Because Tillikum's revenge is the most just ship on the seven seas and it is bringing back real oil, whale oil.
BingoBoingo: Because fuck those fatties
BingoBoingo: Also like Tillikum has ate so many people
BingoBoingo: I am surprisingly cool with an orca eating hald the people my mouse touches. What are you fucks going to do? Cook better meth heisenberg?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6228 @ 0.00098983 = 6.1647 BTC [-]
punkman1: I'll feed your dick to Tilikum and swim away while he sucks you off
BingoBoingo: So.... Three days later jiggaboo shit.RU wins the referral contest.
BingoBoingo: Second place is Slashdot.
BingoBoingo: Third place is niggers.txt so punkman you just keep imangining your dick such that I might price risk such that sucking it might be attactive you cunt.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00099817 = 35.3352 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Here's a hint punkman1 niggers.txt exists,
BingoBoingo: davout: Back me up niggers.txt is a thing and not merely ehat happens you you eat a delicious shroomy pizza
BingoBoingo: MLK was a big fan of niggers.txt
pankkake: are you all intoxicated?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: What you need to aks is intoxicated me?
pankkake: okay
BingoBoingo: I am ready. I have been readyl I can handle leik all of the niggers.txt.
pankkake: I take your niggers.txt and challenge you with a porchmonkey.pdf
BingoBoingo: Pankkake you overplayed your hand there.
BingoBoingo: Only superniggers wnt to stay niggs like that forever
BingoBoingo: Also noone trusts .pdf
BingoBoingo: Such amaze... i made a niggers.txt that fronted slashdot.
BingoBoingo: Arre yall a bunch of fucking cosbies?
punkman1: veritable scholar
pankkake: and gentlenigger
pankkake: ;;ud cosbies
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cosby | A multi colored sweater. Stemming from the days of the Cosby show, in which the main character, Heathcliff Huxtable, played by Bill Cosby, constant...
punkman1: DO NOT ALLOW TO FALL INTO ENEMY HANDS
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.50499999 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: pankkake: How do you know what shade o suncreen I use?
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: cosby
BingoBoingo: punkman1: FU stop having your peaps OD so much. Kinda kills my objections to lethat injection... or do you like that bitch
punkman1: WE GOT YOU TO READ THIS FAR AND NOW IT'S TOO LATE!
BingoBoingo: punkman1: Do you like the fact that either of use can roll enough [potassium choloride between our finders to kill an elepant and yet... Your friends are still the dieing est sumc of the wrld. Bitch.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.50499999 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: punkman1: I'm about to sleep nao, but the worst thing for you has to be... You can't te;ll if I am honest or troll.
BingoBoingo: punkman1: Dun worry if the sucking goes well I am sure kakobrekla will alert all of -assets. Won't make you any less of a bitch though fucker.
punkman1: a drug addicted astronaut in the midst of confronting the fact of his homosexuality
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20446 @ 0.00099901 = 20.4258 BTC [+]
Vexual: did someone say acres of oak @ 1k?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00099972 = 36.3898 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3472 @ 0.00099817 = 3.4656 BTC [-]
Vexual: you could rent that to squirrels for some serious acorn
Vexual: or mill it and turn it into heirloom furniture
Vexual: durable goods had a different meaning 60 years ago
ozbot: Space Oddity - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9565 @ 0.00099375 = 9.5052 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: homo sapiens are fucking awesome
Vexual: .bait
pankkake: .bait
Vexual: such ai
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24688 @ 0.00100075 = 24.7065 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: my last utebe video and my last bottle of vodka http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVMoxMAF6SA
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 4 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.6935% in 0d 0h 28m 28s
deadweasel: ah, bitbets money spout prepares to explode!
mircea_popescu: i thought we were running off with it
deadweasel: if you beleive the comments you are
mircea_popescu: comments always know better than the people involved, i find.
deadweasel: I'd be happy with my 1% over time.
mircea_popescu: that's the staying power of the internet
deadweasel: I love that the first comment is what's his name butt-hurt, warning people not to use the site...
deadweasel: biggest bet ever!
deadweasel: *love* it, karmarific
deadweasel: what was his name anyway?
mircea_popescu: deadweasel kinda the risk of opening teh mouth and removing all doubt lol
mircea_popescu: deadweasel joe or sam or something 3 letter. iirc he was on various site comments going "o noes, this guy is a scammor, do not write about him, here's a btctalk link"
Vexual: in a 3d casino that cat would have skin off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00100201 = 40.5814 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: late money is a bad idea, whatever the outcome
mircea_popescu: somewhat depends on the implicit odds, generally. but this late, yeah it is.
Vexual: its a wll tested model for casinos and gentlemanly behaviour
Vexual: despite the odds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.47873999 = 4.7874 BTC [-] {4}
Vexual: i can go to a holdem game where i might not get home with my notes even if i win
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: I'm pretty sure he improved your business, but I guess that's what they all do :)
mircea_popescu: management, you know ?
mircea_popescu: like sailing, exactly. you can go just fine either with or against either wind or current
mircea_popescu: just need to figure out where you're going and get a boat that'll float.
Vexual: so true
Vexual: and once you've learned to wait 13 hours or 28 days, you need big balls to go far
ozbot: Matthew Curry Brotherhood of the Guitar - YouTube
ozbot: India Arie - Get It Together - YouTube
ozbot: Monkey To Man - YouTube
ozbot: Jake Bugg - Lightning Bolt - Official Video - YouTube
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 2015 blocks | Estimated Change: -99.9392% in 27d 23h 17m 37s
mircea_popescu: lol -99.93% wouldn't that make some people happy
gribble: Time since last block: 10 minutes and 30 seconds
ozbot: Busted Stuff: Dave Matthews Band - YouTube
Vexual: we must expoect negative diffiiculy estimates at some stage
Vexual: or ignore history
mircea_popescu: yeah, but apparently that stage is nowehre close
Vexual: defiine close
Vexual: 2 years things will look different
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it could possibly keep up this ~50% a month for two years.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.2**52
mircea_popescu: 13104x, so it'd be 26 exahash or some shit.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.02889523 = 0.6068 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 180 @ 0.04999998 = 9 BTC [+] {2}
kyle_torpey: mircea_popescu, yes
mircea_popescu: aha. so what's this mensnewsdaily thing ? your blog ?
kyle_torpey: a guy started a website called newswax and paid me to write bitcoin articles for him
kyle_torpey: i think he also posts them on that site
kyle_torpey: because its picked up by google news
mircea_popescu: "Menย’s News Daily is the premier on-line publication for articles, news stories and opinion on world politics with a focus on menย’s rights in western culture."
mircea_popescu: now that's a concept.
kyle_torpey: well men have been put down in western culture for so long, you figure they need their own rights movement
deadweasel: human rights should cover it. this separate but equal is bullshit.
deadweasel: although so much legal cruft makes us uniquely targeted in US.
deadweasel: we need to find a way to remove the conditioning of our men in the states. so warped.
deadweasel: women too, but less important.
kyle_torpey: deadweasel, i was joking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02889522 = 0.1156 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 690 @ 0.00425866 = 2.9385 BTC [+] {17}
mircea_popescu: deadweasel i really don't get what the problem is. so a buncha doods are pussy whipped
mircea_popescu: why is this bad ?
mircea_popescu: let the girls have fun, they're still your chattel.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02889522 = 0.1156 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.47015 = 1.8806 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47 = 2.35 BTC [-] {2}
rattaTATI: MPoe hit. 001!
mircea_popescu: yest, yeah
rattaTATI: scams
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 973 @ 0.000901 = 0.8767 BTC [+]
rattaTATI: skimming logs, is Tiberius back as altkoin?
mircea_popescu: scamtits
mircea_popescu: pankkake lmao bum lesbians.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00090199 = 0.902 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the parties' self-designation of (Marotta) as a sperm donor is insufficient to relieve (Marotta) of parental right and responsibilities to the child, << basically the fiat court is saying, yet again, that it does not matter what the parties decide, because the court is superior.
mircea_popescu: this stands in stark contrast to our doctrine, as there is absolutely no law above the law of the parties.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00300016 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 517 @ 0.003 = 1.551 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003 = 3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.0029714 = 0.2882 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.0045 = 0.1125 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.0045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02889522 = 0.2601 BTC [-]
rattaTATI: haha I'm actually reading the premine details of this etherium thing
rattaTATI: such fail
rattaTATI: they want their million so bad
pankkake: why does everything has to be a coin?
Vexual: theres microscopes too, noone uses them
rattaTATI: cuz they must hazzadis their decentralization
Vexual: its the girl in the lab checking the motility of your sperm
rattaTATI: rather than offer an evil centralized service
pankkake: I'm sure you can have that stuff (at least in the same not-working state) without creating yet another currency
ozbot: Clare Bowditch - Bigger Than The Money - YouTube
rattaTATI: scam is apparrent in that etherium wanfts you to give them your bitcoins
rattaTATI: the irony of the launch asking for a bunch of bitcoins to make a better coin...
pankkake: lol, so many *coins doing that now
pankkake: IPOcoin
Vexual: cloudcoin cockcoin notcoin
jcpham: i have to force myself not to pay attention to bitcoin land
jcpham: alt coins just make me think this is all a big joke
Vexual: satoshi didnt make a stustless money system for every other turstless system to be called coin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [+]
pankkake: at least we have a turtleless money system
Vexual: yes
Vexual: turtles are a pain in the arse'
Vexual: hey mon
kakobrekla: hey mom
Vexual: hey, nom
nubbins`: h, money
Vexual: mmm, funny
Vexual: so piglet, u got honey or not?
ozbot: Leonard Cohen - Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye / ISLE OF WIGHT 1970 - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02889522 = 0.5779 BTC [-]
nubbins`: ^ watch and listen
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 896 @ 0.00462716 = 4.1459 BTC [-] {13}
Vexual: excellent ad
Vexual: top vid too
nubbins`: those ladies look high as shit
nubbins`: ~2:00
mircea_popescu: so basically the economy of bitcoin is, "get a bunch of noobs to give you a bunch of bitcents on various pretenses, go buy s.mpoe"
Vexual: 1 plant gets 15 years here
Vexual: i bought smidge for exposure to all the stupid shit, and thats what i got
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00099844 = 4.6927 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: not true, some people don't go buy s.mpoe
nubbins`: vexual, 15 years for owning a plant
nubbins`: imagine
mircea_popescu: some people also don't make gem investments and shitty altcoin scams.
Vexual: yah
Vexual: viet vets shoot copters up north growing 303
nubbins`: on the upside, it seems like retailers accepting bitcoin has actually started to result in consumers spending bitcoin
Vexual: its half png half vietnam from 67
nubbins`: was it the humble indie bundle? or something? that said that like 1% of their sales came from btc after they started accepting it?
nubbins`: today you have tiger direct scooping up $0.25mn on day 1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00451699 = 0.1581 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: 1% of humble bundle is what, 500 bux ?
Vexual: so bitcoins like a thng for internet commerce then?
nubbins`: it was laughably paltry
nubbins`: Vexual, it would seem so
Vexual: thatsll nevr catch on
nubbins`: i think a lot of this volume is driven by the fact that the people spending it bought in at a lower price
Vexual: email? just fax me
nubbins`: nobody who bought btc at $900 is buying bedsheets at overstock.com
mircea_popescu: why not ?
nubbins`: but the plebs who bought at, say, $400 are spitting out btc at everyone who will take them
Vexual: that egyptian cotton gets good after you wash it
mircea_popescu: that's a theory.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, they still view their btc as being too valuable to spend
mircea_popescu: i see what you eman
nubbins`: now take people who bought at <$100
jcpham: nubbins` i did a 17 item overstock spree for shits and giggles
nubbins`: "look at all this free money i have! let's spend it!"
jcpham: then i followed suit at amagi and waited to see who shipped faster
jcpham: overstock won, but only by a day
Vexual: yeah but you only got a tide watch
jcpham: now there's art on the walls
jcpham: go figure
Vexual: oooh
nubbins`: thumbs up
jcpham: overstock has some odd shit bro
Vexual: nod, tre cool
jcpham: jewelry too if you're looking for assets to wear
jcpham: in case you go to jail and need to pawn them
Vexual: i'd prefer a picasso
nubbins`: casascius coins on gold chains
kakobrekla: kinds miss something overstock-like in yurop
jcpham: remember: if you are wearing it they cannot "seize" it
nubbins`: hm, is that so?
kakobrekla: anyway, if you sit on a mil or ten, might not be a good idea to spend a percent to make your life better.
jcpham: it's jewelry
pankkake: so there's a market for solid gold butt plug
jcpham: i agree with kakobrekla
Vexual: yeah in dubai, illeagl and gold is gold
nubbins`: i agree with pankkake
Vexual: nos
mircea_popescu: i agree with butt plugs
jcpham: seems overstock would have gold butt plus
pankkake: yes!
kakobrekla: taht not such bad idea
jcpham: that seems like anoverstock'd item
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02889526 = 0.1445 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;google stretcher anal plug solid gold
gribble: King's Body Jewelry, 18 gauge - 3 inch plugs, eyelets, organic ...: <http://www.kingsbodyjewelry.com/1and14inch32mm.aspx>; Body piercing materials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_piercing_materials>; Stretching (body piercing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretching_(body_piercing)>
pankkake: by the way, the rosebud butt plug is a proud French invention
nubbins`: that's a different type of stretching
kakobrekla: golden buttplug - its an ivnestment which you can amortize
mircea_popescu: pankkake whoddunit ?
nubbins`: duchamp ;p
mircea_popescu: "ONE PAIR of 316L Stainless Steel earlets that are internally threaded. These tunnels have a screw on back piece so that you can insert them without having to force a double flared plugs in your piercing. This makes it much easier for people that have a hard time fitting double flared plugs in, or also those that just have a freshly stretched piercing and want a plug that is easy to insert."
mircea_popescu: what is it with people
pankkake: http://www.rosebuds.net/ but the website used to be much less "professional"
ozbot: Rosebuds : Plus qu'un sextoy, le rosebud est un bijou intime
pankkake: Julian Snelling
mircea_popescu: bijou intime lol
pankkake: http://www.rosebuds.net/fr/galerie.aspx is a remnant of the old website
ozbot: Rosebuds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02898999 = 0.2899 BTC [+]
Vexual: its the depression and she srying becuase she can't afford a new hat
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: both of my earlobe piercings were stretched out to 18mm at one point
nubbins`: tiny again now tho
Vexual: is your slit pierced?
nubbins`: my slit!
nubbins`: i don't wear jewelry in anything now
mircea_popescu: nubbins` o wait, these are for ears
mircea_popescu: not for butthole.
pankkake: I still have a weird bump due to my industrial piercing :(
nubbins`: steel-reinforced anus, what must you think of people!
Vexual: dont you guys ahve tailors?
nubbins`: sure, tony the tailor will add a zipper to anything
nubbins`: trang garments too
Vexual: lol
nubbins`: altho they mostly do salvation army uniforms
nubbins`: fun fact, i used to wear a steel retainer in my septum but accidentally swallowed it while eating pussy
Vexual: ยฃbc
nubbins`: spent several seconds trying to decide how to tell a loved one that a chunk of something just fell out of their pussy
nubbins`: before i realized what had happened
mircea_popescu: wow srsly ?
nubbins`: felt it go down
mircea_popescu: "what the fuck have you been sticking up there!!1"
mircea_popescu: "i just swallowed a can"
nubbins`: although much smaller, the hole is still there. great party trick
Vexual: if you ask your tailor to put a button hole somewhere strange, he will tell you to come bacj when you are sober
mircea_popescu: my tailor would just be thankful i didn't want the butthole put on her.
Vexual: u have a woman?
mircea_popescu: aren't they all ?
Vexual: i talk to a man, i don't kno who sews it
mircea_popescu: i don't think i've ever seen not-a-woman tailor
mircea_popescu: it's like das or criminal pathologists. they're all womenz.
Vexual: perhaps i only talk to salesmen
punkman1: male tailors are like a british thing
nubbins`: tony the tailor!
mircea_popescu: (and strangely, nobody holds conferences about how theres no men in criminal pathology, either.
mircea_popescu: including the Criminal Pathology Today trade rag)
nubbins`: this reminds me that i need a pair of pants altered
Vexual: get it right, im not wearing underwear
Vexual: thats tantamount to sexual assualt if female tailor
mircea_popescu: no it's not
nubbins`: i generally don't wear the garment that requires altering when visiting the tailor
Vexual: well one probaby shoundt pop into see the tailor on freeballin days either way
nubbins`: one probably shouldn't get ball sweat all over one's pants
mircea_popescu: nubbins` "the very pants i was about to return!!1"
nubbins`: "sir, these pants smell of duck butter"
nubbins`: i don't need to be authed to ;;ud, do i?
nubbins`: ;;ud duck butter
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=duck%20butter | The combination of sweat from the ballsac and anus that creates a buttery film on the grundle and butthole. occuring usually from an unwashed scrot...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: duck butter
Vexual: try these for sixe
Vexual: no
Vexual: why not
Vexual: coz im the fucking xustomer
nubbins`: i think i know what a grundle is, although it's a new word for me
nubbins`: ;;ud grundle
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=grundle | The prime piece of real estate located conveniently between Scrotumburg and Anusville.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: grundle
Vexual: drop the crotch a few inches
Vexual: di eet!
nubbins`: "I hit the flush button and I feel the air from the VCHT (vacuum, collection, and holding tank) system pass over my grundle. That one full second of cool air down below is one of the few perks of the day and of the job."
Vexual: how often do newly tatood people tell their artist it looks shit?
mircea_popescu: 50% of the tme ?
Vexual: they think it, and never say it, ever
nubbins`: i have a friend with a misspelled tattoo
nubbins`: your instead of you're
pankkake: oh god
Vexual: i bet she paid the full asking price too
NineBitByte: at least you can probably fix it (squeeze in 're somewhere)
nubbins`: nah, there was no room for fixing it
nubbins`: the script was really cramped
pankkake: that's a reason for suicide
nubbins`: he got it at the ripe old age of 14
mircea_popescu: a, it's a he
nubbins`: from the sort of shop that tattoos 14 year olds
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what his skin says.
mircea_popescu: if it were a woman it'd have been a problem
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: that's not the problem as I see it. coping mechanism as children become their de facto way of being "MEN"(careers, dads, husbands, tax-paying, nationalists, etc)... It happens so early nobody knows truly why they do anything.
nubbins`: well, he doesn't, is the thing
nubbins`: he's perfectly fine with it
nubbins`: deadweasel, that's the problem with becoming a dad/husband too early
nubbins`: the fuck does a 20 year old know about life?
Vexual: if you dont like it, we can shoot you with a laser and burn it off
deadweasel: i agree nubbins`
nubbins`: what wisdom can he possibly impart upon his offspring?
mircea_popescu: deadweasel "nobody"
nubbins`: aside from "don't follow in my footsteps"
deadweasel: even if he had it, does he have a way of imparting it? not if he ascribes to his own conditioning.
nubbins`: which the kid could figure out on his own, over time
mircea_popescu: right-o. so ideally 14 to 16 yo womens marry 30 to 50 yo men ?
nubbins`: Vexual: then you have a lovely scar in the shape of a misspelled word
mircea_popescu: yet another reason why teh arab world will buttrape the us.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, if you get married before 30 you're cracked
mircea_popescu: they're doing exactly this.
deadweasel: nubbins`: +1
mircea_popescu: nubbins` as a woman ?!
Vexual: milky
nubbins`: as a man
nubbins`: can't speak to the female experience
deadweasel: then the whole comedy restarts, with no gain in knowledge/wisdom etc... used to be passed down. now internet.
mircea_popescu: no gain ? ample loss.
mircea_popescu: people have somehow forgotten - over a generation - that if you can't afford disposable diapers
mircea_popescu: YOU CAN STILL USE THE OLD STYLE
ozbot: eminem - Kill you with lyrics - YouTube
nubbins`: i was raised on cloth diapers
deadweasel: i'm wearing one right now
deadweasel: jokes
Vexual: nice double ^
nubbins`: this is symptomatic of a wider "old is bad, new is good" belief
deadweasel: it's insane
mircea_popescu: nubbins` which is fine, but then... cabby i know, can barely make his car payments, made 100 yest
mircea_popescu: spent 70 on pampers.
mircea_popescu: woman doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: im like what the fuck is wrong with you you retarded boi!
Vexual: put it in a home
nubbins`: it's only in the past couple generations, AFAICT, that this severing of traditions/knowledge-sharing has really ramped up
mircea_popescu: missy precious can wash the diapers. by hand. in cold water. in the front of the house, naked.
mircea_popescu: so all the neighbours can see how poor and abject she is.
mircea_popescu: he'll have a much better life after a week or two of this.
Vexual: do photograph that with nice lighting
nubbins`: the book "ishmael" covers this topic at length
deadweasel: aw yes! book helped me realize I wasn't insane at a young age
mircea_popescu: omfg these book things keep stealing my banal ideas before i even say them
deadweasel: it was everyone else
nubbins`: heheh
mircea_popescu: BURN ALL THE BOOKS
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: daniel quinn, worth a read
mircea_popescu: IN ORDER TO BETTER PRESERVE TRADITION, BURN ALL THE BOOKS!
kakobrekla: i hate tradition.
mircea_popescu: ;;google fiddler on the roof, "tradition, tradition" scene
gribble: Fiddler on the roof - Tradition ( with subtitles ) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw>; Opening Title(Instrumental half of Tradition)- Fiddler on the Roof film ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD_hAujgt0A>; Fiddler On The Roof -- (Movie Clip) Open, Tradition: <http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/291506/Fiddler-On-The-Roof-Movie-Clip-Open-Tradition.html>
mircea_popescu: whoa, google works if you talk to it as if it were a human being.
Vexual: then it serves you ads
Vexual: i search for goa and tomato so much i get ads about eggs
nubbins`: "serves" isn't the right word
Vexual: *goat
deadweasel: ;;google goat eating a tomatoe in his lambo
deadweasel: tomato*
Vexual: nubs how to clean a fowl? one of my pullets is rooster and wakes me too earyl
nubbins`: THE PAPA *chop chop*
deadweasel: slit zee throat, bleed it, pluck, wash, cook.
deadweasel: nom nom nom
Vexual: thought so
nubbins`: who the fuck taught those women to knead dough?
nubbins`: it's not a stepchild, you don't just punch it into submission
deadweasel: All american women NEED Dough$
Vexual: im like that romainian girl that bakes bread for the first time and gets it so right that it should be illegal
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deadweasel: lol, nubbins`
nubbins`: Vexual, i know a guy in st pierre who worked at a chicken factory
nubbins`: he said step 1 was to grab a chicken
nubbins`: and the rest just followed
deadweasel: i like those instructions better
deadweasel: grab chicken, progress to food.
Vexual: i could cook it like kangaroo tail
nubbins`: i have to say that i've come very close to mastering the art of sourdough bread
Vexual: guts in, burn on charcoal until untasty bits are gone
Vexual: got a good rise happening?
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: took me almost a year to figure it out
Vexual: did your culture just get better?
nubbins`: the flavors generally do get better over time, but it's actually the method that i changed
nubbins`: now i pre-invigorate by mixing the starter, sugar, and warm water
nubbins`: let that sit for 30 minutes in a warm place, and THEN add flour+salt
Vexual: do tell, i always get flat sourdough, and my fridge has all kinds of shit gowing in it
nubbins`: idea is that the yeast cells are very active by the time the flour is added
Vexual: nod
nubbins`: and all dispersed through the water, which gives an even distribution
nubbins`: throughout the dough
nubbins`: with minimal kneading necessary
Vexual: dont knead too much and cook hot?
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nubbins`: i bake at 425 for 15 minutes
nubbins`: from what i understand, this is both fast and cool
Vexual: ever tried damper?
nubbins`: i think a lot of it depends on the specific set of yeasts and bacterias that your starter ends up consisting of
nubbins`: damper, hmm, no
Vexual: its australian bush bread, doughy and eaten with butter
nubbins`: wow, so it's actually covered in ash?
Vexual: yah real shit is
nubbins`: interesting
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> it's not a stepchild, you don't just punch it into submission <<< ahaha
Vexual: ands its as good as currency, it trades for tobacco and shit
mircea_popescu: they're actors.
nubbins`: "traditional" bread here is hard tack
nubbins`: must be boiled before consuming unless you have teeth of steel
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: good thing, because they can't bake for shit
nubbins`: oh, i was on the news last night
mircea_popescu: baking ?!
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: sharing my thoughts on the resignation of our premier
mircea_popescu: hey, you look lik ea person and everything
nubbins`: yeah, they caught my good side
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the "x has been on the news" concentration is here as opposed to internet average
Vexual: wheres the beard?
mircea_popescu: i mean kako is prolly on the news weekly as the only somalian with an internet connection...
nubbins`: vexual, shaved it for a court appearance some months ago
mircea_popescu: nubbins` they have that us law that bearded people are to be sent to jail there too ?!
pankkake: "All things considered, I'd say we did a pretty good job of preserving purchasing power in the rise from $100 to $1000 BTC. During that time we went from about 0.032/share to 0.0034/share."
mircea_popescu: bnwajaja
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: civil case, not criminal ;)
ozbot: THE BEARDS - If Your Dad Doesn't Have a Beard, You've Got Two Mums (Official Film Clip) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: who is that pankkake ?
kakobrekla: i bet.
nubbins`: Vexual: great video
Vexual: :)
pankkake: kakobrekla: too soon for neo
pankkake: it's not hard to guess
kakobrekla: oh i missed? dayum
mircea_popescu: pretty good job of "preserving buying power" ?!
mircea_popescu: this is a redefinition of an inexistent problem, it's like "we did a pretty good job of not gruesomely murdering our customers"
mircea_popescu: "they only get food poisoning like half the time, tops, and it's rarely fatal"
kakobrekla: who is it then?
mircea_popescu: "a woman and her daughter had been eating here for even like two weeks each day. well... 10 days"
kakobrekla: that thing lives?
nubbins`: "lives"
nubbins`: actually, that civil case is still dragging out
nubbins`: was filing papers yesterday
nubbins`: deadbeats, take heed: i will be made whole!
ozbot: Cheech And Chong- Trippin in court - YouTube
Vexual: thats arlo guthrie on the intro
assbot: 123!
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.0009049 = 0.9049 BTC [+]
Vexual: ever seen folk uke?
Vexual: arlo and willies daughters have a band
Duffer1: "We have about 5 bitcoins left sitting in a wallet which I will probably use to buy the new butterfly labs hardware" < เฒ _เฒ 
Vexual: alt 253
nubbins`: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
nubbins`: duffer
nubbins`: my sides
nubbins`: "we have about one teaspoon of peanut butter left which i will probably inject into my penis"
nubbins`: ^ a member of the donner party
nubbins`: aaaaah i'm dying here
Duffer1: i don't even...
Vexual: me too, i spent my last 5 on bfl
nubbins`: "what should we do with our last 5btc?" " i know! let's turn it into 2btc!"
nubbins`: handshakes and back-pats
ozbot: Melanie Safka - Look What They've Done To My Song Ma - YouTube
nubbins`: ;;bc,xay
gribble: Error: "bc,xay" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1241.700000000000 USD = 1.35378677613 BTC
mircea_popescu: lawl usagi
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> "what should we do with our last 5btc?" " i know! let's turn it into 2btc!" <<< gotta preserve that lol power parity...
nubbins`: the pirate bay always has interesting banner ads
Vexual: such canadian
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: the other 3btc was directly converted to lels
Duffer1: i can't stop staring
nubbins`: Vexual: the implication is that the girl needs to use a website to find people to fuck
mircea_popescu: me @piratebay "hey, give me your adspace" piratebay @me "if you would like to advertise pls talk to whatever random dorks we are using to mismanage our only source of revenue"
mircea_popescu: me @piratebay "no, you don't understand. i don't talk to dorks. smarten up"
mircea_popescu: this was a month or so ago. apparently it takes them longer than a month to figure the money angle out.
mircea_popescu: kids today.
nubbins`: who's even running tpb now?
nubbins`: that bearded fella is still in jail
ozbot: Lee Perry - Super Ape - YouTube
mircea_popescu: mwanwhile "Dow industrials down 200 as stocksย’ slide steepens" and "jpm dimon thinks he has something to say on bitcoin".
Vexual: wheres the gold and why no mill the oak?
mircea_popescu: ppl be having intellectual retardation issues.
nubbins`: dimon, lel
nubbins`: he's like those anti-railroad people who claimed that the human body wasn't designed to handle such speeds
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> ppl be having intellectual retardation issues. <<
Vexual: bash it
nubbins`: "your body will explode! take a horse and carriage, both of which i incidentally sell/rent!"
nubbins`: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 919.01
Vexual: stick with island
rattaTATpow: CNN top story: "Should pregnant woman stay on respirator? Husband says she is 'empty shell' "
rattaTATpow: well is she pregnant or empty?
Vexual: then shes not pregnant
rattaTATpow: sounds like the start of a good child horror movie
rattaTATpow: kid comes out a zombified serial killer
Vexual: nah, very autistic with mental powers
rattaTATpow: dad wants to bury her
nubbins`: Should premature baby be kept alive in incubator? Husband says it is 'empty plastic box'
Vexual: yeah i dont know how much say hubby has when its a new child
nubbins`: Should pregnant woman stay on respirator? Husband says 'I never wanted the fuckin thing'
nubbins`: Should pregnant woman stay on respirator? Husband says 'This will severely limit my ability to get new pussy'
rattaTATpow: "Why brain dead means really dead" sub headline
rattaTATpow: sounds like a premise for a mp article
Vexual: sounds lie a premise for an md article
nubbins`: The family's attorneys more recently said that Marlise's fetus "is distinctly abnormal," suffering from hydrocephalus and "deformed to the extent that the gender cannot be determined."
nubbins`: ah, well then
nubbins`: good thing they waited til halfway through the article to drop that
nubbins`: bbl, installing shelves
ozbot: Amy Winehouse Audition - YouTube
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mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> good thing they waited til halfway through the article to drop that << see, this is why it doesn't sound like a mp article.
Vexual: straight ragin from the get go huh mp?
mircea_popescu: well certainly not manufactured "here's some banal shit let me keep quiet about salient points maybe you read through"
Vexual: nah more like cop this
Vexual: wrong hole? bad lcuk
Vexual: etymology and shit
Duffer1: i heard cement may be bad for electronics, but i'm skeptical
Vexual: its caustic
Vexual: tswhy onw tins plugs
Vexual: did you just compare the sg of concrete to seawater?
deadweasel: oh, interesting:
ozbot: Why sugar helped remove Victoria Line concrete flood - Telegraph
Vexual: sugar retards setting
Vexual: piss speeds it up but its hardly ever required
deadweasel: sugar retards people too.
Vexual: ug fucking paleo bullshit
deadweasel: i'd like to pee on my coworkers, see if it speeds them up, so I don't have to test 3 weeks work of code in 3 days.
deadweasel: s/work/worth
Vexual: so unscience
deadweasel: Vexual, if you lyme disease, and eat sugar, you're gonna have a bad time.
deadweasel: source: science
Vexual: u have lyme disease?
deadweasel: unfuckingfortunately
deadweasel: i'm not quite sure if it's chronic yet
deadweasel: 2 months ABX knocked it out,but there is no way to know if it's for good
deadweasel: fucking cyst form of lyme is the body ninja, no drug can really find it all.
Vexual: tried jesus heb?
pankkake: if you are human and eat sugar you're gonna have a bad time
deadweasel: looking into bacteriophage from Tblisi
deadweasel: praying? no.
Vexual: seriously, have you friend moroccan kif?
deadweasel: not moroccan, it's grown in my spare room.
ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction b94eaf3c16ad7dd35ea3b9e11a70cf9172adf4898c9b4db90761ef4ba327e777
mircea_popescu: Estimated BTC Transacted0.00144397 BTC
mircea_popescu: right on.
Vexual: so block
pankkake: fuck blockchain.info showing me dollars by default
Vexual: just click the green box, didn't you read the bible
mircea_popescu: idiots using dollars should have to doi an extra click.
pankkake: yeah, but now I have to click it every time
mircea_popescu: not the fucking other way around
Vexual: if blockchain.info break, how mych other stuuf breaks?
NineBitByte: agreed.
NineBitByte: uh, everything using blockchain.info's API and their wallet site/apps
NineBitByte: blockchain.info =/= bitcoin's blockchain
pankkake: especially since blockchain.info has been behind a few times already
mircea_popescu: well, bitbet doesn't.
mircea_popescu: so... "everything [that doesn't matter]"
kakobrekla: use blockr.io
kakobrekla: but if you wouldnt have adblock enabled on bitbet you would already know that.
Vexual: you learn soemthing new everyday
pankkake: blockr.io sucks
Vexual: yeah imma drink two vodkas and forget that
kakobrekla: your vacuum cleaner sucks
pankkake: lol now after litecoin they had "digitalcoin"
kakobrekla: its their revenue model
pankkake: add*
pankkake: my vacuum cleaner isn't sucking as well as it used to :(
kakobrekla: altchainers pay to get added here
pankkake: hahaha
pankkake: smart
deadweasel: pankkake: remove your cock from the intake. worked for me.
Vexual: having trouble breathing deadweasel?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00008505 = 0.6804 BTC [-]
deadweasel: yes, but I have oxygen max on my genitals now, much better.
Vexual: if your membrum is bubbling, it might be gonorreah
deadweasel: it was when I was 17, dirty slag.
deadweasel: course your best friend's brothers fuck buddy was probably a poor choice.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00008505 = 0.1701 BTC [-]
deadweasel: wait no, it was the clap
deadweasel: it burned
deadweasel: so burning
deadweasel: much discharge << no you can't unread that.
deadweasel: no i can't unsend it, either.
Vexual: nnone gives a fuck if you had gonorreah
deadweasel: i realize too late, most things.
deadweasel: deal with it
deadweasel: ,/ignore is good
jcpham: shitty baby vagina
jcpham: no, that doesn't sound like fun at all, does it?
Vexual: if doctor greg mulhausen had gonorreah hed reduce his management fee by half
Vexual: he is very professional like that
Vexual: noot very wall street tho, go figure
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pankkake: how can you be wall street?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00048 = 0.24 BTC [+]
cads: hey mircea_popescu, I think one of your wishes is coming true: https://proofmarket.org/problem
Vexual: just strutting, and droppying the lingo
cads: mircea_popescu: it's a bounty market for mathematical proofs as formalized in either the coq or agda computer proof systems.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.00048 = 0.12 BTC [+]
Vexual: and yuo complain when bitcoin tools dont match expectations, then yuo do it again
mircea_popescu: cads i think asciilifeform was wishing a similar thing
nubbins`: Vexual, my last name is a homonym of "kif"
nubbins`: all of the hostel owners i met in morocco found this endlessly entertaining
Vexual: nubbin bubble?
nubbins`: "last name?" "keefe" "ah, should i call police?"
nubbins`: "plz no"
Vexual: ah cool
nubbins`: then canada customs has the audacity to search me upon return
nubbins`: as if i'd go to another country to buy cannabis and then bring it back to canada
nubbins`: that's like leaving russia to smuggle home vodka
Vexual: thats why i carry my pasport in my rectum, sves time
nubbins`: TBF i saw the search coming as soon as i stared talking to the agent
nubbins`: "so where are you coming from?"
nubbins`: "london"
nubbins`: "how long were you there?"
nubbins`: "just a day. i was in morocco for a week before that, and before THAT, i was in london for about 12 hours"
Vexual: we got rfid passports now, so i dont even need to take it out
nubbins`: "just so i get this straight..."
Vexual: heathrow marakesh heathrow
Vexual: i collect spams
nubbins`: technically i flew from Luton to Marrakesh
Vexual: *stamps
Vexual: ah pov airways
kakobrekla: blow stamps?
nubbins`: but i did go canada-uk via heathrow
kakobrekla: i collect those too.
nubbins`: anyway, marrakesh has passable hash
deadweasel: pass it to me
nubbins`: it's pretty heavy on the heat tho
Vexual: varanasi is stae of the art
nubbins`: hard to walk 10 feet without someone whispering "hashish" to you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 600 @ 0.00090495 = 0.543 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1900 @ 0.00008749 = 0.1662 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: any of you been to berlin?
kakobrekla: some years ago
nubbins`: planning to visit this summer
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1200 @ 0.0016745 = 2.0094 BTC [-]
Vexual: hand rubbed from tall slender plnts at 4000 mteres
Vexual: buy a nice chillum and get a big lungful first time you try
nubbins`: you assumed that i don't own a nice chillum? ;(
kakobrekla: id stop by room77 if id go.
nubbins`: "warm beer, cold women and fast food made slow"?
Vexual: i asumed you're not taking it on the jumbo
kakobrekla: gotta love their site :)
Vexual: if you buy a beer in india they put it under the table
Vexual: but they will ahnd you a chillum
nubbins`: kako, i'm enjoying it now
Vexual: and whisky dens ar efun
Vexual: strange men come and skull a half while i slowly sip two full bottles
Vexual: they bring e food
Vexual: vegetarians bringing every meat they can find to sole the puzzle
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Vexual: they serve the mathanol and i never ask of the lavatory
Vexual: tolah?
Vexual: yes please
Vexual: hoi
NGB_: hi all
Vexual: hey kgb
NGB_: http://tip4commit.com donate for your preffered pen source projects
nubbins`: will not visit
Vexual: hey ngb, i was teling a sorty about how i gave half of mubai disentry
mircea_popescu: redditards heard of irc, think it's reddit.
Vexual: cant sell 10 tons of teak on reddit
jurov: iirc there was a foyer channel
jurov: but dounni if it ever work as intended
jurov: *dunno
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 928.0, Best ask: 928.9198, Bid-ask spread: 0.91980, Last trade: 929.0, 24 hour volume: 5283.89219216, 24 hour low: 903.4, 24 hour high: 955.0, 24 hour vwap: 922.64796
assbot: 123!
jurov: sooo, my x.eur shorting play ops are almost concluded, it can go up now
Apocalyptic: Dimon gets rewarded for his btc non-sense
Apocalyptic: J.P. Morgan to Raise Dimon's Pay to $20 Million
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00099944 = 5.5469 BTC [+]
nubbins`: $20 million
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic o looky, he makes in a year almost what i made a month in 2013.
mircea_popescu: congrats to the fiats!
nubbins`: offer him a job
nubbins`: he obviously doesn't mind degrading himself for money
mircea_popescu: what am i going to do with a decrepit old man with no skills ?
Vexual: dashcam
Apocalyptic: Hearn & Dimon hot webcam : tonight's special
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, dunno, use him as a coffee table
ozbot: [CLOSED] Friedcat t-shirt group buy #3
nubbins`: can someone explain to me what that image means?
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only people who'd watch that would be redditors linking the "bitbet r scam" thread
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rattaTATpow: i know it
rattaTATpow: richard sherman of the seahawks
rattaTATpow: is #25
rattaTATpow: he's the smart black guy actin not smart
ozbot: These Angel Investors Want to Make Bitcoin 'Sexy' for Average People | Entrepreneur.com
Apocalyptic: In the meeting, which took place in the offices of Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, one member of Mr. Bharara's team asked why certain people within J.P. Morgan's were still working at the bank despite failures to adequately investigate suspicions about Mr. Madoff.
Apocalyptic: Mr. Dimon, according to these people, said the bank removes people for incompetence but noted that wasn't the case here. "If you want me to fire them," he added, "give me their names and I will fire them."
rattaTATpow: after shutting down the 49ers
nubbins`: i don't follow hand-egg, this is all lost on me
rattaTATpow: i dont either
Vexual: nubbins' looks like a king in scribblenaughts :)
rattaTATpow: i happened to watch 5min of the gam
rattaTATpow: the guys is pretty cool actually
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nubbins`: Vexual, that's lifted from a rejected Eulora splash screen :P
rattaTATpow: sherman "A lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of a sheep."
pankkake: lol hand-egg
kakobrekla: you cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship
kakobrekla: basically same thing as psi laju karavani prolaze
nubbins`: not really sure why it didn't get picked.
ozbot: Richard Stallman Freaks Out and Has a Meltdown - YouTube
nubbins`: what a strange man
pankkake: no that's the same one
nubbins`: yeah that's from 2012 i think
nubbins`: just came across it agin
nubbins`: *again
nubbins`: i attended a talk by Rolf Heuer from CERN a while back, was slightly disappointed to not see him freak out
nubbins`: i guess the beard just started my wishful thinking
pankkake: http://youtu.be/9sJUDx7iEJw here's a better side of RMS
ozbot: Richard Stallman Free software Song - YouTube
nubbins`: replace the B with a FSF logo and that's essentially him
nubbins`: a fat bearded wild-man slapping a laptop and chanting "join us" to a bunch of ecuadorians
nubbins`: i don't even
simlay: I saw rms at uc berkeley a couple months back. He didn't wear shoes throughout the whole talk.
ozbot: Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube
mircea_popescu: ew jesus
mircea_popescu: this entire fucking "presentation" bullshit has been the worst idea ever.
mircea_popescu: engineers do not belong outside of the basement. let people do what they're good at ffs.
nubbins`: ^ with rare exceptions, this is true
nubbins`: it's truly a rare person who is both a leader in their field and able to communicate with the public at their level
mircea_popescu: if you plot rms' output and his public speaking, the results are pretty sad.
rattaTATpow: its why etherium cant work too
mircea_popescu: the more speaking he does the less he's being useful.
rattaTATpow: the dude is a tinkerer, he'll never follow through
simlay: rattaTATpow: The awkward founder kid?
rattaTATpow: tinkerers are not CEOs or bosses or salesman
rattaTATpow: vitalik
simlay: Yeah
rattaTATpow: from bitcoin magazine
rattaTATpow: 4mos ago he wanted to do quantum mining
nubbins`: QUANTUM MINING
simlay: lol.
nubbins`: JURISPRUDENT WAFFLE MAKING
nubbins`: he wanted to do [random word] [random bitcoin term]
ozbot: Tom Marshall sworn in as 11th premier - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
pankkake: time spent communicating about a project is usually inversely correlated to the advancement of the project
nubbins`: see the guy on the right-hand side of the picture?
Apocalyptic: <nubbins`> QUANTUM MINING // wtf am I reading
nubbins`: he had to apologize to canada on behalf of scout leaders who molested kids a while back
Apocalyptic: who's that vitalik ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic there was some nut a few months ago, truely a thing to behold. he was going to "emulate" qc on plain old computers.
nubbins`: y'know, we'll just emulate non-determinism on these deterministic machines
mircea_popescu: he had pestered a number of respectable academia people, collected all the bits of their responses that weren't "you are a fucking retard kill yourself"
pankkake: well, he wanted *investments* more than actually succeeding I think
nubbins`: and i'll just keep saying things that make sense
mircea_popescu: and was bothering people around btc. some of them didn't immediately go "you are a fucking retard kill yourself"
simlay: He's the kid from bitocin magazine and founde/or something of ethereum.
pankkake: he kept PMing me after I told him I was poor
mircea_popescu: pankkake what was the guy's nick ? i forget
pankkake: jorashโ€ฆ I still have the window open :o
mircea_popescu: (this is unrelated to vitalik buterin, who's just an enthusiastic kid that's been exploited for a while by the bitcoin magazine assholes and is now looking for a new rapist)
Apocalyptic: he enjoys being raped ?
mircea_popescu: apparently.
nubbins`: i should start a bitcoin conspiracy rag
Apocalyptic: funny creature he is
nubbins`: start accepting articles about how the man is keeping quantum mining hush-hush
nubbins`: maybe a "paranoiac of the week" on the last page
mircea_popescu: something like popular bitcoinics
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: where you debunk in detail idiotic notions in the space
nubbins`: vertical-takeoff mining rigs
nubbins`: land on a tabletop!
ozbot: 1815 jorash> So I'm with a Toronto company, founded in 2009 called noospheer. - Pastebin.com
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, this would actually be a fun project
mircea_popescu: so do it.
mircea_popescu: not like you'll run out of material too soon.
mircea_popescu: just make sure you do a thorough ass job on each article.
mircea_popescu: this is the sort of thing where you can post even monthly, just as long as each post is worshippable.
jcpham: sounds like perfect material for fuckbitcoin.com
nubbins`: web is dead, i'd be printing on thinly-sliced trees
pankkake: nubbins`: there is #bitcoin-conspiracy but nothing ever get said
jcpham: nubbins what's your email address we'll make you an editor
jcpham: you can type away
nubbins`: jon@pinkeyeprints.com, natch
nubbins`: oh wait, why did i just do that
nubbins`: fuck
mircea_popescu: the redcup dorkspiracy.
nubbins`: the cups are stealing our women
nubbins`: and our dudebros, i guess
nubbins`: altho the cups can have those
mircea_popescu: check out the very comfortable token female / token black person
mircea_popescu: she's like... "i hope they're too retarded to notice me natch"
nubbins`: you can tell she's comfortable because of the way she's holding her arms
mircea_popescu: and her thighs
jcpham: see email
nubbins`: the one dudebro looks like he's wearing a suede skirt
jcpham: nubbins` feel free to be as libelous as you'd like my friend
nubbins`: "Rapeghost's friendly guide to #Bitcoin-OTC"
TATontehroad: joradh is jordan ash who did indeed partnerwith vitalik on the quantum mining thing
nubbins`: i guess that answers the question of what "rg" stands for
jcpham: mmmhmmm
TATontehroad: they pitched it at btc conference in Amsterdam
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah, rg = rapegost. i guess meanwhile this became a mystery of times past
kakobrekla: he sez its RAP e-ghost
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jcpham: ditched that first otc identity
nubbins`: that guy tried to skeet me out of some money
jcpham: used magick and conjured a new one
nubbins`: i designed a logo for him, and after delivering final proofs, he said "lel i don't like it, didn't want to hurt your feelings... you can keep the deposit tho"
TATontehroad: I was there to pass on the yer-retarded msg tho
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mircea_popescu: TATontehroad yeah but i doubt they picked that up.
TATontehroad: he was prettybutthurt the whole day
TATontehroad: Since I did so with the crowd listening
pankkake: another gift from my hard drive http://imgur.com/a/Qmz6x#0
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nubbins`: public humiliation does indeed lead to butthurt
TATontehroad: it was during lunch so at least it was a smaller crowd...
TATontehroad: they weren't allowed to pitch duringnormal ceremonies
nubbins`: fuuuuu
nubbins`: "Several local residents told the media Thursday there were no sprinklers in the portion of the building that was destroyed"
nubbins`: someone buy that man some sunblock
nubbins`: SHITCOIN magazine has a nice ring
nubbins`: could focus on alts
nubbins`: "My husband spent our inheritance on doge so i cut off his dick" etc
nubbins`: "Pumping and dumping for fun and profit"
nubbins`: "Memecoin: a plug-and-play alt that YOU can pre-mine!"
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mircea_popescu: "ย“I think there will be a global currency that will take on [J.P. Morgan CEO] Jamie Dimon and the other banks and other currencies."
ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Hey Dimon : #bitcoin wishes ...
mircea_popescu: stuff happens fast these days
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mircea_popescu: so it'd seem bitcointalk has a xss vuln in the trust rating system, because mpoe-pr just managed to spam trust three times by simply refreshing the page.
mircea_popescu: if anyone feels like forging some js POST fields and checking it...
kakobrekla: thats not xss
kakobrekla: it just doenst refresh the page
kakobrekla: and reposts same stuff
kakobrekla: i have done so myself
mircea_popescu: not necessarily, no. but imo likely
nubbins`: mp, details?
kakobrekla: put in <script>alert('bleh');</script> and see what happens
kakobrekla: but that has nothing to do with not refreshing the page after posting
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, more like, see what you're POST ing, load it in a page with a js autopost when someone loads the page
mircea_popescu: and see what happens when you visit that page logged into btctalk
Apocalyptic: yeah that's CSRF
nubbins`: what the fuck is it with bitcoin and CSRF?
Apocalyptic: bitcoin-24 had that flaw too btw
nubbins`: every single play exchange had CSRF vulnerabilities
kakobrekla: but you can js autopost anything
Apocalyptic: you could withdraw btc just with a request...
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic yeah i guess. gotta polish up on my web terminology
nubbins`: EVERY SINGLE ONE
kakobrekla: its not specific to rating system
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla srsly ? i can make you post stuff if you visit my page logged in ?!
nubbins`: ^ yes
kakobrekla: most probably yes
mircea_popescu: nm, false alarm, it's working as intended x.x
kakobrekla: its broken in a sense its repositng same stuff
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day
mircea_popescu: the king is dead, long live the king
jayk: oh dear
Apocalyptic: 14Bn, that's some serious hashrate
nubbins`: PoC, someone else can try it out
nubbins`: you can also hide the buttons and textboxes for stealth
Apocalyptic: nubbins`, seriously you need jquery to submit a form ?
nubbins`: nah just too lazy to type out document.selectelementdfgdsfgfger blah blah
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nubbins`: http://dpaste.com/1567894/ <--triggers "preview" instead of "post", honestly can't be fucked to figure out why
ozbot: dpaste: #1567894
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]
benkay: why do you need a input telling you what kind of request you're getting?
benkay: s/you/btctalk
benkay: nevermind. it's btctalk.
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kakobrekla: probably a <i>security</i> measure
Apocalyptic: nubbins`, so you confirm the CSRF is working for posting new topics ?
nubbins`: nah, it triggers the Preview button instead of the Post button
nubbins`: regardless, yes, you can get logged-in users to submit forms just by luring them to a website
kakobrekla: funny why it goes to preview
nubbins`: yeah, i can't figure that one out
nubbins`: probably trivial but it's been a while since i've done this stuff
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what if you chain a post after ?
mircea_popescu: so it goes to preview then it posts
nubbins`: once the preview appears, you've lost the ability to inject
nubbins`: let me think on this for a bit
kakobrekla: the problem might be the request uri
kakobrekla: action post2 ?
nubbins`: yeah, shrug. i think post2 is specifically for the preview page
Apocalyptic: nubbins`, just start wireshark so you can compare the requests and see what you're missing
nubbins`: you know, you could potentially reset people's passwords like this
kakobrekla: what i mean is post != request
kakobrekla: you are requesting action post 2 while posting the form
kakobrekla: as far as i can see
kakobrekla: anyway, brb
nubbins`: nah requested action post
mircea_popescu: try action=post3
nubbins`: action=post2 spoils the request
nubbins`: post3 bumps you to /index.php
mircea_popescu: action=preview ? :D
pankkake: "75% out of almost 200 people voted the money should be returned.. Scam job wrote all over it, It's time to give negative rating to MPOE-PR"
pankkake: the whole thing is depressing
Apocalyptic: pankkake, but they voted !
mircea_popescu: whoa, who knew!
Apocalyptic: you can't oppose people's will like this
mircea_popescu: the mem dood disappeared, to be replaced by a new muppet
pankkake: I don't think there is anything worse than anynomous voting
mircea_popescu: "Graded by focus groups and BCP research"
mircea_popescu: dude srsly, ResearchCoin
mircea_popescu: it has value merely by saying "research"
pankkake: hmmโ€ฆ how could I create a DemocraticCoinโ€ฆ
mircea_popescu: yeah or LiberalCoin
mircea_popescu: AnimalRightsCoin
mircea_popescu: WomenInTechCoin
mircea_popescu: NoCarbonCoin
Apocalyptic: GlobalWarmingCoin
mircea_popescu: GloballyCoolCoin
pankkake: nah, it should have a specific stupid feature
nubbins`: i give up, may try to poke at it some more later
simlay: Has someone written a crypto coin name generator yet?
pankkake: GlobalWarmingCoin now that would work!
mircea_popescu: simlay pankkake actually wrote an altcoin generator outright
nubbins`: FWIW here's the similar vulnerability i disclosed to havelock last summer:
ozbot: dpaste: #1567929
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is it fixed ?
pankkake: mircea_popescu: no I didn't
mircea_popescu: o that page wasnt yours ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: the havelock one? yeah, they patched it up right away
pankkake: it's not mineโ€ฆ neither the much profit
nubbins`: nah that was all hand-crafted by yours truly
simlay: mircea_popescu: coingen.io
pankkake: I thought of doing it, but the doing the "windows binaries" thing annoyed me
mircea_popescu: simlay sounds right. i thought it was frenchie's
nubbins`: i sometimes wonder how much money got stolen form havelock, btc-e, btctctctct, etc via these CSRF bugs
mircea_popescu: over nine billion
pankkake: also the guy isn't even providing new genesis blocks
nubbins`: anyway, i tried to use the same trick to reset a user's email address -- that one is not possible
mircea_popescu: nubbins` this is how you know a site that claims it's trading X btc/day actually does : ridiculous csrf bugs don't drive them out of business.
mircea_popescu: weblogic 1.0
nubbins`: web security 0.1
nubbins`: i was amazed to see shit like this in a production environment
nubbins`: okay, looks like all the important actions are protected from this by storing a session variable in a hidden text field and submitting that with the request
nubbins`: TBF this would have been an issue with the forum software itself
kakobrekla: yes but i think sesc is obtainable
nubbins`: not before the form is loaded tho
kakobrekla: if you edit one of your own posts you get in in the url
kakobrekla: for example
kakobrekla: and it doesnt change
nubbins`: sure, it stays with you until your session expires
nubbins`: but the question remains: how to get it?
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kakobrekla: load the edit post page in iframe, read off the url?
kakobrekla: takes more craft.
nubbins`: well you'd need to know the value of sesc to successfully load the iframe
kakobrekla: really?
nubbins`: i think so
Guest33451: mircea_popescu killed biggie smalls
kakobrekla: hold on
Guest33451: I have evidence
nubbins`: "Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again."
nubbins`: hold on now
nubbins`: yeah, no, i don't think it's do-able
nubbins`: without XSS
mircea_popescu: wait wut
KRS1: BIG poppa
kakobrekla: yeah its not so straight forward
nubbins`: oh well
nubbins`: anyway
nubbins`: this is why you use frameworks and CMSes
nubbins`: because generally intelligent people have thought this stuff through
nubbins`: roll your own website, and you're taking on all that responsibility yourself
lippoper: getnetworkhashps
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pankkake: well, that depends on your tools, too. you can roll your own with libs that help you do the right thing
pankkake: but things like php help you do exactly the wrong thing
nubbins`: sure
nubbins`: ah look, icbit.se runs off ASP.NET
nubbins`: how quaint
nubbins`: it's not as bad as people like to think
nubbins`: i mean, the code it generates is FUCKED
nubbins`: but it tailors it to the individual's browser/os
pankkake: given that I do a lot of website parsing, I hate it :p
nubbins`: and it's reasonably secure
nubbins`: heh yeah
nubbins`: <![CDATA[//> tags everywhere
jurov: such ugliness is more an intrinsic problem of HTML++
jurov: i am using a tool to generate stuff from outline
jurov: somewhat like literate programming to organize code to not get crazy
jurov: and it just isn't possible to insert stuff marking the section reliably into xhtml
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jurov: ended up exactly with such ugly CDATA wrappers
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nubbins`: CDATA is a bit of a hot mess
jurov: just a result of HTML/XML kludge
nubbins`: when i made sites with JSF, i don't think they generated any CDATA tags
nubbins`: but JSF comes with its own set of problems
nubbins`: there's no perfect solution
nubbins`: FWIW, visual studio is a great IDE
nubbins`: tho few are willing to admit it
jurov: at least javascript *must* be wrapped in cdata
pankkake: or, don't put javascript in html ;)
nubbins`: just wrap it in <!-- -->
nubbins`: the browser will parse it, and you don't break W3C compliance
kakobrekla: fuck compilance
pankkake: yes, that's the way javascript should be included: <!-- <script></script> -->
nubbins`: "fuck compliance" is the general mantra, yes
pankkake: kakobrekla: that's the html5 spirit!
nubbins`: it's also the html 4.01 spirit
nubbins`: the IE 1-10 spirit
pankkake: no, html5 basically admits "devs can't write correct html, so we are going to spec how browsers should react to bad stuff"
kakobrekla: when i see "this page has been validated" i leave it immediately
kakobrekla: its most prolly scam.
jurov: what? you mean <script><!-- if (a > b){stuff} --></script> no?
nubbins`: making pages w3c compliant is suck a fucking pain in the hole
nubbins`: for no measurable benefit
kakobrekla: zactly.
nubbins`: *such
pankkake: eh, one of my websites is XHTML 1.1 compliant
kakobrekla: which translates to only idiots do it
pankkake: that's some hardcore stuff
pankkake: jurov: no, that was the joke :p
nubbins`: hmm, only 157 compliance errors on mpex.co
nubbins`: not bad
pankkake: it probably just needs the html5 doctype
pankkake: unless it uses <marquee>
nubbins`: nah there's no doctype specified
pankkake: which would actually fit right in here
nubbins`: just specifying one would probably get rid of all 157 errors
jurov: i'm using xml templates, somewhere there in between was the reason i can't just comment everything out
pankkake: that's what I meant
nubbins`: xslt
nubbins`: speaking of nightmares...
benkay: it's not that dev's can't in2 html, it's that once a person starts calling themselves a 'dev' they generally have left html behind because the dom is a stateful nightmare to program for
benkay: back buttons
benkay: all the things
nubbins`: fuck the back button
pankkake: fuck web applications
benkay: yeah i had a conversation recently where the conclusion was 'we no ams use back button'
pankkake: it's for documents
nubbins`: at my last job, there was at least one asshole on each project who would ask "can we just disable the browser's back button?"
nubbins`: "well that depends, can i just walk into your house and fuck your wife?"
benkay: too bad web applications are the only way to develop affordably in a way that most mobile browsers can access surfaced data
KRS1: i hate web applications i'm a systems guy
nubbins`: i did web apps for 5 years and then ragequit
benkay: ya well people gotta derp on buttons and see pretty graphs
KRS1: i can see why nubbins`
nubbins`: i'll never do it again
pankkake: I am trying to branch out of web applications
pankkake: not many people want to pay me to write CLI applications though!
kakobrekla: you are all in a webapp
kakobrekla: called webchat for freenode
KRS1: pankkake not much of a choice
pankkake: ban webchat
pankkake: worst invention ever
nubbins`: pankkake, there's plenty of coding to be done that's not web apps and not CLI
pankkake: actually, at some point, I started projects that didn't even have a CLI
pankkake: you had to run the interpreter and import the lib
nubbins`: web services don't have a cli
kakobrekla: i think some do
pankkake: true. that's what I was mostly doing with the webby stuff
nubbins`: well sure, but they're not really used that way in real life
nubbins`: just parsed by code
nubbins`: in general usage, web services don't have an I of any type, CL or otherwise
kakobrekla: more sites could be lik https://cmd.fm
kakobrekla: anyone wants to do bitbet console version :)
kakobrekla: stop browsing with a potato
pankkake: kakobrekla: well I do write CLI interfaces to talk to websites
pankkake: especially the bad ones
kakobrekla: i think it would be better if its inbrowser faked cli
ozbot: FSF's Richard Stallman Calls LLVM a 'Terrible Setback' - Slashdot
pankkake: no, UNIX style applications are awesome
pankkake: http://www.beeeeer.org/ now this is a good website design
KRS1: .bait
pankkake: TUI?
pizzaman1337: touch ui?
pankkake: oh :)
nubbins`: at my last job, all the front-line staffed used TUI
nubbins`: *staff
nubbins`: big clunky RPG IV programs
nubbins`: developed in the 80s
jspiros: I am in the same position as pankkake, I am tired of webdev and wish people would pay me to write CLI/TUI apps
nubbins`: "hit F12... now C... now 3... Tab twice... F2 that..."
jspiros: though I would be happy writing GUI apps too, for desktops; I'm just tired of mobile or web as the primary options
jspiros: nubbins`: delicious
mircea_popescu: fun fact : most mpex brokers are cli.
nubbins`: web is the worst fucking medium to write for
jspiros: I think the web is fine for what it was originally designed for; hacking desktop-style UIs into it is when things started to go wrong
nubbins`: how many mpex brokers are there, anyway?
nubbins`: jspiros, +1
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ozbot: Court Says Craigslist Sperm Donor Must Pay Child Support - Slashdot
jurov: nubbins`: i'm afraid all others went into hiding or out of business
nubbins`: TL, DR: a doctor didn't collect the sperm
nubbins`: but how was the sperm collected, you ask?
nubbins`: "...while agreeing to donate sperm in a plastic cup to Schreiner and Angela Bauer..."
nubbins`: i can see the craigslist ad now
nubbins`: "We are two hot lesbians who are looking for a man to visit our house and cum into a red Solo cup"
KRS1: .bait
pankkake: .bait
pankkake: with all these stories I'm afraid of where my sperm goes
nubbins`: further food for thought: it's the state, not the women, who instigated this process
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: linkrot got you down? https://medium.com/the-magazine/ff97b5f36be8
nubbins`: from what i can gather, the two moms got on welfare and the state wants the cup-cummer to repay $6k worth of welfare cheques
pankkake: yes, but the mom shouldn't have declared a father
nubbins`: she probably had to in order to collect welfare
nubbins`: "there is no father" "where's the letter from your doctor?"
nubbins`: anyway, gotta run
mircea_popescu: " A recent Harvard study found that 49 percent of links in Supreme Court opinions are now dead, and 70 percent of links in journals, including the Harvard Law Review, are dead too."
mircea_popescu: for crying out loud
mircea_popescu: on the positive side, trilema > the scotus, culturally speaking.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.0010015 = 0.9014 BTC [-]
jurov: links to polimedia.us/trilema aren't dead?
KRS1: as long as the bait keeps coming
KRS1: yeah what happened to dtng on polimedia.us? There were great pics there
mircea_popescu: jurov no ? are they ?
jurov: just asking. they are not
Apocalyptic: btw polimedia.us now redirects to MPex directly
mircea_popescu: yeah, i got tired of "sorry, no, not taking clients, no, srsly."
benkay: this is why bitcoin is going to break the welfare state
benkay: you cannot come to me and say "this child is yours and we're going to garnish your wages" for you cannot garnish my bitcoin earnings.
mircea_popescu: a fine example, yes.
mircea_popescu: "but 75% of the 200 ppl on derptalk voted!!!"
mircea_popescu: "yeah well... bully for them"
mircea_popescu: and that's that.
mircea_popescu: soon enough feeding two idiot women who think they're lesbians as if that's something to be is too expensive,
mircea_popescu: and so either find a job or get over yourself.
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1957 blocks | Estimated Change: 8.5723% in 12d 9h 54m 37s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9715 @ 0.00099424 = 9.659 BTC [-]
ozbot: Young 'pranksters' skewed landmark sexuality study | Cornell Chronicle
Diablo-D3: [05:37:46] <benkay> you cannot come to me and say "this child is yours and we're going to garnish your wages" for you cannot garnish my bitcoin earnings.
Diablo-D3: actually, they can just court order you to sell your assets
Diablo-D3: and jesus christ man
Diablo-D3: if you have a kid
Diablo-D3: pay the fucking court order
Diablo-D3: dont make him suffer because you're a fucking loser that needs to be shot
benkay: man
benkay: Diablo-D3 do you just show up in here, read the last five lines and start typing?
Diablo-D3: that was like 20 lines ago
benkay: n, where n is insufficient to derive context?
mircea_popescu: "there's nowehere nearly as many gay people as the gay political party would have you believe". shocking!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.0009951 = 10.2495 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: >gay political party
Diablo-D3: oh my~
benkay: implying it's not?
Diablo-D3: well, the republican party IS pretty big
benkay: so?
pankkake: isn't the republican party full of guys getting their dicks sucked by men in public toilets or something?
Diablo-D3: pankkake: thats the joke
mircea_popescu: well in this context, by "gay political party" i simply meant the bunch of despicable faggots that are going "we are opressed please give us free shit out of the public tax chest"
mircea_popescu: like the niggers, exactly, just with a different story.
KRS1: nah nigga
Diablo-D3: the republican party is full of gay niggers
KRS1: gay nigger garbage man
mircea_popescu: that could be a sitcom
ozbot: Faggot Bruce - Cockstar - YouTube
KRS1: yes sitcom perfect
mircea_popescu: there's this one guy who's reasonably sane. he works as a garbage truck driver. everyone thinks he's gay and black, for some reason.
mircea_popescu: and everyone's life is constantly going to shit.
mircea_popescu: he's sort-of the straight man of the show
KRS1: my god this rapper has to be a joke
KRS1: i would uninstall myself, deficate and die if i got my ass kicked and raped by a gangster ass faggot
pankkake: yeah this is bad
KRS1: gotta be a joke
Renuxes_: Hello! Fundraising for my mother to fight cancer. I accept bitcoins. Details: http://www.gofundme.com/5wb6js
pankkake: "heavy metal style" lol
mircea_popescu: Renuxes_ are you being funny or lame ?
pankkake: listen to gorgoroth for non faggy gay metal!
kakobrekla: Renuxes_ ipo on havelock?
Namworld: Seriously, someone take a club with protuding nails and insert it up deep in Bitstamp's ass. I don't want to fly over to do it myself.
mircea_popescu: Namworld make a gofundme page ?
kakobrekla: you know someone like me could take down bitstamp quite simply
kakobrekla: i know where their server is and they only do daily local msql dumps
kakobrekla: so there you have it.
kakobrekla: take the server or just nuke hdd.
Namworld: Gofundme page: "Help me insert objects with protuding rusted metal spike in orifices"
jurov: kakobrekla what if someone really throws molotow to bitstamp dc and they'll imply you?
Namworld: What?
Namworld: They have no backups? How would you even know?
kakobrekla: yeah well i will imply you
jurov: i don't know where the dc is, you said you did
kakobrekla: well as it happens i know
kakobrekla: yeah but i told you
jurov: well, now you are complicit anyway
Namworld: Bitstamp wants dox with so much resolution they fit on 2 pages
pankkake: enhance!
Namworld: I only have a 3.2 mp camera
Apocalyptic: they want your miners' receipt too and pic of you with them if you withdraw > 100k and claim you mined it
Namworld: They might be a bit overboard there
jurov: Apocalyptic and shoe on the head?
Apocalyptic: jurov, nah they missed that somehow
Namworld: Do they want to do a cavity search too to make sure I'm not hiding and going to buy drugs from myself?
Apocalyptic: Namworld, i've recently received the requirements to open a corporate account with them
Apocalyptic: they're clearly overdoing the AML/KYC thing
jurov: and i thought bitcoin-central went overboard, but it was actually better than this
blg: lmao
blg: @
blg: self cavity search
kakobrekla: yeah, thanks for otc.
Namworld: It would be easier to convince an NSA agent to just bring a suitcase of money to an unnamed individual in the countryside in a region where terrorists are known to hide than to AML/KYC with Bitstamp?
blg: arent there any criminal countries left where you can open a bank account no questions asked and run a bitcoin business with it
jurov: vatican?
blg: i was thinking eastern europe or middle east or south america
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> they want your miners' receipt too and pic of you with them if you withdraw > 100k and claim you mined it << because who asked them ?
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, no idea
jurov: eastern europe? pfffft, we have almost no local banks
jurov: all are subsidiaries of western-eurpoean banks
Apocalyptic: i think they freely decided to do so
Namworld: It's completly serious too. They'll ask for it.
blg: damn
jurov: and they set the standards
blg: i didnt know that jurov
Namworld: Bitstamp must actually be USG funded.
pankkake: wow, I seriously thought you were joking
jurov: lol, so usg gave a tesla to nejc?
blg: USG =? US gov?
Apocalyptic: or usagi
jurov: us govt
blg: bitstamp is a slovenian bank
blg: but a "uk" company
jurov: no, they moved to uk
blg: the bank is still in slovenia
blg: they are just incorporated in the UK
jurov: they still send sepa transfers from slovenia? iirc i got the last one from the uk
blg: i could be completely wrong
blg: but when i was looking up their banking info on doing incoming wires
blg: it was a slovenian bank
Apocalyptic: jurov, well they received their SEPAs in the slovenian one
Apocalyptic: *receive
jurov: ok
jurov: blg, to be fair, you can maybe use estonian banks
jurov: russians do, but cyprus-style crackdown is imminent
ozbot: New euro member Latvia brings dirty money headache
jurov: afaik best is to create offshore corp and move money through it
jurov: i haven't needed that yet myself because no regulator figured bitcoins out here, but maybe next year
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00308898 = 0.2935 BTC [+]
Neil: "Estimated BTC Transacted 0.00144397 BTC" That's just too funny
mircea_popescu: yeah lol
mircea_popescu: only 99.99999% off
nubbins`: going back a bit here
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: it's the two moms making the kid suffer because they're fucking losers that need to be shot
nubbins`: aaaand i'm gone again
truffles: booo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04923333 = 0.5908 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16462 @ 0.00099591 = 16.3947 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.04999996 = 0.35 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;later tell nubbins && Diablo-D3 also the state making the kid suffer under retarded fascist rules. if there hadn't been two decades of 'his sperm made this child ergo he is financially responsible for child support' caselaw driven by a certain political groups' takeover of the us judicial and pop morality systems it might be a different story
gribble: The operation succeeded.
truffles: just read about that story heh
benkay: 'but what about the poor children whose single mothers fall on hard times' the socialists whine
benkay: well state allocation of capital is a crime against sensible anything
benkay: and state allocation of capital to preserve human life is just as criminal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4391 @ 0.00100361 = 4.4069 BTC [+]
benkay: more people need to die.
benkay: life is not in and of itself valuable.
truffles: well i think it helps maintain order
truffles: the sums distributed might not be reasonable though
benkay: order would be more well maintained if people had to be orderly in order to eat.
benkay: man it'd be great to pop the davos comms wide open
benkay: s/great/amusing
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00099908 = 9.1915 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the davos coms are probably comparatively boring
benkay: who would you like to eavesdrop on, mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: well now that i consider it... turns out nobody.
benkay: har
truffles: that facebook dude
truffles: he doesnt care for privacy anyways
truffles: strip show??
truffles: everyone else is wearing too much
mircea_popescu: weird 1970s eastern europe dress for the crowd
truffles: the women look pissed heh
ozbot: 4chan BBS - ascii dick
benkay: plural, ozbot.
benkay: plural, 4chan.
truffles: la la la didnt click
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00099908 = 18.7328 BTC [-]
ozbot: Problem with BOURSE forced buyback on Cryptostocks
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20488 @ 0.00099591 = 20.4042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1512 @ 0.00099583 = 1.5057 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44989978 = 0.8998 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: The leader of the Oneida Indian Nation is going to the United Nations today to complain about the name of the Washington Redskins football team.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [+]
Duffer1: he mad
mircea_popescu: "A newly-uncovered and monumental calculating error in official US government climate data shows beyond doubt that climate scientists unjustifiably added on a whopping one degree of phantom warming to the official "raw" temperature record."
mircea_popescu: you know, fucktarded politicos & bureaucrats posing as scientists.
the20year2: one celcius or farenheight?
the20year2: Wasn't the average warming only like 1.4c?
mircea_popescu: it's not just that their bs is so politically transparent. it's that they can't even sit down do the math properly.
mircea_popescu: the20year2 there's no difference is there.
the20year2: and that's what the 'evil conspiracy theorists' have been saying for 4 years, and the media painted them as idiots and crazy
the20year2: I've had some somewhat smart people calling me names because I've stated more than once that a 100 year observation window isn't enough to build climate models
mircea_popescu: especially if what you do is you take that window, extrapolate a history based on it, and then pretend like the new dataset is usable to extrapolate a future evolution.
the20year2: And that's what I've said, and been called a idiot more times than I'd like to think about
ozbot: Just Hit The NOAA Motherlode | Real Science
the20year2: yeah , that's what i was reading
benkay: har nobody i know takes it seriously any more
benkay: the trick is not to argue with them but to mock them for attempting to model the unmodelable
the20year2: really? I run into quite a few people who do, and the -50 degrees this next week are proof
benkay: and then get real serious about numbers of variables and extrapolations and observation windows briefly before saying 'but this is all esoteric shit that bogs one down in details when the more important point is that they cannot possibly say what they say with any justification'
chetty: people may not take it seriously, but you still can't buy a decent lightbulb
the20year2: The one weather service says with windchill it will be -79c
kakobrekla: i knew it was a scam in 2003 or so, is one of the reasons didnt get my degree, not talking bout c or f.
benkay: the20year2: you also live in ohio, shit fuck idiot capital ville of nowhere america
the20year2: Your point?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.0010023 = 10.2736 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: higher density of people lacking faculties
mircea_popescu: well possibly you run into more retards there.
the20year2: too few people have planned for this crap, i'm curious what the death toll will be
mircea_popescu: hopefully it will be record high.
the20year2: I've been saying for 4 years for people to get emergency heaters, and only one person I know went out and di it
benkay: "my friend reminds me that people like Danny, who can tell a good story, fervently and in the right plutocratic echelons, can be very useful when starting a business" http://blog.podsnap.com/startup-of-darkness.html
the20year2: If you look at Ohio's weather, since the mid-late 1800s, we've had a bad winter every 30 years or so, and we've been due for a bad one for like 2years
benkay: sadly, the technical gentleman disregards all of the other metrics that might be interesting
benkay: recovery times
the20year2: We had one in '78 and the drifts were 4 meters high
benkay: cost per surgeon
the20year2: they tried to mobilize the national guard but they couldn't even assemble
mircea_popescu: shoelace tying problem ?
Apocalyptic: hum primecoin block explorer cannot even afford their own domain it seems
mircea_popescu: so what happens to the average us home, which was build on the cheap out of shoddy materials, is currently foreclosed and thus empty, and the winter hits hard ?
mircea_popescu: i guess banks take more writedowns right ?
the20year2: Depends if the bank winterized it
kakobrekla: Apocalyptic you can bribe blockr.io guys to add it there
the20year2: There's a $100 process that will make the property weather just fine
mircea_popescu: yeah, because they on average did like 8% iirc.
Apocalyptic: kakobrekla, i have no interest to do so
kakobrekla: just sayin
the20year2: But, of course, not all properties will be winterized
the20year2: So, come spring anyone looking at them will get a nasty surprise of broken pipes throughout
benkay: plough it under.
benkay: all of it.
mircea_popescu: mr dimon might have to bring back some of those 20mn to help jpm make it through spring.
the20year2: Some banks will force winterization - they hire people to watch homes, when someone moves out they get in and winterize it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.49055863 = 8.3395 BTC [+] {5}
the20year2: BOA is terrible about it, wells fargo is quite good
benkay: let the robots have the center of the country
benkay: have/till
benkay: while the tyrant's agricultural policies hasten the next dust bowl.
benkay: "let the water table drain!" say the bureaucrats. "let the states fight over what scraps of water remain."
the20year2: What state? California?
benkay: everything fed by the colorado river
benkay: all states sitting atop the depleting aquifers
benkay: all states fed by unrenewing glaciers
mircea_popescu: what, it rains in the us doesn't it ?
mircea_popescu: why'd aquifers deplete
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, piigs banks look set for an aditional... 300 to 500 billions in writeoffs.
the20year2: farmland and large cities taking up more water
mircea_popescu: 2014 has a good shot at being the first zero gdp year on record. both the us and the eu look set to write off in financials at leeast as much if not more than what the economy produces.
mircea_popescu: not zero gdp growth. zero gdp at all. -100% gdp drop.
the20year2: what's that based on?
the20year2: (news source?)
mircea_popescu: draghi's latest statements precipitated it, but otherwise general behaviour of everyone involved.
mircea_popescu: exactly how bad bank assets are being the most closely guarded secret atm.
the20year2: I do freelance work for most of the major lenders, and get to see all their vacant properties or properties that are in default, but they don't want to process
ozbot: Europe prepares to come clean on hidden bank losses
the20year2: 230b between spain and italy?
mircea_popescu: things haven't improved since then. au contraire.
mircea_popescu: they retraced.
mircea_popescu: that was oct.
Apocalyptic: <ozbot> Europe prepares to come clean on hidden bank losses // brace yourself
the20year2: I've been so curious as to what's been going on with the PIGS, here in the US the news disappeared
the20year2: it went from utter collapse to....nothing
mircea_popescu: the news on the german gold owed by the us also disappeared.
mircea_popescu: tit for tat.
mircea_popescu: the slobbering fat dork and the lanky acneic geek can be best friends
mircea_popescu: just as soon as they agree not to point out the various unflattering bits. and so what if no girls are interested ?
the20year2: i've seen more about the german gold than spanish and itailian banks
mircea_popescu: you read the eu press ? :)
mircea_popescu: there;s plenty about the piigs in french etc.
the20year2: Sadly, no
asciilifeform: broken pipes won't be a problem. the copper's been 'harvested.'
nubbins`: "This time around, the task of cleaning up banks should not be quite as daunting as five years ago because shareholders, bondholders and wealthy depositors can expect to take some of the losses, as happened in the bailout of Cyprus in March."
nubbins`: haircuts for all!
the20year2: bitcoin!
truffles: busy nubbins?
Apocalyptic: truffles, game ?
truffles: i only have so much juice in me
truffles: dont drain meeeee
truffles: in 30 mins sure
kakobrekla: <the20year2> bitcoin!
kakobrekla: well, haircuts are common in btc as well
kakobrekla: just look around
asciilifeform: the btc equivalent is when someone hangs you upside-down and connects you to a mains socket, to extract your keys.
kakobrekla: one of them
Apocalyptic: not if you don't invest them and hold them securely kako
kakobrekla: yes or hold cash in your own safe box
kakobrekla: how many people do one or the other
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
wao-ender: amaze
wao-ender: bitcoin should have it's kind of nobel prizes.
wao-ender: bitcoin awards.
Duffer1: only if #B-A gets to pick the winner
truffles: like darwin awards?
mircea_popescu: nubbins meanwhile the lift of s.mpoe earlier this week from 80s to 100s quietly added about 200 million worth of new wealth to the savvier counterparts to those investors buying... all the other scams.
truffles: Apocalyptic ready?
Apocalyptic: yes truffles
Apocalyptic: pankkake, he has an interesting evocating name
Apocalyptic: he be shilling
truffles: i dont see u
benkay: mmm mpoe
truffles: walked into that 1
ozbot: Testing Shiller's Nobel Prize Against The Bitcoin Bubble - Forbes
TATtothemoon: indirectly calls mpex options useless
mircea_popescu: dude the forum has reached a singularity by now.
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of muppets in mpoe thread screaming about how mpex is "designed to make money from noobs"
TATtothemoon: I can't even read the forum anymore
mircea_popescu: and a bunch of muppets in all the noob-scam threads congratulating them on their superprofessional buznizz skillzorz
TATtothemoon: I start to want to correct people and then I'm like why bother anymore...
mircea_popescu: i've never before seen people genuinely praise shit and despise steak, out of what seems like their own personal volition and thought process
TATtothemoon: and my ignore list is now useless too
mircea_popescu: no but i mean... it's 100% opposite. not like... wrong. completely motherfucking backwards.
pankkake: bizarro forum?
jborkl: Sup noobs
TATtothemoon: its shill zone
mircea_popescu: i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: this may be an explanation, basically, buncha shills simply making a deliberate effort to switch terminology around.
TATtothemoon: posts aren't even real anymore
mircea_popescu: that'd have to mean the forum is mostly not read by noobs anymore.
mircea_popescu: just shills shilling to shills.
TATtothemoon: skimming the occassional noob
mircea_popescu: sorta like a bitcoin 4chan of shilling.
TATtothemoon: this is a signal
TATtothemoon: bitcoin has bottomed out
mircea_popescu: it is, but what it signals is collapse
jborkl: I don't know , they are pretty dumb shills if that is the case
TATtothemoon: need lifeblood
mircea_popescu: not sure of what exactly, but it is a strong top signal
mircea_popescu: jborkl i think shills have to be pretty dumb. if they were smart they'd find more productive stuff to do neh ?
jborkl: True
jborkl: Excellent point
TATtothemoon: scam training ground
jborkl: Moon coin
jborkl: ? Tat
jborkl: Oh to the moon is the motto of the altcoin of the week
TATtothemoon: its like fly choking fly!
mircea_popescu: i'm half considering hiring an indian outsourcer and putting 2-3-5k indian kids on spamming all the scam threads just for lulz.
TATtothemoon: damn autocorrext
mircea_popescu: see the panic on the faces of the various would be "entrepreneurs" once they get flooded to shit.
mircea_popescu: sadly there's no way i could in good conscience justify the expense to shareholders.
TATtothemoon: chikun *
mircea_popescu: sucks being a ceo ;/
TATtothemoon: IPO the idea
TATtothemoon: haven't u learnt?
mircea_popescu: well... there's nothing in the idea, that's what they're doing already, amateurly, or on shoestring budgets.
mircea_popescu: the only idea is that i have a larger pile of money than your mom has a pile of used condoms.
mircea_popescu: not much there.
TATtothemoon: the new forum rules might just kill it
mircea_popescu: it'd actually be a sad twist on bitcoin if that's what it'd end up doing : burn elec to mine, burn btc to spam a forum... too virtual.
Mats_cd03: anyone ever use radare2?
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 nope
jborkl: What new rules Tat?
TATtothemoon: unmitigated sock accounts now
Duffer1: no more noob yard
mircea_popescu: jborkl o, it's a riot. no more noobzone, so all the shills can make socks with lower cost
TATtothemoon: can also pay to unban
mircea_popescu: and ip bans (pay to unban)
jborkl: Oh, so they mos needed more money eh
TATtothemoon: need ha
jborkl: I noticed all these accounts with 5 posts or 3 posts, now it makes sense
jborkl: Oh and usagi made a thread, only a 90% loss and it worked out well
mircea_popescu: yeah pretty much everyone who read that came here to wtf
truffles: misclick?
mircea_popescu: you're like the 5th. it is teh wtf of all time
TATtothemoon: he says he learned a lot
TATtothemoon: Usagi learned so much he lapped himself into stupidity again
jborkl: Yeah, I shook my head ablnd did a desk faceplant
Apocalyptic: gg, too bad for the free rook
truffles: im on a spiral
jborkl: Learning by losing other peoples money for the 9th time is really rough guys
TATtothemoon: I like all these Davis tidbits of dudes telling dudes not to buy bitcoin
jborkl: But I learned so much, this time I have it right.
TATtothemoon: such care for their brothers
Apocalyptic: <TATtothemoon> Usagi learned so much he lapped himself into stupidity again // dude is still around ?
TATtothemoon: resurfaced today
ozbot: Robert Shiller Bitcoin - Business Insider
jborkl: The mpex is the biggest scam thread is a wtf, isn't it the only thing in that thread that is not a scam
TATtothemoon: best surname ever
jborkl: Robert Schiller? That is awesome shill name
Apocalyptic: before you joined
Apocalyptic: <Apocalyptic> pankkake, he has an interesting evocating name
Apocalyptic: <Apocalyptic> he be shilling
quellhorst: can anyone give me some shillings?
TATtothemoon: a bloodline of shills
ozbot: Shilling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
TATtothemoon: too bad surnames don't have meaning anymore
TATtothemoon: would be cool punishment
TATtothemoon: judge says sorry Usagi younew surname is scamsteroni
mircea_popescu: i actually lol'd over scamsteroni
mircea_popescu: could be Bob S. McArony
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60092 @ 0.00099705 = 59.9147 BTC [-] {4}
TATtothemoon: Says Shiller: "It is a bubble, there is no question about it. ... It's just an amazing example of a bubble."
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: "the fact that if it's not i'm out of a job, permanently, has no impact on my foregoing opinion"
TATtothemoon: like these things are simply proclaimed
TATtothemoon: and I like its bitcoin itself that is a bubble
TATtothemoon: is there a bubblecoin yet?
mircea_popescu: anyway. the bubble will be happening in the summer, once these schmucks capitulate, and i'll be fighting against five digit madness
TATtothemoon: agreed
mircea_popescu: same experts, saying stupid shit, just so happens to be opposite of a few months ago.
mircea_popescu: infinite analyst hitpoints.
TATtothemoon: tho I haven't come to terms with predicting five digits
TATtothemoon: I can rationalize maybe 3400 this year
TATtothemoon: but rationality, bitcoin...
mircea_popescu: yes well, bubbles aren't required to make sense.
mircea_popescu: they're only required to make waves
TATtothemoon: can someone eli5, how does one become a Core developer for Bitcoin? -reddite
mircea_popescu: that's easy. they just go to a lot of conferences and say stupidshit.
TATtothemoon: and reinvent the jetpack
jborkl: There is a conference here, I actually thought about going until I found out it was $275 and no one I had ever heard of- although they say they are bitcoin experts
jborkl: I came to my senses and slapped myself a couple timea
jborkl: Times
TATtothemoon: I left the state instead :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04990001 = 0.1497 BTC [-]
TATtothemoon: "Some HSBC customers have been prevented from withdrawing large amounts of cash because they could not provide evidence of why they wanted it, the BBC has learnt."
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