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mircea_popescu: Tulak_ wb.
KRS-: LOL @ Obama Happy meal good one!
Tulak_: mornin
Tulak_: bitcointalk turns into a comedy
nubbins`: comedy > tragedy
Tulak_: so many topics open with 0.0X btc loaning
Tulak_: true dat
mircea_popescu: i looked into the gambling section report yest for the first time in about two months
mircea_popescu: and took that section off the reporting orders.
Tulak_: ah mircea !
pankkake: gambling section is full of people looking for 0.00001 free btc
Tulak_: the prophet :)
pankkake: actually I wonder what are the use cases for borrowing in btc
mircea_popescu: i'm just an asshole.
mircea_popescu: pankkake there's a market for fantasy rape. same people.
pankkake: there are some. I lent to one guy who wanted to buy something quickly (probably drugs but what do I care) and was waiting for mtgox
nubbins`: probably the only legit use
pankkake: he repaid me after btc went up 5×. lesson learned
mircea_popescu: just for fun i went through all the fiat-based deals where people wanted to ipo in bitcoin cca 2012 and i talked them out of it.
pankkake: well you also can't easily borrow millions without telling your banker what it's for
mircea_popescu: "well done, your company went up 5x in 2 years in fiat. that means only a 90% loss for your bitcoin investors!!1"
nubbins`: rentalstarter
nubbins`: i fucked up an entire batch of wedding invitations today, feels bad
pankkake: offer them a free print for the divorce
nubbins`: well i obv didn't deliver them yet :P
nubbins`: "here, sorry"
nubbins`: gotta start again from scratch
nubbins`: this time, i'll probably pay closer attention
Tulak_: re
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: til "Bitbet owner is a slimy fuck that is the definition of elitist"
Tulak_: mircea_popescu, are you mpoe-pr on talk?
mircea_popescu: henceforth i shall be refered to as either mp in the direct or "the definition of elitist" in the euphemistic.
mircea_popescu: Tulak_ no, mpoe-pr is teh girl.
Tulak_: so your wife
mircea_popescu: i ain't married.
Tulak_: good job
nubbins`: mp is like oprah
Tulak_: dont
nubbins`: he has a lifelong relationship with a man named steadman whom he refuses to marry
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/ < she's the chick on the 2nd pic, in red. works for mpoe/mpex
ozbot: The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [-]
Tulak_: holy mother! the knockers
mircea_popescu: some girls are fortunate.
Tulak_: guess ill have to stay here now
mircea_popescu: nubbins` oprah actually refuses to marry someone ?
Tulak_: so these people showed me yesterday why this is a better place to be than btctalk
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: wouldn't you?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i would refuse to marry her, yes.
mircea_popescu: tho i WOULD take her down 42nd street in latex and a leash.
mircea_popescu: imagine the ratings!
Tulak_: whats the bitbet topic all about?
nubbins`: hm, she apparently dated roger ebert in the 80s!
mircea_popescu: what bitbet topic ?
nubbins`: the one that calls you slimy i guess
Tulak_: where this guy complains that he lost 10btc
mircea_popescu: o. i dunno, some guy.
Tulak_: because he sent without txfee and on closing of bet lol
Tulak_: mpoe-pr is going berserk
Tulak_: and i like some naughty girl action
mircea_popescu: this happens every time bitcoin perks up. buncha consumers get sucked in by the irresponsible media hype, then they get hurt.
mircea_popescu: somehow groking that bitcoin isn't a consumer affair is hard, and too many losers pushing it as such for lack of a clue.
Tulak_: and leave eventually
Tulak_: people would never handle 100000$ in such a carefree attitude, but sending 200 btc here and there
Tulak_: morons
Tulak_: oh well
mircea_popescu: well, bitcoin is bitcoin. the fiat part... whatever.
mircea_popescu: basically people buying it on the exchanges are exactly like the players buying game goods/toons on the illegal markets in most games
mircea_popescu: sure, they get whatever sword. but they didn't EARN it so they have no idea what is what
mircea_popescu: they get killed, looted, whatever. as per game rules.
mircea_popescu: then they wish to whine to somebody. well... dohn't fucking buy it, mine it like everyone else.
mircea_popescu: it's not a currency.
mircea_popescu: look what teh ppls dredged up.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you'll prolly enjoy the comments.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.388 = 3.492 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00078744 = 6.2208 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.22399999 = 1.12 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.003851 = 0.1656 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.388 = 9.7 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.003851 = 0.3851 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.00201001 = 0.3216 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.003851 = 0.1155 BTC [-]
tulak_: yo
KRS-: hi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 272 @ 0.003851 = 1.0475 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.03265 = 0.1633 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00379989 = 0.1064 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.24996099 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: moaning
jurov: hi kako
jurov: so big log, so small time
jurov: *little time
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hey.
KRS-: i know you guys like max keiser but he sure seems like an idiot with an ego
KRS-: i worked for a guy like him and i could see through him like i had xray vision
KRS-: just wait til he becomes your enemy =/
mircea_popescu: KRS- wait, when did us guys liked him ?
mircea_popescu: he's a tool lol.
KRS-: he is a tool for sure..idk..people in btc seem to love him..he just seems to like whatever gets him attention.
tulak_: mircea!
KRS-: i remember when this article came out..at the time i think it was ahead of the times, especially ahead of my comprehension..reading again...for sure ahead of my understanding at the time. ahh what i wouldnt do to rewind this shit back to apr.
KRS-: Nice to know I'm in the same company with folks that can not only think outside the box, the norm, but also above average intelligence and certianly not other lemmings.
mircea_popescu: that's too much, i'll take half.
KRS-: damn i gotta get some rest some time tonight
ozbot: Incredibly popular delusions of the crowd and the pernicious role of government. pe Trilema - Un blo
KRS-: kickass blog dude..not sure if everoyne's ready for it all or not haha..kinda like nosuchlabs..which is maybe 10-15 yrs ahead of its time..I could be way wrong there though.. Ok..last cigarette before i retire to another episode of "Breaking Bad".
KRS-: nite or uh morning (here)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00201 = 0.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0007924 = 4.1997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00079115 = 9.7311 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39898 BTC [-]
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 760.21008, Best ask: 764.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.78992, Last trade: 760.21008, 24 hour volume: 40265.64503467, 24 hour low: 677.0, 24 hour high: 784.4444, 24 hour vwap: 731.87595
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0036052 = 0.3605 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 3240 @ 0.000475 = 1.539 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 4901 @ 0.00045515 = 2.2307 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: [WARNING] BitPay pocketing over $1000 from me.
mircea_popescu: I think it's insane that BitPay cannot repay my whole 4 BTC back, after all they are damn revolved around bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: I feel jipped that BitPay stole over $1000 from me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0037 = 0.1036 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.003799 = 0.1102 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: that thread makes no sense
ThickAsThieves: people want refunds in bitcoins now?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they FEEEEEE EEEEELLLL they
mircea_popescu: 're entitled.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
deadweasel: feeeeeeelings. noooothing but feeeeelingss........
ThickAsThieves: thats seems like the question he should be asking is why not
ThickAsThieves: anger, use it or lose it
mircea_popescu: anyway. as i said, worst wave.
ThickAsThieves: what do we use as body shields?
mircea_popescu: anyway, my takeaway from that thread is that the sandman or w/e guy that was derping all over the bitbet thread nad being used by mpoe-pr for anvil dropping practice
mircea_popescu: now suddenly appreciates how business works and so forth.
mircea_popescu: maybe he can't admit she taught him a lot, but nevertheless she has and it's quite visible.
mircea_popescu: education through violence and humilation works.
deadweasel: some people break through, some people bounce off and have to try again.
mircea_popescu: bouncy ball!
ThickAsThieves: so the answer is to be hold our ground and educate any nearby monsters with insults and smacks to the back of the head?
ThickAsThieves: could work
mircea_popescu: it's been my policy so far.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.003799 = 0.152 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: 1. make sure you have a motherfucking point ; 2. explain it to anyone asking / willing to listen ; 3. beat the shit out of anyone not wanting to listen.
mircea_popescu: it's what makes a country great, it's what'll make the country of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: *evil laughter*
mircea_popescu: TAKE OVER THE WORLD
mircea_popescu: /*evil laughter*
ThickAsThieves: Saint Mircea
ThickAsThieves: maybe theyll Saint us in the end
mircea_popescu: no cause i get too many bjs
ThickAsThieves: diff kinda Saints
mircea_popescu: so what, simon templar gets to act me in the made for tv movie ?
ThickAsThieves: you would be played by Kramer onb
ThickAsThieves: def Jerry
mircea_popescu: i don't think either are scary enough.
ThickAsThieves: its his turning point in acting
ThickAsThieves: a grittier seinfield
mircea_popescu: lol. come watch derpy jewboy turn into al pacino over here!
mircea_popescu: the seinface.
ThickAsThieves: i'd like to be played by benicio del toro plz
mircea_popescu: not bad. maybe madonna's hubby directs
mircea_popescu: the cuts will look like freenode join/part storm on a bad day
thestringpuller: jurov: what are the additional fees (besides mpex) on coinbr trades?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.39924096 = 12.3765 BTC [+] {4}
thestringpuller: just msg me the answer
ThickAsThieves: oh did i leave on the Weather Machine again?
ThickAsThieves: cnn now using all caps in headlines
ThickAsThieves: THE DAY CAMELOT FELL - FROZEN IN MEMORY
ThickAsThieves: Remembering the day JFK was killed
ThickAsThieves: "As his convertible rolled through Dallas, three shots rang out, their echoes lodging in our memories for years to come."
ThickAsThieves: other gems
ThickAsThieves: "Is Harry Potter stamp un-American?"
ThickAsThieves: X-Men' character comes out
ThickAsThieves: How you travel to North Korea
ThickAsThieves: we got Branson
ozbot: Bitcoins in space - Virgin.com
ThickAsThieves: "One future astronaut, a female flight attendant from Hawaii, has already purchased her Virgin Galactic ticket using bitcoins, and we expect many more to follow in her footsteps. "
ThickAsThieves: he's the one that caused the rally
thestringpuller: is there another rally?
ThickAsThieves: well he had to buy the coins before his announcement of course
Duffer1: "Bitcoin... one of the world’s most innovative businesses "
Duffer1: lol
mircea_popescu: "the internet.... the world's most confused place"
kleeck: "The world.... the universe's most confused place"
mircea_popescu: "one of the places - one of the place's most one place"
deadweasel: I don't know development, but thought someone here might like this: https://github.com/cloudflare/redoctober
taub: whats up with bitstamp prices exploding like that
taub: bad news?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean ?
kleeck: Why would bad news drive the price up?
mircea_popescu: and how is it up ? 780ish or w/e
kleeck: People want more Bitcoins?
mike_c: that is ath for bitstamp
kleeck: Yes. and now it is leading Gox.
mircea_popescu: maybe they also stopped doing payouts ?
mike_c: hah
mircea_popescu: more like it, someone did a larger arb with the azn mkt
ThickAsThieves: i blame Branson
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12599795 BTC [+]
jurov: we had some group on fb organizing arb via singapore
jurov: not following on them, but there was interest
mike_c: i bet there was. "you send me bitcoin, i promise I'll send back the yuan. double promise!"
thestringpuller: jurov: did you get my msg?
mircea_popescu: you can't really send yuan that much
jurov: thestringpuller: looks like not
taub: kleeck> Why would bad news drive the price up?
taub: stopping payments/clsoing down etc, people buying what they can to gtfo
taub: just surprised to see a 5% surge and not really anything on the other exchanges
taub: ;;premium mtgox bitstamp
gribble: Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently -0.899390944166 %.
Duffer1: that's crazy
Duffer1: why would anyone stay on gox now?
bloctoc: last time bitstamp lead gox was right before it broke away from $350 wasn't it?
mircea_popescu: becayse they're mostly mtgox ?
Duffer1: ya that sounds about right bloc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1500 @ 0.00391169 = 5.8675 BTC [+] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 483 @ 0.00399649 = 1.9303 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00078614 = 9.2765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 5000 @ 0.00013 = 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 2500 @ 0.0001011 = 0.2528 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !t m s.nsa
assbot: [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0.0001011 / 0.0001011 / 0.0001011 (2500 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0001011 / 0.00011219 / 0.00015 (160037 shares, 17.96 BTC), 30D: 0.0001011 / 0.00013223 / 0.000235 (197447 shares, 26.11 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1820 @ 0.00078373 = 1.4264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 0.17 = 1.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 261 @ 0.00409999 = 1.0701 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0398711 = 0.1994 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 2500 @ 0.000105 = 0.2625 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 5000 @ 0.00012659 = 0.633 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 29 @ 0.03989899 = 1.1571 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0406 = 0.2842 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 5050 @ 0.00012418 = 0.6271 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: that reddit/labcoin/bitbet link is gold. keeping it for future reference
mike_c: i'm going to start a website that "explains" all price movements and become rich. like "mpoe just dropped as people realized the owner has a fondness for poisonous psychoactive mushrooms"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 273113 @ 0.000105 = 28.6769 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mike_c you're kinda late to that party tho, by now my picture is more widely affixed to dictionary entries than goldstein
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4387 @ 0.000105 = 0.4606 BTC [+]
mike_c: whoa. that was a significant chunk of s.nsa float. 7%
mike_c: is that a 1984 reference? nice.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [+]
deadweasel: pankkake, just caught up, can't believe it kept going...
pankkake: haven't yet
bloctoc: I just saw the branson thing. reminds me of a pic I saw a while ago of Branson kit surfing with a young naked woman on his back.
bloctoc: qi=2&ved=0CDIQ9QEwAg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+]
deadweasel: I guess I should have realized NSFW
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema gradina edenului
gribble: Titu Maiorescu şi filosofia modernă - Gh. Zane: <http://www.ices.ro/symposion/arhiva/symposion_08_2_2006.pdf>
ozbot: NSFW Gradina Edenului pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: me:branson 4:1.
bloctoc: all I could see was paywall
bloctoc: s.mg has some nice depth all of a sudden. Thank you rich dude!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i recall the times 1k btc didn't make one rich
deadweasel: i still recall those times.
deadweasel: as the present.
tarmi: and future
deadweasel: for me, yes.
mircea_popescu: there's no future in 1k btc poverty.
mircea_popescu: sell nao.
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
mircea_popescu: finally they've managed to work themselves to the actual ideological disagreement in question.
tarmi: there is no future, period
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
benkay_: i got stopped cold in my tracks talking about the cardano last night
benkay_: question was "how open source is it?" and i completely dead-ended because how with a thing like the cardano is one supposed to a) get an idea of the code on the device, much less b) actually validate that code is there?
mircea_popescu: you can read the card with a reader
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.39 = 3.51 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00419999 = 0.1176 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: PicoStocks, bitcoin stock exchange
mircea_popescu: picoscams, always good for a lol.
benkay_: so the cardano has a card reader built in, on which the code for the device is loaded?
mircea_popescu: benkay_ : well no, it uses a flash
mircea_popescu: B) Cardano’s firmware. This is a socketed antifuse (OTP) ROM which is unique to your unit and is engraved with the latter’s serial number. If desired, it can be read on a common instrument sold for this purpose and its contents checksummed or otherwise perused. The checksum of your firmware ROM is printed on the bottom of the chassis, under the unit’s serial number. For your safety, this ROM is non-reprogrammable
mircea_popescu: . Please contact us for upgrades.
ozbot: S.NSA first product - The Cardano pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
benkay_: and the software that performs decryption/signatures? open for inspection?
mircea_popescu: this'd be the firmware.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3650 @ 0.00066 = 2.409 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1486 @ 0.00066 = 0.9808 BTC [+] {5}
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 14850 @ 0.00066 = 9.801 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 451 @ 0.00066 = 0.2977 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: i feel we need a channel mascot girl, who could moon for us.
benkay_: implying firmware on device will be unobfuscated?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00066 = 0.99 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: So AM 28nm tape out in 2mos
mircea_popescu: afaik there's no plans to obfuscate it.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves bet you against that ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 110 @ 0.41201619 = 45.3218 BTC [+] {15}
ThickAsThieves: its hard NOT to bet against miners
ThickAsThieves: but how do you resolve a tape out bet
ThickAsThieves: probly need to wait
ThickAsThieves: make the bet like AM ships gen3 products before Mar 20
mircea_popescu: i wonder if mining manufacturers are by now screening their released copy to bitbetproof it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 54 @ 0.45212961 = 24.415 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.004199 = 0.1008 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how about april 1st ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00419905 = 0.3359 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: nah, thats when mtgox adds litecoin remember
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 650 @ 0.00066 = 0.429 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00380101 = 0.1064 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 521 @ 0.00066 = 0.3439 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 246 @ 0.00419989 = 1.0332 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 6000 @ 0.00066 = 3.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 158 @ 0.0042853 = 0.6771 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.22899999 BTC [-]
benkay: mircea_popescu: will cardano code be available for inspection?
mircea_popescu: didn't i just say that ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 450 @ 0.00066 = 0.297 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.49007499 = 5.8809 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 733 @ 0.00066 = 0.4838 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00420347 = 0.2186 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.040625 = 0.325 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.04099997 = 0.492 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: not in as dumb words as i need
benkay: hard experience has taught me to keep asking questions until the implicit answers match the explicit ones
mircea_popescu: i don't see how a blackbox item would be useful or practical.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.46033333 = 9.667 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00424909 = 0.4249 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: and i'd rather be seen as an idiot than not ask questions and get fried for it later
benkay: nor i
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.46 = 15.64 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 200 @ 0.00066 = 0.132 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: now, you will need a rom reader, and the ability to grok microcode,
mircea_popescu: but still.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1349 @ 0.00425231 = 5.7364 BTC [+] {4}
benkay: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1827 @ 0.00066 = 1.2058 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00449974 = 0.153 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: and the microcode will be stashed and signed somewhere on mpex/nosuchlabs for comparison to the devices?
mircea_popescu: dawg you refuse to read ? "If desired, it can be read on a common instrument sold for this purpose and its contents checksummed or otherwise perused. The checksum of your firmware ROM is printed on the bottom of the chassis, under the unit’s serial number"
benkay: i'm doublechecking that that's the only way to get it!
mircea_popescu: so basically, a rom reader is like hm lets see
mircea_popescu: like 15 bux ?
mircea_popescu: if you run linux you can hash the code for free, compare to what's printed on the thing.
mircea_popescu: if you find a difference we damn well wish to hear about it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.124975 = 0.4999 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: i'm still wrapping my head around the mircea_popescu policy approach to things
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.487 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: how you mean ?
benkay: well american approach is to hold hands for customers
benkay: mircea_popescu approach is more like "fu learn tools"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1600 @ 0.00066 = 1.056 BTC [+]
tarmi: well, at least, you can learn something
mircea_popescu: basically it induces a lot of uncertainty on your end, as in, you're not even sure what words mean so multiple restatements are actually beneficial because they'd expose errors ?
mircea_popescu: i can see this argument.
benkay: yeah i generally can't english
mircea_popescu: well, the best advice being, don't go ordering 1k units out of the gate :)
mircea_popescu: get one, see if you like it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 14870 @ 0.00066 = 9.8142 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and if all you ever wanted was one, then let the bigger fishes get their prototypes first see if they like it.
mircea_popescu: hm. who'd have thunk it, this actually makes MORE sense of retail.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00403392 = 0.1129 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: holding off carries added bonus of maybe reaping benefits of large batch production efficiencies, although i imagine a large fraction of that'll be captured by nsa itself
mircea_popescu: also carries the risk we just go sorry, production discontinued
mircea_popescu: you know, just like irl, early adopter risk/reward vs late adopter.
mircea_popescu: anyway benkay you've inspired me to write an article here.
mircea_popescu: this is deep stuff.
benkay: nooooo
mircea_popescu: nono, it's good.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1702 @ 0.00066 = 1.1233 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i feel like i've learned.
benkay: for the first time since late nineties i'm using this handle in public and my record is going to forever be "i bitcoins derp gpg derp wat asic derp quantum!"
benkay: forever
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 20399 @ 0.00066 = 13.4633 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00469 = 0.3142 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: maybe you'll end up a saint.
benkay: wandering from bitcoin enclave to bitcoin enclave barefoot in a robe
mike_c: if that's the worst thing that happens as you learn you are better off then a lot of people (like me) who have to learn by repeatedly making costly financially errors.
mircea_popescu: mike_c what's your worst ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.48866666 = 2.932 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.00066 = 0.165 BTC [+]
benkay: mike_c: why do you think the robe and barefoot?
mike_c: hehe
mike_c: my worst lost?
mike_c: *loss? well, the most recent was a few weeks ago when i sold those C200T options :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46033333 = 1.381 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: right into the bubble! nice move! good for ~16 btc down.
deadweasel: mike_c, I got Lyme disease, arthritic symptoms so bad I couldn't hit the clutch on my truck, traded in and up for 4runner, sold my last bitcoins at ...... dun dun dun
deadweasel: to say nothing of the psychological effects I was suffering.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 77606 @ 0.00066 = 51.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: was that you that day? when you quit bitcoin in IRC and went like "that's it, i'm out!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.00066 = 6.6 BTC [+]
mike_c: deadweasel: ouch. luckily, we are all in early enough to recover from our mistakes.
deadweasel: I'd like to think so. :)
deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: could be, psychological effects of spirochetes boring throuhg your brain can be quite dramatic.
deadweasel: in fact, my entire personality could be teh product of parasites, who knows.
deadweasel: american doctors certainly don't.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.488 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.125005 = 0.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 441 @ 0.00066 = 0.2911 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00468625 = 0.1125 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: re: hot coffee. i took a biz law class once, and this lawyer came in and convinced us all that the mcdonalds coffee woman was correct. it was impressive.
benkay: daww what are you doing capitalizing my shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 88501 @ 0.00066 = 58.4107 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: mike_c i can convince you of anything you want.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't really mean so much
benkay: mircea_popescu: youtube link not so much?
mircea_popescu: i hate youtube. tjhey keep taking vids off
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 356 @ 0.00066 = 0.235 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: then i end up with linkrot
mike_c: argument is this: 1) 170 degree coffee is blazing hot enough for anyone. 2) mcdonalds deliberately made their coffee 180 degree so they could advertise "we have hottest coffee" 3) this was irresponsible and caused big harm (woman burned uterus and couldn't have kids)
mike_c: better stated of course by slick lawyer
mircea_popescu: except "irresponsible" is an undefined symbol ready to take any content, and what woman did to herself is her damned problem
mircea_popescu: who says what is "enough for anyone" ?
mike_c: he made a good analogy to paint stripper
deadweasel: Actually, it was determined that they pushed the extra 10-20 degrees because the smell carried an extra few blocks, bringing in more customers.
mircea_popescu: mike_c let's hear it
deadweasel: as I learned it
mike_c: how paint stripper works at 170 parts per million, but company kept pushing the content for advertising "strongest", even though they know people open their paint stripper with a screwdriver and will sometimes spill it on themselves.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel someone deriving a benefit from their activity does not immediately create a right to realocation towards random bystanders.
mircea_popescu: mike_c "they know" is irrelevant. they don't give a shit.
mircea_popescu: nor should they. not their job to "know"?
mircea_popescu: 't want apple telling me how to "safely" use my computer,
deadweasel: you do if it's filled with lava.
mircea_popescu: and it's not paint stripper's maker's job to "know" what i do with it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1006 @ 0.00066 = 0.664 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.18705001 = 0.5612 BTC [-]
deadweasel: i mean, at least read the manual for the lava apple pc
deadweasel: Powered by Lava
mike_c: reverse side is that they were solely making it stronger (and more dangerous) to increase their marketing effectiveness. seems this behavior should be curbed by someone.
asciilifeform: i still don't get it. coffee is 100C at STP, max.
asciilifeform: no way around it.
mike_c: 170, 180F
mircea_popescu: mike_c yes. by THE MARKET.
tarmi: why would anyone drink coffee at mcdonalds? thats the worst coffee I have ever tried
mircea_popescu: maybe i was driving all across town for the 180f coffee cause my cock liked the temp.
mircea_popescu: now i can't have it cause retard woman ? fuck that.
mike_c: but NOBODY wanted 180 degree coffee
mircea_popescu: maybe the stronger paint stripper cleans my bath tub just perfect.
deadweasel: sue for your chilled cock
abillionhorses: Will anyone here sell me their ActiveMining shares?
mircea_popescu: mike_c what's this, you either sue or don't exist ?
mircea_popescu: great for lawyers.
mike_c: that's the point. it was not for the benefit of ANY consumer
mike_c: just the company marketing campaign
mircea_popescu: how in the heck did your slick lawyer prove the negative ?
mike_c: slick lawyers don't have to prove, just convince.
mircea_popescu: still. a negative can never be a basis here.
mircea_popescu: benkay try youtue link nao.
mike_c: not a negative if mcdonalds admits it was not for customer benefit
mircea_popescu: macdonalds' have to be incredibly poorly counselled to do that.
mircea_popescu: seeing how it can't be a fact, no matter who claims it
mike_c: or careless and 'admitted' it in internal memos, etc.
mircea_popescu: so why make claims with no factual basis that are also against your economic interest.
mircea_popescu: internal memos. pshhh.
mircea_popescu: the classical case of the "internal memos" bs is the ford pinto.
mircea_popescu: it turned out that the "internal memos" were not either internal or memos. regulator mandated.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18705001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1379 @ 0.00066 = 0.9101 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a fun story : one summer @seaside i dug thriough so much sand to make castles i separated the quick of my nail, and infection bred.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1012 @ 0.00066 = 0.6679 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.033 = 0.264 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: alcohol did nothing, rivanol did nothing, eventually my mother heated water to boiling and i stuck my finger in there repeatedly.
mircea_popescu: she couldn't quite believe it, but by the next day my nail was fine.
abillionhorses: that woman that spilled hot coffee on herself from mcdonalds actually skalded herself and had to get skin graphs etc and it was an older woman...she had a lot of reasons to sew actually
abillionhorses: sue...lol
mircea_popescu: abillionhorses need does not constitute a basis here.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2629 @ 0.00066 = 1.7351 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18705001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4953 @ 0.0007725 = 3.8262 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.032734 = 0.1637 BTC [-] {3}
abillionhorses: whats that supposed to mean
mircea_popescu: it means that it makes no difference how much trouble the woman got herself into.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18705001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3475 @ 0.00066 = 2.2935 BTC [+]
abillionhorses: haha ok well 180 is a little hot for coffee imo...she deserved to win against MCYD's
abillionhorses: but i get your point
abillionhorses: Anyone selling their ActiveMining shares I can buy?
deadweasel: She would have to be aware that the coffee was 180 to 'get herself into trouble'
mircea_popescu: i have no problem with you rooting for the underdog, as you perceive it.
deadweasel: was she made aware?
ThickAsThieves: why do you want ActM shares?
mircea_popescu: deadweasel perhaps that's an argument there. in the end, you can sell dangerous mushrooms in europe as long as you give people insteructions on how to properly cook them
ThickAsThieves: do they even exist anymore?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 999 @ 0.00066 = 0.6593 BTC [+]
abillionhorses: its not about rooting for underdog, its the fact that most people dont expect their coffee to be 180, so when it is...and it spills on an older woman causing her to have to get surgery...yes there prob should be a suite
abillionhorses: lol at TAT
ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction 1c12443203a48f42cdf7b1acee5b4b1c1fedc144cb909a3bf5edbffafb0cd204
ThickAsThieves: sew a suite
abillionhorses: of course they do
abillionhorses: suite lol god dammit my spelling is terrible today
ThickAsThieves: lol the tx says "Shit load of money!"
dexX7: a redditor labeled it
mike_c: gotta love that the fees for transferring over $100m was zero.
mircea_popescu: old coinbase.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1435 @ 0.00010197 = 0.1463 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.18705001 = 0.3741 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00066 = 0.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.48789999 = 1.9516 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18705001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00455 = 0.5278 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00469 = 0.469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.489 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.498 = 1.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.49966666 = 1.499 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.00469 = 0.6988 BTC [+] {2}
tulak_: good evening ladies
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0047 = 0.376 BTC [+] {2}
deadweasel: howdy tulak_
tulak_: pretty retarded day deadweasel
tulak_: i had to rush-install 6 laptops
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0047 = 0.329 BTC [+]
deadweasel: fucking lame. tulak_
deadweasel: better than breaking rocks though... maybe. could b eargued.
tulak_: i have this job at my university
tulak_: quitting at the end of the year tho
ystarnaud: lol wtf
mircea_popescu: irl tits. never what you hoped for.
ystarnaud: haha i'd say
ystarnaud: harsh reality of life
tulak_: mircea_popescu: the prophet of truth
deadweasel: protesting mammary support devices.
mircea_popescu: maybe this is why nigerians scam.
abillionhorses: i need more mammary in my computer....oh thx for pix
tulak_: mgio made me pick up java once again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0047 = 0.188 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 172 @ 0.00066 = 0.1135 BTC [+] {2}
tulak_: so this thread is helpful after being 2 hours in it
tulak_: thread=channel
mircea_popescu: java is evil.
tulak_: well
tulak_: I am a Sith, so java is just fine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 296 @ 0.00066 = 0.1954 BTC [+]
tulak_: someone be a scam-spotter: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338379.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 200 @ 0.00066 = 0.132 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: just some bot.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.461 = 1.383 BTC [-]
tulak_: primedice has a bot functionality already
tulak_: why create a bot and charge money? is this what people call capitalism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 60 @ 0.18391053 = 11.0346 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0047 = 0.1034 BTC [+]
deadweasel: it's so surreal...
deadweasel: .If his (the customer) life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him - what gives him the right to think that it's okay to just shoot someone?. said the relative. .You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 6635 @ 0.00066 = 4.3791 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2100 @ 0.00066 = 1.386 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: adric white is black ?!
mircea_popescu: shocking.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00469 = 0.2345 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00469 = 0.1876 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.49914285 = 6.988 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.4999 = 4.999 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00066 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 28 @ 0.0399 = 1.1172 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.495 = 0.99 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 700 @ 0.00066 = 0.462 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 6766 @ 0.00066 = 4.4656 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 152 @ 0.00066 = 0.1003 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00450609 = 0.1036 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.529999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.53 = 14.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.5425 = 4.34 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.00469999 = 0.3713 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.5650015 = 2.26 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 9773 @ 0.00066 = 6.4502 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 185 @ 0.00469994 = 0.8695 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00066 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.0399 = 0.3591 BTC [+]
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: do you continue the am100 <> am1 exchange or is it over now?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00066 = 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3000 @ 0.00066 = 1.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1882 @ 0.00066 = 1.2421 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2000 @ 0.00473714 = 9.4743 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.0007725 = 12.6304 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0049 = 0.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00499795 = 0.3698 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.5178111 = 4.6603 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.005 = 0.135 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Book your flights on CheapAir with Bitcoin virtual currency | CheapAir
mircea_popescu: cheapair ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3000 @ 0.00066 = 1.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.00066 = 0.165 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 841 @ 0.00066 = 0.5551 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.04329397 = 4.3294 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00503622 = 0.277 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.54727999 = 2.7364 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 9043 @ 0.00066 = 5.9684 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0051 = 0.1428 BTC [+]
ozbot: BitBet - Super Bowl coin toss will be "heads"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0051 = 0.1683 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00201001 = 0.1206 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00201001 = 0.3015 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.55 = 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00509847 = 0.2549 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 200 @ 0.00066 = 0.132 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1900 @ 0.00066 = 1.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5908 @ 0.00066 = 3.8993 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.58 = 10.44 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: same goes for pankkake.
kakobrekla: and deadweasel ofc, but we know him from before.
mike_c: i like how he posts links to monthly reports as proof of stealing. because of course all thieves publish monthly reports detailing their crimes.
kakobrekla: gotta keep the crime record clean
TomServo: "They hide this policy in there FAQ" (Here's a handy link)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.005101 = 0.1785 BTC [+]
ozbot: China Announces That It Is Going To Stop Stockpiling U.S. Dollars | MND - Your Daily Dose of Counter
pankkake: does it mention dollars specifically or any other currencies?
jurov`: afaik but china was not hoarding other currencies far so much
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0052 = 0.104 BTC [+]
jurov`: "crude oil futures may soon be priced in yuan on the Shanghai Futures Exchange"
jefito: china obv tired of petrodollar
jefito: multi pronged usd attack
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20154 @ 0.00077401 = 15.5994 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.582889 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol scammors
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00539 = 0.4582 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: these people are so retarded. so if i hire a different mpoe-pr each month basically i can keep scamming indefinitely, provided i was bfl and actually did exactly that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.0007792 = 11.0646 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: how fucking derpy.
mircea_popescu: then they wonder why republic not democracy and no voting by idiots allowed.
deadweasel: but my feeeeelings!
kakobrekla: juj pankkake you shouldnt have tell him/them the funny part!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla honestly i don't think it makes a difference.
pankkake: removing
pankkake: the funniest part of the gold thread is that the guy added a POLL to it
mike_c: how is mpex market maker bot working? gribble & bitcoincharts are still hosed.
mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58289999 BTC [+]
mike_c: hah. nvm. it just turned off
mike_c: er, now its back.
mircea_popescu: you know, the one thing missing in the mix is joel katzx
mircea_popescu: mike_c possibly old data ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58289999 = 1.7487 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: alternatively, bot might have gotten a lucky shot in
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.18704059 = 0.3741 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 885 @ 0.000122 = 0.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00066 = 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18704059 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00543 = 0.3258 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00544 = 0.3536 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this is the birthplace of the much coveted cherry truck award. quite the gem.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18705 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
ozbot: Banking software issues *RESOLVED* - Bitstamp
dexX7: i remember this guy ... https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691 and actually send him even a step by step tutorial how he can rebroadcast his tx with a fee :S
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.094875 = 0.5693 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09010091 = 0.1802 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dexX7 unlikely he had another 10 btc in the first place, and moreover he didn't send from an address he controlled
mircea_popescu: jurov` so it was they stopped payments too huh ?
dexX7: ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.0852798 = 1.0234 BTC [-] {6}
jurov`: yes some ppl had to wait since monday
mircea_popescu: only took like 12 hours. considering the 0 fees i would call this admirable.
mircea_popescu: if only the person had the decency to bet 12 hours before the 750 was crossed, rather than 12 minutesd or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 45613 @ 0.000105 = 4.7894 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58 = 1.16 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the conspiraci thickens.
kakobrekla: hahahaha
kakobrekla: so it DID make a difference.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: only because of milky shenanigans
kakobrekla: i win.
mircea_popescu: can't believe dood STILL hasn't read stuff like the bitbet contract.
kakobrekla: shhhhs
mircea_popescu: i mean, carelessly sending some btc, okay. you don't have the time, you don't care, you don't know shit exists, all is fine.
mircea_popescu: but then spending two days whining about it under mpoe-pr's rain of arrows, and she actually links you to it, and you still don't read it...
mircea_popescu: this degree of intellectual laziness is unexplainable outside of it being the product of the us educational system.
pankkake: nooo MPOE-PR
mircea_popescu: what she do ?
pankkake: exposed us
pankkake: and that cancels my evil plan
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 687004394.262 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 270980 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 1179 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: this supernode is too strong to be easily deterred. you'll have plenty more evil plan opportunities something tells me
pankkake: let's see if someone finds out
mircea_popescu: pankkake da fuck is icedice
pankkake: just-dice clone
pankkake: just reflink whoring
mircea_popescu: you running it ?
jefito: it's all bitbet's fault because someone didn't include a tx fee and their txn went unnoticed, eh
pankkake: it's not especially groundbreaking, I actually removed my coins so it doesn't make me anything
jefito: yeah i'd whine and cry and try to blame someone for that stupid fuck up too
jefito: until nothing happened
thestringpuller: there should be a website to vote on the code that goes into bitcoin
thestringpuller: github is lame
ThickAsThieves: its called reddit
pankkake: vote?
kakobrekla: like you understand what code does?
ThickAsThieves: they make all the big decisions
thestringpuller: reddit votes on the code going into bitcoin
mircea_popescu: the spic's sarcastic humour is maturing nicely i feel
kakobrekla: i vote when ill take a dump, so what
pankkake: git, the actual tool that makes github useful, makes it very easy to vote for yourself
asciilifeform: here's an even better idea: vote on chess moves! who needs champions when you've got reddit. no need for the voters to know how to play! 'wisdom of crowds!'
asciilifeform: (stole this one from moldbug)
mircea_popescu: o yeah, that's some kind of chess i could possibly win
thestringpuller: exactly!
ThickAsThieves: crowdwisdom, i like it
ThickAsThieves: we could make whole governments this way
mircea_popescu: it could be abbreviated to wdw
kakobrekla: "well done world?"
mircea_popescu: sure. or woodrow wilson or w/e
ozbot: ASICMINER Speculation Thread
jefito: surek for xo boxen
mircea_popescu: what already ?
jefito: wtf
mircea_popescu: pankkake didn;'t he say 0.25 gh/w ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00066 = 1.65 BTC [+]
pankkake: " <0.2W per G"
thestringpuller: 1.21 gh/w ?
pankkake: so that's actually 0.2w/gh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0057 = 0.114 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: so therefore 4Gh per w is generous
mircea_popescu: ashould have been 5
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00569999 = 0.114 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : "The molecular nanotechnology we have, life, is built on low-energy bonds and runs in a wet environment with a very high error rate. Diamondoid nanotech is built on high-energy bonds, runs (at least for manufacturing) in hard vacuum, and depends on a very low error rate - errors will cascade like crazy." this is a surprisingly cogent point.
mircea_popescu: i don't think nanotech has a prayer in hell for the exact same reasons.
mircea_popescu: you're more likely to enjoyably fuck alabaster women.
asciilifeform: 'nanotech' is a mostly empty 'marketing word.'
mircea_popescu: even conceptually, if one tried to so salvage it.
mircea_popescu: nobody seems to understand that in order to exist, the gray slime needs to be rather nonuniform.
asciilifeform: you'll find it referring to perfectly ordinary things (microscopic mirrors in everybody's movie projector) to total crackpottery (robotic maxwell's daemons, etc.)
mircea_popescu: (which makes it much less threatening, which is why they don't want to understand it)
pankkake: so what happens to the AM bet?
mircea_popescu: nothing ? you see a problem with it ?
pankkake: aren't the specs incorrect?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.54 = 2.7 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see friedcat claimed 5 Gh/W and the bet only asks for 4
mircea_popescu: so they're incorrect in the sense they err the right way.
pankkake: ooh, I need to understand units
mircea_popescu: whatever, if he delivers 4.8 a la bitfury i'd rather the bet be clear.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53000003 BTC [-]
mike_c: all you have to do is go post something positive about bitbet in that thread. snackman will put you in the club.
mike_c: he runs it after all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.00550246 = 0.4182 BTC [-] {5}
pankkake: is PR a second life DJ?
mircea_popescu: anyone taking bets on whether he has a nervous breakdown and disappears rather than breaks down and admits he fucked up ?
pankkake: it's what usually happens
mircea_popescu: well which one
pankkake: oh, disappearing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.07 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: yeah this will need handicapping
ThickAsThieves: random thought, what are ripples worth these days?
ThickAsThieves: i remember selling mine for 7btc or so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.002 = 0.22 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: ;;seen benkay
gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 21 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <benkay> mircea_popescu: youtube link not so much?
pankkake: much lower
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves a cent each or w/e
pankkake: not that it is surprising since give you can many of them just for having a github account
pankkake: or a bitcointalk account (with signup date requirements)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.53000009 = 4.24 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: hard to compete with free
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00543558 = 0.2555 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0054 = 0.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 28536 @ 0.00066 = 18.8338 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake i have no idea what the second life dj thing is about
mircea_popescu: girl's never played she says.
pankkake: I thought he had better stalking skills than me. I am relieved
mircea_popescu: who knows what random people are being sent random unconfirmed zero fee emails full of bile
mircea_popescu: on account of there being people with electricity they didn't pay for and computers their society got them for free, bored and otherwise unemployed towards any useful purpose.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53000002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 190 @ 0.00066 = 0.1254 BTC [+]
pankkake: oh he's the one who wrote "I expect MP was abandoned as a child and this is how s/he gets back at the world." earlier
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
mircea_popescu: pankkake they're looking for siomething more like mem's list.
mircea_popescu: or w/e that other similar idiocy was
pankkake: I don't know what that is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.075 = 0.525 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: some kid made a list of good and bad gambling sites to enforce his notions that i am racist and satoshi dice is bad.
mircea_popescu: the thing was amusing for a coupla days and that's the last i recall of it
pankkake: oh, plenty of those lists. mostly by site operators sockpuppets
pankkake: including one who went ponzi, oops
jurov`: what boggles me that nobody there labeled you chauvinist.. prolly they dont read trilema
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
mircea_popescu: she has it, pretty much.
mircea_popescu: jurov` i don't think they know what it means.
mircea_popescu: chauvinist is a big word among 20something lonely unshaven feminists.
mircea_popescu: these are 20 something lonely fat dorks. different bad words.
mircea_popescu: which is why all the child pornography nonsense
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.04559979 = 0.912 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 30 @ 0.06322694 = 1.8968 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0054 = 0.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3000 @ 0.00066 = 1.98 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.04559979 = 0.5928 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: why chauvinist? I don't follow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.18705 = 1.8705 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.53166666 = 1.595 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.53 = 1.06 BTC [-]
Guest41620: I sent you money in a way you didn't want me to, and in a way you can't refuse. Give it back :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.11548996 = 1.1549 BTC [+] {4}
pankkake: in a few years faucet operators will want their money back
Guest90914: bah, identify
mircea_popescu: mike_c holy shit the guy was actually late ?!
mircea_popescu: this is riotous.
mike_c: he claims he initiated the transfer before then
mike_c: but there is no evidence of that
pankkake: there's not even evidence that it's his tx
mircea_popescu: this is official, way to go make a complete fool of oneself.
mircea_popescu: it's up there with the tortilla.
mircea_popescu: if only i had known when i put that policy in that it will serve so shiningly well.
pankkake: well, I still think a softer fee approach would be better. instead of 1% refund and 100% oops, do 20% for both
mircea_popescu: pankkake nah, bets can be cancelled for all sorts of reasons,
pankkake: if his bet would have been sent with a tx fee, it would only be 1%
mircea_popescu: many of which not imputable to the bettor
pankkake: I guess
mircea_popescu: pankkake nah, he sent it late. even with a 10 btc fee it'd have been confiscated.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.12568 = 0.6284 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: if he had sent it 12 hours earlier however it'd have been fine
jurov`: pankkake: "male chauvinism" says you something?
mircea_popescu: course, he didn't WANT TO sent it 12 hours later, because he's nobody's fool.
pankkake: jurov`: I only knew chauvinism as patriotism
pankkake: no but I mean, if he wanted to bet after the fact, and it got included, say, 10 min after the fact
pankkake: the bet would not be closed
mircea_popescu: this is true
pankkake: and he would get refunded with 1% fee
pankkake: and I think those cases should have a higher fee
mircea_popescu: perhaps, but we're running into clerical complications
pankkake: but it depends, sometimes the better genuinly doesn't know…
mircea_popescu: the correct way is to have the bets close as close to actual time as possible
mircea_popescu: anyway, 100% is clean. any other value is "why not less ?"
mircea_popescu: 1% is equal to the rake, so that's stable.
mircea_popescu: and tbh i'dmuch rather one guy get hit for 100% once a year, go berserk and thus warn all other wannabe scumfaces,
mircea_popescu: than it being a constant occurence.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.12724 = 1.2724 BTC [+] {3}
smickles: wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar)
mircea_popescu: i dunno but some people like doing that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.512 = 2.56 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00548879 = 0.1537 BTC [+]
mike_c: fwiw, when you run a gambling operation you need to be draconian and ruthless. Not cry over stupid gamblers. This is why mp is better suited to run a gambling operation than dooglus.
ozbot: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 188 @ 0.00066 = 0.1241 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.50255 = 1.0051 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 47221 @ 0.00066 = 31.1659 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.49 = 1.96 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: you want to know the best part? snackman will continue to bet on bitbet in a desperate attempt to get his money back.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: maybe it works out for him and he gains englightment.
mircea_popescu: definitely a bunch of bets that are (or at least seem to me) out of odds. if he actually sits down and figures shit out he's prolly +ev
mike_c: hahah. lolz
mike_c: he couldn't even sit down and read the faq
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00509166 = 0.1629 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: this being after all the one reason parimutuel rules. pretty much the only place you can consistently get +ev if you're using the head.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ya well... 7:1 or something :p
kakobrekla: given your bets are not tamperd with.
mircea_popescu: who tampers with bets ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4502 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: you know, the bitcointalk downtime.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.45010001 = 1.3503 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.4500109 = 16.6504 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00468005 = 0.4025 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 211 @ 0.0046805 = 0.9876 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 295 @ 0.00468 = 1.3806 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: propositions, different thing!
kakobrekla: yea yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 144 @ 0.00453563 = 0.6531 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4501 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.00066 = 0.165 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.004389 = 0.1492 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
BigBitz: Wow... BitBet and the 10BTC incident. lol. Brutal.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.045589 = 0.3191 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BigBitz at least it keeps bitcoin price up.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.002009 = 0.2572 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.18705001 = 0.9353 BTC [+]
ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction 1c12443203a48f42cdf7b1acee5b4b1c1fedc144cb909a3bf5edbffafb0cd204
jborkl: you see that Mircea
mircea_popescu: jborkl yea ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
jborkl: 194000 BTC
jborkl: I like how blockchain tagged it shitloadofmoney
mircea_popescu: afaik anyone can tag an addy
jborkl: ah, didn't know that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.49947499 = 1.9979 BTC [+] {3}
Apocalyptic: yep mircea
ozbot: BitBet - And Then There Was One
mircea_popescu: ppl make bets, then my ego gets called into question.
mircea_popescu: woe is me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, is Kodric the guy running Bitstamp ?
mircea_popescu: possibly
Apocalyptic: damn, didn't expect him to answer support tickets
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how long before bitbet broker springs up, dedicated to making bets for noobs in a safe and pleasant fashion.
kakobrekla: make a bet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5005 @ 0.00066 = 3.3033 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: no cause my ego.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00077931 = 5.7669 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 24 yo, south philly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00201136 = 0.1368 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.0020929 = 0.427 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.460105 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.460105 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00409 = 0.1513 BTC [-]
BigBitz: Apocalyptic he runs it with some of his friends.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0041 = 0.2993 BTC [+]
BigBitz: all local guys.
BigBitz: noone out side of Slovenia and noone he doesn't know personally.
Apocalyptic: ok good to know
BigBitz: in regards to Nejc.
BigBitz: I spoke to him at BTC London. He's a nice dude.
jurov`: lol bitbet broker.. does it have an API?
mircea_popescu: kako is working on json yeah
mircea_popescu: it doesn't really need more than that, addies are automatic.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46100001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.0041 = 0.4592 BTC [+]
benkay: mircea_popescu we demand accounts on bitbet
benkay: and zero-conf bet funding
jurov`: myeah, without password you don't feel secure enough
mircea_popescu: you can type a password in the search field at the start of each session.
mircea_popescu: it's very safe, can never be lost to hackers etc.
benkay: will you also set up 2fa cardano on my electrum wallet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0041 = 0.1886 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker havelock am1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.38800000 / 0.45779031 / 0.58289999 (586 shares, 268.26512301 BTC), 7D: 0.23500000 / 0.44204528 / 0.63280000 (2526 shares, 1116.60636764 BTC), 30D: 0.23500000 / 0.60374745 / 1.06000000 (6944 shares, 4192.42229083 BTC)
thestringpuller: daman son
thestringpuller: daaayyumn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.0007792 = 4.5973 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 380 @ 0.00066 = 0.2508 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;seen mod6
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 17 hours, 59 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mod6> i like the article mp
ozbot: Are They All Scams?
deadweasel: love them titties PR
mike_c: whatever you are paying her to hang out in the den of retardation all day - it's not enough.
deadweasel: i'm sure it is,.
deadweasel: he should pay her more and have her hang out here too :P
jurov`: in some mpoe report her salary was disclosed
pankkake: French subforum is very depressing right now
pankkake: sooo many users that are just going to get burned
jurov`: 30BTC or so montly?
deadweasel: crikey, I don't wanna know, I'll be depressed either way
deadweasel: too late
mircea_popescu: jurov` in all of them. she's making more than a us senator atm.
jurov`: ^^^
deadweasel: lovely, every sataoshi well spent
mike_c: even a us senator doesn't have to put up with that level of stupidity
mircea_popescu: mike_c depends if he sleeps at home.
jurov`: lol
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1479454/plain/)
jurov`: !bash 3
mike_c: 12 btc a month. worth every satoshi.
pankkake: (translated) "if you buy bitcoins to speculate, you should know that 1 btc is divisible by 8 decimals, so it won't be worth much"
thestringpuller: hahahaha
jurov`: rofl
pankkake: many French noobs want to buy litecoin it seems (but they barely understand what is a bitcoin address)
pankkake: some full of spelling errors wanted to buy litecoins with paypal
pankkake: they also mispell it litcoin
pankkake: well, litecoin pump and dump incoming? you read it here first!
mircea_popescu: litcoin. so they wanna buy it cause they figure it gets girls ?
pankkake: I read a lot of books, I don't have a girl. doesn't work
Apocalyptic: that moment when you generate a new address and it starts with "1PHP"
pankkake: the moment you try to find out if you can remove an address? :)
deadweasel: how long bitbet around now?
pankkake: with altcoins you can do funnier stuff. I have Penis, PENiS and ANUS
deadweasel: you have two cocks?1
mircea_popescu: deadweasel about a year.
deadweasel: Mp, put this man in a moving picture!
pankkake: if only! I don't understand why we are not born that way
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't want two cox
pankkake: why do females have two holes? doesn't make sense
pankkake: perhaps god meant for us to be gay
jurov`: S.BBET says Listed on : January 5, 2013
jurov`: pankkake: how does that follow?
jurov`: some french logic?
mircea_popescu: females have three holes.
pankkake: well, I'll need a third very flexible cock
deadweasel: females have throat cancer from the hpv i game them, according this article...
pankkake: and/or be a tentacle monster
mircea_popescu: you can't give them hpv throat cancer
mircea_popescu: only they can give it to you
deadweasel: snackman
mircea_popescu: i read it in a douglas book
deadweasel: well shit, damn cunts
mircea_popescu: A woman screams because a mouse has run over her face. Bedbugs drop from the higher bunks onto the lower. Another woman screams because the little boy in the bunk above her has spilled the jam jar he uses as a chamber pot all over her. Somebody has whooping cough. Another little boy begs his mother not to beat him because in his sleep he wet the bunk he shares with her. She does and he squeals. A former night-club danc
mircea_popescu: er tells dirty stories about her ex-colleagues to the refined Orthodox language teacher, who does not know whether to block her ears or to laugh. A spoilt rich wife has hung her clothes on all available nails, leaving no room for anybody else. The passage ends with: "In 24 out of 24 hours there is never a minute's silence ...
mircea_popescu: this could be like... our motto.
deadweasel: does it fit in the top?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46100008 = 1.383 BTC [+] {2}
deadweasel: words broken... topic.
mircea_popescu: nah, it can be the secret motto noobs don't know about
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.45611 = 9.1222 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.18705001 = 0.3741 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0041 = 0.1394 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00404031 = 0.6182 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0040211 = 0.2131 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1003 @ 0.00066 = 0.662 BTC [+]
pankkake: so the trick was that the address https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343150.msg3678584#msg3678584 was's obama on AssMarket. but no one bothered to google it :/
mircea_popescu: what's assmarket ?
pankkake: assassination market
pankkake: yeah, bad taste
thestringpuller: gpg assassination contracts
thestringpuller: trilema 2.0
asciilifeform: here's an idea: humiliation market. anyone who gets pie on the face of the victim wins the bounty.
asciilifeform: humane.
pankkake: I'm sure Noël Godin takes donation
asciilifeform: (other humiliations, such as the dummy grenade thrown at mr. bush, could also count.)
pankkake: bill gates sued him but thankfully it didn't cost much
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol.
asciilifeform: the exact type of humiliation, naturally, must be specified in advance.
pankkake: oh, it's Public Disgrace. I thought public-shame would be another one
asciilifeform: ones that require the subject to be hog-tied in a garret will naturally cost more than a mere splat.
pankkake: pie in the face works really well. it made our fakeosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy MAD
thestringpuller: taser handshake
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10151 @ 0.00066 = 6.6997 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00077931 = 1.8703 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.450275 = 18.011 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.45 = 11.7 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: primes, primes primes
pankkake: very interesting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.45 = 2.25 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: prime numbers are awesome
thestringpuller: especially big ones
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 306 @ 0.00066 = 0.202 BTC [+]
pankkake: bigger numbers are always better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2727 @ 0.00066 = 1.7998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.45 = 11.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.425 = 4.25 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: gribble down?
thestringpuller: ;;gribble
gribble: yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
pankkake: ;;gribble <3
gribble: yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?
pankkake: ;;market sell 9000
gribble: A market order to sell 9000 bitcoins right now would net 6347963.2698 USD and would take the last price down to 632.2288 USD, resulting in an average price of 705.3293 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
assbot: 123!
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 271026 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 1133 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 13 hours, 10 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 680311409.016 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.62112
pankkake: only 11%?! this is getting interesting
pankkake: ;;prevdiffchange
gribble: 19.28894
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 400 @ 0.00066 = 0.264 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Those sound delicious. We find Morels around here in the spring. Delicious. We make a lot of shit out of corn here, but I've never seen corn oil. Rapeseed is moar common.
mike_c: pankkake: i was running the numbers on this yesterday, and it is super tempting for no.. http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/
mike_c: but what happens next month when the nov. kncminers get fired up?
pankkake: I have the same dilema
thestringpuller: damn son
thestringpuller: get da hashes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0042 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00077974 = 0.1559 BTC [+]
pankkake: I used to bet on new bets with my previous winnings, but now I'm only 0.03 up :p
mike_c: heh. you could more than double with a successful no on this one.
BingoBoingo: And this is why last minute bet snipers suck.
mike_c: this is why? there's 5 weeks and a lot of uncertainty left.
pankkake: well any last No bet will get a lot of return still
pankkake: with certainly less "merit"
BingoBoingo: Well it is the snackman situation. If it wasn't for fuckers who try to sneak in the last minute... many bets would be better
pankkake: you can close the betting early
pankkake: but it woulnd't have that kind of volume
mike_c: he tried to sneak in with minutes left and no uncertainty. this is not comparable.
pankkake: perhaps you could make the weight go down faster and faster
BingoBoingo: What scares me are people like the snackman cocksucker who sneak in at the last minute with near certainty, but can actuallhy get their transactions confirmed.
pankkake: I've seen many… for things like a 0.006% return
BingoBoingo: Yeah, the last minute people don't care how poor their return is.
pankkake: anyway the easy solution, don't make the bet open for too long. resolution can be much later
BingoBoingo: pankkake, SOme things naturally resolve much earlier though.
pankkake: well even if you offered me a small return, there is still a risk. under a few percent I wouldn't bother trying
pankkake: that too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 637 @ 0.00066 = 0.4204 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: pankkake: The way I understand bitcoin any tiny returns are too expensive because of counterparty risk. If a person wants to gamble they fucking gamble. If they want tiny but sure returns those cock sucking motherfuckers can stay the fuck out of my gambling hole.
pankkake: yes, well, they can be dumb if they want to. but I consider it not worth the risk
BingoBoingo: pankkake, The thing is they can stupid still in too large of amounts. Maybe snackman was only 10BTC, but there are still old coins in the hands of the stupid. ]
thestringpuller: that's a scary thought
thestringpuller: the joker with 10000 btc
mike_c: that would cause quite a bump in s.bbet. dividends to the moon.
BingoBoingo: Right. If Snackman would have had his own wallet and sent 10,000 BTC with a 1BTC fee just to be timely.
thestringpuller: that's so fucked
thestringpuller: that's like some Satoshi Dice shit right there
BingoBoingo: Actual snackman and bitbet's handling helps me keep the faith though
BingoBoingo: Now those last minute snipers have to worry about long blocks and shit
deadweasel: i know...
pankkake: oh because he works for Occulus now?
deadweasel: @ID_AA_Carmack actually, will you continue to GPL the stuff you'll do at Oculus, or....
deadweasel: tell me nao!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 391 @ 0.0040301 = 1.5758 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Hire a troll
pankkake: shit, I think I missed my chance to sleep early again :/
kakobrekla: id agree, looking at the clock.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.402 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: pankkake, I do troll for less and wonder... How good could the troll have been if you aren't in prison. Come february you 0.2BTC/day might only be reasonable if the days counted are days in captivity.
pankkake: I don't understand exactly
pankkake: you mean, I know I'm getting in prison, but I make someone pay me regardless?
pankkake: lowered the price
pankkake: it will go up if too much people pay (unless someone pays a year and then I'm screwed!)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00402107 = 0.2413 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.402 = 0.804 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.402 = 2.412 BTC [-]
mike_c: wow, that's awesome about carmack. a better oculus will be cooler than doom ten.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.0040301 = 0.3426 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 386 @ 0.00401445 = 1.5496 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 603 @ 0.00401104 = 2.4187 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 228 @ 0.004 = 0.912 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.18028571 = 1.262 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.18705001 = 0.3741 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.395 = 1.185 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1126 @ 0.00066 = 0.7432 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.20399999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.20399999 = 0.408 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.0020849 = 0.2627 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.20399999 = 0.408 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.20399999 = 0.612 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.39232285 = 5.4925 BTC [-] {3}
bloctoc: market sell 194993
bloctoc: ;;market sell 194993
gribble: A market order to sell 194993 bitcoins right now would net 33844681.6132 USD and would take the last price down to 4.8860 USD, resulting in an average price of 173.5687 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 178.1404 seconds
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