mats: asciilifeform: i used the prev build. after updating to mainline, no issues getting a tx out
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882961 -> that's great to hear, thank you!
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 23:12 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882923 << these are a delight to read, diana_coman
mircea_popescu: kinda addictive to write, too, aren't they.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-outbridge-the-bitches-bow-the-various-things-you-didnt-know/ << Trilema -- The Outbridge, the Bitches' Bow, the various things you didn't know...
asciilifeform: guten tag, mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: heya!
asciilifeform: impressive dead bridge. a++ 'indiana jones' tropical hell.
asciilifeform meanwhile got hold of a gigantic flatbed scanner, with afaik densest available sensor, '9600x9600 dpi', which in human units is ~3 micron / pixel. which'd be aaaalmost enuff to simply scan the die, if i had the naked die... but i'ma scan the pcbs with it, and the xray film, when i get hold of the latter.
asciilifeform: after that , ch14b, where i found a ~20% (linear) speedup.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "even whe she" ; the rest ima comment.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm just back from dumping a >500 word comment into diana's blog ; this thing is going critical
mircea_popescu: btw diana_coman can i rely on <b><em><blockquote> working in your comment section ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato
mircea_popescu: (there's a special settings page for listing allowed tags, and i'm starting to suspect this should be standardized by now -- tho why the fuck is it <b> rather than <very-nice-and-thickly_bold> and wtf is <blockquote>, <bq> was taken ?!)
mircea_popescu: aw shit, and it ate my links! god damn it...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for some a++ depression fuel, try sometime & tally up how much life html tags ate
asciilifeform just in this month burned 2+ wks on fucking formattingism
mircea_popescu: not depressing me, because being forewarned permitted me to organize my life around defense.
mircea_popescu: i expect i spent <week total to date with them. which yes, since you ask, i am quite proud of.
mircea_popescu: much like the man who didn't lose the house in MMM hysteria might be proud : naggum has a snippet with y2k
asciilifeform: indeed does
mircea_popescu: and meanwhile in rotaku lulz, http://trilema.com/2012/doua-vorbe-in-directia-generala-a-unei-copile-vaitate/
BingoBoingo: And in other Christmas stories https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/navidad-en-malvin-fiesta-que-termino-en-botellazos-y-piscina-en-la-calle-no-tenian-autorizacion-20181225135243
mircea_popescu: that chick was ~so fucking hurt~ you couldn't believe.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i think the ~only social product of females in this country is the yelling out of various names, sometimes interspersed with "venga" or something.
asciilifeform: in other oddities and 'where on the net is this discussed? nowhere?', http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_lamp_peek.jpg << old-fashioned 2layer pcbs are interestingly transparent to visible light. (obv. whole thing, aint, but give surprising amt of info otherwise not accessible )
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_chinesium_macro_test.jpg << 2nd peek from bolix torture room; chinesium macrolens testfire
asciilifeform: ( the 'vertical' drams aint visible in flatbed, so therefore this )
asciilifeform: possibly overkill, but i'm quite tired of 'oops, this 1 whisker aint visible in shitphoto, nao let's redo'
asciilifeform: the rest, will post when whole orchestra post.
asciilifeform bbl,teatime
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, fixed the "whe" and thanks for the comment! Can you believe that summary is actually...5k words and a bit to spare too?
diana_coman: from what I see in the paste you did not use "" for the links though?
diana_coman: I'll try to recover it anyway
mircea_popescu: "" ?
mircea_popescu: oh wait, is the expected format <a href=""></a> rather than <a href=></a> ? (this'd be new to both the w3c and mp-wp_
diana_coman: afaik it's always been <a href="felgjer">gjewpg</a> , no?
diana_coman: in some parts you had "<a href=gwrg> gjw</a>" and in some parts no "" at all
diana_coman: fixed now, seems to work fine
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> sometimes i think the ~only social product of females in this country is the yelling out of various names, sometimes interspersed with "venga" or something. << The retards here do "VenĂ" instead
asciilifeform: hmm, selections js thing dunwork for comments apparently
asciilifeform: i'ma quote from the orig then:
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/comment-page-1/#selection-95.505-95.623 << mircea_popescu is implication that this is an underhanded thing to do ? cuz i dun see any diff b/w trinque's wallet eating unsolicited coin for the glory of trinquedom, and asciilifeform swallowing unsolicited packets ( i.e. without valid customer ip as dest addr ) ditto
asciilifeform: ( ftr nuffin interesting's shown up in the hopper of yet, possibly because BingoBoingo not yet gotten around to setting up the route )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SvW1o/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hmm, selections js thing dunwork for comments apparently << Depends on how far the theme stretches the selectable area.
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yea so i gather from reading the thing
asciilifeform brb
asciilifeform: in other noose, opensores photo 'stitchers' really suck.
asciilifeform: ( even in most trivial case, flatbed with 0 distortion )
asciilifeform: http://hugin.sourceforge.net for instance ( i dun even know of any serious alt- to the thing ) . author apparently is militantly retarded, thing feels free to cut pieces from the inputs moar or less randomly
asciilifeform: the microscopists evidently use ~something~ other than this piece of shit.
asciilifeform: if anybody knows ~what~, plox to write in.
asciilifeform: i'ma share a pair of example inputs: http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_bottom_a_super.jpg http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_bottom_b_super.jpg (warning: 300MB! each!) .
asciilifeform: ( and , for completeness, a second, http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_top_a_super.jpg , http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/bolix/pic/ivory_top_b_super.jpg , whynot . again ~300MB ea.! )
asciilifeform: if there lives a hero who knows how to merge the 2cm of ugh that dun fit on the bed -- plox to write in. meanwhile i'ma attend to other items on conveyor.
asciilifeform bbl,maffs room
amberglint: hello everyone
lobbesbot: amberglint: Sent 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
amberglint: asciilifeform: I'm not aware of alternatives, but maybe this advice from a microscopist will make Hugin useful: http://www.righto.com/2015/12/creating-high-resolution-integrated.html
amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
amberglint: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881120 << unfortunately no src, I only have the binaries
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 16:32 asciilifeform: !Q later tell amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << iirc i explained in prev thread: i have a veerry limited supply of samples. and so, i'd be willing to share 1 with a commercial lab, supposing i had with what to pay, or the proprietor were serious re 'pro bono'. but not so excited to give to some d00d who uses rust remover and layers,whatlayers, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-12-25 23:19 amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
asciilifeform: ( rust remover variant, i could do with ~own~ hands , whenever )
asciilifeform: you wouldn't give stradivari to glue to some fella who maybe glued chair leg or 2 some time last yr.
asciilifeform: 'ivory' aint much transistorwise by current-day measures, but at ~370,000 is slightly moar than its contemporary i386, and defo bigger than anyffing afaik that amateurs anywhere reversed to date.
asciilifeform: ( e.g. 6502, had ~3.5k, z80 - ~8.5 )
asciilifeform: density of 'ivory' is around 4x that of z80.
asciilifeform: z80 of course not only costs fiddycents, but ~still made~ , and so has been photographed errywhere, prolly even in zimbabwe. whereas there's maybe 50 'ivory' remaining total.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think it's underhanded in the sense i don't think underhanded means anything in the context. there's a very strict difference between the priviledged and the unpriviledged position, "only do those things specifically allowed" vs "do all things not specifically forbidden". while you'd expect a customer to only read mail addressed to him, it's iffy whether you expect the post office to read all mail it can
mircea_popescu: 't route -- it all hinges on whether the post office is priviledged or not.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the idea was that the thing neckbeards and assorted morons ("open source" or free ranged) MOST associate with "the bad" is merely a necessary function of a working system.
mircea_popescu: much like the romanian morons imagined in the 80s they want to be "free", as opposed to "they want romanian industrial committments to better reflect their own personal committments [to irrelevancy, impotence and ultimately inexistence]".
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: see i read 'how cia' and thought implies 'dirty trick'
mircea_popescu: eventually someone has to do something about all the random piling up at the periphery. sad but true.
asciilifeform: verily
asciilifeform: the 'E' vs 'L' thing in http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/comment-page-1/ is interesting btw
asciilifeform: there was an ancient heathen essay re subj, somewhere, in fact - but i've misplaced it
asciilifeform: ( possibly the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575661 item )
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 17:51 phf: asciilifeform: it ~is~ the infamous mappers and packers thing, m&p is first chapter
mircea_popescu: afaik it's new art ; but then again, novelty in this world.
asciilifeform: iirc the terminology was diff but came quite close to discussion the actual concept
asciilifeform: ( or even earlier , feynman had a 'some people do physics, others -- stamp collecting' thing )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << always a great idea. people ~should~ have ample opportunity to discover how insufficient, unimpressive, etcetera they are. i don't mean "fair" opportunity, ie, a 9mn% increase over what their environment currently provides. i mean fucking ample.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-25 23:19 amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
mircea_popescu: this is what the internet was even fucking sold as! "this'll be a place where every fucktarded murican, coolest-guy-in-his-town goes to find out he didn't even make the qualifying tops"
mircea_popescu: let them do just that. "i know your wife thinks you're the best she could ever do, but truth be told a name's wasted on your dumb ass" is way the fuck more important, useful etcetera than whatever else they thought they were gonna do that evening.
mircea_popescu: today's xmas and there's no contest. rest of the year...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-26#1883049 << absolutely fucking not. "everywhere" ? are you fucking kidding me, reading university hasn't discovered the wonder of microphony, in 2018. i'm sure they had the (by then 20yo items) back in 1898, state of the art, too. but 120 years later... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764531 and all that. costa ricans can't fucking merge, what "everywhere".
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 00:25 asciilifeform: z80 of course not only costs fiddycents, but ~still made~ , and so has been photographed errywhere, prolly even in zimbabwe. whereas there's maybe 50 'ivory' remaining total.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 01:26 mircea_popescu: "oh, DO WE STILL HAVE TO DO THIS ?!?!?! IN 2018 ?!?! EPICYCLES ?!?!?". gimme a break, you can't light a fucking lightbulb.
asciilifeform: well possibly not 'errywhere.' but in sov world defo.
mircea_popescu: that's almost older than you.
asciilifeform: possibly asciilifeform has distorted sense of time, but still thinks of it as 'recent'
asciilifeform: perhaps cuz mentally stuck there
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i don't even consider fettards delivered to this world in that same five year plan the "reforms" came.
mircea_popescu: or in the next one.
asciilifeform: thinking moar re the 'sense of time' thing, i suspect that my clock stopped where ~anything last happened~. e.g. i'm posting from a 2009 comp.
asciilifeform: ( and the only reason not from 2003 comp, was that i wanted moar bitness, back then, for address lines )
asciilifeform 'moving backwards in time' technologically in other aspects also -- about to do some old-fashioned chemical b&w, for instance
asciilifeform: 100 $ of largeformat b&w + enlarger beats shit out of 1000 $ of ccd...
asciilifeform: ( possibly even out of 10,000 $ of ccd )
asciilifeform: while on subj, i suspect that the pill for ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-03#1394833 puzzler, if indeed one can exist, lies in some variation on chemical photography. ( observe that there is no known means of observing the latent image in silver nitrate without developing the film )
a111: Logged on 2016-02-03 01:53 asciilifeform: actually for many years i have thought about the ideal electric otp.
asciilifeform: ( for instance, expose 2 overlapping films using spinthariscope. separate the films, and on each end extract pad bits via programmable lcd diffraction grate, where each grate pattern is determined by output of prev. )
asciilifeform: 1 frame of ye olde 35mm potentially carries coupla 100MB of pad.
asciilifeform: cost : ~1cent.