mircea_popescu: sure, and slaves can decide whether they're gonna wear rag A or rag B.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no difference between scarlet o'hara's mammy and that elaineou chick';s story about how she didn't get subtype x of brand y of packaged "food" at office because she got it at home and she wanted ~some way~ to distinguish between the two.
mircea_popescu: (cursory examination failed to turn up the actual item, was maybe 2016 vintage ; meanwhile snowed in by >9000 inconsequential tidbits a la https://elaineou.com/2018/12/01/dont-hate-her-because-she-commissioned-opposition-research-on-george-soros/ https://elaineou.com/2018/11/27/a-bitcoin-is-forever/ etc. spoiler : 2 out of past 3 offerings, rewritten "in own words" tlp articles, pete dushenski style.)
mircea_popescu: to sum up : "antebellum slaves" weren't "some people with absolutely no options". they were "some people whose continued existence depends on ~others~ maintaining an ecosystem for them". their "freed" descendants replicated the original situation exactly, they're came up with "the rap industry" to "tryna make it in", an' when clinton gave them free houses they failed to keep up with the payments. this doesn't sum to an indict
mircea_popescu: ment of slavery as an institution, but to an indictment of blackness as an ethnicity.
mircea_popescu: much like the fact that old people will either be found loitering in old people homes or else loitering in parks and train stations isn't possibly an indictment of old people homes ; but of old age.
mircea_popescu: being old sucks, and this isn't going to change by how you package the old folks. it's not "serenity cedars" or whatever stupid name's fault that there's no great 90yo strippers, or wrestlers, or whatever the fuck. no reforming of retirement homes is gonna make senior citizens a pleasure to drive behind. and so on.
mircea_popescu: nor can this be dispelled by anecdotal example. ~of fucking course~ there's 90yos you'd love to have dinner with. few and fart between.
mircea_popescu: o wait, i mean far*.
mircea_popescu: the question is not "whether slave has some leeway". all living things always have some leway. the question is, in romanian, "desteptu' face bani din ce doreste, prostu' din ce poate" ; and in latin, "si quis, inquis, dives est, tum cenare potest cum cupit. si pauper, tum cenare debet cum potest."
mircea_popescu: the difference is that some do what they will and the rest do what they can. that's it, and there's no talking out of it available, the surgeon will operate a case of apendicitis every single time a case of apendicits walks in the er door. not a single time less nor a single time more. "nobody asks him" in this exact sense, he'll do what there's to be done according to the book of his slavery, much EXACRTLY like the "antebell
mircea_popescu: um south" slave who'll pick cotton, exactly as much and not an iota more or less as there's cotton to be picked, and will brush silverware exactly as much and not an iota more or less as there's silverware to brush.
mircea_popescu: yes, he can apply to boss man to be moved from silverware detail to apendicitis tickling, or vice-versa, to cotton pickin'. but as long as there's the three ring binder, servile profession stays servile profession, and not calling it slavery's exactly like calling the guatemalan sinkhole in your livingroom "my girlfriend". the calling dun change nothing.
lobbes: !Qlater tell spyked http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rOvJB/?raw=true
lobbesbot: lobbes: The operation succeeded.
lobbes: ^^ lemme know if you end up needing the post-by-post history and I can shoot that over too
diana_coman: trinque, running the cuntoo script as root on Gentoo laptop with ./bootstrap.sh -k config/4.9.95-apu2 -d /dev/sdb where the laptop's own system is on /dev/sda and that /dev/sdb is an external drive connected via USB; all the partitioning+compilations seem to work fine but at the end the make_portage_tree script fails for lack of stuff and looking a bit higher up in the output I get this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mbkqu/?raw=true
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/12/linux-org-domain-hijacked-to-show-hairy-butthole/ << Qntra -- Linux.org Domain Hijacked To Show Hairy Butthole
mircea_popescu: #LinuxLost
BingoBoingo: Indeed
BingoBoingo getting clean air before making one last dive into the corral of mediocrity
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo keks, may now wants to stick with eu ?
mircea_popescu: they're so lulzy, these schmucks. srsly now, if i wanted to play with six year old girls i'd have stayed six years old. who the fuck ever does ?!
BingoBoingo: Really, its a whole pile of WTFs all the way down
mircea_popescu: meh, i keep losing my articles.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you perchance recall which trilema piece explained why and wherefore politeness is a social bad (inflates away the value system) ?
BingoBoingo: Ths one? http://trilema.com/2016/honor-societies-vs-respect-societies-or-how-the-disaster-of-commons-sunk-the-western-world/
mircea_popescu: yay!
mircea_popescu: tyvm
mircea_popescu: ahahah teh fucking comments. who was mr beam anyways ?!
BingoBoingo: I can't recall the beam fellow
mircea_popescu: Mr. Beam Friday, 25 November 2016 '"Used on blogging sites, mostly Tumblr, is an expression that denotes so many emotional responses that the user cant even comprehend what has been said or seen. " << Wrong. Intel first introduced a line of Pentriums that couldn't even.' Mircea Popescu 'I thought the Intels couldn't odd.'
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-stupidity-ratchet/ << Trilema -- The stupidity ratchet
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879137 << the warnings from cp are expected. I'm copying just files, not dirs (perhaps there's a way to suppress this warning?). If the script stopped at this point for you, I'd be curious what adding -x to the shebang at top tells us.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 09:36 diana_coman: trinque, running the cuntoo script as root on Gentoo laptop with ./bootstrap.sh -k config/4.9.95-apu2 -d /dev/sdb where the laptop's own system is on /dev/sda and that /dev/sdb is an external drive connected via USB; all the partitioning+compilations seem to work fine but at the end the make_portage_tree script fails for lack of stuff and looking a bit higher up in the output I get this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mbkqu/?raw=true
diana_coman: trinque, it didn't stop but it ended with an empty "a" and "b" hence .vpatch
diana_coman: so I think it wasn't just a warning really
diana_coman: also, why does it try to write to read-only stuff on /dev/sda or what am I failing to understand there?
trinque: diana_coman: it's saying that lilo was instructed *not* to write to sda
trinque: I roll through all other block devices but the target one and explicitly tell lilo not to fuck with them.
diana_coman: ah, ah, I get it now; makes sense
trinque: the empty dirs are weird indeed. I think -x at the top of that script will tell us more, if you would be so kind.
trinque: I'll re-run on my end as well and confirm that I get the same results I did last time.
trinque: looks like you did receive a bootable drive though, just no vpatch?
diana_coman: trinque, yes, I seem to have a bootable drive at the end of it but empty .vpatch file; where exactly should I add the -x?
diana_coman: I'll re-run it with that, no problem
trinque: scripts/make_portage_tree.sh << #!/bin/bash -ex
diana_coman: will do and report back when it finishes - probably I get to see it in ~12 hours from now though
trinque: sounds about right
trinque: can speed things up by copying /cuntoo/packages/* to the packages folder in the bootstrapper dir
diana_coman: it's more that I'll be away in a few hours anyway and then it's night here so it may as well just run fully until tomorrow morning
diana_coman: but speedup option is actually good to know anyway
trinque: ah right, no worries. thanks for your testing.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2018/12/09/weekly-update-december-9th-2018/ << PizarroISP -- Weekly Update December 9th 2018
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=100 << Bimbo.Club -- Somebody save me
asciilifeform back in biz after short break in meatspace
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : achtung : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2735&cpage=1#comment-19763
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-08#1879088 << i have not read. but attempted to when eating log, and found that i dun have enuff of recent ro wank loaded into head, to make sense of it
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 16:43 mircea_popescu: o btw, in continuation of "romanians are idiots" discussion, asciilifeform ever read http://trilema.com/2010/dusmania-politica-romaneasca/ ?
asciilifeform: ( e.g. what is 'psd' ? )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-08#1879048 << i turn these up erry coupla months, some rando derp claims to tmsr etc
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 02:54 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other wtfs, https://blackhattactics.net/i-bring-tidings-of-the-most-serene-republic.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-08#1879085 << i must be an earthworm. cuz i find'em ~all~ ~equally infuriating.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 16:22 mircea_popescu: possibly it's the actual substance of gender identity, "when girls do x i find it tolerable, when bois do it i find it unbearable" "so you're male ?"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-08#1879068 >> KillThemAll
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 15:52 mircea_popescu: #KillTheMales
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879123 << astonishing levels of snoar. tho will point out, the 'btc is 4evah' part is lulzy -- not even speaking of hypothetical crypto breaks -- there's, e.g., a built-in sad-fixint-overflow boojum due in < 20yr .
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 05:47 mircea_popescu: (cursory examination failed to turn up the actual item, was maybe 2016 vintage ; meanwhile snowed in by >9000 inconsequential tidbits a la https://elaineou.com/2018/12/01/dont-hate-her-because-she-commissioned-opposition-research-on-george-soros/ https://elaineou.com/2018/11/27/a-bitcoin-is-forever/ etc. spoiler : 2 out of past 3 offerings, rewritten "in own words" tlp articles, pete dushenski style.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879139 << oblig >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2578
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 15:35 mircea_popescu: #LinuxLost
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879133 << i can't resist to ask, wtf is a 'nonservile profession' ? 'fuhrer' aint a profession imho
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 06:01 mircea_popescu: yes, he can apply to boss man to be moved from silverware detail to apendicitis tickling, or vice-versa, to cotton pickin'. but as long as there's the three ring binder, servile profession stays servile profession, and not calling it slavery's exactly like calling the guatemalan sinkhole in your livingroom "my girlfriend". the calling dun change nothing.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879175 << tell'em, nicoleci, that it is too late nao : that you have already grown the horn.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 23:05 feedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=100 << Bimbo.Club -- Somebody save me
mircea_popescu: the horn ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform psd and pdl, the two major political parties at the time
mircea_popescu: ro has this habit of recycling the apparatus under diff names, ~same bs as in us but gets a new name every 5ish years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chick doesn't read code or understand anything. she just sed 's/x/y/g' 's and that's it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's these unicorns, "liberal professions". supposedly exist in some circumstances that nobody yet encountered.
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
asciilifeform cannot comment at all on 'liberal professions', has only ever served on galleys
asciilifeform: the horn << well, 'unicorn' neh
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 displays correctly here btw
asciilifeform: ( shows a properly-blued '"hi, let's try ((This is how they work.)) footnotes"1' )
asciilifeform: mp-wp on shared machine is a per-user install, tho, so it is possible that somebody's is broken. that one seems to work tho
mircea_popescu: it should not be possible for a mp-wp correctly installed to display the (()) part
asciilifeform: oh hm
mircea_popescu: they resolve to footnotes.
asciilifeform: ooooh that was archiver's js
asciilifeform: nicoleci dun seem to have the mp's highlight plugin installed at al
mircea_popescu: i am not discussing highlight.
mircea_popescu: i am discussing footnote parser.
asciilifeform: aaaa
mircea_popescu: you're something else!
asciilifeform: ok yes broke
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ( hanbot's , on same machine, worx , so it's a user-local boojum )
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the chick's something else. she loses like 40-50 iq points in writing. orally she's almost promising ; then she decides she's gonna write up an article, has a pretty decent idea for one, gets to work and what comes out is barely fit for jr high. i've never seen anything like this before.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says she's 3digit when speaking, and only like-so when writing, i'ma believe
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem credible, does it.
asciilifeform: but only will believe cuz mircea_popescu aint in the habit of making'em up
asciilifeform: otherwise could not
trinque: mircea_popescu: this really adds to the lulz re chorus of bois begging her to say they aren't inadequate.
mircea_popescu: you know ?!
asciilifeform: trinque: mircea_popescu must've lured away the 1 gurl in that nowhere town or sumthing close
mircea_popescu: boys nothing, there's this 40something moron with a collection of "slaves" ie confused girlies on xanax, and so on. heck, danielpbarron is saving her also, apparently.
mircea_popescu: irony of ironies.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform she's from chicago.
mircea_popescu: well, i can.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i went to chicago coupla times in recent yrz on snoring saecular biz, it was astonishingly fulla ragged bums ( and a++ gilged age bldgs, in pretty sad states of decay )
trinque: danielpbarron: don't you have nothing to do over a case of coors somewhere?
mircea_popescu: from anything there is.
trinque: asciilifeform: can find girl who was never forced to write anything in any city in USA
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform still, 4th largest us metro area or some shit, i forget.
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc this one was a bureaucrat even, somewhere
mircea_popescu: trinque all they fucking do all day is write, you kidding me ? they work in an office, what else is there to do in an office besides writing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'powerpoint'
mircea_popescu: still takes words ooooohhh
trinque: sure, typing
mircea_popescu: destroys any notion of narrative structure, doesn't it. "bulletpoints"
asciilifeform: it's 'writing' like painting bridges is 'oil painting'
trinque: thing's full of the 'gist' of whichever thoughts she had all lined up in head
mircea_popescu: right, "bridge does perspective all by itself"
mircea_popescu: thank you two, i had nfi what was going on.
trinque tips hat
a111: Logged on 2016-11-08 19:50 mircea_popescu: +30 iq points from #trilema
asciilifeform: and waiwat wat was this re danielpbarron 'saving', i missed a thread ?!
asciilifeform: aaaa
asciilifeform was deep in the midst of an algebraic headache for 48+ hrs, only nao getting out
mircea_popescu: nicoleci start reading here : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879221
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 00:39 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the chick's something else. she loses like 40-50 iq points in writing. orally she's almost promising ; then she decides she's gonna write up an article, has a pretty decent idea for one, gets to work and what comes out is barely fit for jr high. i've never seen anything like this before.
mircea_popescu: and thank the good fellows, they've saved me! it turns out your problem is that you're trying to "select the gist" of your thoughts, and paste it in.
mircea_popescu: this is a very broken approach to writing -- thoughts have to flow from one another, in a constructed, harmonious whole. you're supposed to delineate the relations as well as the "gists".
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a "gist" anyway, not anymore than "niche" or "equality" or any other of a grosse pantsuit manic moronicities.
mircea_popescu: in fact, if trilema the blog is dedicated to anything as a literary exercise, it would be very plainly "there's no such thing as gists".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: meanwhile in world of... games -- asciilifeform recently had chance to put on 1 of those '3d' welding-mask display things. surprisingly good optics nao. would be interesting in eulora perhaps
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: eulora very thought-based, there's bots there's things.
asciilifeform: orthogonal to the thoughts
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean, it's not like i have tons of art looking for ways to ease public consumption thereof.
asciilifeform: it's entertaining in strictly 'oh hey they threw brick and i can watch it hit my face' etc visceral thing.
mircea_popescu: in fact, vice-versa, been trying to hire artists for half a decade.
asciilifeform: worx pretty well even with 1980s 'battlezone'-style graphics.
asciilifeform: i spat at the idea, but was pleasantly surprised when actually tried.
mircea_popescu: well, why not i guess.
asciilifeform: the joystick that came with the thing suxxx tho
asciilifeform: apparently those went to shit while asciilifeform slept in his cave
asciilifeform: also annoying triangular pixels, i have nfi who thought that was good idea
asciilifeform bbl, petting pet, then moar maffs
mircea_popescu: nicoleci cat got your tongue ?
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, no sorry just taking it all in
lobbesbot: nicoleci: Sent 3 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, and 59 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> s/chipher/cipher , s/Bansky/Banksy , plz
lobbesbot: nicoleci: Sent 3 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, and 35 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> I raise your 103 words with a story http://bimbo.club/?p=82&cpage=1#comment-35
nicoleci: not always great to do the unbelievable
feedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/grace-peace-to-you-and-yours/ << Daniel P. Barron -- Grace & Peace to you and yours.