mod6: yeah, the madonna scene seems a bit forced or something.
mircea_popescu: and tha tschmuck, what's his name. the fat kid, "son of boss" whatever. he's a terrible actor and drags the whole thing down.
mod6: oh Chris.. something or other
mircea_popescu: chris penn ya
mod6: ya
mod6: thats it
mircea_popescu: he's for rom coms and "true to life" films about hackers / stock exchange brokers / etc plox.
mircea_popescu: but, yes, not terrible. you wanna see terrible, watch poolhall junkies.
mircea_popescu: got chazz palminteri AND christopher walken, and plays like the 3rd placed highschool media lab production for 1986.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/qntra-s-qntr-july-2017-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) July 2017 Report
deedbot: accepted: 1
mod6: i'll have to checkout poolhall junkies
phf: i think i watched it on trilema review, ended up skipping through mostly
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is that where they get the slightly aged strippers and do a sort of ... light daytime drama + staged "fights" ? << Yeah, then smackdown's the one they painted blue
mircea_popescu: oh i wrote it ?
mircea_popescu: ah yes, because of the whole stakhanovism bs
BingoBoingo: <mod6> but again, i never get to use it. << Get a lumber yard gig
mircea_popescu: i expect nothing but spanish spoken huh
mod6: yeah, i've got some friends who learned/speak spanish now because of their co-workers.
mod6: but it's generally a weird spanglish mix
BingoBoingo: Nah, lots of English spoken by hobbyists who "just want to" and maintenance folk.
mod6: ah
BingoBoingo: Good builders speak spanish
BingoBoingo: Most spanish speakers will speak a weird spanglish to Gringos, until you make them stop and speak spanish
BingoBoingo: You pick up a lot of vocabulary with "Como se dice"
BingoBoingo: And pointing
mircea_popescu: "como se dice follar ?" "no se dice. se hace."
BingoBoingo: <mod6> oh Chris.. something or other << Chris Farley
mod6: na, Chris Penn, MP has it.
mod6: I just couldn't remember
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: his brother was pretty hot in that newman way, cca 1980.
BingoBoingo: Now Sean Penn is mega roided up
mircea_popescu: myeah
mod6: he was married to Madonna for a while 'eh?
mod6: shit, 30+ years ago iirc
BingoBoingo: In his current straight to netflix gig's he's been Stalone in the 1970's and Arnold in the early 80's type 8-4% bodyfat sorta cut, but that mass dun impress on screen no more
mircea_popescu: was he ?
BingoBoingo: Now was, is now.
mircea_popescu: honestly i thought madonna was married to a horse.
mircea_popescu: a female horse.
BingoBoingo: Before was a sorta paul newman/tom cruise but with horse face
BingoBoingo: Now Sean Penn is low rent action figure with OLD sarah jessica parker horse face
phf: i sort of assumed that chris penn and jonah hill is the same person. there was probably one in the 60-70s also
mircea_popescu: o yeah, what ever became of that "talented" shithead ?
BingoBoingo: !!up fromdeedbot
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: somehow these people don't seem to observe the contradiction between "talented" and "15 minutes of fauxfame"
BingoBoingo: fromdeedbot: WHo is your daddy, and what does he do?
fromdeedbot: It's not a tumor!
BingoBoingo: It is a tumor
mircea_popescu: wait, wut ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Age testing the n00bs
mircea_popescu: phf i had to google this hill dood, and i still don't know who he is.
mod6: he was in a movie 'superbad', among some others.
mircea_popescu: uncredited in walk hard. mmkay ?
mod6: Emma Stone was the main attraction in Superbad.
mircea_popescu: imdb lists 60 credits and he's not been in anything. da fuck.
mircea_popescu: mod6 is emma stone the pubescent chick from that franchise with the schoolhouse "wizards" and whatnot ?
mod6: dunno /me looks
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hill's in pantsuit propaganda flicks, aka post humor stoner comedies
mircea_popescu: "post humour" ie cancerous faggotry ? mmmmmkay.
mod6: mircea_popescu: maybe you're thinking of "Jennifer Stone" ?
BingoBoingo: yeah
mod6: Wizards of Waverly Place or some shit
BingoBoingo: The fanfic thing, it's an emma
mod6: ah, hmm. dunno.
mod6: Anyway /me likes redheads :]
mircea_popescu: whisper in my ear clarifies i was thinking of one emma watson.
phf: i saw him in the horrible wolf of wall street and then later in war dogs. both are millennial updates of greater movies, later one being a take on "lord of war". he basically plays the same character, young annoying and smug jew who gets what he wants on chutzpah, until he doesn't.
mod6: ahh, emma watson ya. from the wizard thing, gotcha.
mod6: phf: lol
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, the libertards are exactly so described. they dare do the whole trilema rewrite thing, except their results aren't "the original improved, because closer to mp". their results are "the original, destroyed".
mircea_popescu: chutzpah is not for schmucks!
BingoBoingo: In other chutzpah https://archive.is/popJa
phf: there's nothing good about any of this. i thought scorsese would know better, but there's no defense against old age
mircea_popescu: phf and fucking anthony hopkins! wasting his time with the inane netflix crap! and ...
mircea_popescu: well hgonestly, all of them. pacino doing bullshit incomprehensible, they all drank dumbweed.
BingoBoingo: *smoked dumbweed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, was that nigger in the trilema sense ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Everyone in that story, yes
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: And the visual spectrum sense too
mircea_popescu goes back to bergman.
phf: dead directors won't have a chance to disappoint, there's a joke there somewhere about ex wives
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478505 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1302 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2871.0, vol: 10949.50050683 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2871.7, vol: 26690.41450288 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2878.830513, vol: 8754.72170000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2900.327, vol: 7988.46455973 | Volume-weighted last average: 2876.91203784
mircea_popescu: !!up guest846723
deedbot: guest846723 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: guest846723 did you want to say something ?
BingoBoingo: Ouija board https://archive.is/rb43A
jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK?
jurov: BingoBoingo: how could 2626+260 == 3993 ????
jurov: you wrote the report sober or sth?
jurov: oh the morning broke, i get it
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691879 <<< Yes jurov, it appears it was on mpex side .... sorry for the inconvenience.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 07:24 jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK?
shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix
mod6: ahh, haha. they filmed that movie at some arenas I used to play in all the time.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << o noes! but there was SUCH DEMAND FOR BIGGER BLOCKS!!!!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2687.98, vol: 12214.37393640 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2681.5, vol: 41319.17544442 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2687.944289, vol: 22935.96470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2694.996, vol: 12455.5303363 | Volume-weighted last average: 2685.94256135
mircea_popescu: i guess the "everyone blathering about bitcoin was wrong, #trilema was right" articles are mysteriously not going to get published by bitcoin.com, coinbase.fakenews and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what i'm basing this wild notion on, really. i mean they're all truthful, useful and sane news venues, rite.
mircea_popescu: and in other "blockchain world" lulz, http://imgur.com/ebLrV7X
mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what.
mircea_popescu: not like bruce dickinson is taking out google ads on "justin bieber" search strings, is he now.
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of which! http://ironmaiden.com/whatdoesthisbuttondo/
mircea_popescu: "oh anglotards have no male role models". well i wonder why the fuck that is ? maybe they're not born, yes ? somehow birth proportions changed because tiresome old spinsters say so. totally not because, to pick a random example, that the same trite old spinsters purported to give "bring your daugther to the slaughter" a "golden raspberry" for "worst original song" in 89, before being rescued by iron maiden into topping the ch
mircea_popescu: arts.
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, the oppinions of stupid old women matter ever so muchly! let's pay attention to what they have to say!
mircea_popescu passes in loud silence over that case where sharon rachel "dumb whore" osbourne got so pissed off dickinson mocked her "talent" (reality tv) that she got her shithead of a husband to try and sabotage iron maiden's performance.
mircea_popescu: totally not a case of tiresome old spinsters being ever-so aggressed at nobody giving a shit about their dumb selves.
mircea_popescu: !!up Unique_one
deedbot: Unique_one voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: o.O
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << ty for writing this up danielpbarron. I'll surely be leveraging this in round 2 of my general Gentoo quest even
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest
deedbot: accepted: 1
BingoBoingo: jurov: ty, forgot to edit my line in the copypasta process that is report assembly. http://qntra.net/wp-wordcount.php
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691729 << 1 of the few imho entertaining uses for toypads is the language gamez
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 03:41 mircea_popescu: only works after the 12th.
asciilifeform: you can do hungarian or something else 'martian' that would never otherwise get to.
mircea_popescu: what's a toypad ?
asciilifeform: crapple etc
mircea_popescu: i never saw that to usefully work.
asciilifeform: depends on what is usefully
mircea_popescu: yes, it does.
asciilifeform: they used to have these for msdos too
asciilifeform: (language gamez)
asciilifeform: pretty low tech
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, finding a native hungarian speaker is generally as easy as visiting the closest bordello.
asciilifeform: rly? in cr?
mircea_popescu: in a civilised country!
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: imo fine criterion for "am i living in civilised country".
asciilifeform: anyway 'translate this' gamez don't beat harem method, noshit.jpg. but they beat learning by reading spam, which is how i did, e.g., ro
mircea_popescu: "usefully" above meant "acquiring a capacity of expression not heretofore had".
asciilifeform: expression not so much. readonly is attainable.
mircea_popescu: ie, it's not "when i can sort-of mangle my english statements of my thoughts into pashtun", but when "i came up with this perfectly pashtun form of what i was thinking i have nfi how to put in english".
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: that'd be 'fluency'
mircea_popescu: fluency is when one can interact with native speaker for some definite, common task without having to ask for breaks.
mircea_popescu: the equivalent of "no need for flow control" in tcp/ip say
mircea_popescu: much lower bar.
asciilifeform: i think of 'fluency' as when i can translate poem
mircea_popescu: that is poemy not fluency.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, it is much higher bar than the above defined "usefully".
trinque: I've only been using the tappyputer for flash card, pretty narrow part of "learn language"
trinque: *cards
mircea_popescu: much like eating your own cum is less disgusting than faire dinette.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun think comp is practical for any other level
mircea_popescu: in fairness, when i was about 4 or 5 or so my parents wrote various pghone numbers of interest (such as my grandmother) on pieces of paper and afixed them about eye height around the house.
mircea_popescu: for a few months i had to run and check, but eventually brain was "fuck this shit, im learning it".
asciilifeform was shown once and learned...
mircea_popescu: imo the only real use of the flash card : make it moderately motor inconvenient to check. then you'll learn
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must have had many many relatives
mircea_popescu: it's how i learned all the physics constants say, "fuck me if i have to check one more fucking time!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just zero inclination to memorize anything.
mircea_popescu: even today, if i'm trying to reference a girl it's 50% gonna be "you know, that one, with the hair". literally. then the girls have to sort out if i mean jodie foster or that chick we fucked once three months ago.
asciilifeform: folx who are too easily persuaded to memorize, come to nogood
mircea_popescu: everyone comes to nogood, and especially folks who are persuaded.
asciilifeform: ( betcha everyone knows some )
trinque: they become accountants or w/e
trinque: terrible folks
asciilifeform: trinque: what do accountants memorize ?
trinque: tax law
trinque: at least in hell
mircea_popescu: the account plan.
asciilifeform: i was thinking constant 'e'
mircea_popescu: do you know the us account plan asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: what's 322117 ?
asciilifeform: can't say that i do !
mircea_popescu: so yeah.
asciilifeform: IANAA
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: also, the CAEN or however you call the job numbers.
mircea_popescu: also etc.
asciilifeform hangs head, realizing that he has maybe two dozen rfc's memorized..
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2723.11, vol: 13318.13117936 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2725.4, vol: 44647.74211786 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2724.868511, vol: 23512.37310000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2724.87231206
mircea_popescu: ha-HA!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691747 << this almost suffices to qualify as crane operator!111
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 03:46 mircea_popescu: russian is easy. Xулы?! Нихуя! Нехуй расхуяривать ! Hахуячено нехуево! Похуйярили! is really all you need.
mircea_popescu: ikr!
asciilifeform: and in fact is how asciilifeform's father addressed subordinates
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ( to productive result )
asciilifeform: and no it dun translate, ends up soup
asciilifeform: because the necessary ~structure~ ain't there in monkeylang
asciilifeform: ( and some ~excess~ structure - e.g. inflexible word order - interferes )
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: ro dun suffer from these problems, so mircea_popescu knows how this worx.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:35 shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix
asciilifeform: !#s brock pierce
a111: 73 results for "brock pierce", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brock%20pierce
asciilifeform: ^ subj
BingoBoingo: What about the one with Pedo and Sinbad?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << this is lulzier considering that, iirc, the fork d00dz also monkeyed with the difficulty equation
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ix2R1/?raw=true
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << i nearly missed this spiffy piece
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest
asciilifeform: afaik this recipe would not have helped hanbot: iirc in that case the machine would not even boot the installer ( and afaik no one ever found why )
asciilifeform: the other thing that reading this reminded me of, is that probably tmsr gentoo mirror is inevitable
asciilifeform: i have a collection of tarballs, and turning'em into a mirror is on the conveyor.
asciilifeform: ( circa - mostly - 2011 )
trinque: without proposing some hardware, no noob is gonna get the thing to work.
trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders.
asciilifeform: trinque: looks like danielpbarron offered to sell some elementary hardware
asciilifeform: ( presumably he has a warehouse of such )
asciilifeform: whilesupplieslast.
trinque: neato
shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick.
asciilifeform: shinohai: they did the cheapo sybils thing last yr also
asciilifeform: costs about what a loaf of bread does
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-fails-to-mine-block-in-four-hours-and-counting-exchange-rate-low/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Fails To Mine Block In Four Hours And Counting, Exchange Rate Low
shinohai: Complete with handy script to spin up hundreds of docker instances in batch iirc
asciilifeform: ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it
mircea_popescu: trinque> afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders. <<< yes, which is why the way danielpbarron packaged the deal is so intelligent.
mircea_popescu: basically, he's ~= RHEL by his lone self.
asciilifeform: iirc he has a crate of pogos also. could sell these as well gentooated.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it << Comments section is for the lulling about their insufficiency
mircea_popescu: my crate of pogos lol.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you don't understand, d00d! IT WAS FOR THE MASSES! THE DEMAND! PENT UP!
asciilifeform: i suspect the pogos would fetch moar moolah if there were yet a gentoo for it
mircea_popescu: i don't think niggers & pantsuits got so badly humiliated by anything in history. bitcoin rocks lol.
asciilifeform: but should not take much sweat to cook one, use my recipe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda the idea.
asciilifeform: ( the kernel bringup is the fiddly bit, and i got it going nice an' smooth )
asciilifeform: i also have a port for that other pogo-like thing, whose name escapes me at the present moment, 4 core beast, fiddybux or so
shinohai: asciilifeform: You had recipe to gentoo-ize the pogo?
asciilifeform: shinohai: linuxize
shinohai: I think I spoke breifly w/ danielpbarron abt it
asciilifeform: the gentoo userland is separate puzzle
a111: Logged on 2016-06-02 15:29 deedbot: [Loper OS] Terraforming the “MyCloud Mini” : TTY. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1644
asciilifeform: ( re the pogolike box )
asciilifeform: i found it when searching for year+ for suitable (GB/s nic, inexpensive) pogolikes
asciilifeform: this one had a little bonus feature : clock battery
asciilifeform: today there are probably other , similar boxes on the market, it's been >year since i bothered to look
asciilifeform: i'd really prefer one with NEITHER x86 nor arm ( say, superH ) but can't have everything.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691896 << iirc we saw one of these last yr
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 15:40 mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692001 << this is worth coming back to : it is 1 of the reason why linuxbios was useful
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:31 trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders.
asciilifeform: guaranteed boot into usefully-interactive thing
asciilifeform: ( lilo etc in rom )
asciilifeform: so you could actually diagnose wtf is happening on, e.g., that box where it wouldn't read the cd
asciilifeform: recent boxes have big enough roms to stuff entire kernel in
asciilifeform: which has other advantages.
asciilifeform: ( 'recent' being past decade or so )
asciilifeform: many old boxes that took lpc rom can be upgraded to bigger one, i will also note.
asciilifeform: in some cases up to 8MB!
asciilifeform: ( quite enough for any sane kernel of whatever type )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692006 << since when do these derps list alts on same www as actual btc ?!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:33 shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick.
asciilifeform: ( i suppose -- 'since nao' )
mircea_popescu: since forever afaik
mircea_popescu: haven't they been listing eg prb ever since ?
asciilifeform: prb wasn't truforked yet
asciilifeform: ( afaik still not )
mircea_popescu: still not bitcoin in any meaningful sense.
asciilifeform: was in the sense that it grudgingly ate same blox
asciilifeform: ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats.
mircea_popescu: so then.
asciilifeform: a rewind of the softfork nonsense would send prb to pluto
asciilifeform: !!up p0nziph0ne
deedbot: p0nziph0ne voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: ...srsly?
p0nziph0ne: ?
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron 208.94.116.204loper-os.org unfortunately won't work : nsf co uses dynamic dns and thing won't even load correctly if requested by today's ip ( that's how they send ddos to hell on the cheap, long before there was shitflare etc )
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
p0nziph0ne: i am glad i have found this channel
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-24#1573247 << see thread.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-24 23:49 pete_dushenski: i keep getting forwarded to www.www.loper-os.org lol. wondering if i muntzed the /etc/hosts file or what.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
p0nziph0ne: like your discussions
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: introduce yourself ? who are you? what brought you here
p0nziph0ne: my journey started at april this year
p0nziph0ne: where it all began with monero
p0nziph0ne: i read "when you care about privacy have a look at monero" in linux reddit
p0nziph0ne: what i found out then was mindblowing
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: what did you find out ?
asciilifeform: !#s monero
a111: 226 results for "monero", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=monero
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the no static ip thing is starting to be a problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the main problem of that hoster.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mirror it on phuctor server ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i get total ddosproofness ( tested empirically ) with five-nines uptime.
asciilifeform: for literally 1$ or so per mo
asciilifeform: ( varies on load )
mircea_popescu: what difference does it make what dust it costs.
asciilifeform: the difference that if i moved it literally ANYWHERE it would cost thousands/mo to get same performance
p0nziph0ne: we are living in a world controlled by a few, to work in a slavery for hunting numbers and papers they call it dollar and euro
asciilifeform: esp the part where i never have to fiddle with it at all.
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne it's altogether dubious you do any work. so it's really win-win.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's he mirroring anyway, a package ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah, it was his list of wwws for hosts table
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu-style
mircea_popescu: ah
asciilifeform: i dun have anything vital packagewise there. strictly civilian bl0g
mircea_popescu: since deedbot reads its rss anyway, i suppose the altenrate route is to go through archive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how did they say this in soviet, "we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us, long live the socialist republic" ?
asciilifeform: approx
p0nziph0ne: mircea_popescu: i like my work, its not hard for me at all, tbh i am bored its too easy atm, so i put more time into reading and finding interesting channels like this one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is interesting when these folx show up, you can almost ~smell~ reddit
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-god-has-died/ << Trilema - Why god has died.
mircea_popescu: ^ perhaps of interest to his worship danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne but what do you do ?
p0nziph0ne: i work in the IT for more than 10 yrs
p0nziph0ne: i had a steady learning curve
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: what do you DO ?
asciilifeform: as in, with own hands
p0nziph0ne: looking for possibilities to grow my knowledge and learn from others
asciilifeform: that is not a DO
mircea_popescu: this is going well.
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: and in today's "best of pantsuit poetry, all glory to ourdemocracy", http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/gems/a-new-temperance-poem-in-memory-of-my-departed-parents
asciilifeform: 'Whereas if he couldn’t get Whisky, Rum, or Brandy, / He wouldn’t do his work so handy' << lolgold
mircea_popescu: "Therefore, in that respect let strong drink be abolished in time, And that will cause a great decrease in crime." right in line with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686100 , bridge over the centuries
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 19:00 ag3nt_zer0: trinque no just worried about getting them out at august first
p0nziph0ne: asciilifeform: but learning is a doing for me, or i might not get your question yet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guns kill people, rum robs people, you know how it is.
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: q was, what is it they paid you for
asciilifeform: for DOING
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne earlier you put forth this proposition that someone is enslaving you and so on. the only problem with this view is whether you actually do anything that's worth stealing. it's perfectly possible you just sit at home all day and eat the govt's dole.
asciilifeform: digging cable trenches? crapping our perl ? what.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats. << PRB will eat high S when in block. Will fail to propagate high S until mined.
mircea_popescu: hm, actually i think bb has it.
asciilifeform: iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N)
asciilifeform: i'ma check when i get home to the torture room.
mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code.
ag3nt_zer0: hi all... who or what is that a111?
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 log bot.
ag3nt_zer0: just grabbing randoms?
mircea_popescu: hm ?
ag3nt_zer0: oh, no ok
ag3nt_zer0: i see you were referencing
mircea_popescu: it reads out log lines when someone references the log it keeps. kinda how log bots work here.
trinque: mircea_popescu: you latest article demolishes my lingering notion that the grease spot left where a god was killed can be called the same thing as him. or http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594911
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:43 mircea_popescu: in any case, no, the clay colossi are all that - machinery, golums.
mircea_popescu: the advantage of mythical time (which is what's involved whenever gods are discussed) is that you can flow it backwards as well as forwards.
p0nziph0ne: mircea_popescu: i am pretty free in what i am doing, i may choose the topics by myself, its a comfortable position because i always look out for optimizations whether its automation or security as a benefit for all, employees, company/customers and of course through automation less workload for me
mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art)
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne i see.
p0nziph0ne: i do not feel enslaved personal, but the system makes lot of people to money slaves, loosing its value daily
mircea_popescu: let no one say psychotropics do not inspire creativity in sensitive people!
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne so what's thje problem with a bunch of tards being slaves ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N) << No tienen bolludos por eso
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692127 >> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles&%21v=0.10.0#1688
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:26 mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code.
asciilifeform: ( seems to confirm my iirc )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cojones.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform block version.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: DER is encoding standard for signature, nothing about S
BingoBoingo: DER stops the Gox "drop zeros"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: cojones doesn't have the implication about size
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bolludo from balls, argentine slang.
asciilifeform believes
mircea_popescu: anyway, without discussing all the rest of the matter : asciilifeform should a high-S block be included with version <3 that if would pass.
asciilifeform: only if top 750 blox are <3
asciilifeform: otherwise rejects.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> expression not so much. readonly is attainable. << Way to make jump seems to be read a book, listen to speakers, interject, keep interjecting until you can swim in conversation
asciilifeform: ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/chainparams.cpp?v=0.10.0#0119 , http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=0.10.0#2655 see also . )
asciilifeform: this was the latest prb handily indexed by jurov . possibly different logic in moar recents.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so at most prb goes away for a week.
mircea_popescu: big whoop.
asciilifeform: i didn't say it was a bigger woop.
asciilifeform: but that mircea_popescu was actually right in 'prb != bitcoin' strictly.
mircea_popescu: right. but i wouldn't say this qualifies as any sort of check.
asciilifeform: it can be wedged apart with a relatively compact crowbar.
mircea_popescu: but yes, prb is an amateurish attempt at a non-compliant bitcoin node.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the real forkgold is in the ecc routines.
asciilifeform: which are a fairly heavy chunk of voodoo, i've been slowly chewing through.
mircea_popescu: with all sorts of silly/quirky/potentially dangerous misbehaviours, neither defined nor ennumerated, yet irresponsibly baked in. because monkeys loive to code, can't read code.
mircea_popescu: like in that joke with the soviet policemen.
asciilifeform: ( both openssl turd and the moar recent prb-proprietary one )
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/aiYBv << The DER tests, nothing about which S, which S wank came later https://archive.is/aiYBv
asciilifeform: interestingly there does not, by all indications, exist anywhere anything like a sane implementation of ecdsa
asciilifeform: to this day
mircea_popescu: how would it ?
asciilifeform: well, say somebody sat down an'... wrote one
mircea_popescu: like... who ?
asciilifeform: somebody!1111
mircea_popescu: "there exists no standard plumbing in anthill". well... um...
mircea_popescu: this is kinda not how anthill works.
asciilifeform: currently i strongly suspect that it is possible to produce a technically valid ecdsa sig that will choke 1 particular ecctron but NOT another particular one.
asciilifeform: instafork.
mircea_popescu: possibru.
asciilifeform: ( this is definitionally so if thing is sufficiently complex + ill-specified. )
asciilifeform: currently i also suspect that the whole ecc 'fashion' was instituted specifically to prevent a ffa-style treatment.
mircea_popescu: seems fertile ground for "gotcha" in any case.
asciilifeform: aaha.
asciilifeform: and i will note, if a cipher system REQUIRES a MB of source, it is not a cipher system but an overcomplicated practical joke
mircea_popescu: how long was mpfhf, fifty lines ?
asciilifeform: ( the question of whether it actually takes the mb -- will be settled when i get around to implementing )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends in what. but not so long.
mircea_popescu: so then 50 for a hash, say 100 for a cipher. seems fair to me.
asciilifeform: i dunno how to fit a bignumtron in 100
asciilifeform: ( 100 ~readable~ , clear ln )
mircea_popescu: the cipher tho, not the gcd
asciilifeform: if somebody does -- plz write in.
asciilifeform: i am counting whole shebang
mircea_popescu: well what, including display bindings ? the kernel ?
asciilifeform: ffa for instance does NOT rely on an os
asciilifeform: or kernel
mircea_popescu: it's fine if it imports its maffs.
asciilifeform: being present at all
asciilifeform: it is portable to micros
asciilifeform: all you need is a putbyteuart and getbyteuart
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686859 << see also
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 19:00 asciilifeform: i have 'p' structured such that all it wants i/o-wise is a 'getbyte' and 'putbyte' that operator can replace with whatever
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 23:13 asciilifeform: >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lBzDS/?raw=true << from the archives of asciilifeform : simple c example of The Only Driver
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity.
asciilifeform: ^ minimal x86 'os' in c.
asciilifeform: worx everywhere from 386 to whatever's on your desk.
asciilifeform: ( may have to change the constant in line 3 . )
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691984 << looool. yes, apparently, he was in this movie.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it
mod6: they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:36 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: use my boot-on-tftp recipe
asciilifeform: doesn't touch the rom
asciilifeform: it was how i sweated out the pogorotor thing
asciilifeform: ( bonus, gives ooda loop of 5sec or so )
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: strictly for dev work
asciilifeform: ~useless in any other case
shinohai: Well almost *6* hours later the tards finally manage to mine a block.
shinohai: This is good for coffeecoin
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-finally-mines-a-block/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Finally Mines A Block
BingoBoingo: <mod6> they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters. << What you have to do is speak during a take that is too good to exclude, get your SAG card.
BingoBoingo: !~calc 8/36
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: 8/36 = 0.2222222222222222
BingoBoingo: ^ MEGA thoroughput increase
BingoBoingo: !!up Birdman
deedbot: Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: mod6 there are worse asses to grab than figure skater's.
mod6: oh for sure. figure skaters often has nice asses. we like.
mircea_popescu: gotta stamp for approval also.
mod6: :]
f1maze: do I have to verify with deedbot everytime I connect?
f1maze: lol
mircea_popescu: yes. an' also stop join/parting all the time
f1maze: Is it that often? I connect/disconnect when arriving and leaving work, and when I get home
mircea_popescu: so get a bouncer maybe ?
BingoBoingo: Set up a bouncer before you get a tumour
f1maze: I dont know what that is
f1maze: guys, I'm new here
mircea_popescu: see how many things you learn here :D
shinohai: Google for `znc` or `weechat` f1maze .... you're welcome
trinque: curious what f1maze thinks would be the alternative to deedbot auth each time
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692139 << young trinque was deeply insulted by the chemical spirits that, no matter which he took, never saw a damn thing cept woobly versions of plain old reality.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:32 mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art)
BingoBoingo: Just remember kids, a lawnmower is simply an underpowered helicopter flipped over
shinohai: "http://pool.bitcoin.com is being DDoS'd. Small blockers are nothing better than militant terrorists" <<< BUT OF COURSE!!!!
f1maze: BingoBoingo: I added nitrous to my lawnmower to make it a hovercraft
mircea_popescu: keks shinohai
mircea_popescu: russian hackers, it prolly was.
shinohai: Prolly ddosin' themselves, what with the 1 hour+ blocktimes this shit has
mircea_popescu: "d"dosing
shinohai: The.y wanted the D
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ponytail adventures, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c4dcffc267d4f553fcb90a66bcaa584f/tumblr_o4r93t1zGs1uxrkulo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: !!up pa1atine
deedbot: pa1atine voiced for 30 minutes.
pa1atine: hi
mircea_popescu: ello
pa1atine: i think i got around at generating my key
pa1atine: i also posted it on wtopaste
pa1atine: anybody so kind to give me further pointers?
mircea_popescu: what is it that you need ?
pa1atine: well, how to register it with deedbot
shinohai: pa1atine: http://deedbot.org/help.html
pa1atine: ty
shinohai: https://twitter.com/poisonmadam/status/892514378314076160 <<< "Who's brave enough to carve My initials *MP* into their skin and DM Me the proof? I want you to suffer for Me boys. "
shinohai: kek
mircea_popescu: lmao.
mircea_popescu: what was the usg gdp/usd backed by, again ? "creativity" was it ?
deedbot: AAC0378219053AFD79AFA4D8861DF5C40C813682 is already registered as pa1atine.
mircea_popescu: " Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?", to quote.
shinohai: So now pa1atine you already have key registered, you just need to /msg deedbot !!up (assuming someone has rated you)
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust deedbot pa1atine
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
pa1atine: i did it this morning, but it didn't seem to work out at the time
mircea_popescu: so who are you, who do you know, what are you doing ?
shinohai: Lettuce hope you retained your private key
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/ardilla-al-dente/ << Trilema - Ardilla al dente!
pa1atine: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690419
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 21:43 palatine: i'm a lawyer by profession and trying to escape the barn in general
mircea_popescu: ah you changed your name
mircea_popescu: !!rate pa1atine 1 Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tqGg1/?raw=true
pa1atine: changed the nick, since irc said was already registerd
mircea_popescu: !!v 7FF08C6B5987A00EC3901DEF95DDBCAB55E64CA676EB7E1588AC133B0B0951A5
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated pa1atine 1 << Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
mircea_popescu: there, you can self voice now.
shinohai: Ardilla, lol ... when I was in CA I got thrown back by *iguana tacos*
pa1atine: ty
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's eaten here too. iguana i mean.
shinohai: Has mircea_popescu tried this delicacy?
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: i only ever saw it in either teh bidonvilles or the very dubious cheapo vendors, and it never appealed.
pa1atine: that is a fucking achievement
mircea_popescu: wd.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, here's the top employers for pierce country (wa) : jblm, 66k ; public schools, 13.5k ; obamacare etc 7k ; the state of washington 6.5k, the franciscan health system (about as franciscan as the ny jewish stuff) : 5.5k ; the county of pierce : 3k ; the state-owned universities : 2.5k ; fred meyer stores : 2.5k.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5)
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5) = 0.023474178403755867
mircea_popescu: 2.3% "private", for a definition of "private" that essentially reduces to walmart. if it were properly private fred meyer would just be the stamp on the local scrip.
mod6: evenin'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis
mircea_popescu: ~~~PUTIN~~~ is hit by a recession because of his inept policies ; and ~~~PUTIN~~~ is trying to hide the crisis. and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: reading fakepapers is such a riot.
ben_vulpes: what fraction of folks work for operations not on the biggest list?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how would you calculate this ?
mircea_popescu: they're all in the tide dollar trade i'd expect, who the fuck would work for bezzlar if not on the biggest list
ben_vulpes: "but mp, half of people work for small companies!!1"
mircea_popescu: "and get paid in fucks"
mircea_popescu: anyway, tacoma pop is 195k if that helps, of which 45k famblies.
mircea_popescu: so i'd expect 0% work outside of that biggest list.
ben_vulpes: pierce county 795k
mircea_popescu: i thought the whole fucking sounds region was like 1mn
ben_vulpes: incl. seattle?!
f1maze: needs peer review I'd imagine^^
mircea_popescu: well no, not seattle. the sounds.
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: f1maze: is this steemit thing plagiarizing the logs or what
mircea_popescu: i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ?
mircea_popescu: comium ? dorkium ?
mircea_popescu: medium!
f1maze: He does cite some logs
f1maze: in previous work
ben_vulpes: mm
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not that i dispute that boeing, ms, and ~everything in that neighborhood are no more than imperial outposts
mircea_popescu: if boeing is private, then i have no fucking idea what "state owned" would mean. they do pay their debts every ~15 years or so neh
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the "independent, career-oriented business woman" with a string of "serial entrepeneurship" consisting of hair salons her bf at the time bought for her.
ben_vulpes: remainder sliver is ad tech and masters degree holders pouring cocktails
mircea_popescu: (i've met a bunch of these btw, insane and incomprehensible as the item may appear in theory)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "fake tits and great attitude", http://68.media.tumblr.com/d832f2f93f38b074d0589482036c4d75/tumblr_o9l3uv1Uhj1udxojxo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478627 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1180 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2732.0, vol: 12511.66342067 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2731.0, vol: 42322.12733475 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2727.846511, vol: 23790.16560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2731.972, vol: 13156.3264475 | Volume-weighted last average: 2730.45824516
mircea_popescu: oh incidentally, speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691609 : word re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688636 ? maybe by next report ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 00:03 mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:42 ben_vulpes: interesting
mod6 re-reads
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ? << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691555
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 22:11 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aged tardstalk account, apparently posts on altcoin attempt at making a reddit that pays like a Qntra
mircea_popescu: anything works, really, from "we're not even going to consider this dumb shit" to "we've considered it and it's not useful" etc ; with or without a "we'd like to see proposal more in the X vein" or "we're not even going to consider anything, for reasons" or whatever. as it is i have nfi whether you specifically excluded it, for later, forever, or just too small to talk about or or anything really.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh, is steemit owned by the anonymint guy ?
BingoBoingo: Not that I'm aware of
BingoBoingo: Apparently only person writing things people read there
BingoBoingo: micropayments thing
mircea_popescu: ah
BingoBoingo: Kinda how /r/buttcoin started as Something Awful and is now all Stolfi's regrets
mircea_popescu: lol is this the latin america orc dreaming he's like human and university professor like the whites and everything ?
mircea_popescu: still around and everything ?
BingoBoingo: Well dunno about university professor part
BingoBoingo: but still on reddit
mircea_popescu: how about the fat girl ?
mircea_popescu: scienceateyou or what was it.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-8-2#174580 << zany and interesting; we'll have more to say by next report absolutely
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-08-02 00:00 mircea_popescu: anything works, really, from "we're not even going to consider this dumb shit" to "we've considered it and it's not useful" etc ; with or without a "we'd like to see proposal more in the X vein" or "we're not even going to consider anything, for reasons" or whatever. as it is i have nfi whether you specifically excluded it, for later, forever, or just too small to talk about or or anyth
mircea_popescu: cool
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amazon buying whole foods check it out.
mircea_popescu: oh also, did we do http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/attack-iraq-embassy-kabul-reported-170731071753080.html ?
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/01/just-do-it/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Just Do It.
mircea_popescu: and in other chipotle lulz, http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2017/08/01/safirstein-metcalf-llp-announces-that-a-class-action-has-been-filed-against
mircea_popescu: oh, also : http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170728005619/en/LEAD-PLAINTIFF-DEADLINE-ALERT-Faruqi-Faruqi-LLP/ "Lastly, the report stated that Indonesian Supreme Court documents describe torture ships that implicate the Company in the modern-day slavery that has infected pockets of South East Asias fishing industry.
asciilifeform: in other noose, zoolag is back in service
asciilifeform: ( nfi why went down, linux is 'helpful' as always )
mod6: hi asciilifeform
asciilifeform: heya mod6
asciilifeform: what's new in mod6dom
mod6: not too much. had some meatballs the size of my head damn near.
mod6: does a body good.
asciilifeform: neato
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how was the retreat?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not over yet. i'm on a short vacation from vacation
asciilifeform: then going right back.
ben_vulpes: sounds lovely
ben_vulpes formally embarking on homeorificequest
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692210 << beautiful
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:53 asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity.
asciilifeform: lol it's not exactly high tech
phf: precisely
asciilifeform: in fact i had similar (nao lost , sadly, to disk rot ) item from uni hw
asciilifeform: ( maybe phf remembers ! cs 412 at umd )
asciilifeform: but in point of fact, no joak, you dun need ANY moar of an os than ^ above, to do usefulwork.
asciilifeform: most particularly you don't need writable storage. i'ma make a demo box with 'p' and no nonvolatiles.
phf: of course, i took mine with hicks (who has a rather ridiculous photo of himself on his umd page, http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Emwh/ )
asciilifeform: lol i had nfi d00d still in biznis
mircea_popescu: lmao sikrit squirrel.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692309 << i get paywall
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 23:39 mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692321 << ahahahaha another fine production of 'let's read #trilema and never cite', так победим! folx
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 23:42 f1maze: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken
asciilifeform: 'The flaw is that the set of transactions mixed together that provides the anonymity set, is never all of the unspent transactions (UTXO) on the blockchain.' followed by various spurious deductions and push of 'zerocash' scamcoin
phf: aww, hicks has been pimping cyclone back when i took his class too, now he has to say on his page "Cyclone, a safe dialect of C. Cyclone's system for manual memory management was influential in the development of Rust." we are relevant!!1
phf: of course cyclone is an order of magnitude higher technological achievement than rust. reminds me of common lisper "we brought garbage collector java". so it goes.
asciilifeform: poor buggers, stuck 'invent typesafe optimizing compiler' when ada already existed in 1982
asciilifeform: but you won't get tenure for 'let's ada'
asciilifeform: just as you won't for 'let's rsa'
asciilifeform: ( see thread re latter subj from last march )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing substantial. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hubAh/?raw=true
asciilifeform: lollamatic
mircea_popescu: phf reminds me of fucktard murdock "oh, we were first apple store"
mircea_popescu: the substance of ineptitude is getting the dumbass to sell his ass cheap.
mod6: <+phf> of course, i took mine with hicks (who has a rather ridiculous photo of himself on his umd page, http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Emwh/ ) << heh
phf: relevant http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T792V0_uoCw/R6T6hAIArPI/AAAAAAAAAWk/8zJzYpskpNA/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/PBF244-Preach_Skate.jpg
asciilifeform: ahahahahayes
phf: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/maritime-supremacy/ << "The new aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford has all sorts of high-tech gear equipped for 21st century naval warfare. But there is one thing that male sailors will notice is no longer available: Urinals."
mircea_popescu: holy shit this is stupid.
mod6: piss-jugs swabby!
mircea_popescu: the REASON urinals exist is because you can satisfy about 3x as many toilet needs per unit space thios way.
asciilifeform: y'know, pissing in pants where you stand takes even LESS space
asciilifeform: why not do that.
phf: "When he is designing a bathroom, Kaufman says he is required to allot around 1,500 square inches of space for a urinal. A toilet needs more than 3,300 square inches. … “Why would you want the ship to be bigger just for fixtures?” said Kaufman. “You can get twice as many urinals as water closets.”"
asciilifeform: and why does a ship even need urinals ? piss over the rail.
mircea_popescu: tbh, if i ran the us navy it'd be all urinals -- but wall style not separates ; and turkish toilets (no enclosure). and all showers are open space.
phf: ^
mircea_popescu: if you can't shit squatting / wash naked with 100 other dudes you go straight overboard in a sack.
mircea_popescu: this is the navy not fucking uncle natasha's farm.
asciilifeform: iirc they had ~this prior to the chix captains thing
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is the big deal anyway. what, they'll fuck her if she soaps her snatch on the deck ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pissing over rail is ~same as "puke out window of bus on highway". works better in theory than in practice.
mircea_popescu: (btw, my 3x above is correct figure, obtained fgrom busy bar/club experience. the surface doesn't do it justice, you need 150% longer to use a toilet to pee than if you peed on the wall.)
mircea_popescu: so it's like 2.1x space 1.45x time or such.
f1maze: Ugh, what a long day. My head is ready to explode http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nj9YV/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: wouldja stop posting random rambling nonsense from the shannon noise farm ?
f1maze: Certainly, can be humourous at times though! sorry
f1maze: at least I dont join/part as much as the deep book^
f1maze: But seriously, time for me to unplug and get back to work. I will get the bouncer to help out my spam. Sorry farewell!
phf: a bouncer is a handy exercise in unixology, but you can also reduce the spam by joining only when you have something to say, or want to participate in conversation, and read the logs through web otherwise
phf: (that's what i do, i just also have a bouncer, so it's hard to see)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/129A347F21965ACCD69200D74735A3512C82825DBD99559959519CE018F8CAEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1590...8143 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '71.6.152.10 (ssh-rsa key from 71.6.152.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US CA)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/129A347F21965ACCD69200D74735A3512C82825DBD99559959519CE018F8CAEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1536...1327 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '71.6.152.10 (ssh-rsa key from 71.6.152.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US CA)
mircea_popescu: i guess it only goes to show most spam is done by pointless crap.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692429 << ever lived in a house with a leaking reddit pipe ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 01:40 f1maze: Ugh, what a long day. My head is ready to explode http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nj9YV/?raw=true
asciilifeform: terrible thing
asciilifeform: out, out, it seeps.
asciilifeform: bad enough when leakage is out on the sidewalk.
mircea_popescu: lol. can't say as i have.
mircea_popescu: and from the "better clothes for women" dept, http://68.media.tumblr.com/34b8a7e51056c6489e34c365ad59fcb5/tumblr_nzul5ySdSK1rv5c0vo1_1280.jpg
shinohai The Baron Titsbare approves ......
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo amazon buying whole foods check it out. << Yeah, Amazon is headed for a Trump confrontation
mircea_popescu: aha.
BingoBoingo: Trump is going to have to hit Bezos with the Teddy Roosevelt anti-trust stick, killing the Amazon Wapo's credibility on the way
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/#comment-106710
mircea_popescu: seems likely dunnit
BingoBoingo: Almost inevitable at this point. Possibly this might be the ONLY actual point of contention between Trump and Sessions.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is he going to run a socialist soviet with antitrust laws on the books is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu: what, a herd of mini-czars for each fieldf, holding plenaries ?
BingoBoingo: That's kinda what Hussein Bahamas tried.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, at present the stick exists. Jeff Bezos is asking for it.