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BingoBoingo: ty asciilifeform
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-11#1642183 << nah. Magic of not-python I assume. My logotron is just a python dildo I found in forest; parses each log flatfile each time search is performed. It is on my longterm list to actually write my own thing eventually (and yes, I would love to know how phf does it)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-11 15:15 asciilifeform: the magic of not-sql!
lobbes: Not-sql may indeed be the route I end up going though, after digesting recent threads here
lobbes: For e.g., lobbesbot log quoting, conversely, -is- a sql, still plenty of delays
lobbes: Seems the lisp-o-matics perform the smoothest in practice
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642514 << well, run the query that the python runs prepended with explain analyze, see if it's doing some slow sequential scan or sth, perhaps just need to pop an index in :)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-12 05:40 lobbes: For e.g., lobbesbot log quoting, conversely, -is- a sql, still plenty of delays
mircea_popescu: and this is a crime ?
asciilifeform: apparently
mircea_popescu: hey, cars offer way too much privacy for men!
trinque: "Cars are driven largely by men so by giving a lot of space to cars; we’re giving a lot of space to men — at the expense of women" << lol, indeed
trinque: they want Islam so bad
mircea_popescu: i have nfi wtf swedish dudes are thinking, not chaining the lot of "Space for women" up on a pillory.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628925 << I'm curious about it as a necessary biological mechanism being triggered.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-18 12:11 mircea_popescu: the problem, however, is that under the skin-deep "kid is fine", his passive genetics have seriously weakened. if he lives as part of a larger population that does this, a few generations down the road genetic decay manifests and there's literally no hope -- the population will either move to exogamy or die out.
trinque: would have to know how much swedish genes sloshed around with other distinct populations
trinque: maybe sweden's gene pool isn't doing so hot
mircea_popescu: well they're tall and blond. so not so much.
trinque: rihgt
mircea_popescu: exogamy is never a mass behaviour, though. or at least not usually.
asciilifeform: the tall 'aryan' swedes will go to same place as the original egyptians.
asciilifeform: say hello to the new swedes.
mircea_popescu: well the tall aryan swedes should have thought of this before going all jwz and djb.
mircea_popescu warned them not beating women is unsustainable on the long term. what's their excuse ? trilema was right there. shoulda read it in worship.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAF54FDE695E66A46DA30A675534FBE16A07D95EF762358611DF3930EAA2BE7E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1735...3483 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.239.104.10 (ssh-rsa key from 193.239.104.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAF54FDE695E66A46DA30A675534FBE16A07D95EF762358611DF3930EAA2BE7E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1683...0417 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.239.104.10 (ssh-rsa key from 193.239.104.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: morning mod6 how goes it?
mod6: ok :]
mircea_popescu: o lol. skimreading
shinohai: "blocks" : 382540,
shinohai: "connections" : 11,
mod6: upto 311k+ blocks. blk0011 nao
shinohai: I'm the little engine that could.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: they're so adorkable, the jews, how seriously they take themselves.
mircea_popescu: "fake news"!111 somebody gives a shit what we call things!!11
asciilifeform: !~seen mats
jhvh1: asciilifeform: I have not seen mats.
asciilifeform: hm that thing's broken ainnit.
asciilifeform: shinohai ^ ?
asciilifeform: ;;seen mats
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 18:36 mats: i was also stung by the alphago bet
asciilifeform: i can grep too
asciilifeform: but looks like we haven't a 'seen' tool any moar in-chan.
mircea_popescu: apparently not.
shinohai: !~seen mats
jhvh1: shinohai: I have not seen mats.
mircea_popescu: !~seen asciilifeform
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was last seen in #trilema 54 seconds ago: <asciilifeform> but looks like we haven't a 'seen' tool any moar in-chan.
mircea_popescu: !~seen doppler
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: doppler was last seen in #trilema 13 hours, 49 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <doppler> neat
mircea_popescu: maybe it expires after a while.
asciilifeform: iirc jhvh1 loses state
mircea_popescu: musta rebooted since feb.
asciilifeform: ( and so is completely useless for 'seen', the knob imho oughta be fixed or removed )
mircea_popescu: i dunno. so person wasn't seen recently.
mircea_popescu: prolly best to have multiple bots with different memory lengths lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it reboots tonight, it will think it has never seen whoever. silent failure is Wrong Thing
mircea_popescu: it's not a failure inasmuch as you're asking it not god.
mircea_popescu: it honestly hadn'\ seen x.
shinohai: I almost had trinque 's logotron working but then i moved and lost my notes
asciilifeform: if it, say, 'have not seen mats since feb 22, and no idea re last thursday because i was down' -- would be different matter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can grep.
asciilifeform: on other hand 'haven't seen mats and hey maybe my uptime is 5min and fuck you' is sad.
asciilifeform: because worse than useless.
mircea_popescu: look, you're more than welcome to your epithets but they are not reasons.
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu keep broken chairs at his house ?
mircea_popescu: i keep humans at my house. i have no expectation of divinity in my humans.
mircea_popescu: your expectation of divinity in your bots is of the same root as an expectation of friendship supplementation in computers aka "ai".
asciilifeform: or i, in chairs. but if it has a broken leg, it gets fixed or thrown.
mircea_popescu: so far it's not clear what leg is broken.
mircea_popescu: you asked bot what it saw an' it told you.
asciilifeform: not 'divinity', mircea_popescu , but meeting bare minimal state of art. i.e. no less functional than ye olde gribble.
mircea_popescu: can trivially have a bot that saves state ; it's not clear however that such a bot would be BETTER.
asciilifeform: 'seen' is a log grep. no need to save additional state beyond what trinque et al already saved.
asciilifeform: unless i am missing something.
mircea_popescu: apparently that's not how it's implemented here.
mircea_popescu: and i see a legitimate function for this implementation. maybe my idea of "you've been gone too long" is "j no longer recalls you". what's the problem with that ?
asciilifeform: to rewind upstack: i asked after mats because he was the last to mention bulk sources of esp8266.
asciilifeform: mats if you are tuned in, please write in.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my problem is that the period in which it 'does not recall' is 1) random 2) unknown.
asciilifeform: which makes the thing a roulette.
mircea_popescu: gotta face the facts : logs are fragmentary ; memory is fragmentary. you won't have perfect recall for physics reasons.
asciilifeform: logs are fragmentary but converge to completeness.
mircea_popescu: as they did above.
asciilifeform: and yes, anybody can grep. in-chan commands give a useful added flavour, imho, however.
asciilifeform: ( recall the thread re in-chan shell for l1 folx ? i still think it would be neato )
mircea_popescu: no argument there. exactly what the flavour should be however...
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with "since i woke up". nothing wrong with "i save state", either.
asciilifeform: #!seen mats
asciilifeform: !#seen mats
a111: 2017-02-23 <mats> i was also stung by the alphago bet
asciilifeform: ty phf !
mircea_popescu: there you go.
mircea_popescu: whole point of multi-implementation is to have flavour.
asciilifeform updates old crib sheet
mircea_popescu passes muscle memory rewiring pil
ben_vulpes: oh oh i have one of those too
ben_vulpes: it's called practice
mircea_popescu: look who perked up, the spine wonder!
mircea_popescu: how goes portland ?
ben_vulpes: wonder of wonders, the sun is out and the lawn sprouting seedlings
ben_vulpes: and i can put one foot on the other leg's knee today
ben_vulpes: trainputing is not tortue today, joy of joys
BingoBoingo: Perhaps what you really need is a new hip
mircea_popescu: or a better toothbrush
mircea_popescu: "but mp i've always used a telephone pole"
ben_vulpes: you know i don't think we've ever done the "sonicare" thread in here
mircea_popescu: "yes but they have these 70 gram things at the grocery store now"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ooh the brain liquifier!
ben_vulpes: lol brain liquifier?
ben_vulpes: that must be why my memory's going
ben_vulpes: anyways i'm in search of someone who used the 43kHz machine for a week and then voluntarily gave it up
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've been using'em for decade+ but still nfi if 'works' or 'gives feeling of power'
BingoBoingo: What's wrong with brass bristle wire brush? Copper content makes it self disinfecting.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ever ditch it for a week?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/04/us-department-of-justice-absconding-with-botnet-in-spanish-arrest/ << Qntra - US Department of "Justice" Absconding With Botnet In Spanish Arrest
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: brushes his teeth with an angle grinder ofc
trinque: whiskey same as mouthwash right?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha, one time went on business without it
ben_vulpes: lol "justice"
BingoBoingo: <trinque> whiskey same as mouthwash right? << Not any more.
trinque: ah meant me lol
trinque: is joek
BingoBoingo: Now ip
ben_vulpes: also this mouthwash thing, does one really want to nuke the commensal population regularly?
ben_vulpes is full of ignorance in re oral health
trinque: nah, and wouldn't surprise if diet has a lot more influence on mouth health than this brushing thing
trinque: decadent modern innovations!
ben_vulpes: what, trinque does not wash arsehole either?
ben_vulpes: de-lint ballsack folds?
trinque: I do, but I question "why?!" each time!
trinque: iirc they've found way older corpses than above with same, great teeth, where was caveman's toothbrush
asciilifeform: he had 0 refined sugar.
trinque: that, for sure.
asciilifeform: and generally had the good fortune to get nailed before 'old age'.
mircea_popescu: real men don't have folds in their ballsacks!
ben_vulpes: real men clean ballsacks with slavegirl faces!
mircea_popescu: this sounds like it'd work, the only problem being that slavegirl faces' tongues contain saliva which is actually peptic.
mircea_popescu: skin dun like the procedure much. prefers slightly alcaline soap.
ben_vulpes: well don't marinade it
ben_vulpes: marinate*
ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu had story about discovering this the hard way, yes?
mircea_popescu: feel free to try, i've not yet found an oral method.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
ben_vulpes: anyways, anyone playing along with c11quest may consider the following CXXFLAGS: -std=cxx11 -DBOOST_NO_CXX11_SCOPED_ENUMS
ben_vulpes: that last one is mostly a mystery to me, but boost demands it
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't use mouthwash, nor would i. i can feel my tastebuds die it's horrible. i suspect usage of the shit has a lot to do with why us food is such tastel;ess crap. dudes can't taste anyway./
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4697629D1A4C3B182613EA1F8F99412543368AE3E053FAD018995B3A337BDD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1434...7747 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.197.99.112 (ssh-rsa key from 85.197.99.112 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (galactica.welcome2inter.net. DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4697629D1A4C3B182613EA1F8F99412543368AE3E053FAD018995B3A337BDD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1653...9817 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.197.99.112 (ssh-rsa key from 85.197.99.112 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (galactica.welcome2inter.net. DE)
ben_vulpes: see also popularity of msg
mircea_popescu: i do get the high freq vibrating metal rod at the dentist maybe once or twice a year, but i never thought of getting a bathroom version.
ben_vulpes: not a bad thing qua itself, shows up in normal fucking foods all the time, but keeping a shaker of it around is Not Great
mircea_popescu: dun seem like such a bright idea. too much in the vein of "fucking this whore's great fun once a week, i know, how about she moves in!"
asciilifeform: the brain liquifier is very very addictive.
asciilifeform: after a while -- normal brush feels 'ugh, like using sandpaper'
ben_vulpes: /ineffective/ sandpaper
mircea_popescu can't be arsed to try this wonder.
lobbes: !Qseen mats
lobbesbot: lobbes: I have not seen mats.
lobbes: Wah wah
lobbes: Well, redundancy anyways
mircea_popescu: !Qseen lobbes
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: lobbes was last seen in #trilema 1 minute and 33 seconds ago: <lobbes> Well, redundancy anyways
mircea_popescu: !Qseen Skydragon
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: I have not seen Skydragon.
mircea_popescu: !Qseen deedbot
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: deedbot was last seen in #trilema 53 minutes and 52 seconds ago: <deedbot> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4697629D1A4C3B182613EA1F8F99412543368AE3E053FAD018995B3A337BDD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1653...9817 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.197.99.112 (ssh-rsa key from 85.197.99.112 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: !Qseen mircea_popescu
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu was last seen in #trilema 38 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> !Qseen deedbot
shinohai: didnt romans advocate the use of urine as mouthwash?
asciilifeform: lobbes: pretty neat
mod6: nice
ben_vulpes: in other eerie coincidences of manufactured life, this coffee cup weighs about as much as the water it holds
pete_dushenski: also eerie [brasilian style], "Couple who went ahead with their wedding after a hitman walked in and SHOT three relatives say they were 'trying to make the best of it' but were upset 'so much food was wasted' after guests fled" http://archive.is/W1ZOs
pete_dushenski: which is pretty much on the same level as richard branson's new 'dyslexic-only sperm bank' http://archive.is/bIyns
mircea_popescu: hopefully the nato world doesn't run out of gimmicks.
mircea_popescu: #1 raw material for "World economy" !
pete_dushenski: as long as bezos is still alive, it's always Day 1
pete_dushenski is adnotating scamazon 2016 shareholder's letter atm
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642660 << i don't use mouthwash, brush and floss once a day (with regular non vibrating brush, and i reuse the floss untill it splits apart or breaks) -- hadn't been to the dentist in over 8 years; went in last year and they tell me my teeth are in great shape considering, although i did have to get some cavities fixed (mostly in wisdom teeth which is expected. and yes i still have my wisdom teeth
a111: Logged on 2017-04-12 17:13 ben_vulpes: also this mouthwash thing, does one really want to nuke the commensal population regularly?
danielpbarron: also i avoid sugar, drink mostly tea.
danielpbarron: !!v AD299ADAD916245BDBC79F60C2591250AC0B66221DB6EDB86B7C5C21F1F6F832
deedbot: danielpbarron rated Skydragon 1 << my Euloran slave
diana_coman: uhm, what's with the wisdom teeth+expected?
danielpbarron: apparently they go bad easier
mircea_popescu: this is so.
diana_coman must be some exception then
mircea_popescu: women get wisdom teeth ?!
danielpbarron: they are just harder to reach with the brush. if you take the time to carefully brush them regularly then they should be fine. or that's how i understand it
diana_coman: ah, that makes some sense
mircea_popescu: nah, they're just cruddier stuff. half the time they don't even grow the right way. as they're inclined, they get transversal pressure either from the bite or from the jaw/other teeth (which are stronger) or both.
mircea_popescu: on the long term this pressure kills them as sure as sugar.
asciilifeform: 'Dyslexia has been a massive help for me personally; it makes me think creatively and laterally, two major factors that helped me create Virgin and build a global brand. Dyslexia is a different way of thinking, not a disadvantage and it shouldn’t stop young people from achieving success and striving to make their dreams a reality. Just look at what these amazing dyslexic people have achieved…' << lol!!
diana_coman: ah, position might be a thing
mircea_popescu: dude's been doing nothing but bleeding money for 20 yearse
asciilifeform: maybe he has a parallel alt-arithmetic where he's winning!11
mircea_popescu: 17 - 25 => 71 - 52 => PROFIT!!! ?
diana_coman: hey, he's ...happy, ok? so amazing etc
mircea_popescu: i dunno about happy, but he's hyppa'lright.
diana_coman: good enuf
mircea_popescu: lol this reminded me of the "ne futem sau evadam"
mircea_popescu teaches girl how to make pizza etc, now the whole house smells like i'm in neapole.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in other lulz, the word is teh russians will shoot back next time ; should be interesting to see if teh us got the ballsack.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as proclaimed in https://ria.ru/syria/20170411/1491967099.html ( linked mainly for the lulpic )
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/04/12/amazon-2016-letter-to-shareholders-adnotated/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Amazon 2016 Letter to Shareholders, adnotated.
ben_vulpes: http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/12/15259400/burger-king-google-home-ad-wikipedia in which the complexity cost of networked life starts becoming apparent to everyone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can has summary ?
mircea_popescu: in other real news, ttp://68.media.tumblr.com/0b3817c0153c0d491c757468369d371f/tumblr_omsphpjKId1tgc11ao1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: burger king triggered the "google home" devices' voice recognition, got them to blather about burger king products after the ad roll
ben_vulpes: that's a rerun from today, innit?
asciilifeform: the sheer idiocy of 'voice command' -- in particular, when device offers no other ui, there are cars now that can only be configured with voice ( are these only sold in anglotardistan? i can only with difficulty picture them elsewhere )
asciilifeform: is which
a111: Logged on 2017-04-12 19:34 mircea_popescu: and in other hot hos, http://68.media.tumblr.com/0b3817c0153c0d491c757468369d371f/tumblr_omsphpjKId1tgc11ao1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: nobody listens to dumb ol visual memory ben_vulpes
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