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thestringpuller: i'm testing trb54 and I get this from V:
thestringpuller: File: trb54/bitcoin/.gitignore
thestringpuller: Expected: 9a57fba56bdaf8ac851e2a336013f03f354005dee6f12f6d472882b284dd5cdae09d0f57729d877c0cf7dfee0f8bea8b602492860ae703f3f5934de15c7514ae
thestringpuller: nvm got it
thestringpuller: trinque: you were right about the ssd. man i should have done this earlier...
mircea_popescu: in other news apparently i'm entj now.
mircea_popescu: what was the thing in 1984, shattered dreams cafe ?
shinohai: Been so long since I read that book
shinohai: Ah here it is "Winston, now free, sits at the Chestnut Tree Café, where dismissed Party members go to drink."
shinohai: s/Winston/Gavin Andresen/
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : curl never links openssl static libs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, is a juggalo a dude who got breast implants but is otherwise not making any efforts to feminize, on the contrary enjoying the "butch leather dude with boobs" look ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, juggalos dress like clowns
BingoBoingo: The creepy clown meme clogging the us media atm is really just hate speech and conditioning for anti juggalo pogroms
BingoBoingo: Depending on the mood today it'll be in roundup xtend or spin off into its own thing.
thestringpuller: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-08#1553993 << bwahaha. For the zoologists in the audience, usian juggalos are a lulzy study. Known to spray each other down with 'Faygo' at dirty, outside music gatherings
a111: Logged on 2016-10-08 03:57 BingoBoingo: Nah, those are just juggalos
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 03:09 asciilifeform: the other thing about rms and his response - the 'sex harassment' racket has been a thing in usa for long enough that a well-developed body of kabuki ritual now exists; where, if an org can demonstrate that said kabuki were religiously followed, its liability is in practice limited to something survivable
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, yahoo has been forever a sort of ibm ("company" in name only, without product, market, economic relevancy etc ; supported entirely out of the governmental manger dedicated to supporting faux "business")
mircea_popescu: that it's used for exactly the sort of ritualized, cargo cultish bullshit a la "purge males!11 womenz can be suit people too!!1" is far from surprising. what the fuck else would it do
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-9-tmr/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend 9 (TM)(R)
mircea_popescu: gotta commend ben_vulpes for his paste tolerance to large sizes!
mod6: threw in a big one 'eh?
mod6: !%pp
tb0t: Projects: UCI | t | trb | v
mod6: hmm. so, in the test channel, everything is working as it should; will keep an eye on it.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/fractured-gop-experiences-coup-attempt/ << Qntra - Fractured GOP Experiences Coup Attempt
BingoBoingo: ^ Rapidly developing situation
BingoBoingo: GOP death knell bell rings again
shinohai: I was just reading about Codoleecha calling for him to drop out
thestringpuller: yea it's all over the news
trinque: BingoBoingo: s/excepts/excerpts/
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: The wrong reason is on that news.
BingoBoingo: Pence is polling well, and the rats smelled an opportunity to try to blow up the party in a way that might let them land back on top the rubble heap
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah like mb
BingoBoingo: WAPO decalred victory in their war on trump
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this is pretty insane. really ?!
BingoBoingo wonders how much cocaine went into planning this snow job
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Reality distortion field is strong
BingoBoingo: Situation is set to rapidly flip the other way just as quickly making these Elliots look like idiots.
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy though.
mircea_popescu: still, if he doesn't convict the whole socialistard establishment to public whippings and dying in work camps, he'd have won in vain.
BingoBoingo: "Donald Trump is never going to be the president of the United States. As we sit and digest each successive leak of damaging material, each un-endorsement, each Trump threat to attack Hillary Clinton in the most personal terms imaginable, the fact remains that Trump has almost surely destroyed his chance of ever becoming the most powerful man on Earth. The discussion will now slowly shift to Republican hopes of shoring up down-ballot rac
BingoBoingo: es and (just wait) the creation of Trump TV. But we cannot and should not forget: A couple days ago it was still fathomable that America could have voted into office the biggest threat to the country in decades." << An urban practitioner of pete's religion who enjoys marijuana
BingoBoingo: Eh, Trump is part of the socialist establishment.
mircea_popescu: aaaanyway. delicious butt tears.
mircea_popescu: "Donald Trump Could Have Been President. Let’s never forget what a terrifying thing we almost did. By Isaac Chotiner" << lulz.
BingoBoingo: Same outlet published this shoop predicting what tomorrow's debate will look like https://archive.is/4wxII
mircea_popescu: so they're going to you know, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514544 except with their own candidate ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 15:12 asciilifeform: (flycheck was LITERALLY the 'we shall build an alt-country out of stooges and call it your country)
BingoBoingo: Well I thik their intention is hope Trump's vice presidential candidate is cool with the coup
mircea_popescu: the little shitheads, ever the dissension seeders eh.
BingoBoingo: Kinda their MO, a-norco tyrany and all that
BingoBoingo: !~google norco
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Norco Uses, Dosage & Side Effects - Drugs.com: <https://www.drugs.com/norco.html>; Norco Bicycles: <http://www.norco.com/>; Norco oral : Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings ...: <http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-63/norco-oral/details>
mircea_popescu: "The leak of Trump’s disgusting remarks on Friday, although putting a near end to his chances," |<< <ahahahahaha.
mircea_popescu: the dicklet seriously believes ANYONE gives a flying fuck ?
mircea_popescu: seriously, somebody somewhere who currently is going to vote for trump is going to... change his mind ?
BingoBoingo: Anyway this much smug is seriously bearish for Clitler
mircea_popescu: let alone anything else, just this much. is going to change his mind ? really ? hurr.
mircea_popescu: and is going to change his mind because... trump... said things about women ?
mircea_popescu: gawd almighty.
BingoBoingo: for srs
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo she never had a chance ever since she dared cross the republic.
BingoBoingo: Well tomorrow night she has a chance the Donald will grab her pussy onstage to break the ice.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/ideological-history-of-the-republic/ << Trilema - Ideological History of the Republic
BingoBoingo: Anyways the GOP is set to be estranged from its voter base like never before
mircea_popescu: ^ plox to review.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo basically they decided that they won't wait for him to destructure them and replace them with his own people ; but commit suicide of their own volition aforehand. gop's seneca moment.
mircea_popescu: "One the upside for mimblewimble it is sufficiently removed from value, actual implementation, and deployment to substantially reduce the likelihood of news happening to it any time in the near future." << word.
mircea_popescu: esltards belong entirely in the abstract world of reddit.
mircea_popescu: in other news apparently ben_vulpes can't get pingbacks
shinohai: "Really, Ubuntu legitimately contains enough stuff to cover many hundreds of walls with shelves ? " <<< couldn't agree more
mod6: mircea_popescu: Reading through 'http://trilema.com/2016/ideological-history-of-the-republic/', thanks for putting this together and your comments around freezing linux distros.
mod6: i will denote that item 13 of the Ideological History of the Republic's second link is missing an 'h' in front of 'ttp..' link.
asciilifeform catches up on mega-l0g.
mod6: <+shinohai> "Really, Ubuntu legitimately contains enough stuff to cover many hundreds of walls with shelves ? " <<< couldn't agree more << indeed.
shinohai: I hadn't installed Ubuntu in forever until I started testing this stuff. It's maddening what a resource hog it is.
mod6: oh yeah. it's a wasteland.
mod6: mircea_popescu: in the context of an ideological history, I have nothing further to add. I'll denote that the recent progress of freezing trb's 3rd party deps, starting in the end of July, is signifigant, however covered by item #10 imho.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it'll eat up to 4mb, lmk if you need more
ben_vulpes: aaand i have nfi what the story is with pingbacks
asciilifeform: aaaaand i see the lizards already rolled out the legitimization story for a diebolding of ol' mr t.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how would i use shiva to hook into the trb wallet functions?
thestringpuller: and key functions?
trinque: so, phf was the second after asciilifeform to have a key expire. we should probably discuss how this should be handled going forward.
trinque: in alf's case I did --recv-key on same fingerprint when it happened, so same was done with phf's key
trinque: my perspective is that the field is promisetronic in exactly the same manner as nlocktime
trinque: I don't see that it means a thing; control of private key is control of private key
ben_vulpes: fingerprint collisions can be purchased.
ben_vulpes: wouldn't one want to actually verify the key components and not just that sks coughed something up for a given fp?
trinque: I have both keys here.
trinque: ben_vulpes: given that, how do I know I got the right key the *first* time.
trinque: somebody put a fingerprint in someplace and then I asked hitler for it
asciilifeform: trinque: that'd be one of the few practical uses of meatspace conference.
ben_vulpes: ideally !!register <key-url>
trinque: then that gets mitm
ben_vulpes: sure enough.
ben_vulpes: user comes back around pretty quickly with a 'wtf' tho.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554091 << you would have to begin by putting shiva back in... it isn't in the mainline trb (on account of questionable usefulness)
a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 00:41 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how would i use shiva to hook into the trb wallet functions?
asciilifeform: (and relatively large qty of gnarly and yet-unreviewed code)
ben_vulpes: trinque: i say don't handle it, expiration is a ridiculous booby trap in gpg and updating is all sorts of fraught.
trinque: I have to run for a bit; I put the matter of how to handle this circumstance before the Lords.
mircea_popescu: mod6 a ty.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 00:41 trinque: in alf's case I did --recv-key on same fingerprint when it happened, so same was done with phf's key
asciilifeform: stop using --get-key-from-usg.
asciilifeform: yesterday.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so far was amply sufficient, very nice.
mircea_popescu: trinque you know you got the "right" key the first time because the guy registered it ~prior~ to being anyone.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; expiring keys are a major fucking problem. i have personally no qualms whatsoever with simply depersoning anyone whose key expires.
mircea_popescu: "my key expired" === "i published my privkey"
asciilifeform: unupdateable keys are also problem.
mircea_popescu: not retroactively, of course, but hey - you want to expire your key, just fucking change it. BEFORE it "expires".
asciilifeform: noshit.
asciilifeform: 'take off pants ~before~ sitting on shitter, not after'
mircea_popescu: course i dunno if we even have support for this in deedbot
mircea_popescu: even the notion of "expire" as implemented in gpg.koch is nonsense. should be replaced with "disused", as in, "i took it out of deedbot and am not using it anymore"
asciilifeform: imho there is even merit in a scheme like lamport's, where the key has to be replaced ~every time it is used.~ seems like nuttery, until you consider that it cannot be ruled out that rsa (and every other numbertheoretical method) signatures slowly leak the privkey.
mircea_popescu: i guess i should add this to my rsa key length article.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rewmind me, how did i get pubkeys from phuctor ?
asciilifeform: let's take example:
mircea_popescu: Known Moduli: 4391213 Moduli with Obvious Brain-Damage: 460906 ie more than 10% ffs.
asciilifeform: then there is a button at the bottom.
asciilifeform: gets you the .asc.
asciilifeform: these are the only 2 knobs it's got.
deedbot: mircea_popescu is already registered.
asciilifeform: see, worx
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554113 << right, I am of the mind to make two changes going forward, as this was not stated explicitly before.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 02:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554094 << Just Say No to sks, folx.
asciilifeform: (or does it?)
mircea_popescu: trinque so ideally i'm thinking !!register should just keep on working, except if it's already register it should produce challenge to old sig
trinque: one, remove --recv-key entirely from deedbot; two, anyone whose key expires is a dead nick
trinque: mircea_popescu: yep I like that
mircea_popescu: and yes, once key expires the responsible party is fucked.
mircea_popescu: re recv-key, i dunno that you HAVE TO take it out ; but i'm certainly not against removing it.
asciilifeform: did we ever have a case of key-expired-and-no-new-key-issued-prior ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you and phf.
asciilifeform: not me.
asciilifeform: i -- issued.
mircea_popescu: not afadk.
trinque: asciilifeform: I thought I had not pulled your new key until after the old one's expiry, but I could be mistaken.
trinque: but at any rate, "I published to sks before old expired" is also broken.
asciilifeform: now i cannot force people to pull the reissued key in timely way.
trinque: right
trinque: mircea_popescu's change to !!register solves it
asciilifeform: i still get 'wtf' from people who download the original v
asciilifeform: with old key (differs only in date field, i've been using the same modulus for years)
mircea_popescu: trinque also possibly force any !!register to an existing name to happen in the chan only, no pms
trinque: makes sense.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, firefox 20.0 crashes about once a week ; firefox 43 crashes about once an hour.
mircea_popescu: but it improved somewhat wrt to improving the restoration-of-session thing, which i guess indicates they're well aware.
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 433548 | Current Difficulty: 2.5852274840451544E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 435455 | Next Difficulty In: 1907 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 22 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
asciilifeform setting out traveling, will have sporadic connectivity.
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