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deedbot-: [Trilema] Calidad de Vida, or My Days Among The Cargo Cult. - http://trilema.com/2016/calidad-de-vida-or-my-days-among-the-cargo-cult/
phf: эх бросить всё и уехать в аргентину
mircea_popescu: punkman yeah ; too bad weaponry is moving from kinetic to fuel bomb.
punkman: mircea_popescu: you mean the ones that ignite the oxygen around the target?
mircea_popescu: all sorts, but yeah.
mircea_popescu: basically the problem is, that structured armor will resist 100kj in kinetic attack and melt like chocolate under 5kj of thermic attack.
mircea_popescu: and there's no structural defense to that.
mircea_popescu: hence the thermobaric weapon
punkman: "The armour is a composite sandwich, with boron carbide on the front face (a hard ceramic), followed by the metal foam, and either aluminium or kevlar on the rear face. The metal foam is made of 2mm-diameter hollow steel spheres in a stainless steel matrix." sounds expensive
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman http://dpaste.com/1M6CPT3
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: in which the later tell service beats email.
mircea_popescu: might consider implementing something like that trinque just in case gribble dies one day or something.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449672 << of ferfuxxsake, 'First - you pillage, Then - you burn!' - didn't they teach this in your viking school!?
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu dig his garden with shovel, or with trotyl?
asciilifeform: why did american army in vietnam, which had thermobaric bomb in abundance (invented it, in practice) continue to use legions of grunts with ordinary rifles?
jurov: asciilifeform: yifan.lu was overran by hn
asciilifeform: any idea why?
jurov: how do you mean, why? it was just slashdotted
asciilifeform: what the linked item was
adlai: asciilifeform: 'asylum' of some sort, yes. it's quite a story! too long for logs, saving for the blog.
asciilifeform: adlai: finally out, i take it? escaped?
adlai: fun fact: if you 'hack' off your location broadcasting wristband, you're gonna forget it in your pocket when you leave, and have a Bad Time.
jurov: asciilifeform: looking at google cache, it's about cracking nintendo 3ds
asciilifeform: adlai: lulz
adlai: asciilifeform: "I'm gonna walk right out the front door" (tm)
adlai: ;;later tell mircea_popescu submission for trilema movie reviews: Inside Man
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: jurov: ty for summary, now i can snore again, i never did and never will give a flying fuck re game consoles
asciilifeform: srsly the original drm chumpers, buying, believe, ~whole computer~ built solely to make copying the gamez harder!
asciilifeform: admittedly i find some of he '80s-'90s game machines interesting from a systems perspective, they had minimalistic iron and ran 'os-less' long into the era when x86 languished under microshit
adlai: phf, trinque: either/both of y'all may be interested in https://github.com/adlai/scalpl/commit/019c10d (specific patch, rest of repo is relevant only to archaeologists)
asciilifeform: but i never had the slightest desire to own one , esp. to use for intended purpose
BingoBoingo: Nintendotron might be interesting to cannabalize for hardware walletotron, if only for its incredibly common plastic case.
shinohai would love to put trb on a gameboy one day
deedbot-: [Qntra] FBI Director Comey Admits To Taping Over Webcam After Speech - http://qntra.net/2016/04/fbi-director-comey-admits-to-taping-over-webcam-after-speech/
jurov: BingoBoingo: did you read tfa?
jurov: they explicitly point out it's overcomplicated and has thus big attack surface. so, no sane walletotron that way.
jurov: phf just an idea: if someone comes up with a completely new (or very rare) word like the w-tron above, use it to link to previous convo?
jurov: and it might actually bolster up creating good tmsr jargon
asciilifeform: and why is the plastic case useful, i dun get it
BingoBoingo: <jurov> they explicitly point out it's overcomplicated and has thus big attack surface. so, no sane walletotron that way. << I really don't mean keeping much in the way of hardware. Just a plastic case that arouses a wildly different kind of suspicion.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you're playing physical camo games, why not hide the thing in old vase. in garden. up arse. etc
BingoBoingo: Well there's that.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf can haz bookmarkable url that points to tip of the logz plox ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ('last' oughta be 'magic' and point ALWAYS to the last line at any given moment)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449684 << finally read this. i suppose this is not a bad time to remind folks of the 'arm' cpu being a lothesome piece of shit that i have 0 desire to use for anything if it can be avoided
asciilifeform: (it is heavily unoptimized for human consumption and arm asm is a bitch to audit)
asciilifeform: srsly the idiot archs always seem to win.
BingoBoingo: Well, idiot arch encourages you to tape over your webcam as an act of resignation.
asciilifeform: and i do not believe this to be in any reasonable sense a work of chance.
asciilifeform: idiots support other idiots automatically, ideologically.
asciilifeform: arm is ~blessed~ by hitler, much as x86 was.
asciilifeform: and as such, must die (tm).
asciilifeform: and yes, i ported trb to arm. as wartime wunderwaffen (which went nowhere.)
asciilifeform: if we turn up a bucket of cheap crays somewhere, i will port it to cray..
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at a comp sec convention 'shmoocon' they handed out, among other souvenirs, little plastic sliding shutters for webcams
asciilifeform: pretty useless, most afflicted laptops won't properly close with the thing in
asciilifeform: for the record, web cam shutters are lame
asciilifeform: if you're pwned, you're pwned, shutter or no shutter
asciilifeform: ~as if~ the most damaging thing to be lifted by attacker were picture of your face or arse !
asciilifeform: folks post these, believe, voluntarily!
asciilifeform: microphone, i can see.
asciilifeform: but camera ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some - with shovel ; other - with trotyl. yet another - with garden!
mircea_popescu: adlai aite.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what grunts what rifles. they "use" "mercenaries" who use them instead.
asciilifeform: what mercenaries in vietnam ??
mircea_popescu: anyway, so i suppose in the "blogs that must be", we have "adlai - views from inside the insane asylum" and "phf - they have philosophy in russia even!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but i never had the slightest desire to own one , esp. to use for intended purpose << makes two^H^H^H all of us.
mircea_popescu: wasn't vietnam right during arab fuel crisis ? :D
asciilifeform: the surrender, was!
asciilifeform: mega-coincidence, aha.
mircea_popescu: jurov> and it might actually bolster up creating good tmsr jargon << this is actually not a bad idea. something like "every word that appears exaclty once before shall be linked to that instance. every word that appears only in linked references produced by the foregoing gets linked to the previous instance."
mircea_popescu: on the theory that by now most common words appear more than once in the half gb log or w/e it is.
asciilifeform: i suspect that almost all cases will be misspellings
mircea_popescu: might need a little manual adding/substracting because obv some keywords also appear more than once, and in the future there may be false positives, but in general...
mircea_popescu: maybe add a "a111 nuke misppealing" command for a111
mircea_popescu: which removes "misppealing" from the list
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform answer't your comment btw
mircea_popescu: also, who was doing what so i can see the log line read in chat ? this is starting to drive me nuts. trinque ? phf ?
phf: or perhaps just term foo or whatever command
phf: mircea_popescu: can i get autovoice for a111?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> idiots support other idiots automatically, ideologically. << they do. this is the most fascinating thing : how incredibly cultish idiocy actually is.
mircea_popescu: basically cults are an attempt to emulate idiocy in higher functioning intellects.
mircea_popescu: the reason it actually delivers useful work is specifically that idiot behaviours, as unthinking as they may be, are actually adaptive.
mircea_popescu: and a functioning console still does more work than a "correct" computer with nonfunctioning gentoo on it.
mircea_popescu: ("what do you mean it doesn't function ? yeah i didn't do anything useful with it since june last year, but I FUCKED WITH IT SIX HOURS EACH DAY SINCE!!11". )
mircea_popescu: phf alrighty.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and yes, it goes back to the 'blind loyalty' thread
asciilifeform: and the teenager -ev thread
mircea_popescu: right ? where was that,
asciilifeform: thinking folks have chronic problems with forming spartan 'testudo'
phf: i have a reverse osmosis machine that i carry from apartment to apartment, i then drill holes in granite countertops and such. still waiting for somebody to deduct the holes out of my security deposit..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it has ~nothing with thinking folks. i have seen this personally. the avenue is as such : thinking children are deliberately and ellaborately castrated by certain societies to become socially inept. the first thing that goes when socially inept is allaloisi menontes, as in http://trilema.com/2009/etimologia-democratiei/#selection-77.26-77.44
mircea_popescu: this is an exact mirror of how a different but overlapping set of societies deliberately and elaborately belames pretty girls to think "they can't do math".
mircea_popescu: it's these specific lobotomies that allow "certain kinds" of societies to function.
asciilifeform: the first thing that goes when socially inept is allaloisi menontes << elaborate ?
mircea_popescu: so no, an inability to have friends is in no way related with intelligence in males ; just like an inability to add is not related to symmetrical facial features in females.
mircea_popescu: read teh link!
mircea_popescu: phf why would they ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my gr is weak
mircea_popescu: o neoi, alla machesthe par allaloisi menontes, o noobs, fight shield to shield and never yield
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 15:51 mircea_popescu: also, who was doing what so i can see the log line read in chat ? this is starting to drive me nuts. trinque ? phf ?
mircea_popescu: win phf ty.
mircea_popescu: check me out, i actually made a proper fucking english verse to translate greek!
mircea_popescu: better than i managed in ro, ftm.
mircea_popescu: helleniki to ro is a fucking nightmare of ages, nothing works right. NOTHING!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how is 'tara, tara, vrem ostasi' played ?
mircea_popescu: and ftr, just in case the kratos = power mind is strong and the verse reads "o noobs, fight shield to shield and never yield [to the enemy]", it is not. it is mide fygis aischris archete mide fovou, ""o noobs, fight shield to shield and never yield [to panic and a coward's flight]
mircea_popescu: kratos = endurance.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 14:55 asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf can haz bookmarkable url that points to tip of the logz plox ?
asciilifeform: phf: no good. it turns into a specific date
phf: oh you mean so you can keep refreshing it?
mircea_popescu: "why would anyone want this" re deedbot $up
phf: asciilifeform: wooord, ok
phf: asciilifeform: in a vaguely related note the way i've been reading is to click on the entry that i read last (whether it's last line or wherever in the logs) and then do refresh, which extends the log to new state, but keeps my context, something worth trying
asciilifeform: phf: difficult on pNohe etc
mircea_popescu: phf same here.
asciilifeform: generally i don't even ~use~ the www logz when on an actual computer
asciilifeform: (why? when i have the whole thing scrolling into eternity)
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, on phone, you click on nick to get a link for entry
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many peeps haven't ever loaded teh logs on a phone.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly most? my understanding is that 'pNohe' is a usaschwitz/workingclass thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> ~as if~ the most damaging thing to be lifted by attacker were picture of your face or arse ! << this is the case for about half the humans i physically interact with. think about that.
asciilifeform: 133337 d000dz on dirigibles are never far from their cockpit, dun need no stinking pocket comp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wai wut, weren't you the one with 'woman isn't even a woman unless her arse is posted on www'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how does that preclude "most valuable" ?
asciilifeform: does a leaked pr0n subtract, or add to, the value of future pics of same chick?
asciilifeform: afaik it appears to be the latter ?
mircea_popescu: i guess it all depends, neh ?
asciilifeform: on what ?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi!
mircea_popescu: but the fact remains that if anything's gonna be damaging, it'll be that and naught else./
mircea_popescu: lol "get rekt". nb.
asciilifeform: 'I created a proof of concept of this attack. This isn't enough to launch a real attack, because an attacker only has 16 bytes of DOS assembler code, which is very little. For a real attack ... ' << l0l! fella apparently doesn't know that microshit PE format has a (i shit thee not) ~dedicated field~ for 'load exe from url and execute'
asciilifeform: iirc handily will fit in 16 bts.
mircea_popescu: quite so.
mircea_popescu: iirc was in teh logs even
ben_vulpes: shinohai: owncloud is a miserable piece of garbage
shinohai: agreed, that's why I lol'd
ben_vulpes: i started reading through it a year and a half ago when i committed to excising appleware from the house
ben_vulpes: waybad.
shinohai: Someone offered me a few bits to install it on a server for them and I declined.
shinohai: Just couldn't bring myself to do it.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu happy sov liberation of odessa day!111 l0lz
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 18:10 ben_vulpes: http://oopweb.com/Ada/Documents/AdaLinux/Volume/book.html << no spark?
ben_vulpes: i am having a hard time with a republican selection of a tool written after i was born
ben_vulpes: (phf: mega thanks for the inline loggurgitation)
mircea_popescu: lol ty ty
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes put teh hard time into words.
ben_vulpes: simply a radical departure from surface-level form!
ben_vulpes: https://angel.co/prismatic << 2 nerds raise ~20m to write lispalikes on the jvm. build consumer facing content curation apps. write a megatonne of highly useful, open source software. fail to pivot to enterprise once the consumer play is obviously not panning out, fold up shop.
ben_vulpes: another footnote to asciilifeform's trope about how little software is written off-the-clock
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-20#801402 << entirely unrelated, but fun/sad to see.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-20 00:05 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell chetty http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Grand_prismatic_spring.jpg/800px-Grand_prismatic_spring.jpg now this has got to be in the game.
ben_vulpes: more like 16.5M, apparently.
danielpbarron: incidently, that ~is~ in game..
ben_vulpes: well yes!
ben_vulpes never entirely certain how much context to provide
ben_vulpes: also, still waiting for tiberius to make it into btcbase
ben_vulpes: now *those* were some choice luz.
shinohai: $rate phf 1 Keeper of the scriptorium, great work on new chan logs.
shinohai: (-_-)
shinohai: $v 20DA8B51130031914FEB9795A6333013EBACE57B4E8B3BBBEC0206263CA918DA
deedbot: shinohai rated phf 1 << Keeper of the scriptorium, great work on new chan logs.
deedbot-: [serialized delusions] Scripting the web - http://explo.yt/post/2016/04/10/Scripting-the-web
phf: ben_vulpes: tiberius is ancient logs?
jurov: phf, yes
phf: oh damn that's a lot of log
mircea_popescu: i keep getting pms from randos who got banned in b-a.
mircea_popescu: too lazy to answer, something lik... dawg, if you're too lazy to know what's going on you prolly belong banned anyway.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: which nicks?
ben_vulpes: not that nicks mean anything i know i know
mircea_popescu: i opted not to name already, so w/e, no importanto.
mircea_popescu: howling shit, jurov is handling his blog comment spam via www:mechanize and browser sessions ?!
asciilifeform: l0l! ninjashitgun show up yet?
mircea_popescu: i wonder what'd happen if we crossed in a thousand agars a thousand cascadianhacker blogs with a thousand explo.yt blogs.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 19:55 ben_vulpes: i am having a hard time with a republican selection of a tool written after i was born
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449850 << i am reading the link and cannot at all tell wtf the co did..!
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 21:52 ben_vulpes: https://angel.co/prismatic << 2 nerds raise ~20m to write lispalikes on the jvm. build consumer facing content curation apps. write a megatonne of highly useful, open source software. fail to pivot to enterprise once the consumer play is obviously not panning out, fold up shop.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes heh yeah she put it in there actually. pretty cool.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ca. 2010 attempt at deep learning for content recommendation
ben_vulpes: afaict
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: trb is also a millstone, not a mill.
asciilifeform: we dun have a mill.
ben_vulpes: ada's not a decent mill?
asciilifeform: cannot yet say.
asciilifeform: but i know that the ~other~ available systems are not.
asciilifeform: still hoping that i overlooked something.
asciilifeform: i'm mostly convinced at this point that any serious attempt at sanity will be a similar enough thing to ada that it will trigger all of the same allergies in same folks.
phf: oberon, etc.
asciilifeform: (the bitter taste may not even be a bug, but a feature.. - repels teenagers, trendoids, 10,001 species of pond scum)
asciilifeform: phf: quite
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449848 << number blindness is the first symptom of insanity, followed closely by name-blindness; subsequently, total loss of all five humors
a111: Logged on 2016-04-10 20:17 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes put teh hard time into words.
adlai: $rate phf 2 blogged the best lisp bitcoind i've seen yet
jurov: there's lisp bitcoind?
adlai: $v DC0142B2DAA4586E0064273D20201B533A7211E182D63E039B64E54AAA307FE2
deedbot: adlai rated phf 2 << blogged the best lisp bitcoind i've seen yet
adlai: jurov: what else did you think S.LIMBS was about anyways
jurov: about limbs, haven't you seen their poster?
adlai: bitch, i am the one who posts
adlai goes back to work
adlai will open a coinbr account when s.limbs delivers ipo
jurov: Now is Time, tomorrow IS glory !!1
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
mircea_popescu: omfg i had forgotten that one. fresh round of lolz.
mircea_popescu: $rate alikim 1 Euloran
mircea_popescu: $v E487E049EC795726B2F69B2D7A300FB0D7CD3C8ECCD5862FECD89D672A7A2207
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated alikim 1 << Euloran
mod6: took a chance on that bare metal img. nb!
mod6: asciilifeform: are you lookin for a wfh job then or what's the deal there?
adlai: shinohai: the lolz are that people generate keys using computers out of their physical control... or even, using computers at all
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 420.17, vol: 1895.73758737 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 417.0, vol: 3405.82866 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 421.11, vol: 4364.84374939 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 421.99, vol: 0.1178381 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 422.182488, vol: 17785.12640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 420.93, vol: 1757.34604586 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 425.271796, vol: 5.68299697 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 421.212750332
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 02:27 mod6: asciilifeform: are you lookin for a wfh job then or what's the deal there?
phf: asciilifeform: it was funny in my head. something about who needs reversing skills, when you can do brute force fuzzing by indian and become a millionaire (in rupis)
adlai is listening to: Metallica - The Memory Remains (4:43)
adlai: (highly relevant lyrics)
deedbot-: [Qntra] 3D Printed Objects Are A New Frontier For Enterprising Pirates Thanks To Reverse Engineering From Audio - http://qntra.net/2016/04/3d-printed-objects-are-a-new-frontier-for-enterprising-pirates-thanks-to-reverse-engineering-from-audio/
adlai dies laughing
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 406726 | Current Difficulty: 1.668515132827772E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 407231 | Next Difficulty In: 505 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
adlai: at least satoshi is keeping the price appropriate
BingoBoingo: phf: I'm pretty sure if someone attempts that an avatar of physics becomes incarnate, personally finds the person doing that and delivers a swift kick in the crotch.
adlai: BingoBoingo: how about that btc diff adjustment beat, is it still open?
adlai likes wfh yobs
phf: BingoBoingo: there's a su science finction novel, "a billion years before the end of the world", where an astrophysicist on a verge of discovery is plagued with random events that disrupt his work. so after some trials and tribulations he and his friends realize that universe exists in a sort of entropic equilibrium that creates an active counter balance to rational intervention
adlai queues that for the qntra sparknotes column
mod6: asciilifeform: ya, cool. i need one too - I miss wfh everyday. hard commuting every damn day.
adlai: mod6: protip: next time you're interviewing, mention that commutes are a dealbreaker.
mod6: i've got it figured out dude.
mod6: in oct the place i was at which was wfh pretty much 90% of the time went under. found a life-raft at the current place.
mod6: but, only 5% wfh basically.
mod6: anyway, yeah, need to find new wfh gig
a111: Logged on 2016-04-09 16:14 asciilifeform ON A MOTHERFUKING SATURDAY yet ANOTHER phone interview with folks who ~lied~ in advertisement re telecommute
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 03:41 adlai: mod6: protip: next time you're interviewing, mention that commutes are a dealbreaker.
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