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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25605 @ 0.00050175 = 12.8473 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00050413 = 5.7471 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70078 @ 0.00050068 = 35.0867 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up massiro
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00049755 = 23.9819 BTC [-] {3}
massiro: The-Eth-Scam payout is in trouble I think... (BitBet)
massiro: The payout of /bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/ is stuck for some reason. The payment is expected to be come from: https://blockr.io/address/info/1EMmmcooTXe64SY5X3FwTC1HU1t32XLWPx
massiro: the txid d8e60a0979024cce9159bd7b59594eae7dec627db5ac6bd088866afea533b0e9 is not visible for some block explorers...
massiro: What could I do for this?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00049652 = 10.278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34964 @ 0.00049835 = 17.4243 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BTC Transaction d8e60a0979024cce9159bd7b59594eae7dec627db5ac6bd088866afea533b0e9 | BlockCypher ... ( http://bit.ly/1Us5he9 )
massiro: The above site says the fee is 0.001 BTC so I think it is more than enough. Is this related to low/high S value problem?
mircea_popescu: <massiro> What could I do for this? << wait it out, basically.
massiro: Mr. mircea, thank you!
mircea_popescu: might also try and encourage any dudes running non-conformant bitcoin implementations to come to sanity, but that's a tall order yet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27520 @ 0.00050419 = 13.8753 BTC [+] {3}
massiro: I have heard only low-S value is permitted since around October 2015, due to the severe tx-malleability attack by amaclin (at bitcointalk). Core devs quickly responded because it is very annoying (original TxIDs will be changed and one might lose the record of incoming payments).
mircea_popescu: that position is without any actual merit, and as you can attest it does in fact inconvenience you.
mircea_popescu: feel free to tell them so.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46882 @ 0.00050088 = 23.4823 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Militia Liberates Oregon Land From Federal Occupation | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDW97p )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00050213 = 19.2818 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00049998 = 19.1992 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00049652 = 4.3197 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7869 @ 0.00049652 = 3.9071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00049648 = 13.8518 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4084 @ 0.00049861 = 2.0363 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29916 @ 0.00049775 = 14.8907 BTC [-]
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] 7 lessons for hitting the broad side of a barn with your professional resume (curriculum vitae). - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/05/7-lessons-for-hitting-the-broad-side-of-a-barn-with-your-professional-resume-curriculum-vitae/
punkman: "Use a professional e-mail address. “luvbunnie69@hotmail.com” or “buzzlightyear2infinitynbeyond@yahoomail.co.uk” just doesn’t cut the mustard." << meh, I really wouldn't care about that. having your own domain instead of gmail is a nice touch though.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37889 @ 0.00050236 = 19.0339 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00050237 = 13.2877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00049611 = 11.5594 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72300 @ 0.00050332 = 36.39 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8619 @ 0.00050384 = 4.3426 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26181 @ 0.00050422 = 13.201 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27798 @ 0.00050492 = 14.0358 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00049829 = 1.5945 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.0005057 = 10.7208 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00049857 = 4.7863 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5175 @ 0.00050575 = 2.6173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13906 @ 0.00050605 = 7.0371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00050609 = 15.2839 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42350 @ 0.00050484 = 21.38 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19184 @ 0.00050391 = 9.667 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12322 @ 0.00050143 = 6.1786 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00049839 = 7.127 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21948 @ 0.0004983 = 10.9367 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11071 @ 0.00049829 = 5.5166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4416 @ 0.00049829 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38874 @ 0.00049516 = 19.2488 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38741 @ 0.00049895 = 19.3298 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13452 @ 0.00050091 = 6.7382 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13317 @ 0.0004948 = 6.5893 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2857 @ 0.00049398 = 1.4113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16343 @ 0.00049831 = 8.1439 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 06:27:37; mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/01/militia-liberates-oregon-land-from-federal-occupation/#comment-35441 << lol BingoBoingo's private jokes ever more obscure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00049358 = 3.0602 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00049538 = 4.1364 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91778 @ 0.00049542 = 45.4687 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28650 @ 0.00050014 = 14.329 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10986 @ 0.00050258 = 5.5213 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Apparently mp triggered more people on okc https://archive.is/upmuU
assbot: I’m Overweight…But That Doesn’t Give You The Right To Be Rude! – Horse Junkies United ... ( http://bit.ly/1myHO0t )
BingoBoingo: Poor horse
BingoBoingo: Could have been so delicious, but instead tortured.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00050567 = 3.2363 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Dick Smith is the Greatest Private Equity Heist of All Time - Forager Funds ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdrJ6O )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4680 @ 0.00050404 = 2.3589 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up ziggs
BingoBoingo: !up zigglar
kakobrekla: chanserv is a bad boy
zigglar: when do bets payout?
kakobrekla: my guess is soon
BingoBoingo: zigglar: They now hold for 48 hours after resolution to check for objections/errors so prolly pay out when a bitbet mod wakes up
zigglar: It's been about 96 hours
kakobrekla: well, it says after 48hrs and technically 96 is after 48
zigglar: lol
kakobrekla: anyway, a shitload of bets closed at new years so give so time to sort them all out
kakobrekla: give them some time*
zigglar: Ya makes sense
zigglar: Assumed it was automated
kakobrekla: nah, mtgox was automated.
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1JFY4JY.txt )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00050404 = 7.2078 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78021 @ 0.00050714 = 39.5676 BTC [+] {4}
thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3zjtkp/does_coinbase_ask_to_see_check_stubs_if_you/cymtv18 << And why would I trust you with my pay stubs? Next thing I know some schmuck in New Mexico is opening credit cards in my name.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00050776 = 20.9197 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: " A penny for an average on-chain transaction is probably too expensive to be competitive. " - Stephen Pair << and this is why your company is dying
assbot: Bitcoin Foundation: Where on Earth Did all the Money Go? ... ( http://bit.ly/1myW4Gq )
jurov: Jon Matonis: $137.5k through "THE HOLE OF ROY LLC". Salary up from $31k. Jon Matonis acted as Executive Director up to October 2014.
jurov: wtf that company name
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.00050356 = 17.2721 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.0005081 = 28.4536 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21982 @ 0.00050915 = 11.1921 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 15:19:23; kakobrekla: nah, mtgox was automated.
davout: the bash web interface seems to be stuck at beginning of november
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26944 @ 0.00051197 = 13.7945 BTC [+] {4}
kakobrekla: davout wanna be mod ?
davout: shit
davout: i guess if one's needed then why not
davout: am i allowed to autoh-mate moderation?
kakobrekla: lol no.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00051284 = 24.3086 BTC [+] {5}
kakobrekla: davout you now have mod access, on that note some guidelines http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257804
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 23:27:05; kakobrekla: not at all, but i have a process for approving bashes
kakobrekla: approve/delete them in order
kakobrekla: clean them up as much as you can
kakobrekla: check the logs for possible better framing
kakobrekla: i dont usually approve those containing links because fuck that shit and also links tend up ending dead
kakobrekla: i prolly end up removing over half of them
kakobrekla: feel free to ask if you have questions and good luck.
davout: ok, i'll give it a go
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12641 @ 0.00051366 = 6.4932 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.00051542 = 18.7871 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10360 @ 0.00051179 = 5.3021 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00051582 = 7.8663 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17685 @ 0.00051179 = 9.051 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00050402 = 9.0724 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00050325 = 9.0585 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up taub
BingoBoingo: !up tautology
jurov: !up mircea_ahoy
mircea_ahoy: in other argentine news, half of belgrano's out of power an' so i evacuated to a boat.
jurov: !up Dava
mircea_ahoy: turns out that if you're going to run a generator, the best way to go about it is, make it part of sailing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.0005031 = 7.295 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_ahoy: Things your mom would have your rear end for saying, things that though you’re no expert you feel that you are clearly the most intelligent on the forum and have to interject. Things you would NEVER say to their face or at least that directly… in my blog I really want to expose just how a simple Facebook comment has torn my life apart about horses and how unfortunately I witnessed a Facebook friend receive the same cruel attack just last w
mircea_ahoy: “You’re too fat to ride that horse”.
mircea_ahoy: fuck that shit ? what's the horse, a rock ? if you prick it, it does not bleed ?
jurov: alf: see - mircea's dirigible
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00050233 = 13.7638 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_ahoy: the biullshit they hide behind. no, my mother wouldn't have been protecting your delusional "right" to be colossaly stupid at the expense of a poor unfortunate horse that has no fault.
mircea_ahoy: for that matter, i have said this to people, and so has anyone who owns horses and lets random street people ride them.
mircea_ahoy: that aside, the actual woman in the picture isn't actually too fat to ride, and besides its her own fucking horse. but fucking SAY THAT. not random bs about mothers and whantot.
shinohai: ahoy, Cap'n! o/
mircea_ahoy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1360851 << for the record, all bets that closed for new year were paid out ~ coupla days ago. some non conforming miners have been failing to include the txn in mined blocks. this is part and parcel of bitcoin working poorly as it does.
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 15:16:51; kakobrekla: anyway, a shitload of bets closed at new years so give so time to sort them all out
mircea_ahoy: direct any complaints as to "why my txn has been waiting for x days" to anyone and everyone who is running non-conformant bitcoin implementations. starting with the pools.
mircea_ahoy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1360864 << the money that they were pretending to have and never did went to places. just like eth and just like every other fiat-pushing "bitcoin" scam to date.
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 16:05:26; assbot: Bitcoin Foundation: Where on Earth Did all the Money Go? ... ( http://bit.ly/1myW4Gq )
mircea_ahoy: "I have not been presented any evidence of any theft, criminal act or similar wrongdoing but would be *happy to pay a bounty of at least 10%* for anyone with information and evidence of any such act leading to recovery of any funds which were misappropriated or stolen. Those who imply that there is any wrongdoing at the foundation now or by those involved now should come forward with evidence or at least a solid and specific accusation. If p
mircea_ahoy: resented with any such evidence I would work to have justice done."
mircea_ahoy: fucking bullshit. fenton using the meni rosenfeld defense "hey, if you don't get a fiat court to give us fiat then ergo no crime was committed by our bitcoin scam"
mircea_ahoy: yeah, right.
mircea_ahoy: ;;later tell mircea_popescu remember to negrate that fenton dumbass.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.0005078 = 7.4647 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up mircea_ahoy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57545 @ 0.00050782 = 29.2225 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_ahoy: apparently it's gonna storm. herp.
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1360915 < are you checking and resending as well or ?
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 19:27:56; mircea_ahoy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1360851 << for the record, all bets that closed for new year were paid out ~ coupla days ago. some non conforming miners have been failing to include the txn in mined blocks. this is part and parcel of bitcoin working poorly as it does.
mircea_ahoy: kakobrekla, yes, they're being broadcast constantly.
kakobrekla: roger
mircea_ahoy: besides, what's mempool remanence, 48-72 hrs ?
mircea_ahoy: 50something average last i recall looking at it.
kakobrekla: i cant say i remember having such issues ever
mircea_ahoy: yeah well. you don't really get to kno wwhat pos the bitcoin network is until/unless you try and run a high volume merchant on it.
kakobrekla: do txes you broadcast end up shown on some blockexporer in a timely manner?
mircea_ahoy: on various ones. heck, guy complaining yest linked to one.
mircea_ahoy: "broadcast two days ago, miner priority 84%", not included
kakobrekla: dunno, even my fee-less txes came through in less than a day recently
mircea_ahoy: are you using trb or bullshit-b ?
kakobrekla: doesnt make a diff for broadcasting - you can use various endpoints
mircea_ahoy: yeah, but i also don't honor whatever random "improvements" derps made.
kakobrekla: even some blockexplorers have a 'broadcast tx' option no?
mircea_ahoy: anyway, it's no trlike the txn is secret or anything. it's signed, anyone can broadcast it any way they please.
kakobrekla: im just trying to figure out where the problem is
kakobrekla: i cant say i did so far
mircea_ahoy: best i can tell, miners haven't been including 100s of btc worth of valid txn.
mircea_ahoy: which... you know, is not technically something bitcoin guarantees won't happen.
mircea_ahoy: even if you don'
mircea_ahoy: t care about days destroyed, the fee was in the top fifth anyway.
kakobrekla: !up mircea_ahoy
mircea_ahoy: but hey, for as long as the bullshit subsidy for blocks continues, this problem will persist.
mircea_ahoy: once they get 0.1 btc for a mined block, not including 0.0001 feed txn won't be feasible anymore.
kakobrekla: would be nice to figure out if this is some specific miners or all of them
punkman: it's not even multisig, probably is nonstandard for 0.11 :D
kakobrekla: uh that site makes my head hurt.
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1EMmmcooTXe64SY5X3FwTC1HU1t32XLWPx ... ( http://bit.ly/1O3RWH7 )
kakobrekla: >Fee: 0 BTC
kakobrekla: this could possibly have something to do with it.
mircea_ahoy: possibly but it's not actually correct ?
mircea_ahoy: i don't think i've sent a 0 fee since 2012.
kakobrekla: i dunno
kakobrekla: odd stuff
punkman: so other txs from same wallet have gone through?
mircea_ahoy: same system's been paying bitbet since bitbet has invented.
mircea_ahoy: it's been running into random problems ever since, none of which have ever been fucking fixed.
kakobrekla: !up Batchulism
mircea_ahoy: occasionally i do a trilema piece about them, or used to at any rate, but really... kinda lost interest.
Batchulism: shouldn't 0 fee txn still show up on blockchain or other explorer, just with 0 confirmations?
mircea_ahoy: nobody's actually involved in making bitcoin not suck. there's a large group of idiots involved in trying to make themselves look good, and there's trb trying to make bitcoin be less g narly.
mircea_ahoy: fixing the actual usability issues looks at the present time like 2020
thestringpuller: ahoy mircea_ahoy
thestringpuller: where are you sailing to?
mircea_ahoy: just going up an' down the silver river.
mircea_ahoy: recharging tits & butts with solar power.
Batchulism: how long do 0 fee txn take to process? do they ever time out?
mircea_ahoy: even if in fact it were 0 fee, with that cointime mass it shouldn't take hours, let alone a whole day.
mircea_ahoy: ofcourse we've probably abandoned days destroyed because it's unfair or something, fuck knows anymore.
mircea_ahoy: but more generally, a txn can't time out for as long as it's being rebroadcast.
Batchulism: so what happens with the txn that were sent for the bets closed for new year that havent come through?
mircea_ahoy: they're in the mempool waiting to be included in a block.
mircea_ahoy: anyway, ima be landing. bbl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00050989 = 12.7727 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: "Twitter Considering 10,000-Character Limit for Tweets"
shinohai: Sounds like the [ANN] section of bitcointalk.
assbot: [Full Disclosure] CVE-2012-2459 (block merkle calculation exploit) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z6sPf6 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.0005129 = 20.0544 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: arkanoah comments on 4.88 BTC was stolen from me, BUT HOW?! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z6uYYj )
punkman: oops, that was in the log
punkman: CVE-2012-2459 isn't though, maybe a good thing to fix next trb release
assbot: Cryptsy halts both trade engine and withdrawals : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z6woSv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20455 @ 0.00050934 = 10.4185 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: Good, I hope their little scam factory crashes and burns.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22455 @ 0.00050003 = 11.2282 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00049675 = 8.4696 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00050183 = 6.2729 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: blockchain.info and blockexplorer.com know nothing of d8e60a0979024cce9159bd7b59594eae7dec627db5ac6bd088866afea533b0e9
jurov: anyone tried to submit it there directly?
deedbot-: [Qntra] Man Driven Into Historic Flood Waters By Missouri Police Dead - http://qntra.net/2016/01/man-driven-into-historic-flood-waters-by-missouri-police-dead/
jurov: blockr.io idem
jurov: interesting, this shows there is some unconfirmed tx, but never loads it https://blockexplorer.com/address/1EMmmcooTXe64SY5X3FwTC1HU1t32XLWPx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00050215 = 12.152 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: ArnoldC ... ( http://bit.ly/1mE80Ga )
BingoBoingo: except for the java part, but that can be fixed
BingoBoingo: !up Bitbet123
BingoBoingo: !up mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: !rate brucefenton -10 working to coverup vessennes various frauds with the faux bitcoin foundation
assbot: brucefenton is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: rrright.
Bitbet123: Hi, why is bitbet not paying out?
mircea_popescu: Bitbet123 bitbet did pay out.
mircea_popescu: miners currently not including the transaction in blocks. go ask them why not.
Bitbet123: Can you not resend?
mircea_popescu: it's being rebroadcast every 2-4 hours actually.
kakobrekla: finally the pile of emails overflows to irc.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the wrong irc, but anyway.
Bitbet123: Well i'd like to receive my winnings
mircea_popescu: i bet you would.
punkman: you just gotta mine a block
mircea_popescu: unfortunately bitcoin doesn't seem to be ready for prime time just yet.
assbot: Bitcoind : not quite ready for prime time on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mE8QCT )
BingoBoingo: Mebbe you gotta double spend with moar fee?
mircea_popescu: if 0.001 ain't enough for 1kb it will just have to fucking wait.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who the fuck pays 100k satoshi / kb other than me.
BingoBoingo: I usually do, but holy shit
danielpbarron: that's about hiw much it costs to train gathering in Eulora when you're the highest rank gatherer :D
mircea_popescu: anyway, Bitbet123 : the correct avenue here is to ask antpool / f2pool / whoever else why they aren't including tx d8e60a0979024cce9159bd7b59594eae7dec627db5ac6bd088866afea533b0e9
mircea_popescu: alternatively you could also ask various monkeys masquerading as "bitcoin devs" why the fuck they broke the protocol and are costing you money.
davout: stuff's weird, i broadcast txes multiple times a day, paying 0.001 per, around 1~2kb, never had an issue
mircea_popescu: bitbet also never has an issue 99.9% of teh time
mircea_popescu: but as it turns out, THAT is not good enough for an actual, usable payment network.
davout: you sure you're not paying 0.0001 instead of 0.001 ?
davout: care to share the raw tx?
mircea_popescu: again - even if it were free, it should have been much higher priority than anything else.
davout: should it ?
mircea_popescu: myeah. i'd have to extract it, tho you could just fish it out of the mempool by hash i guess ?
davout: first thing i tried
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4001 @ 0.00050516 = 2.0211 BTC [+] {2}
davout: i want to try to push it myself, see what happens
mircea_popescu: aite ima have it extracted.
davout: bc.info doesn't see it, which happens fairly often in my experience, because it sucks
davout: but blockr.io doesn't see it either, which is more surprising, again, in my experience
davout: so i suspect it simply doesn't propagate
mircea_popescu: i dunno they kinda dropped off my map since they were acquired.
mircea_popescu: but, if you run a proper node i can connect to you and it should be in your mempool within the ... i dunno, minute, hour ?
davout: hang on, gonna check a different node
davout: nah, paymium's production node doesn't see it either
deedbot-: [Qntra] Twitter Suspends Oregon Hero's Account - http://qntra.net/2016/01/twitter-suspends-oregon-heros-account/
mircea_popescu: does twitter even do anything OTHER than suspend any account the moment it threatens veering into maybe vaguely interesting ?
BingoBoingo: Not really.
BingoBoingo: But the indictment in this case seems necessary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.00050183 = 2.5523 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: So the next chapter of VanillaISIS knows to establish an embassy with tmsr before seceeding
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1361025 <<< I trolled Bruce Fenton by tweeting this to him earlier.
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 22:51:16; mircea_popescu: !rate brucefenton -10 working to coverup vessennes various frauds with the faux bitcoin foundation
punkman: Kodak brings back Super8, "Shooting Analogue has never been so easy. When you purchase film you will be buying the film, processing and digital transfer. The lab will send you your developed film back and email you a password to retrieve your digital scans from the cloud so you can edit and share in any way you choose."
punkman: who the fuck is gonna buy this thing
pete_dushenski: what's it cost ?
punkman: no idea
mircea_popescu: chicks that wanna-be cool on the cheap ?
mircea_popescu: no shortage of those.
punkman: film is not cheap
mircea_popescu: yes but what people want and what people get...
punkman: though LOMO is another thing that inexplicably still exists, and it's pretty popular with the hipster chicks
mircea_popescu: i thought i just explained it.
davout: looks like hardware-instagram
punkman: heh
punkman: http://shop.lomography.com/en/home/newpetzval58-brass "the New Petzval 58 Bokeh Control Art Lens features a classic gear rack focusing mechanism and Waterhouse aperture plates for a truly 19th century-like photographic experience."
mircea_popescu: anyway, a casual inspection shows numerous txns with problems this year
assbot: dpaste: 3SFFTB3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1mEdJfi )
davout: "Experiment with a diverse selection of films just for you! Choose from true-to-life color negatives or moody black & whites. Give slide emulsions a go or try your luck with expired rolls."
mircea_popescu: davout happen to see any of those ?
davout: lemme check
davout: none
davout: but do share d8e60a0979024cce9159bd7b59594eae7dec627db5ac6bd088866afea533b0e9, you made me curious
mircea_popescu: yeah, ima have it extracted.
davout: nothing about it in my debug.log
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me, does -connect stack ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: yes
mircea_popescu: cool, ima run up a node from that cluster including the known trb nodes specifically. if you want to get yours included davout or anyone else pm me an ip.
danielpbarron: i have a trb node that is not yet full, currently at block 312275
BingoBoingo: This sheriff needs to sleep https://archive.is/K1t3x
assbot: Harney County Sheriff: Armed Occupiers Will Face Charges . News | OPB ... ( http://bit.ly/1PejoQo )
mircea_popescu: check it out, they found rip thorn's son!
mircea_popescu: “They have an opportunity right now to work towards a better solution, and not face further charges,” he said.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha. check out who has "an opportunity" and who sets the limits of who gets what opportunities.
mircea_popescu: how about "usg has an opportunity to quit infringing now and save more face than if it quits later" ?
BingoBoingo: Dude knows he's not going to get any sleep because he's been briefed on how the Bundy ranch defense still stands years later.
punkman: "If this goes on any longer, it will have an even greater impact on our tourism and local economy" lol
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ben_vulpes If you really intend to be the lord of cascadia you prolly ought to start negotiating borders and such
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: apparently not, lol, i can't even get a partay started :D
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1361106 << yes BUT THIS GIVES A USELESS UNCONNECTABLE-TO NODE
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 23:38:30; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me, does -connect stack ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was just trying to pass along some txn on the cheap.
asciilifeform: well it will really suck with a 8-max and outgoing-only turdnode.
asciilifeform: that's what you get when you -connect
asciilifeform: a non-listening node
mircea_popescu: the gist of it is that guy wants a copy of a certain txn
asciilifeform: -connect to the current trb nodes and spray it in, leave'em to broadcast
asciilifeform: that's the correct use of -connect.
mircea_popescu: it's what i was describing ima do.
asciilifeform: 173.73.235.152:8333 216.15.33.203:8333 46.166.165.30:8333 << mine
asciilifeform: all running.
assbot: Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j )
mircea_popescu: aite, be ~an hr.
punkman: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#1273 just gotta remove "mapArgs.count("-connect")" from there right?
assbot: Satoshi asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option/src/net.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLJYoG )
mircea_popescu: "He said hostility toward federal employees is taking a toll on the entire community." ahahahaha orly. is it.
asciilifeform: this reduces to behaviour of '-addnode' iirc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-01-2016#1361116 << wai wut?! that'd be like ru letting chechnya secede. (notice, even flat-broke 1990s ru could not do this, not while it had anything like an army and what to feed it)
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 00:07:54; mircea_popescu: how about "usg has an opportunity to quit infringing now and save more face than if it quits later" ?
mircea_popescu: there's really nothing wrong with bending over and taking in the ass. women the world over do it every day.
mircea_popescu: usg might enjoy it too.
asciilifeform: aha but hitler has to eat his luger first
asciilifeform: after he tires of moving imaginary, long-dead armies around on a little map
mircea_popescu: which brings us to the present day.
asciilifeform: not quite
mircea_popescu: anyway, much to my contradicted disbelief, the consensus among unconnected, aparatchick chicks on okc seems to be that "well, a) trump will win and b) that'll be tghe end of any federal government"
asciilifeform: or what, let's say word gets out that anybody wanted by a u.s. sheriff only has to make his way to the magic oregon dreamland. still no napalm ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do they know, right ? but then again... anthropologist's irk. how did all these unrelated derps manage to come to the same story.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, that's how texas was built.
mircea_popescu: literally, instead of nulla bonam the endorsement was G.T.
BingoBoingo: hitler's new questions https://archive.is/vAZyc
assbot: When are they gonna buff the cat companions? : outside ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLKNh2 )
asciilifeform: ad from BingoBoingo's link: 'a fecal transplant saved my life'
mircea_popescu: "i wasn't full of shit"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: clitler is anointed winner
mircea_popescu: only in the bunker.
asciilifeform: that's where they print the 'election' results tho
mircea_popescu: mmmm... notrly.
asciilifeform: at any rate, since when does figurehead queen get to 'end of any federal gov'
mircea_popescu: all it'd take would be for the ceiling to not be raised.
mircea_popescu: all president needs to say is that well, we're not raising it.
mircea_popescu: gorbachev moment.
asciilifeform: not how usg works
asciilifeform: ;;google usa veto override
gribble: Veto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto>; List of United States presidential vetoes - Wikipedia, the free ...: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes>; Presidential Vetoes | US House of Representatives: History, Art ...: <http://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidential-Vetoes/Presidential-Vetoes/>
mircea_popescu: he doesn't have to veto anything.
mircea_popescu: just sit on hands next budget scandal. scheduled for... 2016.
asciilifeform: and the last time a muppet-in-chief tried to actually rule, his wife ended up picking up pieces of his head
mircea_popescu: but not bothering is not the same.
asciilifeform: and what, mr o bothered ?
mircea_popescu: ooooo yeah. pretty much the only thing bahamas did was the entire boehner derpitude.
asciilifeform: and if he hadn't ?
mircea_popescu: however, the way the winnings and losses were distributed there, it seems altogether unlikely that ever happens again.
mircea_popescu: if he hadn't the vacation would have been permanent.
mircea_popescu: and in a year';s time, no more usg, not ever again.
asciilifeform: you know they only send the clerks home, on 'vacation'
asciilifeform: not the einsatzgruppen.
assbot: National Review Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLLLKa )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and the last time a muppet-in-chief tried to actually rule, his wife ended up picking up pieces of his head << Carter nearly tried, also nearly eaten by rabbit
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: translate for humans plox
pete_dushenski: "100! 100!" << what's this translate to in english ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Typical black twitter drama, but Oregon militia gets banned.
asciilifeform: yes but what does it mean
asciilifeform: 'none of y'all about this'
asciilifeform: this doesn't parse
pete_dushenski: "can't touch this" ?
BingoBoingo: Not mean to parse, it's essentially a long explative denoting anger
asciilifeform: he uses 'glock 19' instead of gearshift knob in car ?
punkman: ;;ud be about it
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=be+about+it | be about it. An ethnocentric phrase of African American origin meaning: 1.) Taking a specific endeavor seriously and putting forth an honest and prudent effort. 2.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33450 @ 0.00049598 = 16.5905 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He used to play pokemon with concussions. Retired as a master after collecting them all.
asciilifeform finds it lulzy that mircea_popescu and perhaps other thinking folks outside the razor wire believe that the ceremonial usaschwitz kommendant elections are actually ~about~ something. in actuality, they are rather like the fighting of certain ruminants, e.g., mountain sheep, whose horns are set at such an angle that they cannot harm one another
asciilifeform: as a very wealthy usg-dod consultant once said to me, 'i don't give a flying fuck whether it is the democrats, the republicans, or the lesbians, who win'
pete_dushenski: "Examples: 1.) Our mid-terms are coming up soon, so you better be about it and study hard to pass. 2.) As a member of the National Association of Black Journalist, we are expected to be about it."
asciilifeform: precisely that.
asciilifeform: american elections are exactly as interesting as the soviet elections, and for exactly the same reason.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 00:10:26; punkman: "If this goes on any longer, it will have an even greater impact on our tourism and local economy" lol
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, "During the year, landlords raised rents as much as 15% in the Brush Park district, 14% in New Center and 10% in the areas around Wayne State University and the Detroit Medical Center, according to a Midtown Detroit survey." << rents went from $1 to $1.15 per square metre per year in detroit !
asciilifeform: (anybody even remember him ?)
pete_dushenski: !s eric frein
assbot: 16 results for 'eric frein' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=eric+frein
assbot: BitBet - Eric Frein to receive death sentence :: 0.08 B (38%) on Yes, 0.13 B (62%) on No | closed 3 months 1 week ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLNlM4 )
asciilifeform: nobody even gave enough of a fuck to bet...
pete_dushenski: frein < eth
asciilifeform: because ~will~ is not enough. you ALSO need brain, and resources.
asciilifeform: and even then likely you get to say hello to the cathars.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59850 @ 0.00049558 = 29.6605 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: wake me up when moscow is air-supplying oregon phortress of phreeeeedom with SAM rockets, food, and cheap whores every 48h - like usg is resupplying kiev
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe if we ping Herr Orlov enough it will be done?
deedbot-: [Qntra] US Doctors To Move From Stitching To Snitching On President's Orders - http://qntra.net/2016/01/us-doctors-to-move-from-stitching-to-snitching-on-presidents-orders/
pete_dushenski: lel nice title
pete_dushenski: i like it
BingoBoingo: ty, just a couple minor edits
BingoBoingo: Mostly making sure Hussein precedes Bahamas
BingoBoingo: can never do that enough
BingoBoingo: ;;google hussein bahamas
pete_dushenski: i-before-e
gribble: President Hussein Bahamas Ends National Security Speech With ...: <http://qntra.net/2015/11/president-hussein-bahamas-ends-national-security-speech-with-happy-thanksgiving/>; Obama at ASEAN: Money Overwhelms Ideas | Qntra: <http://qntra.net/2015/11/obama-at-asean-money-overwhelms-ideas/>; Trump Proposes "Closing Up the Internet" | Qntra: <http://qntra.net/2015/12/trump-proposes- (1 more message)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: snore. see earlier thread re: figurehead queen. mr o decreed merely that old laws are to be (shock!) enforced.
asciilifeform: and even this was an almost exact copy of the... last time.
asciilifeform: prolly used the same ms word doc.
pete_dushenski: this is nyooz goddamit !!!1
pete_dushenski: bahamas ~cried~
pete_dushenski: real, honest to goodness alligator tears
asciilifeform: qntra - pravda now? reporting on gorbachev's decrees ? (anybody remember his booze prohibition ?)
assbot: Obama Brings Fish to Orgasm In Alaska Vacation Hijinks | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLOkvU )
asciilifeform: see now ~that~ was nyooz.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i did ask if you wanted any specific links in there...
asciilifeform: i don't recall bush 'handjobbing' a fish.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You gotta anticipate this. If you talk Bahamas you gotta bring that up for the SEO
BingoBoingo: Especially on contravex and any other web domain you publish.
pete_dushenski will endeavour to anticipate moar
BingoBoingo: Seriously pete as not the editor of their competitor you could probably write to Roger VERified bitcoin.com and get them to have a link to the fish handjob
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: bush opened gitmo though
pete_dushenski: as 'detention camp'
BingoBoingo: Bush was dry drunk on O'Douls the whole time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4367 @ 0.00049454 = 2.1597 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: 39 great photos from Obama's presidency - POLITICO ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRGaeR )
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla ^
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: haha ya. caz killed it with that one coindesk conpherence
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency rmb
gribble: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 2820.26, vol: 52880.32960000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2820.26
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, pete_dushenski, other apple iron aficionados - anybody do the capslock mod ( https://github.com/cfenollosa/aekii ) ?
assbot: cfenollosa/aekii · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLPQ0W )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1361091 << lulzy, somebody inherited a warehouse full of old junk, monetized !
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 23:31:03; punkman: http://shop.lomography.com/en
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1361076 << say what you like about proper-isis, but it has chix. and food. and tanks...
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 23:15:10; BingoBoingo: So the next chapter of VanillaISIS knows to establish an embassy with tmsr before seceeding
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1361049 << is this where we learn that nobody's mining off trb ?
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2016 22:59:23; mircea_popescu: alternatively you could also ask various monkeys masquerading as "bitcoin devs" why the fuck they broke the protocol and are costing you money.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: just using capslock as 'control' ?
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: but it has to be cured first
asciilifeform: (those keyboards had a mechanically-locking toggle)
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-01-2016#1361272 < id be surprised if anyone outside ba even uses the thing let alone mine with it. there arent any miners here.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 01:27:22; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2016#1361049 << is this where we learn that nobody's mining off trb ?
asciilifeform: !s mining is a bug
assbot: 2 results for 'mining is a bug' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mining+is+a+bug
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: right. but i... use model m. thus, no locking problems. only apple keyboard i have is ~10 years old, white thingy. also no prob.
pete_dushenski: anyways, neat re-jiggery
kakobrekla: you dont trully appreciate model-m until you come off it.
pete_dushenski: off to see the wizard. one love !
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00049355 = 3.134 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: '...a Common Lisp package and libraries called MockMMA. see the directory for a recent revision of this Mockmma. This version is more directed to being compatible with the source-forge program Maxima, even if Maxima is being run in GCL, a Lisp dialect lacking in full upper-lower case control. (This is a disadvantage because Mathematica uses many mixed-case identifiers). To the user, this somewhat resembles Mathematica (tm), bu
asciilifeform: t has the advantage of being totally open (full source code). One can manipulate polynomials in several variables over the integers, rational functions, and a variety of other mathematical objects. Manipulations include simplification, differentiation, integration, evaluation, pattern matching, etc.'
assbot: Index of /~fateman/lisp/mma4max ... ( http://bit.ly/1OLoKbv )
asciilifeform: 'While I'm pointing to old software, here's where you can get a free copy of the final (1982?) university release of Franz Lisp Opus 38.92 for VAX. I don't know why you would want this old stuff, but the university software distribution office has closed and they left a copy with me.'
asciilifeform: and many other goodies.
asciilifeform: i kinda wonder who else i assumed were dead, is actually not only alive but has a spiffy www.
assbot: Maxima -- GPL CAS based on DOE-MACSYMA / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1mEwrTT )
asciilifeform: 'Well, as far as I could tell circa 2009, this programmer took my code and disabled 95% of the capabilities that I put in it. He then put his version on sourceforge and used my name for it, MockMMA. What did he do? He did some data structure translation and attached the parser superficially to the Maxima system back end so that individual commands like _Integrate_ worked to call Maxima's _integrate_....'
asciilifeform wonders the usual 'why??!11??'
assbot: dpaste: 0E5T2C1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1mExcws )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15748 @ 0.00049777 = 7.8389 BTC [+] {2}
mats: lol, linode pwned again, for the fourth time in as many years
thestringpuller: asciilifeform is right. VPS services are the canadian devil.
asciilifeform: wai wut
thestringpuller: def need a WoT datacenter soon.
asciilifeform: who even used it
asciilifeform: (humans only plox)
thestringpuller: I was talking VPS services in general AWS, Google Cloud, Linode, et al.
thestringpuller: if you don't have physical access to the box, what's the point?
asciilifeform: aha, but ~who used it~
asciilifeform: it is possible to live in a sewer. eat from a 'dumpster.'
asciilifeform: but can you ~name~ folks who do? and do they count as a who ?
thestringpuller: do corporations count as people?
phf: <asciilifeform> 'Well, as far as I could tell circa 2009, this programmer took my code and disabled 95%<<< this is becoming more and more sop, sometimes outright theft but more typically a "new maintainer", also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-11-2015#1327527
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 20:05:06; phf: it's just impressions. i've been looking at a lot of high traction common lisp code (top quicklisp packages) and there's a lot of senseless turd polishing in the past few years. broken interfaces for the sake of "cleanliness", half baked code, needless macros, dependency hell etc. and then you look at the code and it's the same set of aggressive, google employed queergenders.
BingoBoingo: !up dbclk
BingoBoingo: !up funkenstein_
BingoBoingo: !up massiro
dbclk: hello
dbclk: finally..thanks for the add
BingoBoingo: What add?
funkenstein_: happy new year boingo
kakobrekla: i think he means voice
dbclk: well..allowing me to have a voice here
BingoBoingo: you too funkenstein_
dbclk: the last time i tried talking here..it said i need to have some wirc account..i dont remember
kakobrekla: dbclk it doesnt last for too long so make it count
dbclk: :(
BingoBoingo: dbclk: Ah, expires after 30 minute, you could have asked before. Also gotta register a WoT key and get rated
dbclk: yeah WoT
dbclk: that sounds like a long process
dbclk: :(
BingoBoingo: If you make your voiced time count, more likely to mebbe be able to voice self
kakobrekla: life is also a long process, usually, do you skip that too?
BingoBoingo: The only thing longer than doing it is not doing it.
dbclk: that's true
dbclk: anyways..i'm a day trader..well just started recently traded my own money with bitcoins
dbclk: i've made good trades but, mostly terrible ones ..reading a book on trading but i'm seeking a mentor
dbclk: so just asking if there's anyone here looking for someone to mentor
BingoBoingo: !up PeterL
BingoBoingo: What do you trade Bitcoins against?
kakobrekla: afaik taleb can teach you a few things about trading but this place is investors mostly, not traders.
PeterL: hi BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: hai PeterL
dbclk: BingoBoingo: against USD
PeterL: buy high, sell low!
BingoBoingo: buy high sell higher
dbclk: lol
BingoBoingo: And don't forget to hodl
dbclk: if it was that easy :)
PeterL: buy high, wonder what the hell you were doing after the drugs wear off
dbclk: even looking at the 1 hr chart against the BTC/USD..it looks like a triple top
dbclk: but, not quite sure ..because, on each peeks you have progressively less and less volume until it breaks the neckline
PeterL: the magic ball says ...
dbclk: what i'm seeing on the chart is consistent volumes and no declines
BingoBoingo: dbclk: You could learn to trade like me, but that means unlearning things like "triple top"
dbclk: hmm
dbclk: you dont use technical analysis BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: dbclk: Not in the way you seem to.
PeterL: ;;8ball buy now?
gribble: _I_ don't know.
dbclk: :(
BingoBoingo trades slow
dbclk: you do this full time BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: No, like 10 minutes every 3 months or so
dbclk: oh so you have a full time job
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin stuff full time, yes. Trading like 0.17% time
dbclk: ok
dbclk: well my intention is to do this fulltime
dbclk: and i like trading to be honest apart from the fact i'm loosing money
BingoBoingo: That's a problem
dbclk: how so?
BingoBoingo: Well, the losing money part, if you step that up to full time you're sunk.
PeterL: as my mother says, "the best way to save money is to not spend it"
BingoBoingo: The better trader you are the less time you spend trading. I just enter orders into the book and wait for them to be filled or not filled.
dbclk: i agree BingoBoingo
dbclk: well already doing it full time...i wouldn't blame technical analysis...just need to finish learn
PeterL: dbclk: how much capital do you have available to play with?
dbclk: i think it can help quiet bit..the time i do loose money is when i'm trading randomly
dbclk: not much
BingoBoingo: But pick swings that take months, not minutes, and prolly pick a pair with better exchanges than BTC/USD
dbclk: about 10 Gs
dbclk: which other pair BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: ALSO BEST KOREA CLAIMS HYDROGEN BOMB TEST
trinque: oh boy
BingoBoingo: dbclk: That's for you to decide
dbclk: well yeah i was doing trades ..like minutes
dbclk: but, i get you..i rather do it slowly rather than quickly
dbclk: and come to think of it..i mostly loose money that way
trinque: lil kim jong must need a new shipment of henney
dbclk: anyways thanks for the advice folks
dbclk: one last question BingoBoingo
dbclk: you do use technical analysis for like picking resistance, support and retracements right?
dbclk: and you also dont use patterns as well? anyone here use trading patterns?
BingoBoingo: Nah, I take my hand, cup my scrotum, and just man up.
trinque: !b 4
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/22TV100.txt )
danielpbarron: +dbclk> so just asking if there's anyone here looking for someone to mentor << come work for me in Eulora
phf: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35237173 << "It's completely improper... to link a group that appeared to come from North Africa with the refugees" "In Cologne at least one woman was raped and many were groped, including a volunteer policewoman." etc.
assbot: Cologne sex attacks: Merkel disgust at New Year gang assaults - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRVGr7 )
dbclk: danielpbarron: tell me where to sign up
assbot: Eulorum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Obt29b )
dbclk: thanks danielpbarron ..I'll look into it
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 03:39:38; BingoBoingo: ALSO BEST KOREA CLAIMS HYDROGEN BOMB TEST
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:01:54; asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the OTHER usa, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEhSF188x5k
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 04:23:14; asciilifeform: i prolly ought to have translated, it was a concert in honour of 81st anniversary of the korean people's army
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 4.9 earthquake 0 kilometers deep
punkman: "What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women."
phf: asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, adlai: edi weitz (cl-ppcre, hunchentoot, flexi-streams rest of ediware) published a book of common lisp recipes http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/1484211774
assbot: Common Lisp Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach: Edmund Weitz: 9781484211779: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRXsZp )
deedbot-: [Qntra] DPRK Successfully Tests Hydrogen Bomb - http://qntra.net/2016/01/dprk-successfully-tests-hydrogen-bomb/
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nah, 'diamond level' is when somebody has thermonukes in quantity AND delivery vehicle
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's triple diamond
assbot: TRON Operating System ＆ Encoding ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRYqoG )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00049323 = 2.0716 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00049617 = 4.6144 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 04:07:24; phf: asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, adlai: edi weitz (cl-ppcre, hunchentoot, flexi-streams rest of ediware) published a book of common lisp recipes http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/1484211774
asciilifeform: did order it. likely - no good, sadly. they almost never are.
asciilifeform: naggum could've written a first-class b00k
asciilifeform: if he hadn't been so busy unsuccessfully staying alive.
phf: sucks that he ended up writing book on sgml, but not on common lisp
asciilifeform: iirc somebody ~paid~ for the sgml crap
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00049631 = 13.0778 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: everybody here would ~barf~ if they knew what i do for money
mats: o_O
asciilifeform: arbeit macht frei.
mats: ^_^
asciilifeform: or, more appropriately, the buchenwald sign: jedem das seine.
phf: труд в ссср есть дело чести, славы, доблести и геройства
asciilifeform: nah, over here it's more of a работа стоит а срок идет.
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