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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 276350 @ 0.00051306 = 141.7841 BTC [+] {9}
asciilifeform: http://geoblog.rgo.ru/uploads/images/00/00/92/2012/03/07/df5d24.jpg << prisoner names scribbled in plank. all women. with birthdays
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00051541 = 6.8034 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 385077 | Current Difficulty: 7.272278064254718E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 387071 | Next Difficulty In: 1994 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 46 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00051479 = 12.2263 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Vault Of Satoshi Is Closing – Why? | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PLhNqn )
deedbot-: [Qntra] Biggest Difficulty Increase In a Year - http://qntra.net/2015/11/biggest-difficulty-increase-in-a-year/
pete_dushenski: canadians are... embarrassingly dumb and expectant. quite like this.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell adlai I got this one
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: and for the unawares, Stevan Jovanovich using 'rogers' email indicates that he's a client of the country's largest telco, and that if his comment's place and content weren't sufficiently informative as to his demographic placement, he's almost certainly in his 50's.
assbot: Vault Of Satoshi Is Closing – Why? | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMAmVh )
assbot: Questions over bomb detectors in Sharm el-Sheikh hotels - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMAyDZ )
trinque: easy come, easy go
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85950 @ 0.00051724 = 44.4568 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Gangs of New York: Sicilian mafia offers Big Apple protection from 'psychopathic' ISIS — RT USA ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMBjNg )
trinque: "The mafia has a bad reputation, but much of that's undeserved," says Gambino, who moved to Brooklyn in 1988. "As with everything in life, there are good, bad and ugly parts – the rise of global terrorism gives the mafia a chance to show its good side."
BingoBoingo: lol >> http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/minority-police-group-expected-to-announce-no-confidence-in-st/article_3bc760d9-a153-5f00-a386-9e94f31849bf.html >> "Sgt. Darren Wilson, who was the president of the society for three years, was suspended amid investigations that as much as $200,000 went missing from the group."
assbot: Minority police group expected to announce no confidence in St. Louis police chief : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMByYE )
BingoBoingo: ;;gooogle darren wilson
gribble: Error: "gooogle" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: ;;google darren wilson
gribble: The Man Who Shot Michael Brown - The New Yorker: <http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop>; Darren Wilson Is Racist, As It Turns Out - Gawker: <http://gawker.com/darren-wilson-is-racist-as-it-turns-out-1721753992>; Darren Wilson opens up about life in seclusion after Ferguson ...: <http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/04/us/darren-wilson-new-yorker-interview/>
btcdrak: Instant karma - some dae'sh doosh boasting about Paris attacks gets hit by a missile on camera while spewing his diatribe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJo38dWJpXE&t=13m37s the timing is incredible.
assbot: LETHAL ATTACKING & AIRSTRIKES OVER ISIS - SYRIA WAR - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMBW9u )
BingoBoingo: nice one
btcdrak: I normally abhor war and violence but I laughed so hard when I saw that.
trinque: then allow me to applaud for you
trinque: nice shot, russia.
btcdrak: heh
pete_dushenski: btcdrak: what's wrong with war and violence again ?
pete_dushenski: (assuming you're not on the front lines in the trenches)
trinque: good screaming too. you gotta hope that if you get blown apart there's at least someone there to scream over the giblets.
mircea_popescu: "almost certainly in his 50's." sounds about right.
mircea_popescu: <btcdrak> where is Branda, lmao https://twitter.com/bren_fdez/status/668928518932275200 << da fuck was that ?!
btcdrak: mircea_popescu: she kept mentioning bitcoin-assets, I assumed she was in this channel.
pete_dushenski: ;;seen brendafdez
gribble: brendafdez was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 34 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 24 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <brendafdez> mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering.
mircea_popescu: that dude is pretty lulzy tho. "i like thinking outloud on shitter, it helps me gauge how deep in the latrine i am"
pete_dushenski: "if the community tells me my ideas are valuable, a magic wand is waved and so it becomes ! and with it so too do i become a real boy !"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the top girl's calfs will cramp in no time in that position
pete_dushenski: as long as she doesn't twitch and break the table, so nothing.
BingoBoingo: Dose with a calcium channel blocker prophylactically, risk abated
BingoBoingo: Crazy knows no borders https://archive.is/Wjsv7
assbot: Any Anime fans here? Anti western cosplayers movement ... ( http://bit.ly/1QFdPzN )
BingoBoingo: ^ From Thermos's other, other forum
mircea_popescu: "is racist", what's that even mean @gawker ?
mircea_popescu: Jay Hathaway said something with numbers in it once so Jay Hathaway is mathematician ? something like that ?
pete_dushenski: "In the past, when companies implemented labor-saving technology -- whether assembly lines or computers -- their workers didn’t simply go on the unemployment rolls. They became more productive than before, and commanded higher wages. If they got laid off, they eventually found jobs at other companies -- and since the economy overall was more productive because of the innovation, more new companies were started
pete_dushenski: . In the past, automation has always complemented human beings instead of making them irrelevant. That might change in the future, but so far the old pattern is still holding." << mr. 'noahpinion' on the history of innovation, in a nutshell, and pretty much straight from his 'social studies 10' textbook. because that's where facts come from : the dumb mouths of high school teachers and the sputum-cum-textbooks t
pete_dushenski: hey're forced to 'teach' from.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/16/noahthority-and-economists/ << for those who've forgotten who this tardconomist is.
assbot: Noahthority and “economists” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkP87M )
pete_dushenski: " the Industrial Revolution began in Europe, rather than in China, because European employers were forced to pay more for labor. Since labor was more expensive, companies invested in technology, which then raised productivity so much that it boosted wages even higher," << this is actually just lulzy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19146 @ 0.00051524 = 9.8648 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: well, they want the entire "higher wages = technology" argument.
mircea_popescu: which... whatever. you can pay ustards any amount of fake money you want, up to and including infinity. they're still goners.
pete_dushenski: at the turn of the 19th century, european INDIVIDUALS - (companies shmumpanies) - invested in technology because they had the freedom and inclination to do so, unlike the chinese, apparently.
mircea_popescu: no, no, can't talk of individuals. this is socialism.
mircea_popescu: gotta be "companies", as if such a thing even existed in any sense any recent derp would be familiar with.
mircea_popescu: forget corporation sole and all that actual history, it wasn't on Cheers.
pete_dushenski: well 'hudson's bay co did this' and 'east india company did that' is pretty much as far as the minds of american tv watchers go.
pete_dushenski: who made up these co's ? "we ! the people !"
pete_dushenski: imsureyoudid.
pete_dushenski: more likely : your ancestors lived off the table scraps of the adventurers and businessmen, then as now.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "productivity" claptrap is irrelevant. england just had a good moat.
mircea_popescu: china did not.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00051836 = 31.4385 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: this figures way higher than "oh, president bahamas of london 1715 - what do you mean he didn't exist, not like he's a recent invention dun be racist! - forced companies to pay more in wages which is why manna fell from the heaven as it certainly will now!!1"
mircea_popescu: but whatever, easier to write fiction than get a job. like any fifteen year old with a "backup plan" knows full well.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119100 @ 0.00051515 = 61.3544 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: lulziest part is how 'noahpinions' can't find a single supporter who agrees with his dumb puppet mouth in the 124 comments. even the english-speaking male internetists knows enough to call a fraud when it sees one.
pete_dushenski: (article was on bloombergview, hence, male readers)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00051401 = 7.1704 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: either that or they're more into trolling
pete_dushenski: hey random query : why isn't bit4x on mpex ?
mircea_popescu: never really seemed all that interested. we are waiting on an assbot interface being implemented tho, as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188589
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 21:33:29; kakobrekla: right now there are more urgent things on the plate, once api is working as id like we can do something like dat. until then you can run the platform with wine.
pete_dushenski: "The rogue root certificate in new Dell computers – a certificate that allows people to be spied on when banking and shopping online – will magically reinstall itself even when deleted."
pete_dushenski: "According to an analysis [PDF] by Duo Security, a bundled plugin reinstalls the root CA file if it is removed. First, you must delete Dell.Foundation.Agent.Plugins.eDell.dll from your system (search for it) and then remove the eDellRoot root CA certificate."
pete_dushenski: "The cert, we're told, is used with the plugin for receiving cryptographically signed telemetry requests; said telemetry includes things like the machine's service tag, a seven-character serial number that identifies the computer model, if not the individual machine."
assbot: Superfish 2.0 worsens: Dell's dodgy security certificate is an unkillable zombie • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMFWqC )
pete_dushenski: "Google received more than 65 million removal requests for search results containing alleged copyright violations in the space of the past month." << in other nyooz, the equivalent of vw's emissions bypassing tech is pirating musak so many times that the 'regulator' just throws up his arms in dismay and walks out the door without saying another word, never to return.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't count unless it's racist. google is tech, vw is manufacturing.
mircea_popescu: manufacturing is racist.
pete_dushenski: fooey, tech is da MOST racist. ask 'computers be racist and shit' dood
mircea_popescu: fortunately rakim has no say in setting the narrative.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147811 @ 0.0005072 = 74.9697 BTC [-] {4}
pete_dushenski: ;;seen mats
gribble: mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 3 hours, 42 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <mats> rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know
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deedbot-: [Trilema] "Say my name, say my name..." - http://trilema.com/2015/say-my-name-say-my-name/
pete_dushenski: "why is it that you expect your boyfriend introduce you to his friends ?" << missing a 'to', mircea_popescu ?
pete_dushenski refocuses trilemascope, fiddles dials and knobs until image on slide bears slightly crisper edges.
pete_dushenski: "If you make it half a million you just happen to be at the cusp of what the scum perceives as "Oprah rich" and they just almost kinda go for it," << coinkidink of coinkidinks, the token insurance salesman in my choir has recently set his eyes on me and yesterday pitched me EXACTLY 500k of life insurance coverage in exchange for $25/mo.
pete_dushenski: "rich people all buy it" he tells me, "ask any old person and they'll tell you to do it too !"
pete_dushenski: token old fart dutifully chimes in "pete, you have a kid now, buy life insurance !"
pete_dushenski: as if 500k is changing anyone's life. imsureitis.
pete_dushenski: and as if any sum of money is going to replace me. ha !
pete_dushenski: go ahead, go, buy, another me. here's 500k. start shoppin' !
pete_dushenski wants to at least imagine that this would be a difficult and trying purchase experience.
pete_dushenski: ok, 500k could conceivably change ~someone's~ life, but not mein heir's. he would suffer loss could not possibly by papered over by money.
pete_dushenski: *loss that
pete_dushenski: and with that, i wish thee all a good night :)
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assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1SgVxT0 )
assbot: 360 Security: Kardashian protects your mobile life - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1SgXH52 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.00050226 = 26.8709 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you will note that the thing discussed in my article was health insurance, which is a contingency sort of deal. life "insurance" has nothing to do with this, as everyone dies. as practiced it is moreover a sort of heavily discounted investment plan\
mircea_popescu: moreover,
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 25*12*50
gribble: 15000
mircea_popescu: makes 0 sense. to be paid 500k when you die, even starting as a 20yo man you'd have to do at least 500 bucks a month in premiums.
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shinohai: Oh shit
shinohai: 1 pilot ded
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danielpbarron: wyrdmantis, you get checked-in to Eulora yet?
wyrdmantis: danielpbarron, no i'm having issues on both mac and win...
wyrdmantis: waiting for phf to give a mercyful hand :D
wyrdmantis: but i'm also looking to fire up a linux box
danielpbarron: ping me when you get it working and need something to do
wyrdmantis: sure! thanks
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shinohai awaits a cli or text-based Eulora client.
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punkman: so one of those linear halogen bulbs exploded next to me and rained hot glass. almost got me even though bulb was facing the wall and had a half-cylinder glass cover.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> makes 0 sense. to be paid 500k when you die, even starting as a 20yo man you'd have to do at least 500 bucks a month in premiums. << Such deal are typically "term" policies expiring in 5 years
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00050575 = 20.23 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up ozbot
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330787 <-- hint: how many hours of wages were saved up to build the three gorges dam?
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 08:47:46; mircea_popescu: makes 0 sense. to be paid 500k when you die, even starting as a 20yo man you'd have to do at least 500 bucks a month in premiums.
funkenstein_: how many months of USan salary were saved to pay to rip out the olive trees of palestine?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37323 @ 0.00050468 = 18.8362 BTC [-] {2}
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330691 <-- srs or trolling?
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 06:20:12; pete_dushenski: btcdrak: what's wrong with war and violence again ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70399 @ 0.00051183 = 36.0323 BTC [+] {4}
funkenstein_: this rainmaker piece is anecdotal evidence of ghandi's behavioral hypothesis
mircea_popescu: <wyrdmantis> Turkey is playing with fire http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/24/ruaf-su-24-shot-down-by-turkey/ << well at least it shows the damned things to be vulnerable.
mircea_popescu: oh nm, it's the ancient su
mircea_popescu: lol turkey shot a fencer, herp.
mircea_popescu: punkman go throught chemical exposure protection cycle rightnao.
mircea_popescu: that shit is worth 10k micromorts or something.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aha.
mircea_popescu: i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33866 @ 0.00050996 = 17.2703 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: mircea_popescu: what's the cycle?
mircea_popescu: remove and seal all clothing, wash in abundant water, have air in space vacuumed throw out, wash the surfaces in acid
mircea_popescu: mercury's a bitch.
mircea_popescu: expect ~1 cubic metre of assorted toxic waste per exploded shitbulb.
punkman: not sure these have any mercury in them
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, if you didn't know - this is pretty much the only thing where a vacuum cleanner that was supposed to have its bag changed weeks ago is good for - but boy is it great for it.)
mircea_popescu: punkman they pretty much all have ; the other heavy metals they could have are not much better.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140800 @ 0.00050326 = 70.859 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform: oh for fucks sake there is no hg in a halogen tube !
asciilifeform: the long, narrow, yellow light thing that explodes
punkman: it did burn the wooden floor
asciilifeform: there is I and Br
asciilifeform: and a tungsten filament, same as in normal light bulb.
mircea_popescu: punkman those aren't the kind that cut through teh glass
mircea_popescu: i mean asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: halogen lamps routinely pop, for same reason as the fact that you can cut a glass bottle with a rope, some petrol, and a match
asciilifeform: 'hot spot' effect
mircea_popescu: yes. but when they do they don't cut through the fucking glass protector and burn the floor!
punkman: they didn't destroy the glass cover
mircea_popescu: i thought you said ?
punkman: it allows air, not enclosed
asciilifeform: typically the cover is only a half-cylinder and frags get around it
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years. << Aha. The scam is rates to renew policy gradually increase up until 40-50 years of age and then insurance company is all "lol, nope" which makes derps wonder where "affordable" life inurance went when they had no such thing before. Customer backloads their risk, insurance company frontloads theirs and whoever quits the game of chicken first wi
BingoBoingo: ns the money.
mircea_popescu: well, br exposure, not the end of the world. wash the place, but at leasr you get to keep your clothes.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ayup.
BingoBoingo: Everyone feels good in the beginning, at least one party feels good in the end.
mircea_popescu: punkman if it doesn't get up as much as before for a few weeks the effect's supposed to go away.
punkman: mircea_popescu: which
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83200 @ 0.00050189 = 41.7572 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, where do you buy your metal-halide lamps that are ACTUALLY free of mercury ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: oh you mean teh cock?
mircea_popescu: yes i man the cock. i was reasurring you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what would hg be doing in a halogen lamp ?
punkman: MH lamp is different
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mh and halogen are different things!
asciilifeform: look for hg in the traditional fluorescent lamp, incl. the 'craplamp' mircea_popescu was probably thinking of earlier
asciilifeform: the one with the coiled tube, chinese transformer, and cock that screws into standard edison socket
mircea_popescu: that's a ballast not a transformer!
asciilifeform: neither, actually. they tend to be solid-state monstrosities
asciilifeform: iirc it's something like a cockcroft-walton 'ladder' in there
mircea_popescu: well anyway. mercury usually makes for negative resistivity
mircea_popescu: which means they increase draw until they explode, normally.
asciilifeform: anyway whoever wants to know whether there is hg in his lamp, can buy... a toy prism
asciilifeform: and look for the spectral lines.
asciilifeform: fizziks doesn't lie!
mircea_popescu: it cannot tell a lie.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00050951 = 32.8124 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: but, and this general point remains, you don't get to, nor should you, exclude operational costs from efficiency calculations. after you factor in the $500 to replace your favourite pair of pants you always just so happen to be wearing at the time, plus the inconvenience at billable hour cost etc, suddenly the idea to switch to "modern, energy saving, efficient" bulbs looks a lot closer to the insanity it is.
mircea_popescu: which is why the power plants don't update : they actually do the math.
asciilifeform: or LED lamp, which doesn't explode, but just expensively dies
punkman: I'm considering getting some proper LEDs, they high-wattage ones don't look too bad
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the discussion of "philips desperate to stick its shitendrils in here before led takes over" i think
asciilifeform: punkman: the one downer is that none of the high-brightness (equiv. to 100+ W edison bulb) led lamps fit in a traditional glass dome designed for classic lamp
asciilifeform: the heat sink, likewise, needs airflow
punkman: indeed
asciilifeform: which is typically not available in a dome
mircea_popescu figures in short order fucking tables will "no longer be able to cool passively".
asciilifeform: eventually the rectifier melts.
mircea_popescu: i recall a time when my gpu did
mircea_popescu: now the lightbulbs need fucking fans.
asciilifeform: no fan in these
asciilifeform: just 'hedgehog'
mircea_popescu: not fucking yet.
asciilifeform: but air must rise through it
assbot: 1000W LED Flashlight - Worlds Brightest (90,000 Lumens) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IdLacZ )
mircea_popescu: wait for the "new, cooler, XPOWER bla bla"
deedbot-: [Qntra] Small Electric Co-op Faces Off With Illinois Over Delinquency - http://qntra.net/2015/11/small-electric-co-op-faces-off-with-illinois-over-delinquency/
BingoBoingo: Failed state is phun
mircea_popescu: "The Cooperative is declining to name the Illinois state agencies and buildings which will be affecting by" why the fuck ?
BingoBoingo: That bullshit pushed as us business pseudo-ethics
BingoBoingo: "We don't talk about our customers except when we do"
mircea_popescu: the notion that government agents/agencies have ANY right to privacy is the highest grade of lulz.
mircea_popescu: used to be what distinguished the third world, too.
BingoBoingo: This is the third world.
BingoBoingo: Albeit, the better corner of Illinois
asciilifeform: the first, biggest, best, third world!
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mircea_popescu: nation of africa-america!
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mircea_popescu: http://www.zerocensorship.com/t/uncensored-syria-war/194992-u-s-backed-rebels-down-russian-helicopter-in-syria << seeing how us airships made of paiper mache, curious what the russians do next.
assbot: Syria War - U.S. backed rebels down Russian helicopter in Syria - Uncensored ... ( http://bit.ly/1MAayha )
BingoBoingo: "Accidents"
mircea_popescu: "USS Mount Whitney sunk by russian backed syrian/ukrainian/whatever rebels"
BingoBoingo: USS Cole mistaken for ISIS Corvette
BingoBoingo: I mean enough US gears is in ISIS hands Russia had to assume the US infared IFF market meant ISIS had taken that warship as loot
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo damned tging nearly burned down in croatia this summer anyway.
mircea_popescu: "most advanced rust bucket on the high seas"
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kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330741 < one problem is that i am, among other things, the sole treasurer for the company and i am getting tired of it
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 06:50:51; pete_dushenski: hey random query : why isn't bit4x on mpex ?
kakobrekla: as it is now i dont have any obligation to keep it running, if one day i wake up and have enough i can just shut it down singlehandedly - if listed anywhere, this changes
mircea_popescu: myeah. one classical problem the corporations were for is that usually ventures require a lot of dedication, and people got lives to live.
kakobrekla: if this was a fiat company there would be no such issue
kakobrekla: however bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: "fiat company" is not really a thing.
mircea_popescu: if this were a fiat company it just wouldn't exist.
kakobrekla: you know what i mean
mircea_popescu: not really.
kakobrekla: most people know how to use banks, most people dont know how to use bitcoin (at least approximately correctly)
mircea_popescu: now i know what you mean.
kakobrekla: anyway, when we were doing bitbet i was explicit about not wanting to handle other peoples money
mircea_popescu: most people are used to getting raped by banks, and have enough respect to stfu and kiss the bloodied, dripping penis in thanks.
mircea_popescu: most people don't know how to walk on two feet, meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: yes, tru.
kakobrekla: here the story was different, it was my condition that i am the treasurer if we are doing this
kakobrekla: and so i am not fungible
kakobrekla: this was a double edged sword.
mircea_popescu: it's a reasonable condition. iirc the bitbet thing was a straight meeting of the minds, i wasn't going to do it with anyone else as treasurer anyway.
mircea_popescu: truth be told the wot is not old enough yet.
kakobrekla: well your idea was that i would periodically flush btc to you, which i declined.
mircea_popescu: a right.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74662 @ 0.00051102 = 38.1538 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: how long can mircea_popescu go without looking at his main computer once ?
asciilifeform: iirc he was once at sea for three whole days
mircea_popescu: i know what you're saying, man. i fully know what you're saying.
mircea_popescu: wasn't arguing with it to any degree.
deedbot-: [Trilema] One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - http://trilema.com/2015/one-flew-over-the-cuckoos-nest/
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thestringpuller: Is there a reason everyone wants shit done like the day before you take vacation?
thestringpuller: It's uncanny.
phf: the trick is to leave on vacation two days before you told everyone you're going
phf: those who matter will know the right date anyway, but the ones that have "needs" are so disorganized they would think they misunderstood you
mircea_popescu: i've just had the world's worst peach. what the fuck this tree should be ashamed of itself.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32924 @ 0.00050098 = 16.4943 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: phf: that's fucking brilliant. also astute observation of why people send requests the day before a vacation begins. funny how many disorganized people end up in an ofice.
trinque: in flatland anyway.
thestringpuller: lol trilema's banner is officially NSFW
thestringpuller: i will shamelessly open it in work anyways
mircea_popescu: i dun think trilema was ever sfw anyway.
mircea_popescu: damned subversives.
adlai almost wishes One Flew would've been a mediocre movie, then maybe more people would read the book
adlai: because it's excellent
adlai: the movie is good, very good. but as long as the book's around, it'll only be second best
adlai: the book is quite different from the movie, in that the movie merely tells a story, whereas the book takes the slightest baby step towards actually placing you inside the main character's head
adlai: and the main character is neither jack nicholson nor randall mcmurphy
mircea_popescu: imo this is one of those situations where the better movie makes the book its bitch. yes the book is longer and goes into more detail, as a book has space to do. but this is a twin edged sword
adlai: well i guess mcmurphy is the "main character", but the book has a narrator. i'm not sure i've seen a movie yet where narration didn't interfere with the story
mircea_popescu: the chief narrator device is mostly there to insulate the author from tyhe material, best i can tell.
mircea_popescu: anyway, stroke of luck mostly, god only knows what'd have happened if one of the douglas hack clan ended up with the role.
mircea_popescu: also mildly interesting, how that toothpaste-commercial-and-soap-opera extra got the nurse part.
mircea_popescu: forman blessfuly caught on eventually that the personification of evil has to be familiar, not visibly "evil".
adlai: what do you mean by "insulate the author"? ken kesey's writing process was a rather uninsulated anthropological investigation...
mircea_popescu: i suppose all the lsd and mental hospital moonlighting are there because he's all secure in his dominion, right.
thestringpuller: adlai: didn't that happen with fight club as well?
adlai hasn't read the book
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i dunno if you did this deliberately or not, but really, it's too smooth to not credit you with it.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, palahniuk loved the movie adaptation ; kensey hated it.
mircea_popescu: notably, he didn't hate it for any reason, other than being a vocal leader in the "book was better" chorus ; and for the director very sensibly removing the chief narrator clingwrap.
mircea_popescu: he never actually saw it. but he hated it, because "o noes, can't touch radioactive without chief brand mask!11"
adlai: 'kensey' is the hybrid synthesis of ken kesey and... alf kinsey?
adlai: the One Flew movie is a great movie though, in its own right. it's orthogonal to the book
mircea_popescu: kesey, kesey.
mircea_popescu: so then why'd you mention the book.
assbot: writing-c-unites-workers ... ( http://bit.ly/1T0QkPu )
adlai: the movie was good because it didn't try-and-fail to capture what the book does, which boils down to the power of humor
mircea_popescu: way i see it both try the same thing, in their own medium : describe the doomed situation of a society which has lost male force and is now going into castration mode at the hands of the decaying female biomass. it's a failure mode of human populations, well known, well understood, amply documented.
mircea_popescu: the film does a better job of this as a film than the book does a job of it as a book. arguably this is because film has less space to do it in ; countrariwise, film is more of a "tower of babel" sort of artifice, so it's harder to get anything done.
mircea_popescu: other than this mediated sort of approach, straight book-film comparisons are pretty meaningless anyway.
adlai: fight club's message, otoh, is a bit more in the "this is how you win" direction, rather than just "here's a problem, have fun dealing with it"
mircea_popescu: to me fight club is merely a coupla stages down. "we're lost - infantilism is always a refuge".
mircea_popescu: the notion that fight club is productive in any sense is pretty lulzy to me.
punkman: thestringpuller: adlai: didn't that happen with fight club as well? << I thought epilogue of the book was better than movie ending
adlai: i really disliked fight club because it lets the infantile 'rage' overshadow the parts that it shares with oneflew
mircea_popescu: which are those ?
mircea_popescu: all i see is disproportionate violence (note that mcmurphy doesn't set fire to the fucking hospital - heck he doesn't even LEAVE when he has the chance, because reasons.) and disavowal (really, the voices in your head told you to, maybe, who knows ? what are you, a dumbass us girl that has to get herself drunk to be able to have sex ?)
trinque: and then the act itself is futile.
adlai: they're both about identifying and responding to 'doomed situation'. palahniuk says, set fire to the hospital, while kesey just laughs all the way to the ECT
trinque: take a couple of buildings down and utopia!
mircea_popescu: in the book. in the film, nicholson OWNS the place.
mircea_popescu: so does the [resuscitated, through this] indian.
punkman: book ending: "With Tyler gone, the narrator waits for the bomb to explode and kill him. The bomb malfunctions because Tyler mixed paraffin into the explosives. Still alive and holding Tyler's gun, the narrator makes the first decision that is truly his own: he puts the gun in his mouth and shoots himself. Some time later, he awakens in a mental hospital, believing he is in Heaven, and
punkman: imagines an argument with God over human nature. The book ends with the narrator's being approached by hospital employees who reveal themselves to be Project members. They tell him their plans still continue, and that they are expecting Tyler to come back."
mircea_popescu: the fact that they can actually jointly own it just fine is a stronger indictment of the female-mitigated insanity than anything else could ever be.
mircea_popescu: punkman whadda you like about this ? the christic parallel ?
adlai: that's not the book ending, that's wikipedia :(
adlai: "but the territory doesn't fit in the blockchain"
mircea_popescu: which is why this is a good film./
mircea_popescu: if it fit i wouldn't have cared to review it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's a path less traveled that should be. WHY is it that redskins in the continental us HAD TO be massacred ? is it because they "couldn't fit" in its future, somehow, mysteriously ? is it perhaps because white guys wanted the depopulation to support higher wages and liberty [aka the fronteer lifestyle] ? is it perhaps because the wives of farmers "didn't feel safe" with them around ?
mircea_popescu: i don't have a straight answer, but i will say that having been in argentina for a while now and having observed the assorted insanities they sport here, grouped for convenience under the "inseguridad" thematic, i understand a lot more of the fate of the new world.
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punkman: well I just grabbed the dead tree and reread last two pages. looks pretty stupid now.
adlai also found that the book shines in its portrayal of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193607
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 19:34:29; ascii_field: far more interesting is the trait hasn eysenck called 'psychoticism'
punkman: "When I said I want what my parents had, I meant loan-free education and a nice house, not the looming threat of war with Russia."
adlai and punkman are probably discussing different books
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phf: one flew narrative is a just a vehicle for kesey to share his first explorations of acid altered perception, which are further elaborated on in electric kool-aid, second hand, by tom wolfe.
mircea_popescu: punkman ironically war with russia would have been much better for the us than this crap.
mircea_popescu: they'd have just abandoned europe like the whores that they are and under pressure they'd have stayed in a better state of preservation for longer.
adlai: "we've always been at war with Eurasia" is a much more effective "WAR IS PEACE" than "we are still in the desert" (last line of Jarhead)
mircea_popescu: ironically also better for yurp, a russian-run eu would have worked where the german-run eu is barely screeching around.\
mircea_popescu: zee germanz don't have the balls to slap heads.
mircea_popescu: should be pretty amusing to see how greece'd have looked in alt-history where CCCE dominated the small continent. "oh we won't pay".
mircea_popescu: probably have a little oblast named for them in siberia, like the jews do.
phf: (experience of The Combine as a palpable thing for example, during his pranksters period turned into attempts at active manipulation of others, i.e. The Consensus, through Control, which pranksters called "putting them into our movie". if you can put them into our movie, you can make them read our lines. etc.)
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phf: kesey couldn't care less about plight of the mentally disabled, or helping you relate to a mental patient or anything like that. it's kind of obvious from reading about him. guy was just having interesting experiences at a mental ward, writing them down, and selling the result on a threadbare socially conscious theme.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/276NJT2.txt << submission
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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deedbot-: [Qntra] Forever 21 Inc Tries Preventing Other Raspberry Pis From Running Software - http://qntra.net/2015/11/forever-21-inc-tries-preventing-other-raspberry-pis-from-running-software/
punkman: isn't forever21 the one that makes pants
BingoBoingo: punk Makes pants and resells piss
kakobrekla: there should be a bounty on the breaking of their auth system
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00051225 = 32.9889 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I don't think they mine fast enough to fund such a bounty
adlai: this isn't even worth a whole qntreatment, the headline says it all: "Zapchain Growth Proves Bitcoin Tipping Viable Social Media Model"
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330846 omg, i broke mercury thermometer near bed over a table, with drops likely fell to a carpet
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 15:17:26; mircea_popescu: expect ~1 cubic metre of assorted toxic waste per exploded shitbulb.
jurov: mom came, swept the drops, threw them out
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The clever gentleman Don Quixote de la Mancha and his trusty sidekick Andrei Pippidi, translated. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/24/the-clever-gentleman-don-quixote-de-la-mancha-and-his-trusty-sidekick-andrei-pippidi-translated/
jurov: nothing was ever done with the carpet
jurov: i'm still here
adlai: yes but (to paraphrase modern hebrew vernacular) "look how you look'
BingoBoingo: jurov: But aren't you protected by Bear Force?
jurov: dunno really, how i could look better. even the hair refuses to fall out as much as predicted
adlai: actually the mercury may have even imbued you with double astrological fortune
punkman: as long as it's not red mercury
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39891 @ 0.00050271 = 20.0536 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 19:41:30; punkman: "When I said I want what my parents had, I meant loan-free education and a nice house, not the looming threat of war with Russia."
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331086 << elemental Hg is not ~acutely~ poisonous - people have survived eating tremendous quantities in a sitting (more or less as much as would fit inside)
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 21:36:12; jurov: i'm still here
ascii_field: organic compounds of Hg - another matter entirely
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 188350 @ 0.00049939 = 94.0601 BTC [-] {5}
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331058 << yep, would have "worked" like north korea
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 19:54:52; mircea_popescu: ironically also better for yurp, a russian-run eu would have worked where the german-run eu is barely screeching around.\
BingoBoingo: !up cryptone
BingoBoingo: !up SuchWow
jurov: we have got a visi from fsf?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79189 @ 0.0005022 = 39.7687 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: BingoBoingo: what does fsf/member/jeraldv cloak mean?
SuchWow: how's it goin folks
BingoBoingo: No idea. I kinda though freenode cloaks were kinda random
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
SuchWow: freenode used to give affiliated cloaks back in the day, if you were affiliated with an open source project
cryptone: yes i am an FSF member
phf: BingoBoingo: you can get a custom first part, if you represent a sufficiently large organization
cryptone: and thanks for the +v
jurov: cryptone: it's temporary. you're welcome to register as per http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )
cryptone: cheers
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assbot: Authorities: Border agent had 110 pounds of cocaine in car - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1T1yR9m )
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
thestringpuller: ascii_field: what you doin on the field? you never take vacation?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114750 @ 0.00050049 = 57.4312 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31918 @ 0.00050178 = 16.0158 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 14:40:17; funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330691 <-- srs or trolling?
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 15:04:25; mircea_popescu: i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years.
pete_dushenski: yes, as in, your suspicion is correct
pete_dushenski: it's more like 1/10`000/year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.0005006 = 1.0513 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: hey look, mxn-cad not far off 10 year high. good news this.
pete_dushenski has mexico trip booked for february
pete_dushenski: why it didn't occur to me to check before i booked it, i can't say
pete_dushenski: but most likely explanation is that alternative, cuba, just had shittier hotels for the same price.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330859 << i was laughed at last night for telling door installer, who was trying to adjust semi-circular halogens in kitchen so that he could find a screw or bit or something, NOT TO TOUCH THE BULBS WHILE THEY WERE ON AND HOT.
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 15:24:14; asciilifeform: 'hot spot' effect
pete_dushenski: he thought i was kidding and that this was 'old wive's tale'
pete_dushenski: needless to say, i took to 'search engines' to find corroborating evidence, and every last fucking result was some derps on some derpy 'lighting' forum.
pete_dushenski: it's like no one blogs anymore.
pete_dushenski: or if they do, 'search engine' doesn't know about it.
pete_dushenski: who knows, maybe light bulb industry is sending google take-down notices for 'copyrasted infoz'
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 15:25:24; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i somehow suspect less than 1 in 500/15 young men die within 5 years. << Aha. The scam is rates to renew policy gradually increase up until 40-50 years of age and then insurance company is all "lol, nope" which makes derps wonder where "affordable" life inurance went when they had no such thing before. Customer backloads their risk, insurance company frontloads theirs and whoever quits
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19573 @ 0.00050177 = 9.8211 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: http://www.elightbulbs.com/catpics/ge/20641alg.jpg << ftr, this was the type of 'semi-circular' halogen in question.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90944 @ 0.00050041 = 45.5093 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26341 @ 0.00049813 = 13.1212 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1330898 << 'insanity' aka. 'economic growth' aka frivolous shit for the sake of frivolous shit. damn the externalised consequences as long as costs are incured. after all, moar broken windows and moar car accidents == gdp growths !!
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 15:39:59; mircea_popescu: but, and this general point remains, you don't get to, nor should you, exclude operational costs from efficiency calculations. after you factor in the $500 to replace your favourite pair of pants you always just so happen to be wearing at the time, plus the inconvenience at billable hour cost etc, suddenly the idea to switch to "modern, energy saving, efficient" bulbs looks a lot closer to the insani
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 16:33:22; kakobrekla: as it is now i dont have any obligation to keep it running, if one day i wake up and have enough i can just shut it down singlehandedly - if listed anywhere, this changes
pete_dushenski: i guess 'semi-circular' is really more of a hemispherical eh.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331057 << jarhead is, ftr, an unsurpassably effective first date movie.
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 19:53:01; adlai: "we've always been at war with Eurasia" is a much more effective "WAR IS PEACE" than "we are still in the desert" (last line of Jarhead)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52408 @ 0.00049812 = 26.1055 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: (yes, jarhead was last 'first date' movie that pete saw, and may see for some time yet)
pete_dushenski leaves math to alert reader.
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thestringpuller: weird first date movie...
pete_dushenski: well, 'normal' movies get you normal girls and normal relationships. glhf with those.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100950 @ 0.00050316 = 50.794 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: CDC says at least 19 E. coli infections linked to Costco chicken salad| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tdvhdh )
pete_dushenski: "i was too busy to cook at home". yea, well, this is what your efficiency sowed.
pete_dushenski: speaking of planting the seeds...
pete_dushenski: "Gambetta and Hertog painstakingly gather together data on individuals belonging to a variety of terrorist groups in the Muslim world. Where they are able to get the data, it displays a compelling pattern – engineers are much more prone to become members of violent terrorist organizations."
pete_dushenski: technical knowledge is WRECKING !!!1
assbot: This is the group that’s surprisingly prone to violent extremism - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdvzAQ )
pete_dushenski: "Engineers are more likely to become terrorists because of mindset and lack of opportunity" and "engineers combine these political predilections with a marked preference towards finding clearcut answers."
pete_dushenski: so it's isis' unemployed engineers vs. ustard 'risk engineers' eh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00049921 = 14.9763 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: "The team trades securities to keep rates in line with Fed policy decisions. At 12:45 p.m., a window pops open on a system called FedTrade and plays a sequence of musical notes—F-E-D—to open trading, traders said. A clock counts down the remaining time, turning from green to yellow in the final three minutes and then to red as the last 30 seconds tick off. The music plays again when the operations’ results are
pete_dushenski: ced." << heh. 'fedtrade'.
assbot: The Oxford Economist Running the Fed’s Interest-Rate Machine - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/21eQZm8 )
pete_dushenski: psa: archive.is circumvents wsj paywall.
pete_dushenski: "Harvard economist Dani Rodrik, who began compiling data on manufacturing world-wide a few years ago, says he is seeing growing evidence of what he calls “premature deindustrialization”—the idling or shrinking of manufacturing sectors as a share of the economy in poor countries like India that never industrialized very much in the first place." << in other not-nyooz where idjits with 'pc' blinders don't want to
pete_dushenski: ncomfortable truths lest they offend their dear sweet old mothers, indians are no better than africans and both are markedly lesser peoples than europeans and chinese.
assbot: For Poor Countries, Well-Worn Path to Development Turns Rocky - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/21eRfSl )
pete_dushenski: "Africa looks more like India. In South Africa, manufacturing was 15% of output in 1962 and peaked at 25%—in 1981. By 2011, the share was closer to 18%. Factory activity in fast-modernizing Ethiopia hasn’t managed to grow beyond 6% of the economy. In Tanzania, it peaked at 13% in 1976 and dropped since to around 10%."
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26984 @ 0.00050014 = 13.4958 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54416 @ 0.00049796 = 27.097 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov i'll remind you of "Three woodcutters in the nation of Georgia found two warm canisters near their camp and spent the night beside them. The canisters were discarded and unshielded heat sources from Soviet radioisotope thermoelectric generators, containing 30 kCi (1.1 PBq) of 90Sr each" not to mention http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/
assbot: A simple example as to why fiat institutions can't stand on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6W1H1 )
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 22:07:15; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331058 << yep, would have "worked" like north korea
mircea_popescu: or if you prefer, taiwan.
mircea_popescu: ie, much better than now. the empire wants them to work, and will whip them just enough to actually get some work done.
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of clark gable, "a good whipping would benefit oyu immensely my dear"
adlai: well what do you think would've happened to eussrope once the latter went former? or would it not have?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-11-2015#1331171 << and the explanation is that the engineers are the ones from whom the western governments steal to support their "social sciences" catamites.
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2015 23:57:51; pete_dushenski: "Gambetta and Hertog painstakingly gather together data on individuals belonging to a variety of terrorist groups in the Muslim world. Where they are able to get the data, it displays a compelling pattern – engineers are much more prone to become members of violent terrorist organizations."
mircea_popescu: ;;google Kramatorsk radiological accident
gribble: Kramatorsk radiological accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramatorsk_radiological_accident>; Kramatorsk source accident, 1982 - Johnston's Archive: <http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/radevents/1982USSR2.html>; Kramatorsk nuclear poisoning incident - research.omicsgroup.org: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: teh roaring 90s.
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 21:32:41; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there are multiple reasonably well-documented corpses of thieves, poachers, metal hunters, killing themselves on rtg
mircea_popescu: incidentally : thinking of the cobalt parity violation. somehow im reminded of the spin engine discussions last year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225650 @ 0.00049757 = 112.2767 BTC [-] {7}
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: well, cobalt decay convincingly proves "nature" has a handedness
asciilifeform: first such proof afaik.
mircea_popescu: the whole discussion there was chirality
mircea_popescu: and so... that's how.
asciilifeform: ah yes.
asciilifeform: that was where schwarz began, iirc.
asciilifeform: any serious business re: chirality begins with wu et al
asciilifeform: (wu was a chick, incidentally)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00049842 = 19.7374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75350 @ 0.00049751 = 37.4874 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: This girl made bread using her own vaginal yeast ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6YTUe )
adlai: << And according to Stavri – whose Twitter name is Another Angry Woman – she just wanted to see if it would work, because it “might as well make itself useful.” >>
asciilifeform: worthy addition to the pheminist cookbook
asciilifeform: y'know, the one with menstrual cookies
adlai: actually i don't and i'd rather stay uny'knowing
adlai wonders aloud how come mpex public data isn't signed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5920 @ 0.00049951 = 2.9571 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: there's zero theoretical reason trade engine couldn't give proxies signed orderbooks, but y'know what they say bout theory and practice
asciilifeform: adlai: remember the reactor rods?
adlai was on the verge of daily [originally hourly, but that would probably get him negrated by deedbot- itself] orderbook deeding, but then he realized the venture's futility
asciilifeform: adlai: my guess would be that mircea_popescu regards machine-signing, even with a key kept around solely for that purpose, as a gravely sinful thing. but you might want to actually ask ~him~ when he wakes up
adlai: asciilifeform: no, remind me pls?
asciilifeform: (and i can't find any reason to disagree with this position)
adlai: well it's in the logs, they'll ask him in my stead should i myself be 'sleep or dead
adlai: hmm "This means you can restrict access to your site based on traits including sex, ancestry, disease susceptability, and arbitrary characteristics associated with single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in a person's genotype." https://github.com/offapi/rbac-23andme-oauth2
assbot: offapi/rbac-23andme-oauth2 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6Zw0f )
asciilifeform: ancient lol
asciilifeform: and didn't the scam go bust since...?
asciilifeform: iirc it did.
adlai: "Ethnoreligious sects may wish to limit membership, e.g. Hasidic Jewish groups restricting access to Ashkenazi or Sephardic maternal haplogroups with the "Cohen" gene
adlai: ah, too bad, too bad. scams are always better before bust
adlai: BingoBoingo: next time link actual code, not 'science.slashdot.org' pls kthx
asciilifeform: what was this
adlai promises to link actual vaginal yeastbread 3dprinting recipe in return
adlai: asciilifeform: you said 'ancient lol', i searched logs more diligently, found http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209477
asciilifeform: it was some last-ditch 'any pr is good pr' gambit on the part of the sc4mz0rz ( (ex?) wife of sergey brin and co.)
phf: asciilifeform: 23andme i still operational, they were recently approved by FDA to re-enable their health section even
asciilifeform: phf: any idea what concession they made ?
asciilifeform: i personally can't be arsed to follow every single circus
phf: no idea, probably have something to do with their "compliance with law enforcement requests"?
asciilifeform: aha, the genetic arm of the 'you will give all of your bits to usg not because hanging upside down over pirannha pit but because you are stupid and gullible' brigade.
assbot: 23andMe AU, DE, FR & EU - Privacy Statement ... ( http://bit.ly/1N701aA )
phf: ^- see it's safe, if you're not a criminal you've got nothing to worry about
asciilifeform: can't wait for the first conviction
adlai: good thing non-criminals don't have to worry either! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_Database_Law
assbot: Biometric Database Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1N70iKu )
adlai: (re: "inclusion would be voluntary"... they already have every POTENTIAL recruit's biometrics, even the ones that don't get drafted. pls forget them kthx)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88871 @ 0.00049995 = 44.4311 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00049996 = 17.5986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83350 @ 0.00049996 = 41.6717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00049745 = 13.8291 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: all bread is made with "own vaginal yeast". wtf other yeast is there.
BingoBoingo: '<adlai> BingoBoingo: next time link actual code, not 'science.slashdot.org' pls kthx << Sometimes the quick chuckle passes too soon to dig so deeply
mircea_popescu: curious who ends up with the copyrights over particularly valuable genotypes.
mircea_popescu: somehow i expect not north korea
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and didn't the scam go bust since...? << Nao has second wind. FDA Approval of some medical things.
adlai: mircea_popescu: dunno, does recombinatory fucking count as prior art?
mircea_popescu: depends on whst it does to mickey mouse.
adlai: who's mickey? and what'd he do to my minnie
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 318.4, Best ask: 318.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 318.46, 24 hour volume: 7542.05225686, 24 hour low: 318.33, 24 hour high: 323.77, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: ;;tickler
gribble: Error: "tickler" is not a valid command.
adlai: is this a word in english vernacular? lit. trans to hebrew means what you think it does
mircea_popescu: basically.
adlai: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00049734 / 0.00050502 / 0.00051851 (7864164 shares, 3,971.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00049734 / 0.00051218 / 0.00053875 (26072203 shares, 13,353.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00048633 / 0.00053175 / 0.00057294 (66730228 shares, 35,484.08 BTC)
asciilifeform: 'How to Run Turing Machines on Encrypted Data.' Shafi Goldwasser & bunch other schmucks. << apparently impossibility proofs don't apply to some people !!
asciilifeform: didja know ~that~, mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: there is much i don't know./
asciilifeform: and can we revoke 2nd law of thermo and 3rd law of newton! i'd like to fly around on a reactionless perpetuum mobile fart pack
mircea_popescu: look, we voted for change, right ?
mircea_popescu: about damn time technology brings solutions to the actual pressing problems of manking
asciilifeform: chope & hange.
asciilifeform: or was it hope, change.
asciilifeform: whicever.
mircea_popescu: no more of this sterile reinventing the same things over.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00049734 = 19.8439 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: if marriage could change, if we've progressed past narrow views of the past on so many topics from what science means and how to collect data all the way to you name it,
mircea_popescu: why should the great march of liberty stumble on ancient nonsense like laws that were perhaps valid in the middle ages, but no longer satisfy the needs of an ever progressing humanity ?
phf: also, don't forget that those so called laws were discovered by dead white men
asciilifeform: 'cis', thin!1111 dead men
mircea_popescu: moreover, at the time lavoisier was working on these things they had fucking kings!\
mircea_popescu: bahamas' parents had not even seen shoes
mircea_popescu: the whole population of yurp was less than the bay area. not to mention the land value.
mircea_popescu: mucho desarollo.
mircea_popescu: con pollo.
asciilifeform: con mas futuro.
asciilifeform: (unrelated) 'Our general approach is to introduce enough randomness into each hardware unit that a backdoor trigger cannot be reliably recognized by malicious circuitry.' << evidently my 'specificity law' is at least a shared hallucination
asciilifeform: goes back, i dare say, to qin shihuandi and his 10,001-bedroom palace
asciilifeform: (legend being, killer would not know in which one to wait.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00049734 = 18.1032 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47530 @ 0.00049718 = 23.631 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00049995 = 15.0985 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79650 @ 0.00049697 = 39.5837 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Mircea Popescu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrIKPG )
asciilifeform: among other oddities which link to my site,
assbot: CS55 Security and Privacy ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrJpR8 )
asciilifeform: ^ some comp sec course at some derpy american uni
adlai: aahaahaha "Romania is a large country, populated by a lot of distinct Internet users. Comparatively, wikipedia is a small shithole populated by a lot of indistinguishable idiots."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00049995 = 7.4993 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00049905 = 20.9601 BTC [-] {2}
felipelalli: Should I trust in BitGo Inc? If yes, why? What WoT user should I look? Thank you.
BingoBoingo: No, you should not trust Bitgo.
assbot: Lactating even though I am on caber : steroids ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrMf8H )
BingoBoingo: What's the point of having all those muscles when you are making dairy?
asciilifeform: !s cabergoline
assbot: 2 results for 'cabergoline' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cabergoline
asciilifeform: ^ for extra lulz
BingoBoingo: Indeed.
BingoBoingo: Honestly if his prolactin is that high he prolly needs more than cabergoline. Prolly needs crack, but I really dun wanna meet anyone on tren and crack at the same time.
felipelalli: thank you BingoBoingo !
BingoBoingo: ;;google site:qntra.net bitgo
gribble: BitGo Bug Results In Loss Of User Funds By Way Of 85 BTC Fee ...: <http://qntra.net/2015/04/bitgo-bug-results-in-loss-of-user-funds-by-way-of-85-btc-fee/>; BitGo Files MultiSig Patent Application Joining Other Bitcoin ... - Qntra: <http://qntra.net/2015/05/bitgo-files-multisig-patent-application-joining-other-bitcoin-patent-parasites/>; BitGo Offers Insurance The FDIC Way | Qntra: (1 more message)
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, but what about this? http://mpex.co/?mpsic=D.BTGO
assbot: D.BTGO last 2@0.10499940 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrMHnu )
asciilifeform: felipelalli: do you know the idea behind the D.* assets ?
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: It's a speculative synthetic asset, with only synthetic actual connection to Bitgo. It's basically betting.
felipelalli: lol! I didn't notice it before. DERP!
felipelalli: thank you guys. I was looking in the #b-a history and thinking: "what the hell..."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00049669 = 6.0596 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Europe's Latest Solution for the Refugee Shelter Shortage: Cruise Ships - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlEdvF )
ben_vulpes: that's...a lot of people?
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