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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski your latest header sucks yo
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-05-2015#1144389 <<< there's no guarantee p and q have the same bitsize is there ?
assbot: Logged on 23-05-2015 20:15:57; Apocalyptic: since p has exactly the same size as q I would say it's quite ok to use the size of p for both, although it's not intuitive that it's correct
mircea_popescu: howly shit, that's an incredibru log! yay.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen isaackl
gribble: isaackl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <isaackl> mircea_popescu: and how do you prefer to communicate? all through the channel?
mircea_popescu: hm where'd that guy go.
mircea_popescu: !up novusordo
mircea_popescu: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/23_in-la-serenissima-inflation-prices-you-in.html << nb. ben_vulpes you know i respek the entire "fuck you php" purity and everything, but fuck man, i can't leave comments. i guess i wave at you here instead, which worx.
Apocalyptic: "there's no guarantee p and q have the same bitsize is there ?" // I think there is, a couple of lines above it generates them both with nbits/2 bits, so I would say yes, unless there is a bug in "generate_secret_prime", because this function specifically sets the two high bits to 1
mircea_popescu: this is true, but you have no guarantee you will only be handling keys generated by your own generator.
mircea_popescu: it's not in the standard they're the same size, is it ?
mircea_popescu: (i have trouble recalling that whole spec, which is one of the things that are fucking wrong with it)
Apocalyptic: and this is from a very quick look at the gen_prime function, a more thorough analysis may reveal something else
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> this is true, but you have no guarantee you will only be handling keys generated by your own generator. // afaik this is not related to handling keys, the snippet mats pasted is key-generation related
mircea_popescu: i just meant in teh general.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> it's not in the standard they're the same size, is it ? // I confess I have no idea what the standard says
Apocalyptic: in general there is no size restrictions on the primes
mircea_popescu: not as in "what rsa means", as in "what rsa 4096" means
mircea_popescu: is rsa 4096 bit a guarantee you will have an n 4096 bits long (i think) or is it actually you will have two primes 2048 bits long each, with high bit set each.
Apocalyptic: good question, I so far assumed it's the former
mircea_popescu: i think it's the former yeah. which is why the "p=q" thing triggers the reader, i guess
mats: id like to run tests but i dun have the ability to do so right now
mats: and yes i was referring to those particular lines Apocalyptic
mircea_popescu: so google chrome actually beat firefox huh.
Apocalyptic: mircea, by what metric ?
mircea_popescu: by the metric that i just looked in trilema logs and Google Chrome 2,252,411 hits 41.1 % Firefox 1,986,192 hits 36.3 %
mats slaps assbot
mircea_popescu: i think assbot gave up on subtitling
mats: lazy.
mircea_popescu: presidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
mircea_popescu: o.o junior's starting his failed bids for presidency career early ?!
mircea_popescu: how many can he lose, if he lives as long as dad, 10-15ish ?
funkenstein_: lol
mircea_popescu: you voted paul huh funkenstein_
funkenstein_: Dr Paul Sr. had an interesting video recently
funkenstein_: how did you know? :D
mircea_popescu likes the guy
mircea_popescu: how. i can tell, it's a demographics thing.
funkenstein_: in it he's shilling some book, but he gives some pretty strong warnings on the currency front
funkenstein_: so one reason it would be nice to have ECDSA as an asym. crypto option in PGP
mircea_popescu: ecdsa is already in there.
funkenstein_: is that I could easily generate my own entropy for my keypair
mircea_popescu: but no, what i want is dual rsa-cs for b-a's dream-reimplementaton of pgp
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ generating entropy is not easy, and oyu can already do that as-is.
funkenstein_: i hope it's not that easy, i've been trying for hours.
mats: dunno what the big deal is, clearly americans want to be spied on
mircea_popescu: mats eh, this is just a dog and pony show for young rand etc. what'll happen is the wh backe,d house vetted solution where the nsa doesn't keep the records, phone companies do, nsa just asks for what it needs.
mircea_popescu: this is more in line with the "privatize costs, centralize benefits of the police state" approach the us has been taking since the 80s
mircea_popescu: ie post reagan
mats: heh, i had that thought when i saw it
mats: "what legal fuck fuck games are they gonna play nao"
mircea_popescu: note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT.
mircea_popescu: the future of the us at all levels is this thing where it's your job as the business owner to do the work of the police
mircea_popescu: and it's their job to get the cookies.
mircea_popescu: what teh public wants or doesn't want is really supporting cast in this trend.
mats: god forbid USG actually trains people in HUMINT gathering
mircea_popescu: it can't be done.
mircea_popescu: https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1432413584849-1.jpg << i was gonna wash the sink and stuff in the bathroom, but then i just took some pics with my shirt off. easier work.
funkenstein_: ;;later tell pete_dushenski stop by lambada bar on langstrasse for me if you get a chance
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: the... wait. the LAMBADA bar ?
mircea_popescu: chorando se foi!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96400 @ 0.00028171 = 27.1568 BTC [-] {5}
mats: i had an interesting discussion with a project manager from general atomics
mats: we discussed the future of airframes in USN and he validated my suspicion that they'll be obsolete inside of a decade (if not right now)
mats: last time they had a real program was with the F-18 in the late 70s iirc
mats: now they're being forced into working on the F-35 and JSF and its obv becoming a boondoggle because they simply don't have the expertise for it
mats: along with the many chiefs problem
mats: once USG loses a carrier or two the whole show will cascade, followed with binning of most of the sub fleet
mats: should be interesting to see how USG power projection strategy develops with fielding of the S/VTOL F-35s and rail gun
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4749 @ 0.00027553 = 1.3085 BTC [-] {3}
mats: "Indeed, the problem with all of this is that the F-35 is not bringing much to the picture which could not have been installed via upgrades in the older platforms, and thus the very length of generational separation from pilot access to these 'downloadable apps' equivalents to a civilian iPad is distorting pilot perception of improvement when we -could- have
mats: had alternatives like Falcon Eye (far more reliable head steered FLIR) since the 1990s."
mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-05-2015#1140641 << not sure where you heard this, but i don't think this is true. more likely VTOL just consumes a ton of fuel, which makes it impractical rather than impossible
assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 19:30:08; jurov: i heard f35 cannot transition from hover to forward movement
menahem: !up pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: it's.... alive!
pete_dushenski: thx menahem
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell funkenstein_ will try on the way back through next week :)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i agree on the header. i felt like a change but it was kinda a weird/unflattering choice. new one is up, fresh from zurich !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: o.o junior's starting his failed bids for presidency career early ?! << Baby Paul is actually kind of one of the frontrunners. Also less cool than his father for sure.
jurov: mats: f35 will be afaik STOVL anyway (need short runway to take off), vertical takeoff used only to very short distances
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what, srsly ?
mircea_popescu: dude it'll be so sad if the v2.0 which sucks actually gets the title.
mircea_popescu: <mats> last time they had a real program was with the F-18 in the late 70s iirc << word.
trinque: mircea_popescu: rand is "not an isolationist" in his words, supports a war against ISIS
mircea_popescu: how does he plan to win a war of the omlette against the fork for the side of the omlette ?
trinque: hahaha
mircea_popescu: (yes i get it, the aggregate mass of eggs the fork drives down over its lifetime far exceeds the mass of the fork in question. so ?)
trinque: his plan seems to be, take his fathers positions and dilute them all
trinque: "yes but..." << see, I'm the reasonable Paul
mircea_popescu: the only winning plan would be to make it mandatory for any woman that ever wrote or aspired to writing for any "social justice" outlet to spend the time she's got left until 30 as a harem slave in the arab world.
mircea_popescu: that'd win it.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: with my current availability even php's not an option, js is the only stopgap that'd word
ben_vulpes: and it's not pillar-sittin, it's pure time.
ben_vulpes: i have a spike of a pgptron comment engine but it's nothing serviceable for use
ben_vulpes: anyways, what were you thinking?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what, srsly ? << Yeah, also apparently really popular among the colored folks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wasn't anything too riveting, apparently, as now i dun recall. BingoBoingo black people are what, 10% ?
BingoBoingo: somewhere between 10% and 20%
mircea_popescu: ended up with him because discussion of no roses for miss blemish.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [15:09] note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT. << aha i didn't follow this one. link?
mircea_popescu: !s patel
assbot: 4 results for 'patel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=patel
mircea_popescu: 2nd from top
ben_vulpes: lulzy
mircea_popescu: that awkward moment when some privacy minded chick comments on trilema to protest her privacyrights and then her email turns up in http://arbp.net/email_nonumbers.txt
mircea_popescu: which... what the fuck is that even.
mircea_popescu: apparently it's the spamlist of some internet marketeer or other. oops.
mircea_popescu: (same Xlhost.com as in the arbt thing discussed there)
mod6: wtf
mircea_popescu: totally.
ben_vulpes: > bitbeetus
decimation: mircea_popescu: not only that but the franchise owners 'disowned' the pizza joint owner
mircea_popescu: well obviously.
decimation: "Then comes a second, more unexpected warning: ?Now, guys, I?ve got to tell you this park, I believe, is a sex-offender park. Everyone in here is a sex offender. I could be wrong, we?re going to find out, but I think that?s the deal on this one. So stay together as a herd.?"
decimation: ^ result of usg policy, housing sex offenders in a trailer park is a thing
decimation: " She rents trailer pad spots for about $325 a month. The trailers are either owned by the tenant or rented from a third party. Many trailers are divided into three bedrooms, for which tenants are charged $500 a month per room."
decimation: this is near orlando, which is swamp
decimation: so apparently it costs $1825 per month to rent a spot to park your trailer in a florida swamp
decimation: with sex offenders
mircea_popescu: honestly, i'd much rather hang out with sex offenders than with the average florida-ite
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107500 @ 0.00030371 = 32.6488 BTC [+] {4}
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: “they seem scacely worth the time” / scarcely
assbot: Logged on 23-05-2015 07:24:13; mircea_popescu: http://traackr.com/ dude all these web 2.1 bullshits, where you can't even establish wtf they're supposedly doing AT ALL.
jurov: lmao mircea fell for hn's startup generator?
Adlai: "Introducing the world’s first peerless software." http://tiffzhang.com/startup/?s=634711791014
jurov: One of the biggest challenges we faced after we hit our early goals was how do we stay top-of-mind and keep our users engaged? Enter Complaintme. Problem solved.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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trinque: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092 << making everyone in the US government a traitor to the United States according to its own law
trinque: "Some outlets have reported the US intelligence community’s internal prediction of the rise of ISIS. Yet none have accurately acknowledged the disturbing details exposing how the West knowingly fostered a sectarian, al-Qaeda-driven rebellion in Syria."
trinque: "Crucially, Iraq is labeled as an integral part of this “Shia expansion.”" << this provides context for the recent change in US-Saudi relations
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56950 @ 0.00030412 = 17.3196 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: were I a Saudi king I might anticipate the US govt trying to pin ISIS solely on me.
hanbot: !uo icaro_o_mirc_ain
hanbot: !up icaro_o_mirc_ain
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46290 @ 0.00029356 = 13.5889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76135 @ 0.00030641 = 23.3285 BTC [+]
trinque: !up felipelalli
deedbot-: accepted: 1
felipelalli: thanks for help trinque
trinque: no problem; you should be able to self-up btw, not that I mind
trinque: you're in assbot's L2
felipelalli: trinque: thanks, I asked just as a shortcut! Just laziness to sign! :D
felipelalli: trinque: it said "accepted" but why the bot didn't ask me to pay?
trinque: because I pay for it currently
felipelalli: Ah! Thanks so much. I'll donate to your BTC OTC address.
trinque: felipelalli: you may send funds to the address from which deedbot- makes its timestamping payments if you like
trinque: felipelalli: 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00029356 = 5.0199 BTC [-]
trinque: I notice that in google chrome, the non-ascii characters get munged; however, when I download the URL with wget they appear correctly and the sig verifies
trinque: so *shrug*... seems like s3 doesn't serve up a proper encoding header for that, but it doesn't harm anything
trinque: eventually I'm moving the deeds to my own nginx, so that will stop being an annoyance
felipelalli: trinque: it looks good all time to me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110650 @ 0.0002935 = 32.4758 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: cool
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isaackl: mircea_popescu: still here. I read you complaining about lack of affiliate rev on http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-april-2014-statement/ and did a little digging on other casino affiliate schemes (both bitcoin and fiat). Mostly they seem to pay affiliates a cut of player losses, assumption being that players eventually lose most of their buy-ins to the house (via roulette, slots, etc).
isaackl: BitBet doesn’t have those kind of games and maybe that changes the economics? You have to persuade players to lay down 100 btc to net 1 btc in affiliate rev. Not easy to buy traffic which pays out 100x what you paid for it. With FB ads a typical game might net, say, $10 on average per user, and we’d be buying installs for maybe $5 and trying to optimise it to $3.
isaackl: For BitBet, SEO or finding sites with underutilised ad space (as with 8chan) is probably the way to go? Both take time though. I can send your btc back if you want as tbh I have little expertise in that world. Also let me know if you think my reasoning is flawed.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.0002715 = 6.6382 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54272 @ 0.00026711 = 14.4966 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43616 @ 0.00028633 = 12.4886 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: isaackl i dunno man
mircea_popescu: i don't begin to pretend like i'm a marketeer.
mircea_popescu: but statistically speaking, a bitbet player breaks even. it's a fair betting thing, not a scammy betting thing like everything fiat world/\
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard ty
mircea_popescu: trinque o shit did i forget to seed it ? what's the bot's addy ?
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