crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-25#1061851 >> was looking at a chicom riscv mainboard compatible with the framework laptops as I currently don't own any hardware that's not in essence, [fritzed](http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=fritz&chan=asciilifeform)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-10-25 13:11:41 asciilifeform: bonechewer: what's the newsworthy part ? there's already 'over9000' riscv already posted, and some even fit in ice40. (the issue with all of these is that they either fit in ice40, xor have decent performance. typically for the latter relies on various proprietary ram controllers & other periphs not included in src)
crtdaydreams: the specimen in question is the StarFive "JH-7110"
crtdaydreams: interestingly the specsheet is not longer avaliable from the manufacturers webshite, had to dig it up from the internet archive
crtdaydreams: but to corroborate your observation, [https://docs.u-boot.org/en/latest/board/starfive/visionfive2.html]("There are additional unexplained GUID references in the JH-7110 MaskROM so the description given is not complete. Attribution and modifications to the GPL2.0+ source code used in StarFive loader have not been published as of this writing.")
crtdaydreams: excuse the notation for weblinks, I've forgotten how it's done :/
crtdaydreams: Essentially must be calling on some on-chip flash memories during boot, which the developer so conveniently omits from their description of the boot sequence.
crtdaydreams: The fritzed board in question - https://frame.work/au/en/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard
crtdaydreams: I had pretty well given up on the rabbit-hole that is pre-ME/PSP etc hardware back in 2021, but it seems like a worthwhile endeavour with the way things are travelling.
crtdaydreams: It's hard to know how effective that solution is when all the other onboard controllers are black boxes too.
crtdaydreams: I recall reading about libreboot + old thinkpad was the goto but how can one validate that the recycling/reselling vendor hasn't tampered with the board?
crtdaydreams: The demand was identified and they've been snuffled up by folks charging a hefty markup, I don't see why he who hold the money printer wouldn't wave around a fat wad to recirculate fritzed versions. - The people who are looking for them are most likely to be of interest to various 3 letter organisations.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-04-19#1118148 << reich's hardware bugging tends to be rather conspicuous (and expensive, evidently few were deemed worthy: to this day nobody's admitted to finding one afaik)
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-04-19 07:49:11 crtdaydreams: I recall reading about libreboot + old thinkpad was the goto but how can one validate that the recycling/reselling vendor hasn't tampered with the board?
asciilifeform: sabotaging open softs is over9000x cheaper.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-04-19#1118145 << buying chinesium that won't run mainline 2010s kernels at all seems like an straightforward 'own goal'
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-04-19 07:37:48 crtdaydreams: The fritzed board in question - https://frame.work/au/en/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-04-10#1118113 << i grew up communist, so i have an inclination towards кружок. litr "small circle", for the purposes of subj "club", but really an untranslatable su concept of an often state sponsored and organized hobby club that was a staple part of after school activity for a soviet kid. rocketry, chess, computers, arts, etc.
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-04-10 22:54:18 crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2026-04-09#1036075 << it comes down to the organised destruction of "third spaces" - your life is now home and work - all other activities not within these spaces at least appear excessively cost-prohibitive, which is enough for most people (myself included) to ignore pursuing further.
phf: left on idle cycles i tend to organize кружок because i believe it's a fundamental social knowledge transfer system. "why don't we all get together and study X". hackerspaces, book clubs, whatever
phf: and my conclusion from years of that experience is that there's been some kind of shift, and i'm leaning towards signpost's masturbators, and that it probably has something to do with pervasive computers, social media, etc. it's not a profound thought. there's no lizards. compute accidentally did a dopamine hack on everyone, and suddenly nobody wants to do anything but consume porn (as a broad "somebody else is doing it" category)
phf: because real estate did go up, in desirable locations, but e.g. hackerspaces of yore were not in desirable locations. in fact all kinds of cool shit in my life happened in non-desirable locations, raves and hackerspaces and festival workshop, that then became desirable because we started some cool shit in the area.
phf: there's another thing that happened that i call the dubai effect. briefly you used to throw a rave, and you know there will be all kinds of people there, but you know there will be one or two really really attractive girls. and everyone comes to your local rave, because those girls would be there, but at the same time those girls would come because it's the only thing to do. the social capital.
phf: well, the dubai effect is that those girls instead just go to dubai to get shat on by sheikhs. nobody comes to your rave anymore, except utter utter freaks
phf: you can project this model on many things, it's driven by global insta comms, cheap travel, and the new wealth vertical
phf: the dubai is of course the outlier, but you know "why go to a local rave, that might be bad, when i can insta and scrool, and then go to tomorrowland instead because that's guaranteed to be lit"
phf: but tomorrowland is only like 800000 people, that's broadly outliers from the total population, and they are essentially the content producers
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-04-19#1118158 << asciilifeform aint aboutta propose a conclusive answer to 'wat came 1st, the vodka or the despair?' , but leans towards 'the despair'
dulapbot: Logged on 2026-04-19 13:17:20 phf: and my conclusion from years of that experience is that there's been some kind of shift, and i'm leaning towards signpost's masturbators, and that it probably has something to do with pervasive computers, social media, etc. it's not a profound thought. there's no lizards. compute accidentally did a dopamine hack on everyone, and suddenly nobody wants to do anything but consume porn (as a broad "somebody else is doing it" category)
asciilifeform: 'masturbate to social xyz all day' is (to the extent that the folx who would otherwise do something constructive are instead doing it) imho from the pervasive atmosphere of 'there's 0 to do and nowhere to go' and is a self-catalyzing reaction