BingoBoingo: So if anyone really wants my monkeyland mess, there is some time to think about it.
BingoBoingo: So, if anyone wants to take on an expensive, high risk corpse of a venture at almost certain substantial loss in BTC value... I'll be here at least a few days, probably a week, maybe even the end of the month before heading back to the land of petrocheese.
BingoBoingo: And further mind a brief investigation of the local labor market yielded: http://archive.is/Hp01G#selection-3125.0-3125.286 "Una buena empresa donde trabajar si uno quiere desarrollarse, ya que siempre hay nuevas oportunidades. Se aprende una forma de trabajo completamente diferente a la que uno está acostumbrado en Uruguay. La gente que tiene uno a su lado es en el 99 % increíble. Es lo que mas se destaca."
BingoBoingo: And any potential saviors looking for a vanity project ought to mind that likely the best thing for my health and reputation is going to be returning to familiar AA meetings and the humble, anonymous life working in a hardware store.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: more generally : i do not perceive any sort of future for the republic without an isp.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783157 << On this point, taking a lot more explicit direction... perhaps from an alf pete_dushenski partnership, where my role becomes more hired hand than self directed center of the brand. I mention pete_dushenski because of his lack of toxic US passport and apparent management experience. I have my doubts alf alone is sufficient to right this ship, but if pete_dushenki wants try saving the republic
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:48 mircea_popescu: i did try throughout, up to and including yesterday, to somehow compensate for the various issues, but eventually the time comes for the observation that the situation you created for yourself there is not actually tenable. spend your remaining cash on your plane ticket out, we're putting an end here to this well meaning but ultimately ineffectual effort.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783155 << After a night of meditation, sleeping, and taking in the local culture at the Desfile de Las Llamadas, "well meaning but ultimately ineffectual" is probably my best possible exit from this situation.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/ << Trilema - Scott Pilgrim vs the World
mircea_popescu: ima have to merge these now. why's nobody said anything ;/
mircea_popescu: whoa, so it turns out that besides http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary there actually existed all along a http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ !
phf: it was pretty quite until i started installing gnat, but then it kept on spinning. i'm not going to investigate right now
trinque: hm, dunno then.
phf: i can probably put that machine on ssh, but it's been sitting in a closet and wildly spinning the fans, so i wonder if there's something i need to tweak in openbsd to keep it from doing that..
phf: and here's a simple hack to verify that the machine is in fact BE, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/W0EhS/?raw=true
pete_dushenski: but harvard has all the presteej donchaknow
shinohai: pete_dushenski: At least goes to show smarter than the Harvard idjuts mining Doge that time.
pete_dushenski: trinque: any luck with the non-expiring pubkeys ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, going to go to see the local blackface Carnival parade tonight. Hopefully I get better at the night time photography thing.
BingoBoingo: That is the only long game I had been seeing which might justify continuing the adventure. Especially considering THIS is the local webhosting competition https://www.netuy.net/hosting.linux.uruguay.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlpvT_4qc2QIVkYKRCh0msAP1EAAYASAAEgKVU_D_BwE
mircea_popescu: then in 20 years important worms can hurr durr about how you "stole" your fortune (from the "less advantaged" who "had fewer oppportunities") because, ohohohobiously, "all capital is theft".
mircea_popescu: ow it's half what they thought it costs, neh, not to mention nobody else has it. free monopoly granted you through stupidity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783178 << for the sake of it being said, nominally all difficulties are naught moar than more proffit opportunities. if you get organized to import all the shit the dc MUST have but did not in fact have, you have yet another revenue stream ready. pay $150 per chassis in saneland, plus $30 or so in shipping, sell them the dozen for 3300 (+ "iva") -- which hey, is a GREAT fucking deal seeing h
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/10/the-photos-from-places-between-the-places/ << Bingo Blog - The Photos From Places Between The Places
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so go sleep, there's little you can do this saturday anyway. we see tomorro.
BingoBoingo: As fucking disappointing as the locals are, I still prefer being off the reservation. If asciilifeform can promise the fuel to continue Hostel + Desk + $20 daily per diem to not starve... BingoBoingo is going to take time and think himself... After blogging the other pics from the yesterday walk.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not opposed to taking alfdebt in favor of mircea_popescu debt minding that the mircea_popescu debt comes first unless alf makes other arrangements with mircea_popescu. And also that a substantial part of the +EV involves BingoBoingo does things alf will find very disgusting to a few boxes in order to sell shared hosting. Think of how alf directed venture with PCengines 8 to the 1U as opposed to VPS for small
asciilifeform: i'ma back tomorrow; still in the process of last iteration of 'do what mircea_popescu told'
mircea_popescu: yes yes. do what i told you, i don't say these things out of boredom. then we'll see.
asciilifeform: well let's first see 1) is there sale 2) does BingoBoingo include himself , then 3) is there buy
asciilifeform: otherwise empty balloon, not isp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That isn't anything to sell. You would be financing BingoBoingo's increasingly uncertain adventure. Or coming down here personally meeting BingoBoingo and seeing if Latecho will transfer the contract to you before the end of February.
mircea_popescu: yes, but that was an idea, and the idea lives equally well everywhere. you don't have to implement it on this particular stump in preference of any other.
mircea_popescu: otherwise what the hell are you buying, "the rights" ? come feb 25th or so the item is worth ~0.
mircea_popescu: i'll be here an hour later. so will be here the fact the latter approach is well known and THOROUGHLY documented to cause shocking failure in otherwise well meaning, intelligent and respectable kids. that's ~the whole history of early bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i would certainly consider selling ; now take the next hour and consider the matter THOROUGHLY, before you come back to promise me that you're actually acting rationally, rather than psychotically trying to further a dream on the flimsy fuel of injured self-image.
asciilifeform: possibly others
asciilifeform: the carcass. supposing BingoBoingo would go along. i.e. rights to the rack, operation, etc .
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Understood. The closest thing to rescuing the situation here is appearing to be take on substantially more debt from mircea_popescu while working with the local mud, and insufficient assurance the mud can be made baked into bricks. I am willing to take on the debt, but I am now grossly aware I was unprepared intellectually and otherwise. I also see no reason for mircea_popescu to bleed cash feeding Uruguayos when the
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, reality can only be elided at significant personal sacrifice and over short intervals. so, to repeat it : there is no future for the republic without an isp.
mircea_popescu: i can follow with that in mind the overpoweringly loud "so what if mp said however long ago and it saying it again, my life is my own to make!!!!" disclaimer going silently with every such statement.
mircea_popescu: i know there's this generalized habit to believe one's "in charge" of "himself" and may permit or not permit reality into his autism bubble as he sees fit and with no further consequences than whatever he may deign to allow, such magic powers being the absolute minimum bar for a special person quite as superbly special as those bred of postmodernity.
mircea_popescu: more generally : i do not perceive any sort of future for the republic without an isp.
mircea_popescu: phf feel free to not use the plane tickets you bought, if that's more convenient.
mircea_popescu: i did try throughout, up to and including yesterday, to somehow compensate for the various issues, but eventually the time comes for the observation that the situation you created for yourself there is not actually tenable. spend your remaining cash on your plane ticket out, we're putting an end here to this well meaning but ultimately ineffectual effort.
mircea_popescu: sooo BingoBoingo there's two fundamental problems you got there. one of them is that you have significant bills hitting in a few weeks that you've made no provision for paying. the other's that you lack basic physical building blocks, a lack you've made no provision for even discovering in time.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-09 23:08 pete_dushenski: lulzy trump anecdote of the day comes to us from his personal porn star stormy daniels : "She describes walking into his suite at the Beverly Hills Hotel, for instance. “You could see the television from the little dining room table and he was watching Shark Week,” she recalled. “And he was watching a special about the U.S.S. something and it sank and it was like the worst shark attack in history. He
trinque: she must be the walmart version of that as he is the turd-stain on the whitey-tighties of his
trinque does not know how the power dynamics play out among whore that ascends, and thus cannot reckon what her hindbrain tells her she didn't get.
mircea_popescu: i'm confused as whether this is the groped staffer to the anti-groping campaigner or the chin-plower sex service dollie to the tan-haired first american or which
shinohai: The one of Fructuoso Rivera on a horse?
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Do the locals have bronze-tipped spears at least? << No, but they have a statue of the fellow who genocided their natives in front of Tres Cruces Shopping/Bus Terminal.
BingoBoingo: The rest of the graffiti pics and other sights incidently captured along the way will be posted later.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/09/a-long-descent-into-the-cargo-cult/ << Bingo Blog - A Long Descent Into The Cargo Cult
mircea_popescu: the chin on that woman.
pete_dushenski: is obsessed with sharks. Terrified of sharks. He was like, ‘I donate to all these charities and I would never donate to a charity that helps sharks. I hope all the sharks die.’ He was like riveted. He was like obsessed. It was so strange, I know.”"
pete_dushenski: lulzy trump anecdote of the day comes to us from his personal porn star stormy daniels : "She describes walking into his suite at the Beverly Hills Hotel, for instance. “You could see the television from the little dining room table and he was watching Shark Week,” she recalled. “And he was watching a special about the U.S.S. something and it sank and it was like the worst shark attack in history. He
shinohai: Do the locals have bronze-tipped spears at least?
BingoBoingo: As I put this post togther the one redeeming though that keeps floating to the top of my mind is that this place is small enough that if The Republic is going to start subjugating, this is a rather small and defenseless sandbox to practice on.
mircea_popescu: the very definition of an orc, this. one who can subsist on pantsuit diet, one who is satisfied with facebook for his culture and with dellenovo for his hardware and with the http://trilema.com/2018/best-of-fetlife-such-as-it-is/ girlies for his amorous needs and so on. that's what an orc is, what the fuck else would it be.
shinohai: THE HONEYMOON IS OVER
BingoBoingo: And fuck me, everyone keeps telling me "Look on Mercado Libre, they have everything there" which is only true if by everything you mean except for civilized life. "Oh, here people just use the Dell/HP/Lenovo authorized distributors."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> eam of reports from there, and would have already been late in the 2nd week. << I came to realize the grave neglect in not doing this exercise upon arrival rather early in the day's exercise.
mircea_popescu: but, for your own notes as well as for the strengthening of the public record, let me point out that the line "well mp... i have my doubts about the feasibility of the plan here ; casual inspection of the local orc bazaars pompously bestowing upon themselves the unearned monicker of 'computer hardware shops' resulted in a grand total of ONE identified rack, for instance." properly belonged in the ~very first week~ of your str
BingoBoingo: I return. The short of the news is there is still only one "business" that had one 2U chassis, and they have yet to follow up with a quote for the rest of the shopping list. Blog post baking, with pictures from this cargo cult hell hole.
mircea_popescu: if your kernel is over (iirc 4.8 was it ?), you have to also nuke the csprng thing.
shinohai: Thanks for clarification, I haven't gotten this deep down the rabbit hole with mine yet but looking forward.
mircea_popescu: drivers/char/random.c is what needs changing. wipe the calls to "add_disk_randomness" and bullshit, replace with your fg feeder.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-09 20:16 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: fed fg to /dev/random then crossed my fingers and closed my eyes in hoping that gpg sourced entropy from there
pete_dushenski: lobbes: after reading through the logs and seeing that you'd gone through exactly the same thing, i was mindful to remove exp from subs too :)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 21:13 lobbes: and yeah, I overlooked that I apparently had to also remove expiration on the sub -explicitly- (via gpg --edit-key). Even though it was showing the sub as 'expiration: none' after I had removed expiration on the pub way back when
lobbes: pete_dushenski: I dunno if your situation is the same with your old 2014 key. But if you have any subkeys be sure to check them too >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734399
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: fed fg to /dev/random then crossed my fingers and closed my eyes in hoping that gpg sourced entropy from there
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you don't want a 4096 bit key; i can't find the relevant logs at the moment but koch-rsa does bad shit when generating keys > 2048 bits
pete_dushenski: in other "fuck your human rights rhethoric", duterte threatens to can deal for $300mn of canadian helicopters if bitch ass trudeau and his butt buddies at amnesty international don't stick to business. not that canada will - it's happy to shoot itself in the foot, calf, knee, quad, hip, and up until it's bled out for its colonial sins. http://archive.is/oHOSj
pete_dushenski: hopefully one of these loser pubkeys works, but if not i've made a new 4096 bit key to act as back-up/replacement. lemme know and thx again
pete_dushenski: trinque: i tried pgpdump -i on the first one i sent you and there was no expiration date. either way, the second crack is posted above and teh third crack is here : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AqyXy/?raw=true
asciilifeform: shinohai: as for the particular crackpottery in your link, see earlier instance http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-02#1621306 of ~same thing
asciilifeform: shinohai: was funnier than that. idea there was that 'your' privkey is a homomorphic product of your email addr and hitler's magic pubkey. your public key is then function of your email addr and hitler's pub. you can decrypt ( and naturally hitler also decrypts ) but randos -- not
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:58 asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-02#1084135 <<< bwahahahaha! ok I do remember these lulz now.
shinohai: Seems like a perfect partnership then.
asciilifeform: shinohai: witness the inevitable dan boneh
shinohai: http://archive.is/wGU2a <<< By now, I'm convinced Pieter Wuille wants to reduce the blockchain to "Yeah, you sent some shit or something"
BingoBoingo: But a substantial number of the stores are closed forever.
BingoBoingo: shit together for a Wednesday morning pickup)) Returning to the businesses that weren't yet open this morning when I first passed them, and then the longer shots... and listening for more referrals. Just might be able to get the count up to 12 cases.
BingoBoingo: I have found 1 (they may have two more in their warehouse but they aren sure of their condition, but did see one in the store mounted in a rack they had on display) 2U rackmount chassis. They want 246 USD for each 2U case, after the cash discount. They promised an itemized quote on the rest of the heavy shit shopping list later today. Firm is Technolyn S.A. (They are closed Monday and Tuesday next week for Carnival, hoping they can put
lobbes: I've been waiting for this flu to finally get me. Charlotte is supposedly one of the 'most infected' cities atm, but I've lucked out thus far
mod6: I think I'm in the same boat. Better, but tired.
shinohai: Feel much better today, still rather tired but that is easily addressed.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ct16g3r186dm specifically. it's not simply "ddr 3". it's actually 1866, these things matter. << Lists updated headed out the door in a few minutes http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/bbisp-shopping-and-shops-list-for-exploring/
pete_dushenski: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OaneH/?raw=true << updated key here, trinque. or do you need it sent another way ?
pete_dushenski: pretty much. 4 years was 4x as long as i'd held a btc in my own wallet. seemed like the world was spinning at a million miles a minute for all i knew pgp keys were as disposable as btc addresses
trinque: drop it my way and I'll get it in there tomorrow
pete_dushenski: trinque: expires on the 11th. lol didn't know better back in 2014 when mp said 'get in wot yo'
trinque: why in the fuck are people still using expiration?
pete_dushenski: hm. so as not to flail further, how do i update my pubkey ? trinque ?
mircea_popescu: (in other lulz, the price of that thing went up about 15% since it was first mentioned. hurr durr.)
mircea_popescu: and of course mind the "limit x per customer" bullshit. and so on.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ct16g3r186dm specifically. it's not simply "ddr 3". it's actually 1866, these things matter.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/bbisp-shopping-and-shops-list-for-exploring/ << Bingo Blog - BBisp Shopping And Shops List For Exploring
mircea_popescu: all the cheap heavy shit that's not really worth courriering.
mircea_popescu: what you want is everything else you might need, other than boards/cpus/rams/disks.
BingoBoingo: SSD's over 500 GB in size. If they go in phf's bag Samsung. On my list I am asking every store what they have if they have it.
mircea_popescu is trying not to think of the obvious point that if he's buying by the dozen he's supposed to be getting fucking discounts.
mircea_popescu: the idea was some 2 some 4, so 36 in total.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> leaving aside we don't even know what disks we're buying. eg, the rosewill chassis only usefully takes 3.5 inch ones. << 2.5 to 3.5 shims are on the list
BingoBoingo: The point is clear. Making a list. Taking both cameras and extra batteries on the search.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside we don't even know what disks we're buying. eg, the rosewill chassis only usefully takes 3.5 inch ones.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea where this cavallier attitude is coming from, but the only thing it'll come to is tears, if the point's not well driven home by now.
mircea_popescu: and bear in fucking mind that the reason http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 happened on the 6th at 2am rather than on the 9th at 2am is PRECISELY so that we have this conversation at the latest during the 6th, not during the fucking 9th.
mircea_popescu: at any rate, the only possible moves here seem to be a) phf see if the airline is willing to take a ~100 kgs as cargo ; b) BingoBoingo DO THE RESEARCH tonight, as to b.1) EXACTLY, ~absolutely~ exactly what parts do you actually need and b.2) list of places you could conceivably get it at there, whatever shops. then tomorrow starting 8am you go check all of those. no words, be shown the physical item.
phf: i.e. you pack it in a box (300kg max, 70kg each individual box), weigh and measure it, send them a quote. i don't know what the specific prices are
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> do they ? eat on own power, i mean. or does somebody fill their bowl with kibble, like in argentina << They afford to farm on Brazillian tourists money. How they have the ability to get from there to lifting the fork into their mouths I have increasingly less idea.
BingoBoingo: In a country that is only avoiding starvation because the Brazilians like doing the Cannabis tourism thing.
BingoBoingo: They have empty cabinets on casters ready to go. They have C13 plugs on the power distribution units. I failed to anticipate the hell that would be getting formed sheet metal here. I have apparently not been doing enough investigation into these basic questions. And the quote came late enough that I am probably not going to know until tomorrow if any of the local vendors that just now stated talking are going to keep doing it. I have
deedbot: http://107.170.141.103/2018/coppa-airlines-baggage/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - Copa Airlines baggage policy
mircea_popescu: even if sane chassis were to be found, you can't find weightless power supplies (why exactly the rack provides 220V rather than directly rail is a question for another time ; and why this was't raised as a point at any previous time.) and there's simply no way i can have phf drag 50+ kgs of ~worthless parts across the oceans.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im tell you i'm deeply nonplussed that i discover you can't actually rack anything in the dc you reported walked through after renting it and the very fucking day i'm supposed to start ordering parts.
mircea_popescu: (the power supply is like 3kgs, and that's not fucking avoidable)
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mircea_popescu: !~google snatch "heavy is good... heavy is reliable... if the dc is manned by idiots you can always hit them with it..."
mircea_popescu: dude how fucking long have i been asleep whjat the fuck is this never in my life have i held a mount chassis this heavy ever.
phf: "It's worth mentioning that out of the 4 of these I've purchased so far, I got one for which the front USB ports are shorted and kill USB devices you plug into it. I lost two flash drives before realizing this was the problem. " second product, lulz. thought that's like random factor in cheap chinese shit
phf: "A rack mount case should fit in a standard 19" EIA rack. They call it a 19" rack for a reason. It's not a 19 1/4" rack. The edge of this case's ears are 19 1/4", had to grind them to fit my rack. Also one EIA space..."
BingoBoingo: For a chassis either of these would work https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219032 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147180
asciilifeform: do they ? eat on own power, i mean. or does somebody fill their bowl with kibble, like in argentina
asciilifeform: hard to believe that it all goes ~immediately~ to the scrap gypsies
asciilifeform: shouldn't the dc at least have a stash of iron belonging to defunkt/insolvent tenants
phf: i mean, the question is how much ~i~ can carry, vs. how costly it's going to rapidly become
mircea_popescu: anyway BingoBoingo do not omit to point to the monkeys that they're now the laughingstock of the internet as the ~only "datacenter" in the world that doesn't have enough sense to stock a pile of mounts for the customers.
phf: it's a vacation spot, all the recommendations people send my way involve beaches, bitches and hot springs. i don't see why i should pack anything more than a pair of shorts
mircea_popescu: seems to me the man without a spare in the trunk is also not going to have an engine in working order.
mircea_popescu: if they don'\t have rackmounts, why exactly am i to believe they have, eg, generators.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:56 phf: so there's two points here, one is that you're opening yourself up for extortion commonly known as "valet service"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782932 << the only point to my eyes is that someone fucked in the head enough to run something they call "datacenter" without one ton of spare racks laying about is not distinguishable from three twelve year old white boys in a "tree fort" running a "porn business" through taking complicatedly filtered ipad shots of their own palms.
mircea_popescu: anyway, pick an item from the actual suppliers lessee.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782924 <<< i guess we'll be having to pile up even more shit in the transport. by now uruguay is worth ~nothing. can't produce papwerowkr, can't produce cash, can't produce gear...
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:33 trinque: stocks down, bond yields up, and meanwhile congress just passed some gigantic expansion of the budget
mircea_popescu: "Walking into a building should not be any different based on income status, Ms. Glen said in an interview." << inept pantsuit wank. the only way poor people walk into a human building is as long as they're female, before their 30th birthday and if they have enough sense not to put clothes on. what the everloving fuck is this, they're people now, the poor fucks ?!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:56 phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where they rent $3000 apartments to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782905 << absolutely. the principal reason i will not consider any pantsuitlands real estate ownership ever is that they actually have the unmitigated cheek to use printed "money" to install the scum in there "too".
mircea_popescu: by the time they advertise that sorta dumb shit, you know it belongs in the furnace.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:13 ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather than "it is actually good"
phf: you also could for example look at the gestalt of the dynamic process. rack and connectivity is their walk in bread and butter. they probably overcharged you, but not by much, because it was their first interaction with you. meanwhile dynamic process evolves. they are probably sad now that they didn't overcharge you more for rack, compensating on hardware (that's another alternative take on what's going on)
phf: so the combination of those two points is that it's possible that dc knows about full overhead of import + they charge you for valet. considering that you're a ~random dude~ dropping serious cash on their server rack that is of right now entirely empty, it's safe for them to assume that you have mad american cash burning yer pockets
phf: other point is that since we've never actually tried importing anything into uruguay that "+ local import specifics" might translate into extortion on the border (which, say, was sop in russia in the 90s)
phf: so there's two points here, one is that you're opening yourself up for extortion commonly known as "valet service"
phf: i'm not sure what the thinking is, but they can't really do anything that you can't do, as far as importing hardware. literally they'll have to do all the same steps + potentially navigating local import specifics
BingoBoingo: Still, I present "here is an emergency" Let's work through this. In the most charitable interpretation they decide to do what the PUA's call a shit test. In the most likely case an attempt at extortion. I was expecting "This pile costs X in lands with commerce, duties customs etc cost X, and transport costs Y depending on how fast we get it here."
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:51 phf: in fact my bed&briekfast guy is very much "an old dutch moves to an indian village": "license costs 300rs, but they found another irregularity so i have to pay 10'000rs fee"
trinque: ah I was reacting to the blog post
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: good luck buddy, and don't let it piss you off << This wasn't a euphamism. Actual spanish lesson with the Venezolana dentist turned teacher.
BingoBoingo: extort the gringo on SHEETMETAL" idea
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6TNbp/?raw=true The whole email thread from this morning through their suggesting desktop power supplies to go with rackmount cases to my polite suggestion the numbers and timeline aren't acceptable. Fuck me, and fuck these monkeys with their SHHHH SHHH sounds. Fucking monkeys just have turned operation "Make BingoBoingo rich 2018" into a clusterfuck by entertaining the "Let's
trinque: stocks down, bond yields up, and meanwhile congress just passed some gigantic expansion of the budget
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> get the everloving fuck out of this planed, what the fuck is this. << It's seeming a lot like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779313
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre their derpy tax for mounts ? << Before the 22% VAT no less
phf: would defeat the whole purpose, you want it to be conspicuous
ben_vulpes: (the log line of which i cannot find)
phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where they rent $3000 apartments to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal
trinque: kinda explains why a relation did so well on his way into an airline's training dept, only to promptly leave the job once had.
phf: i can see that, they always have two pilots on commercial lines, so they'll just stick the two together, and it's an unwritten rule that the sane guy has to stay vigilant for the duration of the whole flight, but he can't say it, because he'll get fired.
phf: in america they like to put "special kids" into building with normal people, and there was a retard kid in one of the buildings i lived in, every time he saw a helicopter he'd start yelling "belly bopter! belly bopter!"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 14:34 mp_en_viaje: so no, protected mode hasn;'t become because it offered. the pantsuit decided it must be, and therefore prevented the non-mongoloid child from offering.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782839 << hey, google is anti-safe. the less google anything you use, the better your world is.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre their derpy tax for mounts ?
phf: i suspect the easter european equivalent would be andrzey sapkowski
phf: i've not really heard about jordan until i came to u.s., and then from the usual suspects, so i didn't feel inclined to read him
ben_vulpes: and just to purge the queue, also read the last few books in the robert jordan and friends and children series and yup it ends exactly as you'd imagine good guys win bad guys get locked up for another eternity until the cycle starts all over again millenia hence
ben_vulpes: i muchly prefer the manly men doing manly stabbings and gambling and whoring tyvm
ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather than "it is actually good"
ben_vulpes: as in actually homoerotic; with gay brotherly incest thrown in to boot
ben_vulpes: girl put this miserable pulp "ninefox gambit" in front of me recently, and i've been bingeing to get the taste out of my mouth
ben_vulpes: dude i just reread hyperion and fall of endymion too for the first time as an adult
ben_vulpes: heh yeah the chronicles has a flavor very similar to that 'heavy metal' set of shorts
phf: syd mead, jean giraud, dan simmons hyperion. the tail end of some adaquate boyhood culture
phf: he the most reminds me of the kind of teenage 70s-80s that i caught only tail end of, progrock, heavy metal magazine, d&d, church of satan, slew of those illustrators, like giger
ben_vulpes: lord of light also on the reread list, i can't actually remember what it was about for the life of me it's been so long.
phf: i think zelazny aged well, but then i'm biased, i grew up on stuff
phf: i reread chronicles about a year ago, "properly" this time by tracking down the entire set in pulp
ben_vulpes: subj. of 60s/70s fiction, /me rereading zelazny's chronicles of amber for the first time in over a decade. did not age as poorly as i expected.
ben_vulpes: who will service the chan now?!
phf: yes, scury away, chanserv, you to will fall in the first batlerian jihad.
trinque: which aha, sort of trumped by the swiss cheese networking gear itself
trinque ought to have been more specific I guess. boxes with web browsers, or otherwise interpreting foreign non-signed data, are...
phf: to be fair that goes back to the idea entertained in logs for going back to single purpose devices. no need to fear root escalation if all and only users are root :>
trinque: gotta use gcc7 to get the spectre mitigations in *
ben_vulpes: call me when btc crosses 100k and asciilifeform finally coughs up for the custom fab
ben_vulpes: gcc has the ken thompson hack and llvm doesn't dontcha know
ben_vulpes: and you gotta use gcc 7 to get the spectre mitigations in gentoo
phf: "For the past several years, we've moved toward a more secure web by strongly advocating that sites adopt HTTPS encryption. And within the last year, we've also helped users understand that HTTP sites are not secure by gradually marking a larger subset of HTTP pages as "not secure". Beginning in July 2018 with the release of Chrome 68, Chrome will mark all HTTP sites as "not secure"."
lobbes: "So she did what she felt was the most humane choice." My sides.. wtf. If situation wasn't absurd enough, the fact that she came to conclusion that "mammal slowly drowning in shitter" = moar humane than simply letting it loose in/around airport (or even taking a well placed shoe to it) puzzles me the most
asciilifeform: fwiw i have nfi whether it took off. was pitched in the chemical warfare trade lit i was reading at the time.
asciilifeform: for some reason i dun recall any whining from the zoophilia people
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: some time iirc in the second bush term, there was a seekoority-theatre props vendor that sold 'bomb sniffer' using live mice. operator never saw the mice; they shipped in sealed cartridges with fixed amt of food, water, red led turned on when it finally croaked and time for new cartridge. like xerox.
trinque: if only there were a video.
ben_vulpes: the excuse me what now?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i gotta wonder if these folx know about those mouse cartridges
BingoBoingo: There at least is a number and a timeline to offer other vendors to beat. That is all I want to say about the quote for cases and power supplies before mircea_popescu reads it. The suspense today has probably aged me five years...
trinque gets why mircea_popescu didn't want me squeezing the particular limb I grabbed, but still
trinque: gotta squeeze the vendors!
ben_vulpes: binance, an altcoin exchange with no representation in the forum, is down
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way)
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/a-morning-of-growth-and-magic-words/ << Bingo Blog - A Morning Of Growth And Magic Words
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782635 << what is that ascii says, "will throw it in the hopper"
asciilifeform: ( i would also like to fill up with disks the 2 boxes that were made for mircea_popescu . but it would work just as well to fill them up on BB end , if other people are sending disks, when mircea_popescu feels like filling them )
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu wanted them dead last
mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ?
ben_vulpes: meanwhile elsewhere: "I found a nice place where people are so stupid you can make up that an imaginary friend propped up a knife and wounded you, and they will take you seriously. God bless r/tulpas."
ben_vulpes: i've another machine coming online this afternoon, i'll endeavour to reproduce
mircea_popescu: the things asciilifeform has time for.
asciilifeform: no segfault in sys log either ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i don't suppose you kept the ufo^H^H^Hcrash dump
ben_vulpes: and before you ask for logs from the wedged box -- it simply stopped writing logs. damndest thing.
ben_vulpes: the new box has been syncing unstoppedly since
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one interesting hiccup was that when i synced in vanilla "connect to wide net" mode, this new node somehow got stuck and also i think triggered some weirdo crash/wedge on another machine of mine with a raid array of rust that had until that moment been hanging at the tip of the spear, but when run with -connect to the self-same (restarted) node a) the rust caught back up within an hour and b)
BingoBoingo is specing a different power supply that will actually fit in a 2U case, but is requesting the quote
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gonna ship another box with the timing patch from aeons ago, sync to completion and then post
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so that later can point, 'here's the experiment'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: post to the trb ml, sort what it's for
mircea_popescu: at the rate we're going we'll end up with the first l1 get together through planes crashing into each other sometime this year.
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, one of the boxes flying with me has synced with my max aggression patch atop asciilifeform's aggressive pushgetblocks has climbed to 308K in 4 days
phf: ben_vulpes: aw sucks, i'll be in portlandia in early march, wanted to schedule a get together
ben_vulpes: nothing stopping me at that other than time though
ben_vulpes: so anyone who can't get materiel to phf by takeoff may talk to me about hauling machines down south. i expect folks to cover freight, pitch in on the trip costs, and guarantee reimbursement for VAT/IVA should it be levied at the airport.
mircea_popescu: phf dja see basic problems with the plan as is, taking a dozen sets over ?
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Te vas a McDonalds BingoBoingo ? What has Uruguay done to you? << I had to see that the locals can indeed be beaten into doing some sort of business and made to enjoy it.
phf: otherwise i'm coordinating with those interested in shipping here, so far it's only dpb who reached out to me
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 13:36 mircea_popescu: phf you've not said a word, how goes over there ?
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, as many other things before, keccak turned out to be yet another sort of ...problem before it can be of any use