diana_coman: myeah, from what you say alone it does sound like some error but it's not clear without the concrete case
diana_coman: phf, the bitrate has to be less than the total capacity (it should fail however earlier since the Keccak_Rate type is limited correctly)
phf: diana_coman: i was also getting some boundary issues with different bitrate issues, i couldn't figure out if it can take any natural value, or there's some specifica subranges that i have to stick to. when i spot checked with values like 1200 (or whatever), it would fail deep inside absorbblock. i'll test it again not that i have a bit of free time and see if i can reproduce
phf: i'll try my implementation against arbitrary binary data, because right now i'm still passing in C strings essentially. (i've discovered the null trim issue because one of the buffers ran short, and had stale data in it, so ada was getting a character, where null was expected, but the data itself didn't have anything umseemly about it)
diana_coman: anyways, I'll publish a bit later today chapter 12 and it has the updated Hash too
diana_coman: that Hash was the very first attempt, taking To_C and To_Ada at face value
diana_coman: phf, yes, meanwhile I changed that Hash too, to use same method so that it works out of the box basically
phf: it's hard to say what might be failing without seeing the code, but i couldn't get your Hash working out of the box (it was giving me bounadry errors out of the box), i've not gotten back to it though
diana_coman: obviously, I could also null-terminate specifically for this but overall I'm not convinced anymore it's worth the mess
diana_coman: yes, I disable them
diana_coman: phf, hm, I *did* use those; the trouble is that in principle the rsa stuff is *not* null terminated as such and I couldn't get them to work properly in such case (or is it not even possible, regardless of passing the length?)
phf: diana_coman: take a look at my recent code for ada/c interop. i've not read your C code closely, but i think you might be missing Trim_Nul => False/Append_Nul => False on your to_c to to_ada, which would trigger sporadic exceptions in the interface code
diana_coman: ave1, my current solution is to pass the length as a separate parameter indeed and in addition to actually copy octet by octet; To_C and To_Ada still fail me on occasion so I can't really rely on them - this might be of course because I don't fully understand them yet; in any case, please write it up, pretty please
ave1: Also does this have to follow the gpg format? or simply hex encoded numbers?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-28 15:57 mircea_popescu: ave1 you should ; also read through the eucrypt thing, ima (for instance) need someone to package it into a cmd line gpg replacement as soon as next wek.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-28 15:07 diana_coman: ave1 have you ever passed a char * from c to ada in such a way that ada actually sees the correct length for it? there is something I don't quite understand there as To_C seems to use Target'Length so the length should be set
ave1: diana_coman: this, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-28#1786496, triggered a short dive into the whole array sending mechanism in Ada. Will write it up and post tomorrow, yes it is possible but you'll need to make some internal structure that Ada uses. Also I doubt it is much better than sending the pointer with a separate length parameter.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/03/01/back-to-the-fat-accountancy-discussion/ << Bingo Blog - Back To The Fat Accountancy Discussion
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 13:52 spyked: anyway, comment was that I managed to compile and run vdiff with small mods; error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BiBTI/?raw=true and fix patch: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9mOiz/?raw=true (tested this with the generated vdiff); I can try to link this reply later in a comment to test.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786600 << which os/compiler is that? i suspect that i'll have to put all the annotations into system.h defines and let specific systems pass whatever in a makefile.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 13:45 spyked: hey phf! I get the "stale page" error when trying to comment on http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-keccak/ ; I also tried leaving a "fresh" comment, but I get the same error ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-18#1784931 should fix it?)
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-01#1786598 << amusingly the fix is on my own blog http://barksinthewind.com/2016/wp-content-for-a/#update1 but i must've lost the changes when i was updating the theme
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: !~later tell mircea_popescu may i buy one of the power supplies out of the S.NSA inventory asciilifeform's posession? i'll pay you .0047 btc for it
ben_vulpes: having worked to memorize the bot keycombos for some time now, i would particularly like it if they would respond to their names. this approach autocompletes for one and is far more easily visually diffed, for another.
shinohai: sorry if i offend ben_vulpes i meant the "Duh" towards myself, because i flagged help instead of of tcker
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu diana_coman: my mistake, the box is not raid5 compatible, it can do raid1 and raid10. is this okay and do you have a preference between the two?
ben_vulpes: if my meatware differ didn't catch it coming out of my fingers the first time it likely won't catch it when presented with the correct version
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It was the former, you did !!, bot listens to !~
ben_vulpes: shinohai: is this an "it works now" or "you did it wrong" sort of thing. fwiw i expect the former in the form of "it was broken because of X, i did Y to fix it, and Z to prevent it from happening again" not that you're my direct report or anything
jhvh1: shinohai: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid currency (1 more message)
spyked: anyway, comment was that I managed to compile and run vdiff with small mods; error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BiBTI/?raw=true and fix patch: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9mOiz/?raw=true (tested this with the generated vdiff); I can try to link this reply later in a comment to test.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 23:23 hanbot: <mircea_popescu> "Looks like you tried to comment off a stale page. Reload the article, count to three and try again." << for future reference, mp-wp comment fix is in the edit here: http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ , and will be a patch once that project can move again.
spyked: hey phf! I get the "stale page" error when trying to comment on http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-keccak/ ; I also tried leaving a "fresh" comment, but I get the same error ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-18#1784931 should fix it?)
phf: i think there's still something missing
phf: i think there might still be a bunch of cool stuff like that hidden in your themes, that's not in wp-mp
phf: sorry about this, i haven't finished writing it, fat fingered publish button, and then couldn't figure out how to unpublish before it hit rss.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/28/burning-fat-and-intangibles/ << Bingo Blog - Burning Fat and Intangibles
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation - State of Bitcoin Address will be delayed maybe a few days -- however it will be published by March 5th, regardless.
trinque: there appear to be freenode shenanigans today
ben_vulpes: thanks for reminding me about that; i'll answer in a bit along with your q's on the blog a little later, attention currently demanded elsewhere
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 19:22 mircea_popescu: is there any interest in this line with current management ? get a storage unit somewhere in uruguay, pile up all the pogos and other non-replenishables ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-18#1784877 dun figure in there either way... was it ever brought before the board ?
ben_vulpes: aight then
asciilifeform: going ~out~, that is. ( they will go '2 day fedex' unless ben_vulpes absolutely must have faster )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: any closer to producing an ETA for the FG shipment?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << Trilema - The "Rivers of Blood" article, or -- The Lordship list, fifth year.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:16 mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less!
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no difference between that misfortunate http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-19#761494 ; or the article's ilie alexandru, or bill gates, or the quoted nigerian, or his exact identical twin obama, or the whole rest of them.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/moartea-ca-o-veste-buna/ means "death as good news". because, to this sort of people, it actually is, the best of news. they had no business being here in the first place, life on earth was naught but overburden and the anxiety incumbent from overburdening.
mircea_popescu: bill gates, like any other "oligarch", was made in ye olde socialist manner of "the great inca decrees so-and-so is to fill the role of great rich businessman". it is entirely a paper-only affair of the substance, and of the nature, AND EVEN OF THE FORM! of "joining the hood", carefully not to be scam, and rich through having numbers in bank account etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, getting back to the point of bill gates / whatever pantsuit commentators on the fringes of the republic and old man jamemary of jamemary114@gmail.com / whatever nigger commentators ~ALSO!!!!~ very much exactly and entirely identically in each and every way also! on the fringes of the republic : there's really no difference.
hanbot: there's only one PIN in opinions, sounds dangerous.
mircea_popescu: ^ there, it's even wordwrapped for greater conveniences. always the tell-tale sign of an lively, active intelligence, this wordwrap business.
mircea_popescu: to me by the Illuminati and also have
mircea_popescu: so happy to say to the world that am one
mircea_popescu: the pot of riches which I did and today, am
mircea_popescu: before I can join the hood but to my
mircea_popescu: net so I contacted the agent , I was so
mircea_popescu: the hood but I was scam several times ,
mircea_popescu: testimony on how I finally join the
mircea_popescu: you know, i have some barely literate opinions from other niggers here for you, if you must read ?
ben_vulpes: that's enough i'm going to stop slamming my dick in the drawer now
ben_vulpes: and in other offensively stupid crap: "The private key, or PIN is what gives your bitcoin its value...Digital platforms like Coinbase don't give users a bitcoin PIN" holy crap the word salad
ben_vulpes: "the main feature of cryptocurrencies is their anonymity. i don't think this is a good thing" -- bill gates http://fortune.com/2018/02/27/bill-gates-on-bitcoin-ripple-price-reddit-2018/
asciilifeform: in either case you gotta pick a max length for the thing, and copy ~up to~ that many bytes. but this is prolly obvious.
asciilifeform: ... or use the secondary-stack-using standard mechanism for this ( or ave1's replacement, potentially ) .
asciilifeform: ada folx: re making ada strings out of the c variety : strlen(char *) is a potentially lethal op ( suppose the nullterminator is missing ) so it will never be called implicitly by ada. you gotta either call strlen deliberately on c side, and then form ( can be on stack , declare ... Foo : String(1 .. Length) ... , say, a la http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch4_ffacalc#L53 ) a proper ada string and copy the cstring into it.
mircea_popescu: ave1 you should ; also read through the eucrypt thing, ima (for instance) need someone to package it into a cmd line gpg replacement as soon as next wek.
mircea_popescu: caaddr Valfor next i see your name in any other context than "here is the useful i did" comes the banning.
diana_coman: ave1 have you ever passed a char * from c to ada in such a way that ada actually sees the correct length for it? there is something I don't quite understand there as To_C seems to use Target'Length so the length should be set
diana_coman: ave1, aha, byte by byte was what I ended up doing at testing stage just to see it really working; hopefully I'll still get it working properly with To_C as such and then I can still avoid the C.Strings, stick with the procs To_Ada and To_C; it's not going to be pretty but at least the mess is as small as I can see a way to do it now
ave1: BTW for an Ada IRC bot experiment, I'm working with buffers on both sides (ADA <--> C) and moving bytes one by one. This seems to deliver the cleanest code. (but will probably not ever be Mbytes per second)
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/south-africa-set-to-begin-uncompensated-land-thefts/ << Qntra - South Africa Set To Begin Uncompensated Land Thefts
ave1: mostly the other way around, but I'll be happy to help out. (I'm slowly reading through the gnat runtime library code, I just realized I should write more notes while reading through this...)
ave1: diana_coman: will you be depending on interfaces.c or interfaces.c.strings packages (I'v done some initial work on modified versions of these that do not need a second stack)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-28 00:50 mircea_popescu: ave1 also possibly your comments table is ill-formatted ? there's no 4.
ave1: Yeah, I know! I wanted to squeeze in this comment, but did not find a good position in the table to put the reference in. I'll just let it stand as a separate comment without number. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-28#1786463
ave1: thanks!, I updated the post.
mircea_popescu: ave1 also possibly your comments table is ill-formatted ? there's no 4.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the harem files : girl makes blackforest chocolate cake, out of my magical 100% chocolate bars. as per instructions adds very little sugar. item is ready, tiny slices are served, it's utterly delicious. then the calorie calculation is made. the 2kg cake has 4800 calories. girls decide they can not afford the calories.
asciilifeform: that dithering
mod6: Alright, settled then. Thanks.
mod6: One thing, I don't think I ever mentioned yet; I intend to fill The Bitcoin Foundation's board seat on Pizarro's board. Unless anyone objects to this.
mircea_popescu: (the obvious benefit for you is that eventually you'll be able to say "ledger only runs to the past x lines or y calls of ledger, whichever is longer. this may seem as "nothing" but mind the "unbounded strings" fallacy. everything has to have a length.)
mircea_popescu: cool. and while i think unixtime is fine in the actual ledger, i'd prefer human date in the breaklines
mircea_popescu: the benefit is that it provides natural checkpoints when one's doing the books, so doesn't have to start from adam every time. eventually these run long, especially if one's active.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/27/useful-things-for-hostel-living/ << Bingo Blog - Useful Things For Hostel Living
BingoBoingo: And the laffs keep jaoking on
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-27#1786368 << infection free in just four months, the wonder
trinque: thanks to ben_vulpes for reporting a rounding error in the display, caused by use of insufficiently girthy type.
pinochle: long time log eater, taking steps a la http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/
state_bits: Hope to keep stopping by to sharpen myself against the spinning blades etc
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 23:11 joecool: BingoBoingo: probable creators of bitcoin filed suit against each other last week, I have the complaint
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell joecool It looks like you sat too long putting togther that "exclusive". Now the world knows Craig Wright is being sued for 10 Billion dollars and such are the wages of convincingly faking the wrong papers.
BingoBoingo: From the Bawlling And Butthurt files: https://archive.is/w4daN "Westminster’s prospective buyer only changed its name from Jiangsu Zhongtai Bridge Steel Structure Co. to Kaiwen at the end of December"
mod6: ben_vulpes: It's a deal then! Can pay sometime today yet. Invoice me if you like even. I'll pay with my deedbot acct.
mod6: Wanna give dpb a chance here tho, before I accept. I feel like 24 hours should be fine since the time of my posting.
mod6: Aha, very competitive pricing there.
ben_vulpes: mod6: i'll do the 5 for 0.7838890 btc; that's a 10% markup from pizarro's cost plus ~20usd for shipping
mod6: Alright, I'm taking quotes on those 5 FGs now. Please add in a bit for shipping to MN. Would like to see them packaged like this: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/20170328_125346.jpg
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/06c-ffa-egypt-proof.html << The Tar Pit - Egyptian div and mul "work": a correctness proof for the arithmetic operations in FFA Chapter 5
a111: Logged on 2018-02-26 17:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, more generally, don't do the work-for-drawer idiocy. do things ; publish them, and so on.
mircea_popescu: so unless you actually want the next 100 once we assemble them... you're stuck dealing with one or the other
mircea_popescu: mod6 no offense, and sorry for the contorted ; but in thew business game we're currently playing nsa is going to only want to sell in bulk see
asciilifeform was just about to retort to 'insurance on fg, lol' with 'fg is eternal iron' but then remembered that cpld's eeprom is rated for somewhere like 20yrs. naturally it can be refreshed via the jtag connector and my signed payload, as many times as one likes.
mircea_popescu: well... it'll pass with me for fairytale reasons (irl i wouldn't have any reason to buy insurance on a fg, seeing how that'll be the day, and besides i got alf to squeeze ; but let's play.)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm going to roll the FGs into the rental cost of the machine; 20% markup for a year paid up front for the whole kit and caboodle if that passes with you
mircea_popescu: aaalmost there.
asciilifeform: ok worx. all goes out by thurs at the very worst.
ben_vulpes: can you jit them to me instead of your workshop?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: also plox to specify if you want the usb snakes, or sans ( the latter -- slightly faster , i 'jit'-stock snakes )
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'll take 'em in exchange for the note at 0.5. ty!
mircea_popescu: anyway, more generally, don't do the work-for-drawer idiocy. do things ; publish them, and so on.
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the benefit of redundancy in correct code ?
mircea_popescu: i guess. but there's so much work not currently bering handled seems somewhat of a waste to re-do things already done.
spyked: mircea_popescu, do you mean the irc logger? well, I figured moar redundancy can't do any harm; and it started as an occasion to study the various ways in which common lisp can handle the various pieces (database, irc, http). what I have so far is not very different from btcbase.org/patches/logbot-genesis , only I made it a point to avoid quicklisp and use manual imports etc.
mircea_popescu: spyked the bot is a solved problem, genesis and all.
spyked: translations. I've been piling 'em up and taking them in small bits, which makes this very much non-productive work on the short term. I can prioritize if you deem any item to be particularly important (and I think it'd be best to first publish some of these before embarking on further quests)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-26#1786219 <-- hey, that sounds like a really neat project, I wouldn't mind adding it to the list. on a related note, /me has been on a sort of semi-holiday for the last 2 months, which led to a lot of exploration on items of potential republican interest. e.g. the ada lisp scriptlang, an irc logger bot (which I could spin into a rss bot), the text browser thing and some out-of-the-blue ro-en Trilema
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite frustrating, i know there ~was~ this thread. but no dice re finding when, where.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you remember this btw ? exact sister argument to the dioxin-less tomato crate, but with "weigh EXACTLY, fucker" instead.
mircea_popescu: then we wonder why the kids are "transgender". but as their life conditions become more like these offered by sea anemone (ie, a very sparse stone cubicle in a very hostile ocean), the clows will naturally be more like clownfish.
a111: Logged on 2013-09-30 07:12 mircea_popescu: second largest. The rest of the group is made up of progressively smaller non-breeders, which have no functioning gonads. If the female dies, the male gains weight and becomes the female for that group. The largest non-breeding fish then sexually matures and becomes the male of the group.
a111: Logged on 2013-09-30 07:12 mircea_popescu: Protandrous hermaphrodites refer to organisms that are born male and at some point in their lifespan change sex to female. Protandrous animals include clownfish. Clownfish have a very structured society. In the Amphiprion percula species, there are zero to four individuals excluded from breeding and a breeding pair living in a sea anemone. Dominance is based on size, the female being the largest and the male being the
lobbes: re: dom, I've been wondering if it would be worth it to leverage this to build the trees. alternative I guess would be to parse the downloaded files from archive.is and build based on that
mircea_popescu: but the implications are far-reaching (for one example : sinonymy rings can be declared, whereby a set of images are declared equivalent to trilema's rss.svg, so i can simply see that in there instead of w/e insanity the author picked)\
mircea_popescu: which is the original problem you started with.
mircea_popescu: lobbes webpages are just idiotic programs. you familiar with how the dom works ? it's just a tree structure, more grossly of resources ("img src=" ; script = " etc) and more finely of tagged elements (<b> <div> etc).
a111: Logged on 2018-02-26 03:27 mircea_popescu: lobbes you understand what the AST is for a [web]page [of code] ?
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-26#1786246 << ahh okay, I misunderstood (glad I asked). So each archived webpage will have its own abstract syntax tree of the code. Now I'm starting to see the utility in deduping (e.g. can ignore 'meaningless' changes between otherwise identical webpages (such as an extra whitespace, etc))
mircea_popescu: hey, keep with the zero overhead ada compiles
lobbesbot: ave1: Sent 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> so i finally tested, exhaustively, and turns out you were completely correct re the inline pragma, gcc ~sometimes~ ( when it wants... ) inlines when it is not given in the .ads . i'ma fix this in ch12, this find deserves own chapter, with re-done timings for errything
mircea_popescu: lobbes you understand what the AST is for a [web]page [of code] ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes you understand what the AST is for a [webpage
lobbes: and if 4) is correct, then should that be further broken down into a webpage hierarchy? Because if so, we may be limited using archive.is as a middle-man as the zips it spits out do not have the file structure intact; always 'flat' (e.g. this archived orlol: http://lobbesblog.com/archive/102.zip)
lobbes: I am guessing it will be something like: 1) root 2) nodes for 'distinct url', each who has child nodes representing 3) historical instances of that 'distinct url', each who has child notes representing 4) the collection of files that make up that webpage
lobbes: so, here's what I understand thus far re: my goal (plox to correct me): essentially construct a 'tree' of the set of all webpages archived. the 'root' will be the hash of all branches. where I'm still fuzzy is how the remaining branhces/nodes are to be structured (though perhaps this may become clear to me upon further study)
lobbes: mircea_popescu: while I'm still working through my self-directed remedial mathematics studies to understand merkle-trees at a functional level, what I have learned so far got me thinking:
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in leathery goods, http://78.media.tumblr.com/1a41b67671cd2ba74a5299187dffd2a1/tumblr_nf32g7ESAM1to0cl0o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: of course. that's why i say, why not own the central word.
trinque: ah other than it being in that language you keep in your torture room, nothin!
mircea_popescu: well for one thing one can't /ignore the rss cuz of deedbot. it's a little much.
trinque: upstack a bit, I can see the argument for separating functionality into meaningful (nick)names
mircea_popescu: joecool ? you doing anything these days ?
mircea_popescu: well, i was more probing if you actually want to implement the whole rss thing yourself or pass it along to some noob.
mircea_popescu: conceivably 2 should be a separate bot also ; but a) as long as tyou're maintaining both and b) they really need very much the same level of security and assurance, it doesn't seem worth the hassle.
mircea_popescu: 2 already works in pm, so there's no absolute reason shouldn't work in any other channel, if you're willing to put the work into that.
mircea_popescu: now as to 1, i don't think it should be out of chan, on one hand because "secret" deeds plainly don't make sense ; on the other because the voice thing is ~probably~ premature in channel that is both new and customer facing. but in principle certainly could in the future have local l1 with voice model for diff channel, i think.
mircea_popescu: so there's three classes of things : 1. deedbot "proper" let's say, doing !!deed + the wot + the whole !!up system ; 2. deedbot payments ; 3. deedbot fluff, doing things like rss.
trinque: there's a publisher/subscriber model in use, services being subscribers which are notified of new messages they might be interested in
mircea_popescu: otherwise you know, if the process running on the box where you do payments ALSO curls http://random.website/rss every 5 minutes... not so great.
mircea_popescu: ah. so then it's a name-only thing, might as well have a rss bot name on the rss bot item
mircea_popescu: running on the same box ?
trinque: I don't understand the question.
mircea_popescu: the rss stuff ?
mircea_popescu: im not sure i want to have you maintain rss-shenanigans as part of deedbot proper, they're widely disjunct seriousness.
trinque: the whole thing is modular.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 14:56 mircea_popescu: trinque should prolly make the public blog rss thing a l1 blackballable item. ie anyone deedbot trusts can ask (in channel) for any item to be discontinued -- and it is.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if you actually make the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784956 item then that'd prolly want its own #pizarro list ; but also by now it's such a complex piece of gnarl might even want to separate a rss-bot out of deedbot
mircea_popescu: trinque what functions would work out of chan though ? seems the ones that don't work in pm (!!deed say) shouldn't ; and the ones that work in pm... welll...
trinque: there'll be some fee involved for those, would like to hear what interested users are willing to pay.
ben_vulpes: no need for voice over there yet, but sure no rush
trinque: I don't see why not, after I make sure other parts (voicing etc) work
ben_vulpes: sweet trinque does that mean i can get deedbot in #pizarro then?
trinque: spent a good amount of time today getting the logbot-command class working with ben_vulpes' multiple channel support
trinque: alrighty, got some timestamps to make more human, but there it is.
trinque: huh, got some wires crossed then. bbl
trinque: no, it's the wallet ledger for you
mircea_popescu: i expect it's the story of !!balance
mod6: heh, does !!ledger encode the whole block chain for a guy to get?
trinque: all all the commands are limited to pm, one sec
mod6: Thanks for digging that up phf! archive.is seems to have trouble pulling the patch directly from shithub. I've grabbed it and posted it myself for the ages: http://archive.is/1w3Kx
phf: now this could be misconstrued as a passive aggressive "how about now! can you read it now!", but my middle click copy paster failed, and then it's znc that's throttle sending. i figured i could kill znc, but mp was faster on the draw
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell phf sorry about that ; but srsly either bvulpes link or simply From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org> would have sufficed.
phf: "Stores the wallet decryption key in memory for <timeout> seconds.");
phf: 2^31 seconds since the epoch. Hopefully boost will be fixed by 2028.
phf: because it currently sleeps for 0 seconds when the sleep time would cross
mircea_popescu: i mean this literally, they went offline at some point.
phf: fair, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/82a10c81707dcff5ee24dec7ef7ebf8eccfded03.patch then
a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 19:55 mircea_popescu: who put that abomination in there and why!
ben_vulpes: it is of the lowest priority
ben_vulpes foolishly https://alexcabal.com/creating-the-perfect-gpg-keypair/ once upon a time
ben_vulpes: trinque: possible to get deedbot.org's list of deeds to link to my fingerprint instead of the signing key fingerprint?
BingoBoingo: <phf> easiest way to get a rise out of my iranian colleagues is to suggest that samovar and olivier salad were not "invented" by iranians << I enjoy telling the Argentines their mate has too many sticks and twigs
mod6: (doesn't hurt if others do this as well!)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 20:29 mod6: And rather than do a fast job to complete this ; I think the right approach is to comb through the entire thing and ensure that no UTF-8 is hiding.
mod6: I'm on it, The Foundation is going to close out the month with the SoBA. This work will be high priority post month-end.
mod6: And rather than do a fast job to complete this ; I think the right approach is to comb through the entire thing and ensure that no UTF-8 is hiding.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing the only way out of this predicament is to have an actual regrind, into a new genesis, of all the patches we actually want.
mircea_popescu: chiefly because we didn't actually understand at the time what we were doing.
mod6: I pulled the original posts from the ML, and then started looking for "e2 80 94" which I ~think~ is the bad char.
mod6: Looks like this UTF-8 problem with the dashes goes all the way back - and looks like we've all signed it with that in there:
mircea_popescu: so is it your comment typed out on a mac, is the idea ?
mircea_popescu: the guillemets are actually french not russian eh!
phf: i still have muscle memory for dashes, quotes and a few math symbols on mac en layout. (i would even differentiate between russian << .. >> and en `` .. ''). this stuff seemed like the future in the early 2000s..
phf: mod6: right, that's the right thing to do; for a longest time i was still pressing with the original v.py, but i suspect most people (except maybe ascii) use v.pl at this point
mircea_popescu: who put that abomination in there and why!
mircea_popescu: 23962 /*Boost has a year 2038 problem— if the request sleep time is past epoch+2^31 seconds the sleep returns instantly.
mod6: what my vtron does is this: as it iterates through the list of patches to be pressed, after each vpatch pressed, it checks that the output file sha matches the expected.
phf: i think right now the way things are implemented (that goes for btcbase anyway) you can have a chain, that links correctly, but actually doesn't press to anything at all like what the hashes claim
phf: mod6: an important thing to add to v might be a check ~after~ the press, which ensures that final states of files have shasums that the vpatch chain claims they should
phf: i have a btcbase based test harnes, but it of course also didn't catch the issue, because it doesn't know about `\ No newline ...' in band thing either. it treats that line as a textual prelude to the next hunk which is a valid patch format
mircea_popescu: nice find then.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 01:46 hanbot: phf : patched fix for vdiff produced a genesis for me but complains about 'no newline at end of file' for some 67 files. not clear to me whether i oughta be concerned/what gives.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785986 << i thought that it was just a helpful warning, but upon reflection i realized that this is actually a bug. investigating it further i took a wrong direction on a diff's command line flag switch, and as it stands if you see this warning it
mircea_popescu does not envy his northern friends.
BingoBoingo: shinohai ty, edited "Ya Socialismo" to "Oriental socialism", different meat substrates and gotta keep the Chicoms burning time on Engrish lessons.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "what DID you think she's doing at the gym ?!" http://78.media.tumblr.com/0868d6d5a02c8a39726ecef651b77f7c/tumblr_nebhvbxEBw1td2k0ko1_400.gif
asciilifeform: and i was thinking nearly same thing re the price.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, diana utterly owns "ossasepia" in teh google. wd eh,
hanbot: meanwhile, my dad's back on the job market after a ~10 year break, keeps sending scariest want ads he finds. week's winner is "CPA (Confined Space Attendant) - Hole Watch"
hanbot: phf : patched fix for vdiff produced a genesis for me but complains about 'no newline at end of file' for some 67 files. not clear to me whether i oughta be concerned/what gives.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/24/conscious-contact-and-other-things/ << Bingo Blog - Conscious Contact And Other Things
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785665 <- hmmm, I can see the utility of this and I can see it as something built on top of eucrypt but I'm not totally sure I see a very strong case for including it in eucrypt as such
mircea_popescu: a sort of dj quals without the cool