mircea_popescu: spyked as described this item would actually make a great node ; whether the practice holds is to be seen in practice.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> he is better than you rural hicks from southern ill! << This is true. At his age I was solidly anti-productive.
spyked: mircea_popescu: yeh I'm definitely considering that! the reason I've postponed getting an ARM board at all was the lack of a full-fledged SATA 3 port. I wanna get trb running on arm at some point among others.
mircea_popescu: he is better than you rural hicks from southern ill!
douchebag: I will be in the United States in april
spyked: asciilifeform yeah I was talking about the ROC-RK3328-CC. it seems a tad beefier than the olimex counterpart. but otherwise yeah, olimex live very close to me, had a board delivered in ~2 days some months ago.
mod6: instead of the united retards
BingoBoingo: douchebag: If you keep impressing and outgrow the ARM thing, there are worse places to vacation after dropping off a box than Uruguay. The best weather here runs December to February though.
spyked: re arm box, /me was considering buying the arm64 olinuxino from teh olimex people. the rockchip board seems very similar (++ on the USB3 port), but I can't seem to find it in the EU.
mircea_popescu: the republic's de facto moving towards hardware specialization, there's on one hand the very heavy cpu machines (of which sha miners are a subset, phuctor is another, and so on), and then the sort of thing like this, typified by a trb node machine.
asciilifeform: douchebag: similar, but without the closed shitware iron
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 18:27 asciilifeform: ROC-RK3328-CC ( currently building a kernel for it, without the 'evil' periphs )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sent US mail, with "International Stamp" per the sender's description
lobbes: Perhaps I ought to go through all my existing designs, map them out, and then blog post em for forum critique.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, the Ururuayan things with that string on their signage don't look like that.
mircea_popescu: lobbes on the positive side, this is how they were born in the first place, by people thinking about it. no revelation under the sun.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 18:37 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792321 << sounds like local knockoff. this thing only exists in cr, some local entrepreneur (in the proper sense of the term) made a supermarket that actually works.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792546 << Here it isn't a singluar entity running them. It's what they call gas stations without the gas pumps.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, your page is stale. it was already fixed in the latest version!
mircea_popescu: lobbes you lopped off a digit from the url ; it goes by #17924
mircea_popescu: lobbes the only important consideration here is that design is not a haphazard activity driven by occurence and circumstance. that's implementation. design is a deductive activity, it proceeds from first principles and does not break faith.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:57 BingoBoingo: In other news, the nose is mostly under control. South American cold still has my energy rather zapped. The Incan nurse however did apologize last night.
lobbes: To wrap back to this discussion, I think I see your point. There's no real reason this craptop needs to deal with the user input at all. All I need it for is to download, store and parse shit download from archive.is. >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#17924
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:44 douchebag: last time I tried looking there were so broken links
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:36 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up. << Here "automercados" are
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792321 << sounds like local knockoff. this thing only exists in cr, some local entrepreneur (in the proper sense of the term) made a supermarket that actually works.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792317 << well conceivably for the same reason alf isn't bringing back phuctor, neh. cuz he doesn't as of yet have where to bring it back from!
asciilifeform: ( also comes with audio and video but i do not need these and have not tried'em )
asciilifeform: the other interesting pheature of this board is that it has no onboard flash. so nothing to sanitize aside from sdcard.
asciilifeform: and (unlike e.g. 'raspberry') the full datashits and schems are published.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that these boxen draw ~2 - 5 watt. and are of the physical dimensions of a pack of cards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i like the model.
mircea_popescu: douchebag alf lands in the oriental republic sometime mid month ; you'll get your login then, an' your first task will be to get trb up on it ; and the tasks 2 throught 999 will be to have fun.
asciilifeform: then will simply clone the gentoo for each new user ( or he can transmit a SD image , signed , and BingoBoingo will pump it in, plug in a board, and up an' running )
asciilifeform: hdd is a highspeed SD card , and can be of any size ; there is also a usb3 jack, 480MB/s; and a 1G/s nic.
asciilifeform: the unit i am testing ( will buy a few moar once i'm satisfied that it is usable ) came with 2G. there is a 4G supposedly also in production, but i was not able to obtain it
asciilifeform: chinese thing, they publish schematic , even.
asciilifeform: ROC-RK3328-CC ( currently building a kernel for it, without the 'evil' periphs )
asciilifeform: the arm gentoo i am cooking up as we speak.
mircea_popescu: douchebag i'll get you a sever once the pizarro folk unwrap their heads enough to actually have one on offer. so you can tinker on gentoo, trb etc and get out of the "vps" bs hell.
lobbes: Anyways, archivetron's url snarf has been temporarily disabled for obvious reasons. Will resume once I plug these holes tonight
mircea_popescu: lol. i was going to buy you the pro yearly package, actually. but since you already have it, no need :D
douchebag: now he has a couple other people working on it, I know ones name is James Kettle
mircea_popescu: https://portswigger.net/burp/help/collaborator << that burp thing's not even retarded. runs a dummy server on the side, ns, everything.
lobbes: Just know, I'm prolly the easiest target here :P
lobbes: douchebag really though, this has been a wake up call to get my shit together. Ty again
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i wasn't initially going to say anything besides "nay" ; but hey, pizarro's a friend of ours, so : nsa would sell the spare machine for cost, which is about .371. comes with two fgs installed and free shipping.
mircea_popescu: lobbes well fine, but i was discussing teh design as such. there's no rule against "i have a crappy box for a server that's not worth placing in a dc so it sits in garage", sure. nor is there any rule against "i just simplified speech, called it homebox, it's not" -- but what you say is all i have to go on, that's all.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: the logs, but it is an old craptop with an ssd dedicated to public toilet Only place I had to store the gbs of archive data.
mircea_popescu: conceptually, if it's talking to you it's an infangwif ; if it's talking to the outside it's an outsidewif. why are you fucking streetwalkers / sending the wife to walk the streets ?
lobbes: Oya. Hey, this is the peril of "learning as you go"
douchebag: and how are you passing these to archive.is
lobbes: the bot operates from an external vps (not my home ip). Shoves urls into a db which my home box downloads and then passes eaxh one to archive.is.
douchebag: lobbes: How often does the bot search ?
douchebag: Are any of these things being manually passed into bash commands
douchebag: Can you send me links to the scripts ?
douchebag: or on the link???
douchebag: Alright, give me a moment I just didn't want to bother anyone with my payloads
BingoBoingo: Best case it's just the FBI and they are too busy chasing imaginary Russians to notice you walking away with their server
douchebag: To see if I get another pingback
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792252 << there is still time to turn back from nubbinsing, shinohai
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:29 shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324728 << one could also behave a bit more becoming of a "Lord" and wait until official defrocking occurs before leading the negrate charge?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792298 << what do these two have to do with each other anyway. there should be a difference between doing wrong and not doing enough. not every burgher can be in the town council, that dun mean he's bankrupt now or something, what the hell.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:24 douchebag: no clue, I just checked the logs and saw that lolz.txt was grabbed via wget
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792296 << oh don't be silly. i now concur with alf, this is no indication of anything yet. get it to do it systematically, in reaction to something you control, THEN you have maybe something.
mircea_popescu: vulnerable home computers are pestilentially common ; did you get to the portion in the logs where we logged into a shitton of servers administering solar panels ?
mircea_popescu: but very distantly read. it's a perl meatgrinder, i'm sure it misses most of the meat.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:07 asciilifeform: this is possibly foreign concept in 'web' world, but over here in the adult world people , for instance, read logs. every day.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792286 << i very well fucking don't. jesus christ, 1mn+ lines/day, god help me. i catgrep the item now and again, but the odds of me noticing something in there are pretty slim.
lobbes: Re: douchebag's recent wget payload: I can confirm that it most likely wasn't my archivebot. The bot doesn't download links directly, it stores list of urls found in chan and forwards them to the archive.is submit form
mircea_popescu has noticed over the years that the usage of screen is a sort of pons asinorum in computer usage. like the oil rag cloth in a car distinguishes pisi tourist from the driver who actually maintains the machinery ; or like condoms on the nightstand distinguish the woman from the girl and so on.
mircea_popescu: a ok then.
mircea_popescu: the proper who ?
douchebag: Actually, I exited out of that - I'm able to retrieve it but I need to know the proper request to send. waiting on a response from that right now
douchebag: I need to get the boxes full IP
mircea_popescu: not entirely intractable to discern whether human is involved or not.
mircea_popescu: this is a theory we can easily verify. douchebag write f2c26beed4 on the boxes' tits or something. can you get it reliably ?
asciilifeform: ... but in this case, wasn't mine. and, interestingly, apparently not trinque either
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's observation was that every idjit crapartist probing an asciilifeform-tended box , ever, without exception thought 'ooh, my wget ran' when asciilifeform reads log , and then , on specially-designated box, manually probes back & grabs payload
asciilifeform: nobody seems to know who or what ran the wget
mircea_popescu: (consider, the way linux works today, if i can run wget as a user i can take the box, the memory leaks.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the pic shows that he got "something" to load a file from his filehost. supports the theory that has rce, if he can run wget he can run plenty.
mircea_popescu: douchebag dood is building the UCI before we even have it lmao.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 12:39 douchebag: the IP address begins with 174.108
BingoBoingo: douchebag: The added value in running more nodes is generally spreading the network geographically, etc. There's little value in adding yet another nominal node to the same box or AWS freakshow
mircea_popescu: douchebag generally it runs on actual dedicated machines, rather than vps.
mircea_popescu: (they, self-importantly, didn't want to give self up to #b-a, because of course http://trilema.com/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 12:30 shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324610 <<< I'm sorry, been working on my new book "How to set chmod permissions in under 1 minute so users can log into their shell, and other things isp ops should know!" .... but I'll look into that as time permits.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792252 << lol wait, is he on the list of pizarro victims, with thewhet, minigame an' so on ? or what dramas am i missing here ?
BingoBoingo: Roughly coincided with the GAW miners drama.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Remember the "Reddit Police" DDoS bot?
trinque: douchebag: consider that if you figure out which box responded to you, you at the very least can improve some Lord's bot for him, maybe lobbes' archivebot slurped it? At best, (if it was done in PM), you've got something else listening in, slurping things up.
asciilifeform: and yes BingoBoingo i did think of the item you mentioned, and already prepared it, it ought to satisfy
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo , possibly i already asked this a while back and then lost -- but plox to gpg me a postage addr where you can get mail. i want to try experiment.
BingoBoingo: In other news, the nose is mostly under control. South American cold still has my energy rather zapped. The Incan nurse however did apologize last night.
BingoBoingo: douchebag: On MPEx, there's proxy issues being sorted out. Sometimes the proxies run away and MP has to chain them back to his Ex
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792252 << there is still time to turn back from nubbinsing, shinohai
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:20 shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324728 << one could also behave a bit more becoming of a "Lord" and wait until official defrocking occurs before leading the negrate charge?
douchebag: last time I tried looking there were so broken links
BingoBoingo: roughly convenience stores. The servicios tend to have better sandwiches
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up. << Here "automercados" are
shinohai: I mean, i still can't play eulora because minigame.bz/ hasn't a server, but i certainly didn't negrate the lot of the #pizarro folks.
trinque: gpg me the full IP?
douchebag: I have no clue - I woke up this morning and saw it in the logs
douchebag: Okay so what's the question?
trinque: yeah I followed that part the first time
douchebag: And I saw the file actually was requested with wget from an IP address I did not recognize
douchebag: trinque: I was just issuing commands to the bot
shinohai: ben_vulpes is also aware *why* checking if bot is in #trilema these days is kinda low on list of priorities, as i am in field and only read logs.
asciilifeform: shinohai: ben_vulpes made the reason for his neg quite unmysterious, imho
trinque: douchebag: I'm asking what the test was, which involved lolz.txt
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792252 << there is still time to turn back from nubbinsing, shinohai
shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324728 << one could also behave a bit more becoming of a "Lord" and wait until official defrocking occurs before leading the negrate charge?
douchebag: no clue, I just checked the logs and saw that lolz.txt was grabbed via wget
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 12:30 shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324610 <<< I'm sorry, been working on my new book "How to set chmod permissions in under 1 minute so users can log into their shell, and other things isp ops should know!" .... but I'll look into that as time permits.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792252 << there is still time to turn back from nubbinsing, shinohai
asciilifeform: this is possibly foreign concept in 'web' world, but over here in the adult world people , for instance, read logs. every day.
douchebag: Yeah I figured that was a possibility, I just figured I would mention that incase the code did get executed by anything unintentionally
asciilifeform: tho the moar likely explanation is that trinque read the machine log, and, laughing, went to look at what was in yer intended payload url
douchebag: asciilifeform: Basically last night I was sending commands in the bot that would lead to remote code execution
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 12:39 douchebag: the IP address begins with 174.108
lobbes bbl; off to the saltmines
lobbes: either way, I'll try and slap up a vanilla gribble on my pizarro shell later this night
a111: Logged on 2018-03-24 00:50 shinohai: I can tar the plugins up for you if you need 'em.
douchebag: the IP address begins with 174.108
shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324610 <<< I'm sorry, been working on my new book "How to set chmod permissions in under 1 minute so users can log into their shell, and other things isp ops should know!" .... but I'll look into that as time permits.
deedbot: ben_vulpes updated rating of shinohai from 1 to -1 << ran off and took a rather useful tool with him
mircea_popescu: and in case anyone is missing the usagi era of bitcoin, it didn't end, it just moved on : http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/david-wood-claims-he-can-heal-cancer-herpes-hiv-aids-diabetes/
mircea_popescu: "In March 2018, the blog had 7,556 page views and I made $27.09!!"
mircea_popescu: in other webamusements, https://www.themastermindwithin.com/thoughts/blog-traffic-and-income-report-march-2018/
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-02 16:54 mircea_popescu: we just discussed this ; s.nsa is at the most selling one of the two spares. ill run the numbers later an' give you an aye or nay.
mircea_popescu: sed + awk are the excel of posix.
mircea_popescu: and now consider something like cat *** | grep "data.maryland.gov" | awk '{print $19..$22}' | sort -u << "get me the fields 19th through 22nd, once only, and sorted alphabetically".
mircea_popescu: trinque i despise tools that make you escape. really, it's fucking dumb, let the metachar be settable so i can not need it.
mircea_popescu: lobbes here's a bonus : suppose you have a lengthy file (such as say a server log) and you want to extract just one column. you got awk : cat hurr.txt | awk '{print $3}' (and -F will set the delimiter if space's no good).
lobbes: turns out the whole kibo site is only 40 mb or so, so I figured I'd try and mirror the whole thing (after browsing it last night, I realized that the meta aspects of the site are part of the fun)
lobbes currently hacking a script to convert all the absolute references in my downloaded kibo.com to relative
lobbes: finally sat down and learned some basic sed commands. I especially love the ability to chose an alternate delimiter; makes certain cases of escaping characters a breeze!
mircea_popescu: so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up.
douchebag: trinque: For my writeup, do you want exploits that can actively be exploited on trb or just exploits in the dependencies used?
mircea_popescu: https://preview.ibb.co/eODLsH/000561fd_fca2_e814_01a7_4981143cd1f1_958.jpg the typical gingerly first timer anal-izer.
trinque: lol nah I had one of those before, wrong jusrisdiction to straighten her out, as per the definitive trilema.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "Hey! I'm Ashley. I'm an 18 year old girl living in Houston, TX who's in a bit of a financial bind at the moment. I'm a senior in high school. I don't even have my drivers license or a ride to work so it's not like I can get a normal job at the moment."
trinque: command is a dumb string until the OTP is confirmed, and then gets parsed and certain type demands are made of the result
mircea_popescu: deedbot the imperturbable.
trinque: idea is portage, the gentoo package build system, is redone in V
trinque: but as dianan_coman observed, the outside world moved, while the thing hadn't yet eaten enough of the outside world.
mircea_popescu: douchebag there's an almost-official gentoo version floating about, we're working towards making it definitive.
trinque: this'd be why I didn't use the floopy lisp for the math (yes, could've done the checks in floopy lisp, but.)
mircea_popescu: also if you manage to upset the developer's expectation javascript uses ints, it'll fail all sorta 4.9999998 = 5 tests
asciilifeform inevitably recalls the parable with the drunkard, who searched for the lost coin 'where the light is', rather than where he had dropped it
trinque: no, there are not.
douchebag: It also leads me to wonder if there are any race conditions in deedbot
douchebag: And if the bot was checking if my balance is greater or equal to the value sent, it would obviously pass
asciilifeform: the folx who Never Suspected minus sign exists -- live elsewhere
douchebag: The idea was that if the bot subtracts the value I send Ie: Balance - - 0.01 it would actually become balance + 0.01 because maths
douchebag: That's all the testing for that matter
mircea_popescu: (as you might intuit, i was a terror as a 5yo being introduced to darwinism. "so why did the other birdy quit ?" "well the guy was bigger." "so ?" "so he's affraid of him." "why ?" "because he's bigger." "So what if he's bigger ? what could he do ? just flies around like an idiot" "could peck it" "so could the smaller one!" and on and on.)
mircea_popescu: part and parcel of the problem of postmodernity, and the deep cause behind all the superficiality, is that nobody ever gets a run for his money. like in overadvanced (supercowardly) species, the whole contest of life consists of display and nothing more.
phf: it looks like i'm going to wrap up the rest of the "replicate diff/patch" this week, so that'll also be the time to start adding the clever features
phf: mircea_popescu: let's revisit this question in a couple of days, i'll give it some thought too. i want to finish regrind in the next day before hanbot is done with standing up her mp-wp instance
mircea_popescu: if you have the time i'll hussle you with annoying fundamental questions. if not, later.
asciilifeform: fwiw my format will actually eat bins without problem. ( you would still need a tool to 'human-display' them. and a differ other than unix diff. but the 'crystal' format holds arbitrary bytes, noprob )
mircea_popescu: phf that's the issue in my head, of no practical consequence as it is : why, exactly, different beast, and how ?
mircea_popescu: "ulrich drepper's famous page on". famous ? really ? how the FUCK is anything drepper did even vaguely worth the mention, let alone "famous" ? oh, because pantsuits push it, ie http://trilema.com/2012/a-conversation-with-frank-zappa-ix/#selection-231.0-233.634 ? hurr!
phf: mircea_popescu: it doesn't now, there's no reason why it can't, diffing binaries is a different beast from text diffing, so it's about adding a new kind of hunk/header formats that say "this here follows a binary diff"
asciilifeform: phf: this is curable by not using unix diff. the only lines ~produced~ by dir2txt ab initio are the decorative ones and the 1234 @ filepath . all other bytes are copies as-they-are and line-agnostically.
phf: there's an implicit inbandism in unified diff though, which is the requirement for diff to be a POSIX "text file", so you still have arbitrary, and unknowably, large "lines"
asciilifeform: aha, asking for 'different solution' would be rather like asking for 'different pythagor's theorem'
phf: btw unified diff also follows the same format. you can use @@ ... @@ to know exactly when your hunk ends (see the vpatch code)
mircea_popescu: it is provably the only possible solution.
asciilifeform: phf: afaik it's the only solution.
phf: asciilifeform: well you followed an established tmsr solution to inbandism, state the counts before you present the count.
mircea_popescu: it's just... jesus christ i am at a loss to comprehend what the problems involved are. fuck me, i'm working on an ai sex bot to fetlife ? really ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: bet you the dood even read it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems to me a correctly designed and properly implemented version of trinque 's original doodle, which he summarily described as "bundle all files together and hash"
mircea_popescu: just... why the fuck! "i am an intelligent fellow. i have these dumbells on my feet ; and this loudspeaker screaming in my ears". dude...
asciilifeform: ( i would not even bother posting it, but it does cure inbandism, and afaik nobody else has proposed of a way to )
mircea_popescu: and so you check the dood's bio, and "I currently work at Ozlo, where were building an AI-powered digital assistant. Previously, I worked at Firebase, a scalable realtime application backend. Before that, I worked on a wide range of experimental projects to improve the web at Mozilla Labs."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile otherplaces, "shared libraries are obviously a good idea until youve actually used them. then whether its obvious or not that theyre a bad idea is mostly a matter of how close you are to trying to get them to work." such a great share that anant thing.
phf: mircea_popescu: we're on the same page
mircea_popescu: which is proper, the moving should be costly.
mircea_popescu: yes, the idea was to make a "reorg" patch separately if you're going to move files about.
asciilifeform: this scheme would however lock you into not ever both moving and modifying a given file, if you want the diff to be compact
mircea_popescu: file a/hurr/durr.txt hash aba1 matches file b/hurr/hurr.txt hash aba1, durr.txt was renamed as hurr.txt (renaming and moving are, like norton commander correctly identified, the SAME op. it's all a namechange.)
asciilifeform: in the actual vpatch format
asciilifeform: how would you represent the movement tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the logged discussion on the topic was, "if hashes match but paths do not, the file was moved ; if hashes match and paths match, the file is untouched ; if hashes do not match but paths match the file was modified ; if hashes do not match and paths do not match the file was created/deleted"
mircea_popescu: gns:mircea/writings/trilema/categories/ is just about the only way to corectly refer to the item.
mircea_popescu: myeah. the only problem is that i suspect the unix notion of filenames (if ~properly~ regarded, ie, full paths) is actually entirely correct, and how gns will have to work anyway.
asciilifeform: it would be correct also to say that dir2txt/txt2dir abstracts over the idea of unix filenames entirely.
mircea_popescu: "all files are identified by hashes of their (proper) name and content" and all that.
mircea_popescu: at which juncture i suppose it'd pay to check, huh. hey phf, my memory of logs discussion includes this item whereby the above problem was fully resolved by declaring the path as inseparable part of the filename. you on the same page ?
asciilifeform: it has also added seekrit bonus of making the patch format non-inbandistic.
asciilifeform: it's an alternative to the idjit unix multifile diff that doesn't let you move files without barfing megs of liquishit into the diff.
asciilifeform: it isn't an alternative, imho we really gotta have the chronicles.
mircea_popescu: this is where we admit that while the alternative solution presented passes on technical merits, nevertheless the thing it's an alternative to has much better political support. i ~want~ to require people to say a word about their patch, for human eyes.
asciilifeform: the #####...#### thing. it can contain literally anything, purely for ease of eyes.
mircea_popescu: (i get it, i get it, you use the republican-standard declare-size cut method. yes yes.)
asciilifeform: the algo is in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20180331/asciilifeform_crystals.vpatch , or i could summarize for the impatient
asciilifeform: nope. there is no inbandism, literally any combination of characters is legal in the single file.
mircea_popescu: basically you add all files into a temp together, space-separated ?
asciilifeform: each followed by exactly 1 hash ( or, in the case of genesis, 'false' . )
asciilifeform: every patch has exactly one --- and +++ : at the head.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, consolidates, rather than breaks up, but correct.
asciilifeform: lemme know if any part of it did not make sense, or if i laughably misunderstood the orig trinque-algo.
asciilifeform: ( tldr : it's a demo of a guaranteed-cure for the infamous ' moving mpi dir ' misery . )
asciilifeform: trinque, phf , other vtronicists : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000296.html
mircea_popescu: aaand in other "we used to think romanians are specifically retarded, but then the usians went and joined up!" sads, http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2011/08/08/referintele-ca-niste-punti-lipsa/
mircea_popescu: ah. so then get the whet back and see from there. maybe new vdiff is ready ; if not and you want to march you can apply spyked's patch on the extant codebase as published by phf, if i understand correctly that should fix your problem. the diffs you produce with the thing thereby compiled will work with later restared vdiff too.
hanbot: hey mircea_popescu: people are wanting to get an mp-wp --is my understanding of the situation correct, ie proablem i had with making vdiff --> proablem with v itself --> folks are reformulating these?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'on installment' << Rebound effect is normal only when you go beyond three applications. This is more spackiling over the acute phase.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> iirc that created the problem it cured ? << Well, temporarily aggrevated the problem it treats
trinque: just remove whatever your body didn't want there, and that's that
asciilifeform: verily, that's the nose spray where for every litre of snot you would have otherwise disgorged, instead there will be 2 to pay
mircea_popescu: iirc that created the problem it cured ?
BingoBoingo: And probably killed any ants lurking there too
BingoBoingo: Easily squeezed a couple ounces of fluid from my sinuses in the first few minutes pursuing nasal stability
BingoBoingo: In other news: Holy Shit! "D'Selby Gotas Nasales" are fast!
mircea_popescu: piddly $100k career take for "elite" representatives of the embattled government ? vulnerable as all hell.
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna move there, build a stronghold ?
mircea_popescu: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/06/us/baltimore-police-corruption.html << and in other news, turns out baltimore is becoming the first city liberated by republican militias from the terrorist self-appointed usg ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5351133/Eastern-Europeans-10-times-faster-farm-work-Brits.html << fucking hysterical. entirely useless precious cuntlets somehow stop short of wondering why the fuck their government has to import muslims by the million as the only people troglodyte enough to fuck their dumb cunts.
mircea_popescu: we just discussed this ; s.nsa is at the most selling one of the two spares. ill run the numbers later an' give you an aye or nay.
ben_vulpes: i'd also like to buy an option to buy the s.nsa spare if you're amenable
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how about 0.195 btc for the big box
mircea_popescu: anyway ; training the "woke" in any sort of skilled anything is seriously immoral. knowledge is not to be used for evil.
mircea_popescu: "3x as many male managers are now uncomfortable mentoring women in the wake of #MeToo. This is a huge step in the wrong direction. We need more" << roflmao.
mircea_popescu: the notion there exists a fiatola bitcoin price was due for a trashing anyway ; part and parcel of a collection of quaint nonsense like the flat earth on turtles and the predictive power of phrenology.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes shinohai got an identity crisis after finding out he's lagging behind, is either genuinely finding his way out or else sulking somewhere waiting for the usual disasters to befal.
asciilifeform: hey, 'if it contradicts the koran, it is heretical, if not -- superfluous' (tm)(r) or was that from the last go-around.
mircea_popescu: "Qaisar Mahmood, a Muslim born in Pakistan, is the new head of the Swedish National Heritage Board." He admits "he has not read anything about Swedens cultural heritage." << bwahahaha
mircea_popescu: i was younger then.
asciilifeform: i'll admit my 1st thought was '... novell ??!' but then looked at calendar..