ckang: mircea_popescu: yea this isnt the one im thinking of, it was some years back as well
mircea_popescu: ckang i don't get why they construct their communications in this nonsensical manner. i'm 20% in still haven't fished an inkling of sense.
BingoBoingo: Watch out for the mopeds
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On that note do you want me to meet you at the airport or how is this working?
mircea_popescu: omfg oglaf went behind the night curtain ;/
asciilifeform: iirc there are voodoo shops with 'dollar oil'.
mircea_popescu: "use cotton solvent and centrifugal separator to remove the rods from 100 dollar bills, then mix into plain nailpaint after having taken down the bill serials"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i want you to be prepared with laptop and camera to document the landing of this nut. it'll prolly be like the 1st coming of technojesus. << Puede ser
asciilifeform: ( for n00b readers -- folk recipe is traditional, dating to the dawn of cheap digital photo afaik, and certainly not asciilifeform's invention )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe the sluts lost interest. this is nail polish yes ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i want you to be prepared with laptop and camera to document the landing of this nut. it'll prolly be like the 1st coming of technojesus.
asciilifeform: ( what grade ? the kind with 'baccilae', i.e. visible multicoloured rods )
asciilifeform: in other noose, highest grade of anti-usg glittery polish, softbanned (absent from stores)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795655 << why aren;t you running the trinquebot ?
ckang: but i dont think this is the one im thinking of
mircea_popescu: ckang holy shit they put a pdf on a wordpress blog ?
mircea_popescu: everyone has to want another 6% lol. it's like wanting a new couch and curtains in the older "economic" model integrating the whitegoods.
ben_vulpes: shit i want another six percent too, who can i fire
ben_vulpes: clearly not enough of it if everyone wants another 6% this year
mircea_popescu: oh oh. afaik they do.
mircea_popescu: if the us could live by spending german coin it'd be like i could live by digesting my own poop.
ben_vulpes: ubi's the best horse in the state-bankrupting race atm; right up there with a brand new war
mircea_popescu: that's the elephant in the room : the only remaining valid export of the us is === what argentina exports. nobody cares for the farts, but they'll buy the soy.
mircea_popescu: ckang link, rather than offer, that way people might click.
ckang: theres a whitepaper
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am looking forward to sharing the mod_php numbers and comparing them against the nginx php-fpm numbers
ckang: with magento atleast, there are substantial improvements over apache/mod_php, fairly substantial too
mircea_popescu: nginx is not actually better for your usecase ; but worse. its notable strength sits with static content, where it actually outperforms apache. otherwise, it's generally not worth the time, even if some of the nuttier bored greybeards will set it up as a reverse proxy in lieu of a proper cache / buying more fucking machine to serve the static parts only.
mircea_popescu: ckang unrelated convo. there's a lot of subtext and whatnot going on in #trilema.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 15:40 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aok; i'm baffled as to why throwing a file to the running php process for evaluation would be so slow under apache but not nginx; but mod_php looks to be The Right Thing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795630 << the particular module you chose tears down and rebuilts the whole php interpreter on each call. it's ~exactly~ like rebooting your "virtual machine" after every bash line and wondering why is bash so slow.
douchebag: these guys stole his hexchat 0day
ben_vulpes: ah lobbes getting into the ol open source slap and tcl
lobbesbot: trinque: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/10/the-uraguayo-idea-of-cultural-sensitivity/ << Bingo Blog - The Uraguayo Idea Of Cultural Sensitivity
BingoBoingo: Give it time eventually any BTC will be enough btc when the rest of the world shits the bed
david_francois: david_francois: yeah, i got a new server with a SSD raid, I'm planning on getting a update TRB node there, which should be more reliable
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aok; i'm baffled as to why throwing a file to the running php process for evaluation would be so slow under apache but not nginx; but mod_php looks to be The Right Thing
BingoBoingo: david_francois: I noticed on of your trb nodes is perenially 100,000 blocks behind. Consider building a new bitcoind with either the asciilifeform or ben_vulpes aggression patches. Vastly improved sync behavior.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?! << It's one of those bot accounts. I don't do anything with the account. It is all bot.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795174 <-- I wrapped those into pre tags, but it seems they got parsed anyway. replacing all < with < and crossing my fingers; but if mp-wp has some other way of rendering math, lemme know.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile otherplaces, "Into pregnant chicks? You've come to the right place. I'm newly single and am ready to finally really try to explore the vast world of kink."
a111: Logged on 2017-07-02 12:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678460 << how about we roll the boot time ( to shell!! ) of your cmachinekernel, how about?
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's very likely the cause of your delay.
mircea_popescu: anyway, using fcgi is probably not ideal -- there's for instance a recurring 500 error / resource leak issue associated.
ckang: you need nginx+php-fpm to yield the true benefits
ben_vulpes: but allll of the time is in the fcgi connection looks like; which makes me wonder is it buffering the entire response before then handing it off to the client, and would that even slow things down?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for your peace of mind, it's definitely not apache itself. it serves trilema actually faster than nginx on internal testing, especially so under heavy load. (which there can mean > 100 req/s)
ben_vulpes: heh i worked in the belly of a magento thing that served in 2.3s and that was a victory
mircea_popescu: https://www.machmetrics.com/speed-blog/average-page-load-times-websites-2018/ << in other lulz. TEN SECONDS.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thanks for the pointer but none of that helped
ben_vulpes: nginx is screamingly fast out of the box for this type of setup, but does not support .htaccess files which the wordpress folks tell me are very important
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 19:33 mircea_popescu: anyway. in practice there's also nginx, which i doubt is any better ; and i don't foresee our writing of a web server right nao.
ben_vulpes: so here's a wonder: apache for some reason takes 2.2 seconds to serve an mp-wp file that nginx can cough up in ten ms; even though both are nominally passing the same files over to php fpm pools
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2018/03/29/announcing-the-newest-bitcoin-infrastructure-node-or-why-ethereum-is-so-utterly-fucked/ < in other news.
ckang: i knew another girl that was interested but she works and is in school
ckang: perfect in the sense if something handles it wrong you will know quickly
ckang: i have a the perfect ascii
TomServo: ckang: As lobbes hinted, Mystery Science Theater 3000. A commonly ripped off name, I've discovered. http://www.yuchtar.com/Tom.jpg
phf: i'm thinking i'll, if i want to do some leisure coding, extend it with a couple of language specific romanizations. russian's there, but chinese and arabic might be a good idea
phf: i think we had the jokes going here at some point, of embedding a complete "princess maker" as a concatenative unicode language
ckang: im feeling you there, got me yawning by saying that
ckang: haha, well, its more manageable with the right titration ;)
ckang: i suspect they might have just renamed it to 'electronic'
ckang: its going to bother me until I remember, I know that lol
ckang: mircea_popescu: yea she has free time during the day and is normally wondering somewhere around the internet, new to irc though
ckang: just do another transfer or void it?
mircea_popescu: ckang well, tell her the place's not going anywhere.
trinque: > SIGN OF THE HORNS
ckang: terminal is finally catching up, I can see them in Terminal.app, some but not the newest ones
trinque: holy shit phf, it's like google translate for the kids
ckang: like they have 6 different skintones
ckang: i never realized how many new ones they added
trinque: I"m projecting my own feelings into them
ckang: most clients dont render them right
sarah443: 🦄 Hey ckang was brushing my teeth about to turn in for the night. mircea_popescu great talking to you, I have more questions than answers now but it has me thinking about what I want to do a bit more 🌑
sarah443: Its going to be an interesting time ahead though, either way 🤘
sarah443: Potential is there to do great or horrible things
sarah443: Im really curious to see what comes out of the newly found crypto wealth kids
mircea_popescu: anyway, sure there may be one or two 16yo http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ 's out there. but there's well over 100k dweebs worth over 1mn in paper. out of the money they waste on rent you can buy a farm in the transvaal and enjoy free weekly gangbangs for the rest of your life.
sarah443: Yeah, some chemical confidence may help them too
sarah443: mircea_popescu: a lot of them, are hard to 'bond' with
mircea_popescu: the time for that is in divorce court.
mircea_popescu: the key elements are a) high net worth dweebs, not the sorta guys you meet at raves and b) utter abjection, none of that "i'm a person and i have rights" bullcrap.
sarah443: Guess im the idiot
mircea_popescu: sarah443 yes, but you did it stupidly. as marylin points out : it tastes the same when it comes out of a multi-mn cock.
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad plan, go to SF for a week, join all the events, from bdsm munches to apple hackathon day, and just doe eye one or two dweebs per. then suck cock like your life depends on it, and then get married.
mircea_popescu: you would be, yes. ever read the camwhore article ?
phf: sarah443: you haven't been in the valley have you
trinque: sarah443: you should just go strip in the valley, marry some startup cuck, end up with half his shares in nothing. ah nevermind.
lobbes: btw phf I'm digging the unicode hovers in btcbase
sarah443: Its incredible the range of answers I get on that ;)
sarah443: Gov loves the later, sometimes both
mircea_popescu: brings us right back to http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth/
sarah443: Yeah, crimes of this nature they want restitution not jail.
mircea_popescu: if they can steal it back however, you're fucked.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it all revolves on whether they can steal the money back or not. if they can't, they're on their knees begging. with some limited negotiation ability can get to keep a third or so and walk.
sarah443: I hate the site and interface though
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "This leaves the question who ha a motive very open." << This leaves the question of who had a motive very open.
mircea_popescu: holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?!
sarah443: The content I mean, its interesting
sarah443: I like the twitter feed
mircea_popescu: "i wish there were someone paying for what i want to do" is a terrible way to waste a life.
sarah443: The 0day market is very interesting too
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 16:38 asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make is that: i hypothesize that the '0day market' consists very largely of folks who are sitting on 0day and not 'marketing' at all
mircea_popescu: sarah443 that's unfortunate, very bright minds were on the record complainign there's no good market for sleuthing for fundamental reasons. like http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-13#1237185
mircea_popescu: there's a fundamental difference between "i am sarah and i have a kid to feed" and "i am sarah, and i can put your words before 1mn social media nobodies" or "i'm publish weekly in every porn mag there is" or whatever.
mircea_popescu: yes, but your problem is that if you don't build either your skill or your platform, you will get absolutely nowhere.
sarah443: They dont see the mainstream media or any other outlet so they would go undocumented otherwise
sarah443: I follow little niche stories and try to keep the respective communities up to date on the happenings.
mircea_popescu: but i do get court report summaries and all sorts of other things.
sarah443: Same, don't have cable anymore, got to the point where I didn't even use it.
sarah443: The police are a joke, if you have ever seen that show 'First 48'
mircea_popescu: eh. the quality of police work has so terribly degraded in the past half century, if anyone does ANY PLANNING AT ALL it's a murder that'll never get solved.
sarah443: Its almost like planning the perfect murder lol
mircea_popescu: spooked my foot, when we looked through the smoldering pile left after that idiot ross, it came to light ~nobody was using rsa.
sarah443: I folllow deepdotweb on twitter and they have some good articles sometimes
sarah443: Well, its more so the government cracking down and people get spooked I suppose
mircea_popescu: nobody's forcing anything anywhere ; the "darknet" bla bla is "being forced underground" in the exact sense the previous emo generation was "being forced into the closet".
sarah443: Some of the research they did on them was pretty interesting, like quality of drugs for example
lobbes: not much there, I reckon. usg honeypots
sarah443: Super interesting but its being forced further underground
sarah443: The entire darknet market thing was something I really wanted to delv into
sarah443: like Motherboard puts out some interesting reads sometimes
sarah443: Working with publishers, but I was thinking about maybe doing web editorials. I like the quick turn around time on that media and distribution
mircea_popescu: i'm an extremist after all. gotta keep up the standards.
mircea_popescu: but do you then have a journalistic platform, like, working relationships with many/most publishers ?
sarah443: In the political communities
sarah443: Well theres movements taking place that eventually will become bigger deals
mircea_popescu: sure, arcana is the noun of arcane.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you don't understand computers, how would you "be there" "before anything happens" ?
sarah443: But I don't want to just look over past things and try to figure things out, I want to be there before anything happens
sarah443: The social justice hackers, that was a bad example
mircea_popescu: this is a very... perception-driven approach to the events.
sarah443: Remember back during the anon/lulzsec days?
sarah443: mircea_popescu: It depends on the attack
mircea_popescu: sarah443 ok, and it's a living, tenuous and marginal as it may be, buy shit in china resell it in the states. but how's this relate to website defacing ?
ckang: the good mfgs will use D2 steel and such
mircea_popescu: they improved significantly.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 18:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally : the pineapple hacking device is this chinese blade i bought on a lark. turns out it's the best steel i own / have seen in a long while.
sarah443: I want to be in these groups, not as law enforcement.
mircea_popescu: ckang structure determines content and all that. once you try to go in the "i can't believe" bla bla format, you'll be producing the repsective content.
ckang: ive only seen a few eps though, not sure how they actually do it
ckang: since it seems like they sorta bait people
ckang: yea the child predator stuff is kind of odd IMO
sarah443: ckang is always finding some nasty snuff sites and linking them
mircea_popescu: ckang the republic's always looking for folk that aren't out and out imbeciles.
ckang: I kind of wanted to do investigative stuff online, like the catch a predator style shows.
sarah443: When you have to keep a baby fed and the lights on, it limits things a bit.
sarah443: But I love him and he would be in daycare otherwise
mircea_popescu: so what do you do other than writing on your chest, sarah443 ?
phf: the infamous spitoon
mircea_popescu: trilema does this for footnotes by setting the "title" attribute on a tag, but i imagine same can be done with a div ?
mircea_popescu: phf here's a perhaps useful summa of all this : add the name as a tooltip ? so if i hover it shows it, and if it's useless well, so be it.
mircea_popescu: and spend the rest of your life dealing with obscure samsung driver errors.
phf: i like the subgroup animal reptile, "turtle, snake, dragon, t-rex"
phf: swahili is out, it's wakandan these days
mircea_popescu: uifefe, plain enough. what is the problem you encounter ?
phf: jeez i don't even know how to work with this soup in sbcl, that woman judge entry translates to, i shit you not, the following sequence of sbcl character names: ("WOMAN" "U1F3FE" "ZERO_WIDTH_JOINER" "SCALES" "VARIATION_SELECTOR-16")
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is the "queer" modifier anyway. you can say "nigger washingmachine judge" but you can't say "faggot judge" ? what's this, fellow traveller disenfranchisement ?
mircea_popescu: phf could we maintain explicit lists of permitted unicrap, such as arabic and chinese ? and rape the rest ?
mircea_popescu: look at this shit, they have "skin tones" https://emojipedia.org/thumbs-up-sign-type-5/ futa-i dumniezo sa-i futa.
phf: mircea_popescu: i believe the only way to identify unicode barf is by maintaining or downloading explicit lists. we have legitimate unicode barf, so blanket replacement isn't going to work
mircea_popescu: it's nice and good, if it's pleasurable, or needful. but if it's neither don't drive yourself batty out of sheer masochism.
mod6: alright, i have a drive to get to the bottom of things. will back off.
mod6: lol, well i don't wanna have to fuck with it. and it's not exactly fun. but i really can't stop either.
mircea_popescu: phf any chance logotron might replace unicode barf with the "unicode name" ?
mircea_popescu: sarah443 you here to show us your tits then ?
ckang: mircea_popescu: ah thought that was the case, has it been voided or do I need to do anything on my end?
sarah443: OK im registered, do I need to do something to get the #?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795176 << is trisha the lawyer spawn chick then ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:26 mod6: ok the damn file names are so similar im getting confused.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795170 << this is actually a respectable protest. this would be a fine place for name space sorting, call the damn thing sha_y and keccak_x or somethign, rather than mix-and-mishmash.
ckang: you can go ahead and register ill pm you the instructions
ckang: mircea_popescu is the man you need to talk to
mircea_popescu: anyway, to answer your question : i wanted to ask you to make a "federated social media" server to pump out the #trilema log anyway. if you're making it you can consider the 2 bitcents an advance.
ckang: ohh the api, yea I couldnt quite figure out what it does outright
ckang: I may have another girl if you are still accepting submissions
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AVFdI/?raw=true << ok that works. but my vtron chokes on this patch set -- mis-orders the press path, for some reason I still don't understand yet.
mod6: ok the damn file names are so similar im getting confused.
phf: then instead of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc you should be applying vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc
mod6: phf: i patched by hand in the order shown on the right path of your graph: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3ujyM/?raw=true
phf: mod6: the graph on btcbase vtools is the only way it can possibly press. either the left branch or the right branch. changing the order, or introducing the patches from left into right, or right into left is going to break manifest.
spyked: mircea_popescu, crap, apologies for the mess on trilema, I have no idea why it gets cut off. I'll try to repost the comment tomorrow
mod6: what i'm trying to get at is, if I follow the patch order in here (the first pp command), it is incorrect, for some reason: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wIaed/?raw=true
phf: mod6: the graph is correct. you have a patch chain A B C D E, you're trying to apply A B E. E is going to fail because you didn't apply C D
mod6: i've put in a little fix for my 'check_ante' subroutine, but by what you're saying, this isn't correct then either (for press-path):
asciilifeform: then why does mod6's vtron barf
asciilifeform confesses to not yet grasping the mechanics of this
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-09#1795123 << you can't press vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc on top of vtools_vdiff_sha, because there's a bunch of patches in between. manifest is getting rejected, because manifest specifically enforces order. if you try pressing them in order, i.e. the left column from genesis http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools it will work
ckanggirl: mircea_popescu: i have to run out for a bit, thanks for the chat and ill see whats involved in getting my passport renewed if you are serious :O
mod6: anyway, my apologies for the interruption. please continue.
mod6: i believe that I am patching in the correct order. not only validated by the link to btcbase.org/patches above, but also the same press path is given from my v.
mod6: heheh, sorry for the double post. This tho ^
mod6: Then I went ahead and tried to manually patch these files together, first 'vtools_genesis.vpatch', then 'vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch', then 'vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc', and this is what I'm seeing:
mod6: Then I went ahead and tried to manually patch these files together, first 'vtools_genesis.vpatch', then 'vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch', then 'vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc', and this is what I'm seeing:
mod6: Well, I've implemented a better check there in the 'ante_check' subroutine. And I was gonna mess with it a bit more, but when I went to press the shorter of the two paths (visible at http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools ), I ran into a press problem.
ckanggirl: yea it just fell out of the news one day, not heard about it since
ckanggirl: full circle, as they say
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/#selection-1181.0-1181.161
ckanggirl: i remember the whole butt sharpie phase
douchebag: must have been an awfully big sharpie if they're still butthurt
ckanggirl: i bet that 'yhbt' felt good in the end
mircea_popescu: it was all an elaborate in-joke, there was this pantsuit collective (something awful) calling it "buttcoin"
ckanggirl: i suppose areas of interest kind of dictate the little 'cliques'
ckanggirl: yea douchebag is around some of the same places, seems like a good guy
mircea_popescu: amusingly, a guy named douchebag is like, one of the most noob-helping guys around! misleading name!
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's one of those few things where nothing beats being there.
mircea_popescu: you know i actually had them in my hands! they're the cutest thing, sorta lift head to see where water is, then lower it again and push push push. evidently hard work.
ckanggirl: i cant stop looking at the little turtles
mircea_popescu: yeah, not a good look, the boyish beard.
mircea_popescu: anyway, eclectic is an english calc of the greek word for "choosing". it's a selection of the best of everything.