asciilifeform: i'll add that ~all the gear we installed, is of roughly similar vintage.
asciilifeform: in theory yes. in practice i have yet to see certain items age detectably. my cockpit cpus for instance, will soon score 10yr of uptime
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1804101 << they have some shiny gear there ; how long it stays great is to be established, but it starts in a spanking place.
mircea_popescu: you'd have expected the "experts" to have invented one by now.
mircea_popescu: you were complaining ows was about as productive as ethereum... well...
mircea_popescu: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/rolling-jubilee-wolf-sheeps-clothing.html << and here's pansuitism mouthpiece bemoaning how group of swindlers are not so interested in the "staying within the system" of occupy-wallstreet nonsense.
ben_vulpes: does anyone remember a scifi story about a dark horse us presidental candidate that wins a landslide on individually-targeted email/sms/phone outreach in the last month of the campaign?
asciilifeform: speaking of these, in BingoBoingostan i saw for 1st time in public ( tho i knew of their existence) those oddball diode bulbs made to look ~exactly like edisonian ones
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 20:30 lobbes: In other lulz, D.C. pantsuits trying to extend illusion of franchise to 16 year olds >> https://archive.is/y84nX
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1804068 << there was this pretty bad pantsuit cult movie, about some rock band that becomes politically involved by lowering the vote age.
mircea_popescu: which aren't small bombs ; but how they say lightbulbs.
mircea_popescu: then of course groundskeeper wanted to talk to me about bombillas
asciilifeform: ( what do you call in eng , the iron part of grenade ? )
asciilifeform: just hisses, pops, breaks the 'turtle'
mircea_popescu: and then WTF CONVENIENCE STORE GRENADES ?!?!
mircea_popescu: sooo, the car went by a large sign, "grandes descuentos", which my head perceived as "discouns on grenades" and i was wtf, who discounts grenades.
trinque: I hear somebody's selling shell accounts that'd be just the place
ben_vulpes: pinochle: you'll want to get a bouncer so that you're not joining and parting all of the time
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
ckang: yea i wouldnt go out of my way to listen or anything, just goes over the cuck/captagon stuff mostly
ckang: asciilifeform: the clip you asked for
ckang: mother was with her ya
douchebag: that was Mother right?
phf: i can also search from:phf to see any messages left my way, but highlight is more convenient if i'm just reading through the log.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 19:12 mircea_popescu: i do about the same thing, i'm grayed out.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803946 << that's a good idea, there are different use cases though. i speak much less, so i use the yellow islands to know where i participated in the conversation, this way i know i don't have to reread that whole cluster. it highlights both from:phf and "phf", so i can also say where i was mentioned since the last time i spoke
ckang: found the audio, extracting it now
trinque: pantsuit pulling out the stops eh? children voting, black reparations, legal weed. I'm sure trump voters will defect in droves for such a platform
ben_vulpes: so now they'll be able to vote and not be drafted *or* drink
lobbes: In other lulz, D.C. pantsuits trying to extend illusion of franchise to 16 year olds >> https://archive.is/y84nX
asciilifeform: trinque got a more barbaric emplacement, he has no slack space in his chassis, his ended up in the pci slots
ckang: ill get the clip for yall though, its an interesting listen regardless
mircea_popescu: if he was so fucking bad, where was she/he/whatever AT THE TIME ?
mircea_popescu: but let's just point out that ANY post factum "testimonials" by gf/bf/whatever, whether they be "i thought about it some more and i decided it was rape" or "i will now call the guy a badman retroactively" and so on aren\'t worthj the pixels they're printed on.
mircea_popescu: ckang, honestly can't distinguish that from http://trilema.com/2012/assault-and-consent-in-the-bdsm-community-sau-cum-s-ar-zice-pe-romaneste-viol-si-pace-ma-rog-aproximativ-vorbind/ or http://trilema.com/2015/the-four-points-of-this-morning-in-color-any-questions/#selection-219.0-221.37 or any other example of "ex-gf" bs.
ckang: cell2poin is sarah, the ex-gf
asciilifeform: dulap II rather
mircea_popescu: a ok then!
mircea_popescu: ly to be valuable to them as "shoving fingers in guy's assohle" ; while 2. ex-gfs will say anything.
mircea_popescu: ckang, let me unwrap the challenge here further, for the record. so, the claim "he would let you stick 4 fingers in his ass for a dose" made by ex-gf is being challenged on credibility grounds through this following two pronged approach : 1. it is seemingly unlikely any of the poor who actually hold physical $item in discussion would nevertheless be subjectively rich enough to trade it away, especially for something as unlike
mircea_popescu: who [among the set of people who do weird 2010-kiddo pills] would want to [trade some of this apparently valuable crap] for sticking fingers up some ugly fat dood's asshole.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: synthetic opium, popular in modern northameristan; lethal dose is iirc within 10% of ordinary dose
mircea_popescu: (it's not related, fentanyl is opio- this is meth-. i justwent for the pun, see. anal-ine ? )
ckang: its a stim the soldiers smoke
ben_vulpes: had fentanyl one time, would recommend it in case anyone has large amounts of skin abraded off and needs the pain muted for a few hours of wambulance trip
ckang: yea theres so much about him that doesn't coincide with his 'beliefs'
ckang: asciilifeform: yea, she said he would watch her get fucked by the neighbor boy
ckang: weev is an actual cuck btw, the true definition
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/#comment-99073 << lol ancient lulz. "Weev and his lawyers can appeal until their faces turn blue, they will get nowhere. " from the quora "experts"
trinque: course he does; he's the white girl sucking black dick
asciilifeform: just take care to burn them archives, lol
asciilifeform: eh, descent, whothefuck cares, it didn't hard herr schicklegruber's work
mircea_popescu: ckang, hover over name, it shows the timestamp
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you recall this ? was it not in the chan ?
mircea_popescu: hmm, there was an earlier episode with some sort of "publishing dirt on usg corps and shorting with crypto" unacknowledged F.DERPs rehash.
asciilifeform: trinque: and getting booted from heathen.dns, lol
trinque: dude's perfectly happy in the world he inhabits, playing shock jockey and "building his brand"
asciilifeform: the 'nazi' d00d is also nowhere to be found; ditto
asciilifeform: d00d's an unrepentant heathen iirc.
mircea_popescu: ftr, i'm not amenable to hosting the asshole. he had plenty of time to register before needing.
asciilifeform: and , meanwhile, speaking of heathens reaping the fruits of heathen isps, cryptome loox finally dead.
mircea_popescu: i do about the same thing, i'm grayed out.
phf: i normally read btcbase with nick=phf, but it's not been "announced" because back&forward arrows don't preserve the parameters, something i've been meaning to add for a while now
phf: i need to document all the different hidden features, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/?nick=mircea&inline=true
mircea_popescu: phf, possibly add a line somewhere in there, maybe as a tooltip ? so i don't ping you again in six months lol
ckang: have 2x 1u a 2u and the 4
phf: but right now it's very easy to add foo:... clause. the complete set of these is from:, notfrom:, refs: (specific number of references that the post has), and not:
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there's like 500 pics, these are the ones people iirc specifically asked for
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i don't get it, why is there a girl's leg under the email box, are they trying to say they've got sluts or what
phf: mircea_popescu: notfrom, and it's not proper grammar. the whole thing is an AND, and the foo:... commands are constraints. so not is more properly should be called something like "filter:"
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-20 17:14 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, anyway, in particular the veblen goods of "subscribe to information" is one of the lulziest applications of the whole new-world-protestants-in-skinner-box lulz.
hanbot: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-20#341046 << this seemed a particularly choice bit of variety speak, if for correctness of fit rather than arcaneness.
ben_vulpes: i love acrop, it's entirely out of my orbits these days though
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900000059/from-mormon-kid-to-alleged-drug-kingpin-inside-the-rise-and-fall-of-aaron-shamo.html
mircea_popescu: phf, what other predicates, not and thassit ?
ben_vulpes: ckang: well did you click the link though
BingoBoingo: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A3ie0/?raw=true << The end of that convo >> "1:18 PM <ggg> shit, this hobo costs me more than a gf"
ben_vulpes: actually i know just the place
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'll email the fella; dinner on you?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what, bike around in circles looking for the fella?
BingoBoingo: ckang: Your santanic pastatron offers: " IRCCloud snippets require JavaScript to be displayed. Try viewing the raw version instead. "
trinque: ey ben_vulpes apparently terry davis is wandering the streets of portland.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, earlier, i put a slab of frozen mango jam with some ground ice and a frozen banana in the blender. the resulting slush was duly dolloped in expectant cups. we moved to the balcony and for a little all could be heard was spoons scraping on cup, but then "how long since you showered ?" "umm... yesterday ?" *splat*
asciilifeform: if anyone needs the kvm, plz page BingoBoingo to plug it in, and asciilifeform to show how to connect to it
asciilifeform: also obtained and set up a 2nd GB switch in rack; and a 220v mains distributor; and a ip kvm ( which annoyingly requires... java on the remote control end, but 'with torch in daylight' to this very day i cannot find ANY ipkvm that does not commit this type of warcrime )
asciilifeform: i'ma do a proper photoreportage re the expedition , but summary is : 100% of iron delivered in working order
asciilifeform: i delegated the handing-out of box keys to ben_vulpes , he wanted to keep track of ips/people
asciilifeform: speaking of which, douchebag , mod6 , ( others ? ) did ben_vulpes give you working keys yet ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in monkeystan, can't even be had for money, i expect. not without commissioning d00ds with suitcases << THe pizarro rack is already likely the hightest concentration of RAM in this orcistan
ckang: asciilifeform: what did yo end up with for the BMS?
BingoBoingo: In other news, asciilifeform left me here with an ice cream habit. I not thought to invesitgate the local ice cream scene in depth until mircea_popescu mentioned it is the necessary accompaniment to long walks. Last night I consumed 1/4 kilo of bananasplit.
asciilifeform: and turns out not simply pretentious rubbish, they have useful knobs ( to gauge decay , overvoltage, line noise, etc )
asciilifeform: after yrs of grunting with handmade ups, i found the magic pill -- surplus industrial ones
asciilifeform: ( you're prolly thinking of the seebek generator with kerosene wick from 1950s )
mircea_popescu: anyway. at least here the 500 could be had for under 10k. which is VERY reasonable considering what "professional" solutions cost ; and how their performance stacks up.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it wasn't 'some contacts', seebek-style bimetallic generator is terrible ; typically they had peltier pile
ckang: i think for most of my stuff, i would like a staged UPS that could power off the least important stuff first (tied to mains, monitors, speakers) then allow enough time for shutdown of other things (possibly using shunts to measure load) and let maybe 1 server stay up and networking gear
mircea_popescu: quite. up on this hill, with the winds...
asciilifeform: storage for 500 old batteries ( esp of the normal truck type, that vents H2 ) ain't free
mircea_popescu: ckang, "rtg" is how soviets used to power their satellites. put a chunk of cesium or plutonium next to some electric contacts.
mircea_popescu: takes a while to eat that much ; but yes, if your power outages are days rather than hours, this needs a generator system associated.
mircea_popescu: the numbers are worth the mention : if you get 500 old truck/high power car batteries, literally, and you put them in 4 lines (gets about 49 - 50V or so), you now have somewhere in the range of 500 * AT LEAST 50 Ah in your hands. that's 25 KWh for the more common measure.
BingoBoingo: ckang: You could always get your own turbine and go off the grid if you prefer something different. Turbine isn't picky about fuels.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you don't deepcycle it. that's why you pile a lot of them.
BingoBoingo: ckang: Things like http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/radioactive-waste-and-spent-nuclear-fuel/2003-11-two-strontium-powered-lighthouses-vandalised-on-the-kola-peninsula
BingoBoingo: ckang: You take a source of radioactive decay and hook a thermocouple up to it. Smoke detector means you harvest the emiters from the smoke detectors for your decay source.
BingoBoingo: ckang: If your wattage needs aren't incredible you could always go the smoke detector RTG route
mircea_popescu: they generally can be found very cheap, with a lot of life left in them (that it useful to you, in a 500 item arrangement, but not to the single-item cars)
ckang: yea 48 is the only thing i could think of close
asciilifeform finally swapped the ups batteries
mircea_popescu: that they're the sort of fucktard who WASNT CULLED, yes ? they "stuck with him", yes ?
mircea_popescu: what he does is observe that out of his 10mn or w/e list, 9.999 million were culled off in t1. fine. WHATEVER!!!. there's still 10`000 left yes ? what do we know about them ?
mircea_popescu: finally coming out of the massive bender at t2, the dude WOULD STILL LIKE TO EAT. how would you eat if you were him ? would you give up, do something else with your time ? he doesn't give up. he's fucking dedicated.
mircea_popescu: then at t1 the item went through some phenomena that'd have repelled all thinking individuals.
mircea_popescu: also, to belabour the point : anyone who thinks "oh, that guy, really, cure hiv and diabethes ? he must have lost it". NO HE DID NOT ; you understood nothing of the logreading you did so far! think about it : this dood had built self "a brand", ie, there were however many useless muppets who knew who he was / kept track / had him in their rss feed / he had them in his mailing list. this was t0.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wasn't that bugpowder ? << It was herbi, bugpowder was gone by then. unless herbi was a tulpa of bugpowder
mircea_popescu: build an ideal social system, lose language. or rather -- language dragontails the shit out of your nonsense.
mircea_popescu: then they're stuck communicating what should have been fucking communicated by the workings of money in the economy through other channels. "backpage is color sextraficking and that "very exciting genetic blabla" company is color doubleplusungood and so fucking on. there's no more useless, stupid and soon to be bankrupt, because http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/
mircea_popescu: the inescapable fact that in the bubble of insanity resting atop fed's imaginary money a company that spends a trillion to make a trillion is in fact an EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD investment (and google is NOTHING ELSE than this, to be clear, nor are any of the rest of them) will result in the necessary evolution where "here, i've made an imaginary company that trades a trillion with "real people". problem ?
mircea_popescu: and it was, too, for a few years before the dood cracked and went on the pipe it was hot stuff.
mircea_popescu: basically it's an extension of the groupon scam (hey, anyone "excited" by the "perspectives" of usg's "business" and "entrepreneuriat" ever think of groupon anymore ? that whole hype bubble of "global warming" / "ozon depletion" whatever popped and... ??? )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 02:39 mircea_popescu: understand how the empire of idiots' euphemism threadmill works : they noticed that you go by the heuristic of "published holes", and they've adapted to that (because that's what the idiots are all about, "Exam taking", ie optimizing for the measurement not for the variable measured). so, they keep publishing strainers and calanders, except the sort where YOU don't know the holes. it gives you the warm fuzzy feeling that "The
mircea_popescu: and the company shows a great balance sheet, also! a trillion in sales!!! fastest growing (see ? FASTEST GROWING ? yes ? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803460 ?) company online! "makes" very close to what it "spends"! GREAT INVESTMENT!
mircea_popescu: by this strike of genius, you can now be left with the impression that you're in business, selling things. to yourself -- which is the fucking point, all the imperial scams work by your selling things to yourself, from facebook to "rule of law".
mircea_popescu: he gave 100% rebates. sell $5000 "worth of" imaginary (but "very valuable") "products" of an absent "industry", get $5000 of the sale back as commission!
mircea_popescu: so check out this dood's idea : he figured out (correctly) that the mistake every other utahian/scammer in the mlm / online sales&marketing field makes is, chiseling the pennies. this prevents their growth. so instead of forcing people to buy $50 worth of thin air and keeping 35 out of it, to be distributed in astonishingly pained and complicated ways,
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 06:01 mircea_popescu: and in case anyone is missing the usagi era of bitcoin, it didn't end, it just moved on : http://behindmlm.com/companies/empower-network/david-wood-claims-he-can-heal-cancer-herpes-hiv-aids-diabetes/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792243 <<< theere we go. david wood, empower network.
mircea_popescu: i recently mentioned some schmuck that had broken new ground in the field, before turning to dope and there was some stuff with kids and brothers and the usual redneckisms.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, anyway, in particular the veblen goods of "subscribe to information" is one of the lulziest applications of the whole new-world-protestants-in-skinner-box lulz.
ben_vulpes: as i understand the story it was more of a craigslist, organically grown to profitability on very few staff and run in steady state for years
mircea_popescu: sv item, it hoped to bambozle "investors". without note from stalin affirming their correct rosy color of bits, there's no free fed money.
mircea_popescu: either because of that, or because no real money into it.
ben_vulpes: online personals site got taken down couple weeks back for facilitating child sex slavery and tax evasion and the usual list of pantsuit crimes du jour
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the who ?
ben_vulpes: also hey, we've got a datacenter, who's going to write the backpage replacement
mircea_popescu: the empire may not be much for anything, but THIS, "how to fuck your own kids", jesus christ this they got down to a fine art.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact it's a thing to admire and wonder at, the incredibly refined fucktools these people built.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 05:05 mircea_popescu: the "5k user discord server" is not substantially different from a piece of paper on which you wrote the number 5 followed by the letter k, or for that matter paul graham's yahoo scam ( http://trilema.com/2015/investigations-in-the-bone-heap-of-the-lost-generation-today-mashable/#footnote_6_59020 / http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/#selection-117.0-117.539 ).
ben_vulpes: ohoh also you can subscribe to "trading signals" for x bucks per month (starts at free, goes clear up to the hundreds) and plug them into the bots
ben_vulpes: well etoro in the abstract, they have their own hilarious marketplace of preprogrammed bots
mircea_popescu: and the lulzuy thing is, ETORO DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS.
mircea_popescu: dude succeeds at feeling like a trade bot programmer. the reset is integral.
mircea_popescu: how's that bit from psychology of bagholder, "succeeds at feeling like a trader, whioch was the point" ?
ben_vulpes: " button because "i didn't get it right before, i'll make money this time", and also i shit thee not a panic sell-everything button
mircea_popescu: though act 2 interule is probably the best part.
mircea_popescu: diablo is, of course, "the gates of asheron..."
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing this : there's also FOR THE CLANS!!! from "disciples", an ancient but really great game ; and WANT SOME, GET SOME! from a very popular set of browser tower defenses.
ben_vulpes: i also lost interest because its not a text interface to eulora so why bother kill yourself instead
mircea_popescu: baldur's gate. the little crazed dwarf.
mircea_popescu: (it's DEATH COMES FOR YOU ALL!!! in the original)
mircea_popescu: you might be right, my memory's fuzzing out at the edges.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: didn't he lose the market-making game against BingoBoingo ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, you might be thinking of yet another one ?
a111: Logged on 2016-03-28 13:11 mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on the contrary, i view further involvement with the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable thing to do altogether.
mircea_popescu: there's two day ones : there's day one of #trilema... un check it out, dragon went away huh ?precipitated by http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-28#1440673 ; then there's the day 1 of #bitcoin-assets, http://btcbase.org/log/2012-04-15 (precipitated by http://trilema.com/2014/a-little-bit-of-bitcoin-history/ ). it was #bitcoin-otc before that, but by now we're going way too far into the embryonic life of a yet entirely undistinguis
pinochle: BingoBoingo: other history: in the past I was a trader, predominantly futures. studied probability, my work now mainly consists of constructing prediction models
ckang: the start
ben_vulpes: pinochle: reg a key and build a name now, lest you build the thing and nobody uses it because who is this person
ckang: short of manually iterating through the dates
pinochle: just a reader of the logs to this point
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu douchebag http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fgc0N/?raw=true holy crap so sorry about that, lost track of needing to actually send creds in the shuffle yesterday
mircea_popescu: as in the above thing. a spot of experience.
mircea_popescu: ckang, well, i kinda like to leverage spot experience into more general theory. let's say it's a weakness of mine.
ckang: im just grateful for the opportunity, any income is income when between work
mircea_popescu: you understand that the difference between the ill-pay-for-your-tits value-evaluation-function over this field of items and the anything-else value-evaluation-function over the same field isn't 10x or 100x, either. people routinely have trouble extracting as much as a cent per thousand ; that'd be 10e6x
mircea_popescu: it's funny how usg history repeats itself : the elite uses the mass to rape the middle class. guy with a little dough and a little brain gets eaten into this "pay the brahmin to use the cattle herd" scheme again and again and again.
mircea_popescu: the "5k user discord server" is not substantially different from a piece of paper on which you wrote the number 5 followed by the letter k, or for that matter paul graham's yahoo scam ( http://trilema.com/2015/investigations-in-the-bone-heap-of-the-lost-generation-today-mashable/#footnote_6_59020 / http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/#selection-117.0-117.539 ).
mircea_popescu: douchebag, you're not proposing anyone else anywhere else can extract anything like that sort of utility out of the shitpile are you ?
mircea_popescu: now we understand why the discord meme. i imagine it's pretty good money selling "5k imaginary users" to you ppl.
douchebag: a channel in their discord server
douchebag: $200 for the pimp lady to get a 3 girls
mircea_popescu recalls the lulzy days of "market price" back when i was buying them at 2.20 - 2.50 dollars a pop
douchebag: mircea_popescu: so me and ckang don't get any reward for the effort though ?
mircea_popescu: douchebag, im lazy, there's a whole chunk here that i've not yet ul'd
douchebag: there's 23 girls listed on "ill pay for your tits" that I pulled in
douchebag: just showing on the "ill pay for your tits site thing"
douchebag: lol ckang think of how many tits the two of us brought in lol
mircea_popescu: well, you could read the log.
ckang: i was talking to another who wanted to do it
mircea_popescu: tell the story to your daughters and granddaughters, so they may know that playing-it-safe and waiting-to-see is not the way to live in this world.
mircea_popescu: and with this, ladies and gents, the FOUR YEAR tits for bits hole closes.
trinque: heh, got an alpha in there
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 14:31 mircea_popescu: a right. hanbot do me a favour : download ~only~ those patches which are in the leftmost trunk seen on phf's viewer (so exclude vtools_vdiff_sha, and its dependents) and try to flow again ?
phf: trinque: it wouldn't, i believe there's an antecedent->dependency transformation issues (i.e. the transform in mod6 v is adhoc, so it can't handle the tricky antecedent graph). the approach hanbot used was to just use the patches from the left branch of the graph, until, per mircea_popescu's request, i write a general purpose v graph code.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 04:25 hanbot: phf et al: attempted to press latest vtools to the keccak head. v (mod6's) reports vtools_vpatch_newline not in flow, neither its antecedent vtools_fixes_static_tohex, despite both patches and (verified good) sigs present (they neither show up via flow command). v will press to vtools_vpatch.vpatch, but no further. see http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oNRhE/?raw=true .
trinque: only thing I do to modify V is make the seals dir not dotted.
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LlO7Z/?raw=true << doesn't seem like it's flowing the whole way down one branch, unless I've got tired eyes over here
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 18:29 mircea_popescu: and it all came from original idiocy, "oh, to have bash AT ALL you must have access to /sbin/bash or else a copy of it somewhere". bullcrap. look at what apache does -- somehow it DOES manage to run all users' php crapolade from whatever directories. bash can (and obviously should fucking have) worked the exact same way. of course you can run bash from your homedir even if that is /home/users/f/u/c//k/t/h/i/s/l/u/s/e/r/john.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Safe to say this is the oldest participant in the "i will pay for your tits" campaign
Starrrcx: i hear the price on it went crazy high since it was started
mircea_popescu: think about it -- the sort of people who'd publish idiotic crap a la tor docker etc LIKE the meat injection. and the sort of people who'd protest don't get involved with that.
mircea_popescu: contrary to what you might think, it's 9x% the function of nsa, trolling on github all day.
mircea_popescu: and also they need a certain sort of fucktard mindset. like this : http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker/
ckang: has there been any documented cases of such happening recently? or attempts
ckang: i imagine to infiltrate a project successfully they need to 'invest' into it before it becomes too large so theres not 1000s of nerds reviewing commits
mircea_popescu: now, of course they've been pretending like "it never happened" for five years now ; but then again they're also pretending to be solvent, and militarily relevant, and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ << this is the historical moment when the usg's "technology" machine got killed.
mircea_popescu: the sad story of tor is a good primer in this sense.
mircea_popescu: usg trying to leverage the fact that idiots stick together whereas intelligent people jwz, into this situation where they keep shitting turds larger than what you can fit in head and so "one man's guess is as good as any other's" and "we don't actually know it's a scam" hurr durr.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 16:05 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: i take it now that mostly you're skeptical because the nsa was pushing ecc in the early years, before everyone else woke up to it
mircea_popescu: this is precisely the "crypto progress" of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800039 ; and everything else.
mircea_popescu: y're reasonablyt safe, as far as we know" ; and as we learn better... they just come up with a new piece of shit.
mircea_popescu: understand how the empire of idiots' euphemism threadmill works : they noticed that you go by the heuristic of "published holes", and they've adapted to that (because that's what the idiots are all about, "Exam taking", ie optimizing for the measurement not for the variable measured). so, they keep publishing strainers and calanders, except the sort where YOU don't know the holes. it gives you the warm fuzzy feeling that "The
mircea_popescu: so in what sense "has it been solid" then ?
mircea_popescu: yes the source.
ckang: the source? or what aspect
ckang: and being able to control the network gives way more flexibility in limiting what someone can/cant do
mircea_popescu: yeah. the whole stygian stable has to be cleanned out. no more PATH and no more bash-style calls. apache style calls.
mircea_popescu: metaphorically speaking, the solution to spilling some food in front of the fridge is not to attach a mechanical broom to it.
mircea_popescu: depends how you count the hit. complexity hit is significant.
ckang: re: chroot/$PATH stuff, is there any reason not to opt for a container model and leave that abstraction up to a dedicated system?
ckang: mircea_popescu: yea, i found the !!pay but !!ledger shows nothing
ckang: i think it may have been when the code registration issue was happening
ckang: if you get a min, had an issue with the bots on 1 girl, pheeby
ckang: even more so after the recent changes in gov policy in regards to information harvesting by ISPs
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 17:11 ckang: what have you managed to push encrypted on the board?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-19#1803375 << i have ipsec subnets to essentially identical openbsd installs, but egress is to wan. i use pf to route specific things through the ipsec subnets. i've never benchmarked it though. it's good enough to watch an occasional regioned youtube, or pull a torrent at 5mbit saturation
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mircea_popescu: i must now retire and meditate in sadness over the miserable fate fate had in store for me this morn.
mircea_popescu: so i pick the yesterday's chicken pilaf, and dump on it three spooning heapfuls of the mango-raisin-ginger jam in the half gallon jar. then a spoonlet of chilera. and then... a small and kinda tired&old but very ripe aguacate.
mircea_popescu: to eat, to eat, but what to eat! there's no fire going happily in the hearth, there's no water splashing on nude thighs unintentionally and aggravatingly, the kitchen's dead and i must have leftovers!
mircea_popescu: bereft of female support, i woke this morning among empty vast halls, ruin already gnawing silently in their corners.