mircea_popescu: nice then huh
mod6: The weather has finally turned here! A few nice spring days we've had, after 6 months of winter.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf defaults they use.
mircea_popescu: just about. you should be able to use the old reference style though, http://ip/~username/
diana_coman: so basically now I can plonk all my stuff in there and ...wait
mircea_popescu: they still have to create a zone for you.
mircea_popescu: last time the process resembled pulling teeth, eventually ended up using qntra's ns.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, this usually goes the other way around : he tells you a ns, and i set the domain to point to it.
diana_coman: or uhm, ben_vulpes what's the link at which *my stuff* is served?
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, I don't need the wp stuff; what do I need to do to nuke it ?
mircea_popescu: this is what i fucking wanted from the get-go.
mircea_popescu: the whole wot-isp thing is already paying off.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : samuel l jackson is billed as "black guy" in http://trilema.com/2009/sea-of-love/
lobbes: I appreciate the suggested course correction earlier mircea_popescu. Now, after a week or so of toiling, I come out of the experience with more knowledge about V, sbcl, and postgres instead of painfully acquired trivia about dead-end things such as 'tcl' or the not-long-for-this-world gribble
lobbes: phew. I finally got logbot genesis up and inserting log lines into a database on my test machine. Hardest thing was figuring out the config knobs for postgres (and side-quests such as libuuid)
mircea_popescu: trinque, that does at least half the job -- will get some actual entropy in there, even if it doesn't prevent the dilution with cvasi-random crap
trinque: perhaps there's a yet more immediate route. /dev manager (eudev, w/e) is simply told to symlink /dev/random to the FG device.
asciilifeform puts the postgres docs down, drained for nao, goes back to bed, apparently did in fact pick up some sort of slow-burning infectious nasty on the return plane
asciilifeform: ( observe, linus hasn't really got a kernel, just a tall pile of items like the one linked )
mircea_popescu: so you can waltz into dc installed "linux", patch it, and it either has /dev/random perma-blocked or else fg-streaming.
asciilifeform: trivially, the 'random.c' item linked earlier, simply cut it.
mircea_popescu: that's all that's contemplated here, all we really want from the rest of the shitpile is a very clear knob, which, when turned, makes everything stop working that doesn't work like we expect it to work.
asciilifeform: my whole point was that there can be no such thing as 'native fg handling' on pc. there's always a piece of shit in the way, e.g. usb.
mircea_popescu: so, tmsr-kernel, such as for instance the very tight musl stuff, or what cuntoo evnetually will become, is out of scope for this discussion. of course it should have native fg handling, and im sure it will.
asciilifeform: i can describe some known dead ends. for instance, you definitely do not want to marry the thing to the pl2303. because 1) you have no way of knowing that every pl2303 on usb is an fg 2) not every fg user got a pl2303 , they get whatever cheapest chinese cable is at any given moment 3) for all i know, pl2303 will not be gettable next month, next yr etc
asciilifeform: recall, linus's kernel has no notion of random, it implements '/dev/random' as yet another sort of faux device, via module
asciilifeform: the scheme described above, would work only as a loadable mod.
mircea_popescu: but the idea isn't for ~our~ kernels. the idea is to have an infection vector, that permafucks a linus-tso kernel into no longer working like a piece orf shit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the current set of kernel modules, largely work in either 'module' or 'built-in' mode, depending on how compiled
asciilifeform: could implement module the obvious way : takes N args, each of which must at load time be a valid /dev/ttyxxxx
mircea_popescu: from wherever we make the standard. usb i guess ?
asciilifeform: ( not including #include'd rubbish, of which there is a mountain, as is typical )
asciilifeform: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/char/random.c << the 'traditional' /dev/random. ( get yer barf bag ready! )
asciilifeform: ( for the sake of record : a non-retarded arch would do random like-so : ~as a cpu instruction~ that reads from N ~asynchronous~ ports , where N is odd, debias, and xor )
asciilifeform: the pc arch just plain old suxxxx. every method of dealing with this, has own tradeoff.
asciilifeform: ( why not made originally ? pci adds 100x the complexity; ugly; expensive )
asciilifeform: would have to properly handle all types of attachment for the fg tho ( usb serial, genuine serial, etc )
mircea_popescu: yeah. anyway, i'm thinking the best approach would actually be a kernel patch to destroy the extant random/urandom bs and replace it with fg
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-22#1804633 << sadly asciilifeform is not so familiar with the existing proggy, to answer this properly
mod6: Then post it somewhere for all to see. And if they want to make their own / can make their own, then that's fine. But we should work towards this.
mod6: The main thing that I wanted to do was come up with a TMSR~ blessed methodology for Pizarro clients to use to fruitfully use their in-chassis FG.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-13 12:46 mod6: you know what else in interesting, when i breezed super fast through the code last night (I need to review it more), i noticed that this thing has it's own copy of "ent" embedded inside.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-13 01:48 mod6: Looks like maybe we need to do the latter -- write our own. Did anyone notice that Jeff Garzik is one of the authors of this thing?
mod6: asciilifeform mircea_popescu diana_coman et. al. re: rngd : http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-13#332963 << Where I discover the author of this thing
asciilifeform never implemented a fgtronic /dev/random replacement , quite deliberately, and iirc the reasons are in the log
mod6: Hehe, she printed them off, three-hole punched 'em, and put em in a binder, no less.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-09 20:57 mircea_popescu: drivers/char/random.c is what needs changing. wipe the calls to "add_disk_randomness" and bullshit, replace with your fg feeder.
diana_coman: is there a tmsr patch/recipe for feeding /dev/random from fgs? my search of logs yielded only http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-09#1783118
a111: Logged on 2014-08-06 00:42 mike_c: i have been in the newspaper multiple times, and i have been in trilema posts multiple times. one of these means more than the other, but I can only show my mother the newspaper clippings :)
lobbes: <BingoBoingo> [...] "dat signal's racist" << ayup. Pantsuit trains "autoimmune response" to specific signals, and causes all kinds of broken thinking. I posit that this is the root cause of things such as >> http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-06#784482
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you think ? << Probably. Nothing else explains Sweden's continued doubling down other than handicapping themselves because "dat signal's racist"
asciilifeform: i can see malingerers for pension, or for draft-dodging, but what's his then for ?
mircea_popescu: i can't call it ; but would be no worse strategy than what's the ru guy's name
asciilifeform: if malingering, wainot fill out them forms.
mircea_popescu: see, that's not "one weird trick". that's how EVERYTHING works. the basic 101 of http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/#selection-233.62-233.144
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The single typing fuckgoat they imagine is doing all the talking because... unfair. Shannonizer blindeness is internalized.
mircea_popescu: blind or no blind, french peasant isn't taking one to the head.
mircea_popescu: no, but built special walkway with sudden low ceiling, saw if they ducked.
trinque: mircea_popescu: aimed musket at their heads?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you know how "alt right" picked "soros" to be "the evil billionaire behind everything" ? do you suppose THAT is what prevents the "mainstream left" from identifying the evil billionaire behind their precious cuntlet losing the precious election and everything else ? << "mainstream" left has as an anchor that "individual people can
mircea_popescu: now you tell me, how did they check ?
mircea_popescu: trinque, let me tell you a story. so during napoleon era, for the first time "general army" was introduced, before that it was all profesisonal soldiery. huge humongous legions of draft dodgers, because really now, draft ? and napoleon standing for the "reasoning" "humanism" thingee of course introduced doctors to check whether medical claims were factual (most common amongst which, blindness).
trinque: eh I don't buy the political terms for all this; that appears to be when his brain *is* working, instead of farting around in neurotic loops
asciilifeform: as soon as the smarter folx in the enemy camp get the notion that there's somewhere to defect to -- game over
mircea_popescu: maybe i owe some thanks to these folk i don't even realise...
mircea_popescu: you know how "alt right" picked "soros" to be "the evil billionaire behind everything" ? do you suppose THAT is what prevents the "mainstream left" from identifying the evil billionaire behind their precious cuntlet losing the precious election and everything else ?
mircea_popescu: but they could try a different ineffective one!
mircea_popescu: somehow at all junctures it was always "a better choice" in imperial logic to "blame bad luck", maybe execute a scapegoat or other, than identify the goldstein.
mircea_popescu: and they will, too!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in uncle al terminology, 'they proclaimed it was Bad Luck and carried on'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i mean consider the lengthy list of shit. sent "academician" into retirement ? raped bank new arsehole ? raped govt ministry new arsehole, and as a community project no less ? raped... mit's "media lab" new arsehole ? exposed assets, exposed toolchains, i can do whatever the fuck i please and ~NOT~ be famous.
trinque: > Terry needs like, clear evidence that there's a point to this fucking
ben_vulpes: "but the code of conduct says that the software cannot be allowed to say things about race etc!"
ben_vulpes: ckang: i actually think that'd be a hilarious statistics project; just clustering on skeleton segment lengths would probably be enough to assplode the leftists heads
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there's a very interesting protection factor at work, too! if you do enough things that work, you can do plenty of things that in other people would create "brand" and be immune from it! consider the bit spyked recently dredged up, http://trilema.com/2009/niste-rigoare-pentru-mircea-badea/
ckang: i think the last thing i heard weev say he was working on, was some python code to detect if a person in a photo is black or white
mircea_popescu: STILL doesn't want to do things that work, but things that shine. well... why the fuck ? oobviously http://trilema.com/2017/yitzhaks-trilemma/
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 19:31 ckang: weev is an actual cuck btw, the true definition
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, see, this is one of the best arguments re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803989 (though the correct word is punk, ie http://trilema.com/2012/big-rock-candy-mountain/#selection-227.1-233.34 ) : dood got fucked with the brand thing, stood himself up shakily, dusted self off... and dived right back into it!
asciilifeform: if there's no debian-style herd of ruminants attached, to your 'brand', then ~invisible to these folx.
mircea_popescu: well what's the use of that!
mircea_popescu: whereas davis had less useful things -- they work.
asciilifeform: a certified nutter is one of the 'safest' things to be, from this pov
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, or rather, knew how. see, murdock has "brand" or however you call the fool's gold they're only preoccupied with. they know how to steal that.
mircea_popescu: before being terminated, ALSO gainfully employed (writing nsa crapolade for "docker" -- remember, if they're not dockers, they're just pants!)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he never had anyffing at all they judged to be worth stealing.
ckang: cant find the archive.org copy, it was called FirstMate.mp4
asciilifeform: d00d's on his unstoppable journey into the upper tundra.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is kinda what i was unknowingly reaching for, with the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803880 : more data to extract the understanding out of what looked like a promising vein. but in the meanwhile sleep reorganized observation for me and now it's quite fucking plain.
mircea_popescu: and i'm pretty sure you're exactly right, he could be into fiat again if he started filling in the magic form again.
asciilifeform: whatever other mental cockroaches he could have suffered from in youth, it is all quite thoroughly masked nao by having gone properly batshit
asciilifeform: iirc before davis went fullbore barmy, he was gainfully employed , in the old-fashioned sense, wrote embedded os thing for -- iirc -- 'ticketmaster' co
mircea_popescu: n of the lava lamp".
mircea_popescu: then they go all http://trilema.com/2016/alexacom-or-the-measurable-web-delusion/ but seriously... "uniques" ? holy shit they're not uniques, they're either little terries or little elliots. seriously, they READ YOU ? how the fuck could they ~possibly~ have read you past the psychogenic noise scrolldown going on in front of their eyes non-stop ? exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-22#1804512 holy shit, "i have the attentio
mircea_popescu: now how the fuck can you build anything out of 100`000`000 elliots and 10`000`000 terries ? because that's the other fucking half of http://trilema.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine/#selection-967.295-971.2 "how much does the devil have to pay you to love him" problem.
mircea_popescu: because it's not just terry. the entire population of github, from http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=dgerard to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793426 and ALL shades in between, nothing, EXACTLY NOTHING but little terries running about.
mircea_popescu: now go ahead and make it great again. HOW ? they lack the instruments with which they'd agree upon a great in the first place. collection of terries, give them coffee or not give them coffee, they'll move about like an algae bloom.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 16:19 mircea_popescu: man acting alone is stuck with these "oh, a conclave of idiots bent on self preservation and avoiding the lowly station their idiocy warrants them holds all the power, and i'll act as man alone confronted by governemnt".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it's become a fixation in the children ; now merge it with the church of self esteem and its holy youcandoanything, and the REASON http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800094 ie "smart kids" always being found with their pants down acting the "man alone" part and never learning anything from the experience is pretty fucking clear.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 17:44 mircea_popescu: finally coming out of the massive bender at t2, the dude WOULD STILL LIKE TO EAT. how would you eat if you were him ? would you give up, do something else with your time ? he doesn't give up. he's fucking dedicated.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i'm starting to understand a lot of things about why the maga can never be, consider the gritted, unyielding, sheer determination of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803769 ; and i've noticed my us-born slavegirls CAN NOT QUIT. even when hopeless, even when wasteful, their specific identifiable mark in whatever harem social games is they're the ones that can not fucking say uncle.
mircea_popescu: so amusingly enough, THEIR understanding of his mental issue is built entirely of his sanity. his problem is exactly the rest of what they identify. quite interesting marginal case in being so neatly split. usually there's some overlap.
asciilifeform: this is the likely explanation for his transition to hobo stage -- prolly he finally stopped filling out the magic form etc
mircea_popescu: that's the substance of "costs more than gf" -- resources, spent ; hoops, not jumped. "irrational" behaviour in the imperial contractual sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they lament exactly so, and not specifically about this d00d, but erry single schizo ( incl prolly the one i saw last night )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, but i can imagine, you know, lenghty string of ustards trying to help, where their help was of the form "we'll expend x resources if you're willing to jump through y hoops" and he refusing and them going umm... why doesn't the form thing work!!1
mircea_popescu: ckang, no, it's when his entirely deranged mental state became a lot more difficult to "hide", in the sense usual usg.zek "hides" his being raped daily, from himself.
ckang: did you catch the video of him talking about befriending a prostitute ?
mircea_popescu: the other terries actually aquiesce to unprincipled exceptions, which makes them precisely just as fucking insane but entirely less remarkable.
mircea_popescu: he has these things he'll do, he's decided aforehand, and nothing around matters ONE WHIT. now, will you pour bitcoin into his sand ? if you do ok, but to quote, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1796685
asciilifeform: helps to recall that the d00d is certifiably insane tho ( lived for yrs on a usg pension for insanity. as portrayed by TLP. wonder what happened to this -- they were abolished? i've nfi )
mircea_popescu: let me say something rather... political here. so, an item caught my eye in one of the pastebins or w/e you put in : some guy saying "this bum cost me more than a gf". it entirely illuminated the problem to me : terry davis is JUST as much a perfect representative of the ustarded "brillian computer programmer" as http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/ is the representative of t
ckang: the last bits he put up before getting his phone taken
mircea_popescu: and whatelse, the portland women are proper-er than the sf women and don't want the sausage ?
asciilifeform: i'ma defer to the experts, e.g. gabriel_laddel, re 'how to hobo'
mircea_popescu: ckang, well then this may work.
ckang: and stay there for days
asciilifeform: esp. if you can get to the top floor of a tower.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, but the internet ?
asciilifeform: should, theoretically, boot that very same asciilifeform.gentoo
asciilifeform: nono, recently there was a thread re actual lappy comp, with lcd etc , on same chipset
ben_vulpes: hmk i emailed him but i'll get in there
BingoBoingo: One of the corner bums asked me not for una moneda para comer algo, but for clothing
ckang: someone did some testing of performance on the same hardware for wireguard vs openvpn on a consumer router:
phf: i think it's a common caricature of late stage bureaucracy though, one bureau watching another, which in turn watches the third, etc.
mircea_popescu: where's all this army of deeply interested folk giving a shit about some deeply disinteresting characters to be found... well, in the words of some bum, http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-305.0-305.420
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if not a full half of the aspirational 14% is firmly convinced there's MORE THAN ONE man hour / hour spent by me/usg/god/aliens/whoever specifically on their case.
phf: i started humoring him, "that's what we do", "the hunter must hunt" etc. but that might've been a mistake, because he got progressively more agitated, and i had to depart out of fear of him getting violent
phf: asciilifeform: couple of weeks ago a gentleman sat down at my table at a capitol hill cafe and after a rather brief and unremarkable small talk started asking me, why "you", which shortly turned to mean the cia, are following me.
asciilifeform sitting near usg.capitol, barking loon walks by , shouts at the top of his throat , '... i'ma tell the fucking! truth! about! what! they've done! my daddy was a commander! in ww2! with the goddamn cat! and the monkey! and reagan!'
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 22:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804350 << as he said, blocks which have no known parent in the extant blockchain are bastards. the other concept is orphans -- blocks who have a parent in the tree, but no descendents at current height.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:29 avgjoe: other curiosity i've not found on logs: what does it means bastard block on the debug.log?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804350 << as he said, blocks which have no known parent in the extant blockchain are bastards. the other concept is orphans -- blocks who have a parent in the tree, but no descendents at current height.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:22 avgjoe: someone (not my server, but some other trb instance) is going to get from who these blocks?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804343 << blocks are immutable by implementations ; this is both the source of the observation that "bitcoin corrupts absolutely", ie, it is superlative to anything the usg can come up with ; and the whole fucking point of the protocol in the first place. can trust evil people to do your shit, because bitcoin promises it will enforce upon them the dilemma "either be ENTIRELY impotent, or els
mircea_popescu: the point of trusted nodes isn't "don't link to other nodes or bad things weill happen". the point is "always have these in your connection to stay sane", because a major attack vector towards bitcoin is separation, ie get two sets of nodes adrift in different realities.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:00 avgjoe: my question is: if i add nodes that aren't on the trusted nodes list, what are the risks?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 15:43 avgjoe: so i'd like to ask what happens if there are other "avgjoe" logged on irc and my client change a bit the username to log me in
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804329 << there can't be ; set your nick enforce to on
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, it's not EXACTLY no reason. gotta keep the market churning.
phf: that darwin fish conversation was quite pleasant, thanks for reposting it danielpbarron. i skipped it in logs, because of the high tit noise
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804351 << at some point one of us is doomed to write The Book . folx still walk in with fundamental misconceptions re how bitcoin worx, and there is no ready means of curing'em
BingoBoingo: Show ends with Jack and Hannibal erotically slicing up the FYIAD fellow and cliff diving to presumed death or a cancelled fourth season of their love story
BingoBoingo: There's also a made for TV adaptation spanning three seasons which no one has time for in 2018 that turns the script into an overt love story between the FBI profiler and the Republican psychiatrist to fill time
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 18:26 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, ask darwin if he ever saw "beyond the forest" ? possibly bette davis' best movie (which, predictably, she hated doing, thought was terrible when done, luckily for the world jack warner existed and the hallucinations of choice and self-determination of 1940s pantsuits went straight nowhere)
BingoBoingo: The Tom Noonan fellow more than makes up for Hopkins absence
mircea_popescu: yeahj the red dragon script is terribad, all that woman-interest bs with 4tehchildrenz etc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, hard to say no to hopkins etc. << Sure, but the original film has a much better deviant
mircea_popescu: that's my own explanation for myself as to what has just happened to me, for the record. "the guy thought..." in context.
mircea_popescu: and have you noticed how little PATRONIZING of gays is available on the discoursive shelves of today ?
mircea_popescu: good quality humour always includes a pinch to heaping spoonfuls of ~providing something in short supply~. the pantsuit tards translate this as "speak truth to power", but it's utter bullshit. the politics of humour are uninteresting from a humor-centered perspective ; but the economics of humor are not -- because economics was blessed by god originally with this and only this its attribute : you will forever be field-relevan
mircea_popescu: fabulous, right, because we weren't supposed to notice madmax is gay interest for the sort who "go viking".
mircea_popescu: trinque, : "I guess the guy thought Mad Max wasn't fabulous enough." << this. this is where your divine nature shines through. it's fucking perfect, i've been gasping for air the past minute.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque, reviewed red dragon with girl yest, there's that scene when the nut confronts blake's drawing, derpy museum guide in the background "200 years old!". drew some laughs, fuck me, we held 800 yo manuscripts. europe is fulla them. << I prefer the original filmed version "Manhunter", Very 1980's product.
mircea_popescu: http://trinque.org/wp-content/uploads/artcar/1ptEibDKTTeV15LCEUo9Rg_thumb_377.jpg << "gonna run for president, then got high." aaaayup.
mircea_popescu: trinque, reviewed red dragon with girl yest, there's that scene when the nut confronts blake's drawing, derpy museum guide in the background "200 years old!". drew some laughs, fuck me, we held 800 yo manuscripts. europe is fulla them.
lobbes: ha, my favorite's gotta be the d00d riding the lawnmower-piano >> http://trinque.org/2018/04/21/houston-art-car-parade/
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, ask darwin if he ever saw "beyond the forest" ? possibly bette davis' best movie (which, predictably, she hated doing, thought was terrible when done, luckily for the world jack warner existed and the hallucinations of choice and self-determination of 1940s pantsuits went straight nowhere)
mircea_popescu: there ?
BingoBoingo: It may be a good block, it it will have to try getting accepted again once the node is aware of its daddy
BingoBoingo: And Segwit can't in the form the Power Rangers settled on arbitrarily slice shit off of transactions or blocks. Segwit is an opt-in evil. It can only tickle your butthole if you let it in.
BingoBoingo: Segwit nodes usually have been bricked to the point of not successfully connecting to the Bitcoin network
avgjoe: so the trusted nodes list is more useful on the initial startup when there are a lot of blocks to download and it'd be easier to just have nodes that doesn't send unnecessary info (like segwit payload)?
avgjoe: ok i understand, so i shouldn't worry if for instance i connect to a segwit node, my node will try to chop off the irrelevant parts of what it receive, correct?
BingoBoingo: If the blocks are good, they are Bitcoin Blocks. If not, they are some sort of altcoin (but probably not capital A Altcoin) blocks
BingoBoingo: <avgjoe> my question is: if i add nodes that aren't on the trusted nodes list, what are the risks? << Unknown, generally desirable to get more connections. The idea of the list is to provide a minimum number of non-evil nodes to help you stay in civilized communion.
avgjoe: so far is working properly on debian 9 just modifying the repo (because stretch repo hasn't gcc 4.x)
avgjoe: after installing the deps, i had to set export CPPFLAGS="-P" , otherwise it fails in the middle
avgjoe: ok, i just wanted to report my experience installing TRB. On debian stretch after installing all the dependencies listed on http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html , i've modified on /etc/apt/sources.list the repo to the jessie one, then installed gcc and g++ 4.9, then reversed back to stretch
avgjoe: so i'd like to ask what happens if there are other "avgjoe" logged on irc and my client change a bit the username to log me in
asciilifeform: supposed to have it. i dun have the chipset datashit tho, cannot say for certain.
ckang: the ones I have are samsung usb3 dont advertise wear leveling
ckang: do you have the drive model by chance?
asciilifeform: and backups are the customer's responsibility. always and without exception.
asciilifeform: ( if we pull the 'failed' drive, and all sectors write ok, you'll be getting that same drive again. )
ckang: mostly use them for esxi host, not a big deal if it dies fortunately
asciilifeform: just . don't. fucking. swap. to. them. and don't winblowz/crapple/whatever shituntus insist on constantly massaging the drive for no reason.
asciilifeform: ckang: idiocy; they will wear at same rate
ckang: but the fx3s is still pretty pricey in low volume
asciilifeform: and observe that the pizarro rockboxen are build without swapism.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 05:19 ckang: ben_vulpes: have you done any test on the reliability of those USB3 drives?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804273 << nope. you're invited to buy the same drive and test. fwiw, and unlike cheaper ones, it has wear leveling.
ckang: ben_vulpes: have you done any test on the reliability of those USB3 drives?
ben_vulpes: pinochle: i also have "rockchip" microservers for rent, 4 core, 1.4 GHz, reasonable amounts of storage should you desire to isolate your operations from peers in the wot http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/
pinochle: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1804099 << am interested, will follow up but off for the night
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, poverty of the spirit.
mircea_popescu: not disputing the fu factor of "we don't care about your blather, republic uses your sims and phones as cumrags". but meh, we dun have the hands on deck for such excursions into wank qua cool.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, im sure there's plenty $800 "investments" from 1972 that still haven't fully amortised.
asciilifeform: and not 1 or 2 either
mircea_popescu: anyway. this ultimately seems about the same thing.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, those were on the road in timis
mircea_popescu: "it was WORTH about that much, also. you seen the shits ?"
mircea_popescu: this kinda reminds me of a discussion re romania's 1980s automotive industry, "a car back then, brand new dacia, cost about $800 in real money"
mircea_popescu: you end up with costs over ten bucks a number, and all this so what, so you can make a facebook acct worth exactly the same as facebook inc, ie 0 ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi whether worth anything.
mircea_popescu: now, not entirely clear that it's worth it to bother. so the story is, you buy however many of these, say $2 each, then put them through a machine to be cloned, then have server select the right one at a time... meh.
mircea_popescu: yes but basically, it's just the same crap as found in a contemporary rfid
mircea_popescu: i've not been following the subject, is "simm" item even broken ? what is it, a rfid chip i expect ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's multiple lulz layers in this subj :
mircea_popescu: which is how i ended up brewing my own in the first place.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point of existence is to make life unlivable for the poor after all.
mircea_popescu: hey, ynot. they'll still cost a buck.
asciilifeform: i expect they'll want arseprints or sumthing, next
mircea_popescu: seems you still need a few parts emplaced. but i expect the masses would love such service.
mircea_popescu: and like this i expect it'd be very much a killer app, "pizarro destroys facebook authentication. make your facebook acct here, 0 cost"
mircea_popescu: well now like that, then yes very much helpful. i could buy 10k simms here, read them, put them into al arge blob file and have the item there ready.
asciilifeform: the simulated gsm thing for 'hackrf' universal radiotron
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct. tho it is possible in principle to locate the sim elsewhere
asciilifeform: gadget in question is ~= to the 'business end' of typical pnoje, 'baseband'. little bugger that takes a sim, and exposes a usb socket, from which one can dial, pickup/hangup, and pump pcm voice in/out. is all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, they take standard voice sims
mircea_popescu: also, very hard to beat the 1.x bucks a card thing here.
asciilifeform: the sunday flea market, of all places, had ~infinite supply of that very particular huawei gsm modem that is used for this.
asciilifeform: btw i found that the dc, contrary to expectation, has ok radio reception. which means that we could make gsm modem bank etc
asciilifeform: theoretically should make for princely mpwp etc, also.
asciilifeform: how's the box ?
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu one time tried getting heathen hosters to install fg, and found none who would attempt it )
asciilifeform: the other thing we do, is custom iron; currently typified by ' x + n x FG' . but can be whatever customer likes, potentially.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, was the easy pit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, pizarro clawed itself out of the first pit, "we don't have what to sell".
mircea_popescu: missing from there : "as we read on trilema years ago" and "clearly mp knows better than all of us"
asciilifeform: lessee if demand for these
asciilifeform: the 1 possible exception is oddball 22nm and smaller chinesium, rockbox, allwinner, etc
asciilifeform: rly there is precious little point buying iron ( other than disposables like ssd ) made after death of moor's law