asciilifeform: i did not cite $thread in the american judge 'we already precedented!11' sense, but in 'let's reread'
mircea_popescu: the excitement of "let's see if we said something stupid two years ago that informed policy for the interval and now we're biting it" in the morning...
mircea_popescu: i'd like to review this, i've been thinking about this nonsense ever since you started making noises about the ssh set.
mircea_popescu: my only concern here is whether this actually invalidates the e, N, comment republican format, as a rsa key format.
mircea_popescu: so at the same time people want to see whether "their" ssh key is fucking them like historically they have ; but we can't distinguish "their" key from garbage.
mircea_popescu: but it goes to show what seems to me actually an intrinsic failure of the ssh key format : the fact that it isn't self-signed (rather more generally, the fact that it "segwits" the metadata, having the whole authority mechanism separated from the actual key [and generally implemented as "this key has authority because $user emailed it to me"]) makes it very vulnerable to any failure outside of itself, and impossible to evalua
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that's exactly the idea, the herd won't bother until you reach the precise epsilon.
mircea_popescu: ~possibly~ the solution is to take gpg-only submissions via webform and any-key submissions via an eventual #trilema bot.
asciilifeform: really excitable folx, can spam already, in principle. but nobody to date bothered.
mircea_popescu: yes, but even if you were to, the argument is cogent, "lowering the bar to spamming results in exponential spam volumes"
asciilifeform: the ones that come out of Framedragger's, jurov's, and then asciilifeform's , scripts, i mean
asciilifeform: ( how would they )
asciilifeform: aactually the generated keys also carry no self-signature
mircea_popescu: as you know, plenty of them have, as proven by recent publishments.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 13:44 asciilifeform: additionally, the difficulty of keying in random garbage and having it show up as 'key', has worked to date as primitive, yet 100% effective, spam control.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812165 << so basically the idea here is "ssh keys are not self signed". still though, the usecase is this : guy ssh-gens a key, wants to see if openssl fucked him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most extant ssh pubkeys ( as scanned in the wild ) carry no comment.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 13:43 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812141 << phuctor was written very tightly around indexing pgp keys, and demands that all keys be indexable in the same ways ( by e.g. gpg-compat fingerprint ) . additionally , it demands that all keys have a human-readable legend, and ssh key format does not give any field for such.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812163 << are you saying basically that your indexing of keys depends on spurious metadata that's unrelated to the keys ? anyway, ssh key has a comment field implicit, people often drop an email in there say.
mircea_popescu: "the RSA supercollider and numerical observatory" << ahahaha i like this. a numerical observatory.
mircea_popescu: btw hanbot, i noticed last night the dogs were lying awake.
asciilifeform: ( there's a few keys with outlandishly huge ones; and even 1 with exponent of... 1 )
asciilifeform waves to the cia 'cloud' cluster repeatedly (wai..?) leeching the 193 keyz from last night
spyked: re enumeration, it seems that shithub has this in their public API: https://developer.github.com/v3/users/#get-all-users never tried it though
spyked: ah, I didn't think that far yet. I wanna submit some of the ssh keys I have lying around (or see if they were previously submitted).
asciilifeform: spyked: the only even modestly difficult part of the puzzle, afaik, is to enumerate the user set.
lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> this script takes the format used in jurov's 'phathub' 2016 collection, and produces set of phuctor-compatible keys. do not forget to specify 'legend', the user string, to identify precisely what the key is, otherwise it will remain a mystery forever to reader
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812151 << iirc we had the thread; nonprime exponent is cryptologically equivalent to using the smallest prime factor of same as the exponent; the bits set in excess of this, simply help timing/radio/DPA attack to succeed
asciilifeform: additionally, the difficulty of keying in random garbage and having it show up as 'key', has worked to date as primitive, yet 100% effective, spam control.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 08:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, btw, can the form accept ssh format besides gpg format ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812141 << phuctor was written very tightly around indexing pgp keys, and demands that all keys be indexable in the same ways ( by e.g. gpg-compat fingerprint ) . additionally , it demands that all keys have a human-readable legend, and ssh key format does not give any field for such.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell spyked this script takes the format used in jurov's 'phathub' 2016 collection, and produces set of phuctor-compatible keys. do not forget to specify 'legend', the user string, to identify precisely what the key is, otherwise it will remain a mystery forever to reader
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 08:51 spyked: ^ would also like to try $feature. digging through the logs for this, I found http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-16#1671042 , but unfortunately link is broken
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, typos "definte" in http://qntra.net/2018/05/revived-phuctor-breaks-a-big-pile-of-github-developer-ssh-keys-in-return/ and "continuing escaltion " + "Not content to the the big" in http://qntra.net/2018/05/largest-israeli-missile-barrage-in-7-years-of-syrian-war-aggresses-against-iranian-positions/;
BingoBoingo: Holy shit, I wake up with FAR less crackling in my lungs AND a milestone on the path to reddit bags for the reading!
diana_coman: (in case anyone wonders: ref there is to google cloud's "/* we like this prime */" )
diana_coman: so much weird in that set re key generation; many seem to have e=35 which sounds like one step further from "we like 37" (so why not 35, it's a number just as good as 37!)
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 19:27 mircea_popescu: there is of course jurov's http://explo.yt/post/2016/05/20/Parsing-OpenSSH-RSA-keys-in-Python
spyked: ^ would also like to try $feature. digging through the logs for this, I found http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-16#1671042 , but unfortunately link is broken
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, btw, can the form accept ssh format besides gpg format ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, phuctor acts as a de facto ssh to gpg bridge now, can download the gpg style keys.
spyked: (ftr, /me has read some of dood's work, he seems well-regarded by ro math/logic ppl; unfortunately too ensconced in grantola, sorta the bernstein type I guess)
mircea_popescu: ave1, if you feel like taking a break from diddling ada, feel free to walk the github/bitbucket/we db. spit out keys in the republican format ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469647 ). it'll take a day or two to put in, and the chances of the new set being devoid of lulz are ~0.
ave1: For example, https://api.github.com/users/rimolive/keys, has a list of keys, but not the one phunctored. For others the list is simply empty
ave1: And unhappening, I cannot find the broken keys on github... (Also bitbucket ssh-key api gives errors)
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the end that's what phantom.js is doing anywya.
mircea_popescu: basically, scrape its cookie and then fuck it.
lobbes: hell, the rockchip may even suffice for a prototype if anything
lobbes: But, once I learn to properly represent www as ASTs we can have the beginnings of a proper republican archive
lobbes sacrificed an old lappy as the proverbial 'public toilet'; loaded to the hilt with js-crapolade
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it seems to me the factors ~aren;t~ normally distributed.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 04:11 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, here's a suspicious : so many of these tards have known factors like 2, 3, 5 -- showing there was ~no primality test involved. isn't it bizarre we don't see other factors then, say 111 ?
lobbes: mircea_popescu: curl will get the 'https://archive.is/AvNme,' but the thing I'm running downloads the 'https://archive.is/download/AvNme.zip'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 04:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, also webnitpick. see eg in https://archive.is/AvNme how the table cuts off the field ? is there some way to flow it instead ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean... for what part ? plain curl will fetch the page.
lobbes: oh yeah, I've had the automated downloading thing going for months
lobbes: yeah sorry, I'm sleep deprived. I remembered I only need the phantom js shit for the -download- portion, not submit
lobbes: side note, that mass-submit archiver.is script puts mine to shame. You were able to get around the damn cloudshit with that?
ben_vulpes: there is, or was i don't really care to look, something named like that in portland too: "The Open Sourcery"
mod6: Software Engineer at The Nerdery, Minneapolis, MN << leeel
ben_vulpes: are ukeleles the instrument for people both too poor for a piano and lazy to learn guitar?
ben_vulpes: > especially the varieties you can afford << har har har
mircea_popescu: (they leak it somewhere, but dun reclal right off where)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, also webnitpick. see eg in https://archive.is/AvNme how the table cuts off the field ? is there some way to flow it instead ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, here's a suspicious : so many of these tards have known factors like 2, 3, 5 -- showing there was ~no primality test involved. isn't it bizarre we don't see other factors then, say 111 ?
mircea_popescu: prolly should re-do the db walk anyways.
asciilifeform: some of the lusers ( i specifically did not bother with exhaustive survey ) swapped keyz since '16, others -- not
mircea_popescu: curious which of the luminaries of pantsuit technologees gets pwnd first.
asciilifeform: at any rate thing oughta be able to stand up to whatever treatment the upstream pipe can give it, nao.
asciilifeform: i assume it's for the pingback feature
mod6: oh yah, there you go
mod6: they go cascading from left to right, looks ok but when you get down to 'jgabrielygalan' there is a funny looking wrap where 'key: 1' is left most justified.
mircea_popescu: hm, is the lining messed up ?
ben_vulpes: and also the hn instaban
mircea_popescu: i;d say is one of the lulziest ever.
ben_vulpes: esthlos: i made a gensym dir in /tmp, passed that to gpg for the workdir, and then various operations take a teardown key, defaulting to true which could be overriden to inspect keyring state should the operator so desire
trinque: esthlos: I don't think anyone demands you use precisely that name, if doing so results in more needless complexity than just picking another.
asciilifeform: generally recommended, for folx writing their own.
esthlos: trinque asciilifeform phf etc: what's the best way to deal with sbcl's package lock error when redefining run-program? my naive approach was to define a new package for the vtron. But I'm pounding my head against use-package anyway
asciilifeform: it is very difficult , however, to beat the record of the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821351 d00d
asciilifeform: 'Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock's job was to ensure safe navigation of the USS Fitzgerald. On June 17, 2017, she was "derelict in the performance of those duties," resulting in the deaths of seven sailors, according to the single charge she faced Tuesday.' << somebody give this chix order of lenin.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 18:36 hanbot: esthlos : your blog's comments are borkt (commenter sees 'Error: please fill the required fields (name, email).' despite entering fields), see the "edit" here for the fix http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mod6: Some of the bytes seem to match this array from this mass scanner thing: https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/masscan/blob/master/src/script-heartbleed.c
asciilifeform: ^ either 0day or custom, 0 googlehits
asciilifeform: in other lullies:
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the landing page for the domain in the email of the top entry on the nsa /stats page
BingoBoingo: "For the best performance of our website, we kindly ask you to activate Java Script. Hit the button bellow to start" << Japoneses, button bellow
mod6: twitter sucks. they're all irc wanna-be's.
mircea_popescu: in other news, irc apparently works a lot better than twitter at being twitter. who could have predicted.
ben_vulpes: i wouldn't be surprised to find an old key of mine in there from a mac
mircea_popescu: also, i'm barely 1/3 through sifting the data, this will take a few more hours.
asciilifeform: !#s hypothes.is
mircea_popescu: where "credibility" is of course a keyword in the sense "thrice cursed running dog" is a keyword in the other korea.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz/"hatefacts" : "Hypothes.is is a 501(c) open-source software project that aims to collect comments about statements made in any web-accessible content, and filter and rank those comments to assess each statement's credibility."
asciilifeform did not immediately recognize any of the $lusers ; but did not look very closely as of yet
mircea_popescu: to keep up the hype engine : further upgraded with the phrase "1,653 contributions in the last year."
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/10/more-assorted-trivia/ << Bingo Blog - More Assorted Trivia
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not seeing it in the archives
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, i'm going to put pics and everything in it. why the hell not, make a proper lulzfest.
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu i'm beginning to think that my proof is wrong, and it gotta be 3 2/3-sized segments, rather than 4 1/2-sized , to work.
BingoBoingo: I will. The last time a dhl package got held here (Christmas cookies from mom), there was a manilla envelope with retrieval instructions delivered after Aduanas reached their verdict.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 16:16 asciilifeform: i did. and instructed him to try ( it is supposed to, if dhl is to be believed, have landed in the city on monday )
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811909 << Current status is I am waiting for either the box or manilla envelope with DHL hostage papers to arrive in the mailbox.
mircea_popescu: the one thing pantsuit kept saying early on was "oh, everyone is mp". this is not coincidental -- as far as the lost are concerned, we are literally all tulpas in one single solitary dood's head. because that's what comes out of their b&w camera when they try and photograph copper sulphate : the exact same dull gray as if ground granite.
mircea_popescu: and generally, always expose the more convenient edge of the wot to the sybil. "you" can buy stuff from there and "you" can pick it up here and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: cool then.
asciilifeform: i did. and instructed him to try ( it is supposed to, if dhl is to be believed, have landed in the city on monday )
mircea_popescu: looky here, and read this thrice and understand it thoroughly : the "no identity outside of wot" / "all sybil heads are sybil heads" works EVERYWHERE, not just where you realise it does. the circumstance that the sybil is talking to ~you~ does not get to a) corroborate with the fact that you have a strong idea of the self and therefore b) result in any practical effect. as far as they are concerned, we're all exactly equal an
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2018/05/us-pentagon-investigation-no-one-to-blame-for-green-beret-deaths-in-niger/ << Qntra - US Pentagon Investigation: No One To Blame For Green Beret Deaths In Niger <<< aaaahahahahaha! OF COURSE "no one", what, could it possibly be http://trilema.com/2017/color-revolutions-green-or-today-in-usg-corruption-careerism-cronyism-and-malfeasance-in-the-special-warfare-center/#selection-243.0-243.29 ie "MG Sonnt
mircea_popescu: looks like it went the way of "hire mexicans, they at least work", ended up with a bunch of argentinotards.
mircea_popescu: red hat is officially a banned organisation. enough of the stupid shit.
asciilifeform: oh hey rathead, home of poettering & co
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, hysterical. and, amusingly, goes right to the purging stalin discussion.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 13:23 jurov: the scan listed all users and the keys for every user via api above
BingoBoingo: And the ongoing struggles of the human mushroom: https://archive.is/0I21L "Please do not remove it. GNU is not a purely technical project, so the fact that this is not strictly and grimly technical is not a reason to remove this."
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 03:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811784 << ftr, blue cheese is sterlizer not flora supplement. the buggers that make it blue are ~same that make penicillin.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811858 << The Blue stuff like the ice cream is medicine for the spirit
lobbesbot: jurov: Sent 16 hours and 45 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz tell me how you obtained the KEYID in the 'phathub' collection; and more generally how the scan was made...
jurov: asciilifeform: the IDs are straight from here: https://developer.github.com/v3/users/keys/, and it's github internal ID
hanbot: a good one i heard today: what does a dyslexic, insomniac agnostic do at night? lays awake wondering if there's a dog.
mod6: Sounds like a nice day at the beach!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-fabulous-day-of-many-firsts/ << Trilema - The fabulous day of many firsts
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811784 << ftr, blue cheese is sterlizer not flora supplement. the buggers that make it blue are ~same that make penicillin.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 22:09 BingoBoingo: And the professional opinion came in today. Keep taking the same antibiotic, same dose for 10 more days and if it isn't substantially better in a week chest X-ray. Also was recommended a different anti-mucus syrup.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 21:26 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in the abstract, it'd be pretty great to have mechanisms that work with and without fleanode
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811772 << i can't imagine why ; if and when replaced will be replaced with gossipd if mature, or with ad interim if not. in any case a chat there will be.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811743 << i dunno what experience is this ? worked fucking fabulously for ~all the everything we did so far neh?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 21:16 ben_vulpes: there is also the concern of every customer now gotta be rated, likely by me, which puts me in the nanotube position
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811726 << who the fuck gives wwwtron drop permissions ?!
mircea_popescu: very fucking powerful, if you dont have to maintain them.
mod6: Yeah, came in hard with the awk-foo.
mircea_popescu: phf, dun worry about it, gave me the chance to write one liner db implementation. in awk.
phf: mircea_popescu: the word count thing slipped through cracks, and i even wrote code for it. thousand apologies
mod6: Ok cool, holler when the current items are finished.
mod6: ben_vulpes: re april report update, did we wanna alter the depreciation of UY2 to 0.03333333 ?
ben_vulpes: take heart douchebag, determining how far to go above the bare minimum is a lifelong project :P sometimes 'not one iota' is a fine response.
ben_vulpes curious to see if the guy leaves off at 'osint' copypasta
douchebag: Determining how the various vulnerable libraries pose an impact, and wether or not they could be leveraged by an attacker
ben_vulpes: douchebag: now how would one go about determining if any of these mines were steppable-upon or stepped-upon in the context of trb?
ben_vulpes: i think that'd be a fine thing with which to 'shit the logs up'
ben_vulpes: douchebag: there is always p.bvulpes.com
ben_vulpes: douchebag: the image approach is impossibly frustrating; will not reflow across my screen
asciilifeform: douchebag: is there a reason this is a pic ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: The "Vitango" with rhodiala
ben_vulpes: which one is the maoi, BingoBoingo ?
lobbes: I'll bbl tonight. I gotta do some maintenance on archive process tonight so I can send em through then
lobbes: If you give me the list of URLs I'll feed 'em through the meatgrinder >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811668
BingoBoingo: In other local investigations: urology here consists of boner drugs of assorted dosages, quantities, and prices http://archive.is/vfL5y while psych drugs consist of lithium, an antipsycotic, melatonin, and a bunch of herbal stuff (one of which is a rather active MAOI) http://archive.is/36Okq
trinque: make sure you get your gut critters in order after dropping nukes on them
BingoBoingo: And the professional opinion came in today. Keep taking the same antibiotic, same dose for 10 more days and if it isn't substantially better in a week chest X-ray. Also was recommended a different anti-mucus syrup.
BingoBoingo: The dry air might actually be a positive
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811726 << Should I get a sleeping bag and sleep in the datacenter hall tonight?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in the abstract, it'd be pretty great to have mechanisms that work with and without fleanode
ben_vulpes: plus, gotta do the customerdatabase first in anycase.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let us table it for a bit, i do not have a proposal baked and understand all of the things you've pointed out so far.
ben_vulpes: user decrypts, leaks, their problem. set a session key, broadcast data unencrypted, leak is pizarro's fault
asciilifeform: pizarro/$fp leaks just the same, neh?
ben_vulpes: another approach is to challenge-response and hand over a session token
asciilifeform: ( i lifted the idea from mircea_popescu )
ben_vulpes: yes well steal from the best
asciilifeform: hey this is more or less exactly how asciilifeform implemented the snsa wwwshop
ben_vulpes: but, and many details not designed at this rate since you press me, something along the lines of pizarro/$fp/ renders an encrypted account status including support tickets
ben_vulpes: i'm half of a mind to take offense at the implication i'd impose email on anybody in the republic
asciilifeform: well it wouldn't be a pizarro wot identity ( multi-owner privkeys are problematic ) but rather a ' ben_vulpes-pizarro '
ben_vulpes: there is also the concern of every customer now gotta be rated, likely by me, which puts me in the nanotube position
ben_vulpes: i'm not necessarily loathe to give up the "dump pubkey and sshkey in hole, pay invoice, receive server deets at this url encrypted to your key" model, but i worry the irc demands are an unnecessary salting of friction
asciilifeform: how , for instance, would you propose to match up who paid with their box ? send creds ? ( what, via plaintext shitmail ?? )
ben_vulpes: the freenode nick/handle constraint does grate.
ben_vulpes: there'll be ~no way around asking each user for a gpg key i don't think
ben_vulpes: i imagine some kind of remotehands queue of "make rockchip with sshkey of XXX, upload which IP addr or other unique identifier got the key in question"
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the peanut gallery:
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nao the problem ~could~ be finessed with custom hardware. but not with something that can be built quickly.
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> i oughta elaborate re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811686 : neither rockchip ( nor any device in its price range, afaik ) has any mechanism for netbooting, that does not at the same time reside in something the previous user could have overwritten ( flash rom ). on top of this, rockchip has ~no~ onboard flash , nor can it boot from usb without a valid bootloader ~on sd~ . so a new tenant requires a refr
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes i oughta elaborate re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811686 : neither rockchip ( nor any device in its price range, afaik ) has any mechanism for netbooting, that does not at the same time reside in something the previous user could have overwritten ( flash rom ). on top of this, rockchip has ~no~ onboard flash , nor can it boot from usb without a valid bootloader ~on sd~ . so a new tenant requires a refr
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell jurov plz tell me how you obtained the KEYID in the 'phathub' collection; and more generally how the scan was made...
asciilifeform: enjoy the beach, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ( will detail the ram sadness later )
mircea_popescu: alright then.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im taking the bitches for a beach trip ; mind holding off till i'm back ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think i grasp the idea, they'll be denying even as the 'shower' door slams and the zyklon hisses
mircea_popescu: authority is the concern, not some sort of really tall tower of chairs of meaning.
mircea_popescu: electoral college is good for the empire / bad for the empire. same people, two weeks apart. what do you want ?
mircea_popescu: but even if you got the entire pantsuit party, from everyone-involved-with-github to everyone-opining-on-the-internet to sign an agreement aforehand, they'll STILL deny after the fact.
asciilifeform: well there's more- and less- deniable dents. i dun recall louis xvi walking around and pretending his head were still attached..
mircea_popescu: need i remind you of, say, http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/#selection-77.0-77.246 ie "Plaintiff seeks to make his case solely upon the theory that, by reason of the change in the weight of the dollar he is entitled to $1.69 in the present currency for every dollar promised by the bond, regardless of any actual loss he has suffered" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning."
mircea_popescu: it'll be denied. and the denial will "stick" in the sense luke skywalker really has a "laser sword", for as long as you stay in battlestar galactica universe or w/e the scientology fanfic was. because, for better or worse, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to make some sort of non-debiable/unhealable hole in the boeck bubble, and it almost seems possible in this case
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: currently re-customering a rockchip requires pulling the usbstick and sd and reimaging
mircea_popescu: eh, who the fuck cares what boecks boeck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm taking ideas re pills against 'these were never keyz, you pulled them out of arse'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mk, will callout at top the changes in a bit.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the next item after setting Mocky up with python cgi on UY1 (dear lord, it never ends) will be to databize our customer list, ip assignations, rack assignations, subscriptions etc. i will then reproduce your calculator with actual numbers.
asciilifeform: the other thing, ben_vulpes : ~where~ updated ? it is terrible form to make people do 'eyeball diff' with old copy ( supposing they have one handy )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 00:07 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 , mircea_popescu , et al : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/piz_tab.html << corrections of central column or other init params, welcome
asciilifeform: ( interestingly, for some of the lusers, their account is still live BUT above loads a null. )
asciilifeform: i can already picture the 'cosmic ray' denials
asciilifeform: ( 1st run is wrapping up, soon will fire the 2nd, with debianization probe )
asciilifeform: holy FUQ the number of shithub users with garbage keyz
hanbot: esthlos : your blog's comments are borkt (commenter sees 'Error: please fill the required fields (name, email).' despite entering fields), see the "edit" here for the fix http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/
BingoBoingo: Related, some people take the difference between Llamas and Alpacas VERY seriously
BingoBoingo: As long as your coins sit in an address that starts with the number 1 and you control the keys your are safe
BingoBoingo: It means the miners that had been enforcing rules beyond those real Bitcoin nodes care about simply stop enforcing the extra rules
BingoBoingo: steel: The way weird brokenshit like segwit and other turds that live in addresses that start with 3 work is that real nodes see them as "spend to any"
steel: That would be bad for the real Bitcoin, no? Why wouldn't I wait to buy MUCH much more real Bitcoin after revert with same fiat paper
mircea_popescu: this is an absolute certainty. the only part up in the air is when, but absolutely, everything the power rangers do will get reverted, as a matter of course.
steel: The fact that it can.
mircea_popescu: trinque, i suppose his (intuitive, unexamined) idea is that the item's reversible and will get reversed (as it is, and will) and doesn't know how it'd work in practice.
mircea_popescu: anyway. bitcoin is bitcoin. the various "i can't believe it's not bitcoin" scams the usg has been trying to push are just that, margerine ~nobody cares about (notwithstanding every nigger out there is trying to pretend like they're eating it an' lovin' it)
mircea_popescu: a) have you read http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/ ? not like it's the first time the pantsuit empire is trying to ruin sanity ; b) have you read http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=segwit ?
mircea_popescu: steel, but, to return the favour, who are you (not "to yourself", but to the world) ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 16:14 BingoBoingo: On the plus side, I do get to write about the Jewish problem in Germany while sitting on a balcony in South America.
BingoBoingo: In other news, US Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnel (The turtle guy) tweeted out a shooped picture of himself with lots of cocaine to celebrate one of his boy's primary wins
BingoBoingo: On the plus side, I do get to write about the Jewish problem in Germany while sitting on a balcony in South America.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but it rained last night so quite a bit of the humidity is sitting on the ground waiting to reenter the air
mod6: The humidity is nasty tho huh?
spyked: aha. my reply was strictly re the "place to follow phuctorings other than #t" subj. not sure whether this is needed. if ppl here find any value in something similar to #chainstate for phuctor, then I can do this pretty easily.
spyked: asciilifeform, ACK. I already have it running in a testbed chan, was wondering whether you'd like to have it in a specific place.