asciilifeform: i can picture how habitual swimming in reddit sewage might encourage the disease in susceptible but healthy folx tho
asciilifeform: just picture what 'normal on the net' folx would look like if they did same in meatland
mircea_popescu: anyway. the reason this rather than some random other idiocy is the centerpiece inca relies on to survive is not coincidental. deeply seated fantasy of the narcissist mind.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 22:26 loper_os_cr50: Mircea_popescu: I establish identity temporarily and then move on. But I don’t see how anonymity necessitates solitude
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 22:08 loper_os_cr50: I should probably make a blog, maybe I’ll do that. The point of it is to bypass their pay per chip scam and release it eventually
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 22:05 loper_os_cr50: Currently reverse engineering the Holtek E-Link ICP
a111: Logged on 2018-06-09 23:11 BingoBoingo: Torvalds would love to have an ARM laptop for development and use, but doesn't know if the new Snapdragon machines can disable Secure Boot, either." followed immediately by alf's Odinturd in their punchbowl
asciilifeform: aa BingoBoingo put it in heathenpit. ty BingoBoingo .
mircea_popescu: the joinparty
BingoBoingo: Torvalds would love to have an ARM laptop for development and use, but doesn't know if the new Snapdragon machines can disable Secure Boot, either." followed immediately by alf's Odinturd in their punchbowl
BingoBoingo: http://archive.is/m00OO << asciilifeform et al, behold the immensity of lunix hardware on the Reddits. Also m00OO
BingoBoingo: Only a few years late, but she beat Sloane Stevens. The black tennis player not named Williams.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, no but this was recentlier. we were discussing the "gang" from the sex move.
mircea_popescu: loper_os_cr50, http://trilema.com/2016/what-is-the-leyla-black/#selection-147.29-151.0 and also ascii where the fuck is the convo ? converted roman porticulis, the problem of thick walls ? did i hallucinate all this ?
mircea_popescu: you know, the shops and the culture that spawned them. the famed "gang" entrance we discussed in the leyla black thread
mircea_popescu: they're called glasses.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, i think they already have those
hanbot: suggested chromebook add-on for asciilifeform: a mircea_popescu key that, when pressed, deploys a retractable sledgehammer that smacks operator on the nosebridge (or i guess alternatively, comes alive at night and fucks yer wife).
loper_os_cr50: Mircea_popescu: I establish identity temporarily and then move on. But I don’t see how anonymity necessitates solitude
mircea_popescu: click on it and type there.
mircea_popescu: i can't believe how succesfful tivo has been at technocastrating the youth.
mircea_popescu: newcastleslut, red tab, to the right of this one. says my name. click on it.
mircea_popescu: this is stupid. it keeps you powerless and inca strong. see http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=man+alone / http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/
mircea_popescu: what nick, back in the day ?
loper_os_cr50: Yes I’ve used it for buying and selling bitcoin back in the day
mircea_popescu: loper_os_cr50, do you understand what the wot is and how it works ?
mircea_popescu: listen, why not get yourself a rsa key, a proper irc set-up, choose a name that's not retarded and start a blog, publish the respective bits...
loper_os_cr50: Yep, I’ve done pacemakers and what not before. I have the source code of just about every pacemaker on the market with exception of Biotronic but I have their firmware. I’d connect from irssi but I let my bouncer server expire and on my phone
mircea_popescu: loper_os_cr50, ok, so you basically started trying to reverse the elink yesterday ?
mircea_popescu: for all the pretense, smoke and mirrors, most of these "tech" companies are entirely uninhabited.
loper_os_cr50: I downloaded the firmware yesterday
loper_os_cr50: I should probably make a blog, maybe I’ll do that. The point of it is to bypass their pay per chip scam and release it eventually
mircea_popescu: how's the holtek work going ? publishing anywhere ?
loper_os_cr50: Currently reverse engineering the Holtek E-Link ICP
mircea_popescu: who might you be then loper_os_cr50 ?
deedbot: mother[m] voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !!up mother[m]
asciilifeform: lulzy thread in the rockchip chan btw.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo -- or anybody else who sometimes frequents heathen pits on www -- invited to spread the link to the cr50 summary there.
mod6: asciilifeform: hey! very nice write up on your blog there.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in doubting heathens, https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-06-09#22301347;
mircea_popescu: o hi there odin
asciilifeform: ^ summary of the goodz thus far.
mircea_popescu: newcastleslut, little red tab to the right of this one.
mircea_popescu: take this nikki_ff character. ff stands for facefuck, but what she dislikes is the nikki part.
BingoBoingo: Seems like it from the posts.
asciilifeform: ( at first, unabashed usgology; then rebranded, disguised , as it was rolled out to production boards )
asciilifeform: and that's just the visible crapola.
asciilifeform: btw the #linux-rockchip d00d is definitely caught nao in telling a fib : 1) yes there is not one, but two magic keys (1 for flash updates, other for factory unlocker routine) and yes all deployed units can be popped via either
a111: Logged on 2018-06-08 18:31 asciilifeform: 'did not securely authenticate firmware updates'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821721 << yup. you realise that as far as the imbeciles are concerned, once we break their laptop "security" it'll have been "terrorism" and "hacking" bla bla.
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/ZtbxL << clue re origin of 'h1'. seems like they took a 'metallization mask' fpga, a la early asicminer crapola, and run licensed cortex-m3 core .
mircea_popescu: looks like made by the exact same people, actually.
asciilifeform: reminiscent of old-time gsm carriers and their crippled handsets
BingoBoingo: The vulnerability is "person physically in control of machine can fuck it as he likes"
asciilifeform: 'did not securely authenticate firmware updates'
asciilifeform: how the fuck is this a vuln tho
a111: Logged on 2018-06-08 17:08 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821658 << they could also bring back 701c butterfly keyboard design, but i guess that's too gimicky.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821694 << i actually had that box. the mechanism is clever but i suspect that it wears out ( my unit, to be fair, did not last long enuff for the kbd clockwork to wear out, mobo died 1st )
asciilifeform: phf: if you are able to build the usb snake -- lemme know which cr50 turd ver is in your box
asciilifeform: they plagiarized it long, long ago
phf: heh they are also using gentoo for their stuff.. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/overlays/chromiumos-overlay/+/master/chromeos-base/chromeos-cr50-scripts/
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/common/rma_auth.c#254 << the magic moment where answer is checked.
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/common/rma_auth.c#176 << mechanism, for the curious.
asciilifeform: ( what can be flashed in : it gotta pass the rsa sig ; plus it gotta match the board id ; plus the version must be above the previous )
asciilifeform: turns out also that this is the only routine that uses ecc crypto
asciilifeform: the vendor's 'we'll unlock' pg (to be fair, mentioned in no docs anywhere, only in the python proggy in the src repo) is only a taunt.
asciilifeform: i was able to flash in the https://gsdview.appspot.com/chromeos-localmirror/distfiles/cr50.r0.0.10.w0.3.4.tbz2 image ; it supports a few moar commands, including 'rma open' returned-to-factory unlocker thing. but result was , unsurprisingly, 'with notes from hitler only' : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/c101pa_unlock_nodice.txt
BingoBoingo: The age of my laptop shocks Latinos and Latinas universally.
phf: i used to get comments about ibook in the early 2000s, like old boomer types asking me about y2k or whatever. get the same reaction with x60 now, some guy on amtrak wanted to talk about bitcoin
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-08#1821658 << they could also bring back 701c butterfly keyboard design, but i guess that's too gimicky.
asciilifeform: just like we found with the amd fritz
mircea_popescu: anyway ; basically old lizzards hold exact same pov as tmsr, keeping rsa keys and letting the bumbling kiddies play about with the ecc.
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/chip/g/config_chip.h#139 << implies that google does not actually hold all of the privkeys
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/chip/g/rdd.c#20 << as i suspected, thing drives the receiving end of the debug snake ( the http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2415 item )
asciilifeform: more interestingly, https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/chip/g/loader/verify.c << there ~is~ an rsa key embedded, apparently one variant for fw update
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/chip/g/ << support crapola for the chip, apparently.
asciilifeform: the arch is, apparently, 'arm cortex m'
asciilifeform: this is useful because there is not, apparently, any means for getting a locked h1 to disgorge its fw
asciilifeform: in other noose, i found the vendor binary for my particular box's cr50 (all ver strings match) : https://gsdview.appspot.com/chromeos-localmirror/distfiles/cr50.r0.0.10.w0.3.0.tbz2
asciilifeform: far upstack, re the 'cr50' thread -- asciilifeform woke up today and realized that we can simply cut #wp track on spi rom ( naturally after filling it with e.g. uboot )
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of brick pollitt, "that will come too."
mircea_popescu: yeah, we've not even got to the extra annoying extra short travel distance.
mircea_popescu: keyboard is the size it is. laptop builds around that, the size of the keyboard is not an open engineering problem.
asciilifeform: there's a 450mm lappy?
asciilifeform: i did most of the early trb on that thing
mircea_popescu: why the fuck they imagine ~this~ is engineering problem to solve is anyone's guess. but the laptop kbds they produce are reminiscent of lens-shaped dildos. WHY WOULD YOU
asciilifeform: yea there is not and afaik has never been such a thing as a truly pleasant laptop kbd
mircea_popescu: kbd... well... yeah. though i loathe laptop kbds equally anyway. nonstandard shape
asciilifeform: all aluminum ( but the hinge cover, where antenna lives )
mircea_popescu: so "it's utter rubbish" / "i suspect the os dyi may be sprinkling of holy water, but never checked this. let me know if you establish one way or the other" ?
asciilifeform: i sat down to do this some yrs ago, then decided that life is too short
mircea_popescu: well, don't encourage the "ima make really strong damning statements without my notes" stuff either.
asciilifeform: spyked: reusing parts from existing lappy is possible, tho tricky, you would have to reverse engineer the kbd matrix, buy its weirdo connector somewhere , make kbd scan controller, etc.
asciilifeform: i was actually in line to buy the box myself, for something like a year, turn finally came but by that time i got to see the photos / reviews
asciilifeform: spyked: i could be wrong re the blobs, but iirc there is no fully open loader for a53
spyked: asciilifeform, could please expand re. "blobulent arm"? it's allwinner a53 afaik? I have no comments re. all other points other than: judging from what I hear, only alternative seems "bake own case/kbd/other parts or reuse ones from x60/whatever".
asciilifeform: don't encourage the 'i can peddle liquishit parts that would've been spat on in china street markets decade ago , if i stamp Open on the box!' hucksters.
spyked: re. nsa laptop thread: olimex ppl (huh, it seems I keep mentioning these folks) have a "diy laptop kit" whose specs are very similar to the c101pa (for comparison: http://archive.is/4cp8W vs. https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY-Laptop/KITS/TERES-A64-WHITE/open-source-hardware , the latter doesn't seem to archive for some reason). it's a candidate for my (by now long) hw-to-buy list, the "open sores diy" aspect is otoh the biggest
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the beach, https://78.media.tumblr.com/d8b02d8788229d446afa7d98ff438d22/tumblr_oxei6oXluN1ubezpxo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody carted about.
mircea_popescu: "NEW YORK, June 05, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The Nasdaq Stock Market announced today that it will delist the common stock of Long Blockchain Corp. Long Blockchain Corp.s stock was suspended on April 12, 2018 and has not traded on Nasdaq since that time. "
mircea_popescu: in other holy shit... google returns my own stored image if you try and find the "porch monkey" thing. jesus f. the web is pointless.
asciilifeform: and the contents do seem to correspond, at least partially, to the published src. so there's definitely something to work against.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i don't expect either elegance or smoothness come out of the haphazard antidesign style of google et all.
asciilifeform: if can find , e.g., overflow, then can have whatever payload waiting there to be jumped into.
asciilifeform: so far i did find how to disable #wp signal on the h1 ( it tracks the battery-triggered #wp ). the way updater works, it permits flashing in any old turd, and it goes in a temp slot, which only on next boot gets ecc-sigchecked
mircea_popescu: honesrtly i'd still rather get this than "go to store buy intel chip"
asciilifeform: this is currently best picture i have ( wish i had the schem... )
asciilifeform: iirc the audio dac sits on i2c also
asciilifeform: this is to count only the onboard (i.e. excluding usb)
asciilifeform: there seem to be 4 onboard busses in the thing; ram ( just cpu and dram ) ; pci ( occupied by 80211 chip , you prolly could safely pull it out, even sits on conveniently protruding bit of pcb ) ; spi ( connects to : cpu; boot rom; ec ; 'h1' ) ; i2c ( connects to cpu ; 'h1' ; voltage regs ) .
mircea_popescu: no but these are arms. i thought this is what arm mostly is, bridge-wise.
mircea_popescu: this is the common design, neh ?
asciilifeform: ( i.e. 'h1' does not sit , as far as i can tell, between cpu and bootrom , but rather sits on the bus )
mircea_popescu: in more general terms, if you had to dismantle every organisation the moment it had a mole in it... there'd be no organisations ever.
asciilifeform: fwiw the boot rom reads from linux's ordinary spi driver, in userland
mircea_popescu: so then you know it's been flashed.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, have the boot flash a pink pixel, put a number on screen, whatever. replacement boot sequence won't know to do it, will it.
asciilifeform: the 1.8v spi probing rig comes in next wk.
asciilifeform: or who knows, 'the horse may die' etc.
asciilifeform: i'ma carry on with curing the bootloader then. and when 'h1' pops, it pops, we get clean box
mircea_popescu: so in a sense it's up to you. if you've lost the love of labour because of the cp50 issue, i guess it dies. but if not, i do not see it's a waste of time. make it boot cleanly, try see what happens if you remove the item, try see what happens if you fuzz the item, maybe more stuff occurs -- this is a productive line of research.
asciilifeform: i suspect the thing exists mainly to 1) help 'law enforce' folx pry passwords from unwilling patient's box 2) persistence nest for assorted usgologies installed via pwned userland
mircea_popescu: yes, but it seems to me it's basically a local rootkit. so it's not such an overwhelming concern for the contemplated usecase -- give iphone girly machine.
asciilifeform: but i've not found a remote trigger for it. (dun mean there isn't one)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it can rewrite the boot rom, is what i know for certain so far
asciilifeform: upstack, before i start to fall asleep -- what do we wanna do in re the c101 ? march on with curing the 'ordinary' boot rom, and then sit on the thing pending a successful break of the cr50 booby ? shelf whole thing ? which'll it be
mircea_popescu: then, легко в бою indeed.
mircea_popescu: but yes, re the тяжело в учении -- легко в бою bit -- it comes as a shock generally that "your training must ~exceed~ actual usage, by a ~factor~. you don't train for 80% of what you'll do ; you train for 250% to 300%+ of what you'll actually do."
asciilifeform: could contain whatever, in the middle of lead sphere
asciilifeform: i suppose anyffin that dun xray properly, is insta-suspicious to the derps
mircea_popescu: and btw, the idiot airport guards keep slicing the weights. cuz it's by now so rare an item i guess, "gotta see what's inside".
asciilifeform: there are, 'тяжело в учении -- легко в бою'(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as ankle weights. my slavegirls should know, they get them lots.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a continuation, where , something like asciilifeform:'lorica oughta be heavy, but from iron, not lead weights' and mircea_popescu:~'but only the centurion who wears it should get to decide why heavy'
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/heres-how-pantsuitism-christianity-ruined-civilisation-in-both-the-ancient-and-the-modern-world/#selection-109.0-109.1154
asciilifeform: them
mircea_popescu: and the "too heavy" helmets ?
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/tpm2/+/master << for aficionados. the crypto, such as they are, routines in the cr50 thing. ( even seems to include a kind of orc rsa )
mircea_popescu: right. so you know, my allergy "to the short ooda loop" is all the flies going "o man, this is great! yay!". it's not to the fucking meat, i eat steak tartare every so often
asciilifeform: meat in the sun.
asciilifeform: it's the old flies-and-cutlets thread
mircea_popescu: point remains, two bit everything all around. that's your "short ooda loop". it's a lot closer to cocaine than the users realise.
mircea_popescu: and i was sitting there in disbelief, "dude, it's two milf lamers in a tub, what the fuck".
mircea_popescu: you know i recently googled a pic, and google helpfully informed me who the, and i quote, "reality television personality, model, entrepreneur, socialite, and social media personality" involved were ?
asciilifeform: sorta reminiscent of the old rifle thread ( 'good old days, 7.62x54mm mosin, back when people could still aim, make every pop count' )
mircea_popescu: i saw a terrible film recently, with doris day. something something bla bla bla. she spends the whole time in an ugly looking deerskin.
asciilifeform regularly has this convo thread with pet, 'books sucked less when they had to be stitchbound'
mircea_popescu: no but see, all the faggots that take pics today and didn't in 1970 are exactly all the faggots that couldn't read books before they were made on pulp paper by pulp paper book makers.
mircea_popescu: "but mp... i ~copuld~ take better pics today than in 1970. point in case -- i didn't even TAKE pics back then"
asciilifeform: ok this is where i admit that i have not read the orig idjicy..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i am at no point in there hating on short ooda loop. i am hating on the idiocy he surrounds it with.
mircea_popescu: then they wonder why they don't ever have any gfs, these people. "i tried to evaluate whether she's my gf in a second or less, came out negative" "maybe give it i dunoo... FIVE DAYS ?" "omfg what ? i don't like... live that long"
mircea_popescu: sprucing up the dummkopf article ; apparently i hadn't put enough links in there, counterintuitively.
a111: Logged on 2016-02-04 17:30 ascii_butugychag: 'this was confusing to ME' is the basis, EVERY MOTHERFUCKING TIME
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: almost definitely in the symmetrics thread
mircea_popescu: esthlos, there's some discussion, after which i pick something and start asking people nicely / kicking them in the head about it.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 23:07 asciilifeform: there is ~0 actual relationship between 'confusing to the naked eye' and 'crypto-hard'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upstack: possibly you were looking for the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595992 thread
esthlos: trinque: I added a manifest to my v_genesis vpatch. I'm curious, though, how these items (vtron, manifest) become declared "standard", if ever
mircea_popescu: there's this vicious slander going about according to which i actually use some sort of thought process. i wish to deny such rumours right now.
asciilifeform: how would it make sense for it to be ~moar~ subtly boobied than the 101
asciilifeform: that the dev d00d mentioned
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, where's the logline of you going "hey, this is confusing to me therefore cryptic to anyone" ?
asciilifeform: i'm still curious re mircea_popescu's logic re the older box
mircea_popescu: bill s.nsa for 'em and there you go. worst case we have some not-great hammers.
asciilifeform: i could use some eagle eyes on the coad, also
mircea_popescu: the worst case being what, a pile of useless data ? big woop, i have some of that myself, isn't killing me.
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, building a fuzzing harness for a bunch of these may not be a bad way to lock down a machine (driving the fuzzing) for a week or two.
asciilifeform: ... interestingly, the 101 apparently comes with all of the usb debug ~driving~ end crapola, and will happily diddle itself when plugged into... itself
mircea_popescu: after all the "rsa is broken because we've been misimplementing it for 20 years under our governmentalpg brand hurr" stories, it'd be quite pleasant.
mircea_popescu: anyway... let ~them~ explain how "it was an implementation error -- no fundamental ecc breach".
asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell, the thing implements plain old 'p256' ecctron
asciilifeform: if i can do this, i think i'll skip the small change and take home satoshi's coinz
mircea_popescu: listen, my (often wrong, millitantly ignorant, whatever) intuition is that if oyu have an oracle in your hands (the chip after all DOES say yes or no) and all you want to do is produce a sig it accepts for an arbitrary string, you should be able to achieve this bit fiddling in less than 2^256 tries.
asciilifeform: it's a pretty plain boobytrap, wants magic sig to r/w the 'h1' firmware, or to unlock the console (which gives rootkit access to whole ram, cpu, ec, etc via the usb jack)
mircea_popescu: then nm.
asciilifeform: i'm actually ~persuaded that the posted code actually runs
mircea_popescu: you know, it occurs to me... it it's a captive minichip. it should be... defeatable. keep feeding it bad sigs and measure the powerlines.
asciilifeform: like there was in intel's me
asciilifeform: not to mention that it seems to be a ~pogo with eeprom proggy (these dun show on micrograph anyway)
asciilifeform: it doesn't have a magic symmetric key, there's a ecc public sig thing to unlock the boobytrap and, e.g., erase/reprogram the thing
asciilifeform: mod6: read end of thread, subj is a ~standard arm with eeprom that ( per my experimentation in past 2hr ) actually does seem to contain something like the linked crapola
mircea_popescu: hey phf, you actually know the fellows ? how about they show up here and work something out ?
mod6: they take bitcoin donations, but, no coins ever sent :[
mod6: the zeptobars route may be a decent idea. has anyone reached out to that guy?
mircea_popescu: but whatever, it's what the empire's got, #lisp is about "lisp" and so on.
mircea_popescu: i mean, doodn's not even had the common decency to reg up, however many months later.
asciilifeform: yea theoretically useful
asciilifeform: and it's about the logger thing, not #rockchip
asciilifeform: or do i misread the q
mircea_popescu: i mean, the backstop would obviously be "either follow spec as-is or get out of chan", i suppose. i don't specifically care either way, we already have plenty of proper loggers for one thing, and the original, "Hey, maybe someone exists on freenode that's both a) not totally braindead and b) hasn't heard of #trilema yet" was thoroughly proven wrong by now ; the intelligence flow is the other way.
asciilifeform: dunno that the game is worth the candles; better to try an' persuade the 1 useful d00d to visit
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 20:13 phf: asciilifeform: can they put a bot here so it'll quote for us? :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, phf & anyone in the l1 that cares : should i actually push this http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-07#1821229 thing ?
asciilifeform: but suggests that the thing is a standard arm chip, with flash ram, that can be rewritten
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/extra/cr50_rma_open/cr50_rma_open.py << last piece of lulz, for nao: claims to be 'tester's' defuse for the boobytrap. however dun work with my box, it has the 'ccd' console command locked out
asciilifeform: https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/master/board/cr50/tpm2/rsa.c#L651 << magic pubkeyz in the rom
asciilifeform: the 'PINMUX' bit suggests that the informant d00d was telling the truth, thing indeed controls vreg bringup, at least the 3.3v rail
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/board/cr50/gpio.inc << claims to be the i/o mapping .
asciilifeform: i have reasons to suspect that if it indeed has anything to do with the physical item, it is only partial picture.
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/board/cr50/ << for threadcompleteness -- the purported src.
phf: worse case he'll just fail, but probably at the limit of what he can do
asciilifeform: one's 50k$ of work, other 5mil
mircea_popescu: understand, the cost of failure here is minimal.
asciilifeform: it's the kbd cobtrolr
mircea_popescu: usb kbd ? short the powerline ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-07 20:47 mircea_popescu: pshaw. i'm willing to pay for the board this is tested on.
mircea_popescu: yes. which is also why i think this is where the levee should break
asciilifeform: ( why even keep the orig ec )
asciilifeform: has the appearance of a hasty and gnarly glue job
asciilifeform: not single line, seems to handle the keyboard matrix also ( for reset combo ) and possibly vregs also
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to it : the cp50's point of interest is, that it has a connection to power button. this is a single line, is it ?
phf: this is the kind of stuff phrack was supposed to talk about, but meanwhile the community was gutted..
asciilifeform: fw (or what claims to be the fw, i cannot verify re actual iron) is a c proggy, for what looks like an arm
asciilifeform: so far no dice, not in ru sphere either
mircea_popescu: i was hoping maybe the firmware might indicate.
asciilifeform: i've been looking for it since it was first mentioned in last wk's thread with the d00d
asciilifeform: google had various crapola fabbed in the past, it wouldn't be a first
asciilifeform: if it's a shelf chip with title sanded off, neither i nor apparently anybody else knows which