mircea_popescu: we could even go so far as to say that inca is the chain-of-knaves.
mircea_popescu: " 1880s because totally, that's what you have servants for, not to rule their life but to hide away cowering somewhere ; it's not just that ladri de biciclete clearly and plainly shows the ~exact same~ roman insulae, 1950 as 19.5 -- except thoroughly deserted of the pater familias that'd have ~been~ ~there~ in the first century.
mircea_popescu: it's not just e a blair going "oh noes, what if the indian mob laughs at my gun!!1 better wet the bed" 1920s ; it's not just j k huysmans going "il s'arrangea, enfin, de façon à ne pas être souvent obligé de leur parler ou de les voir.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the present pile of sad is the result of numerous betrayals and cowardries.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the archive link 404's
asciilifeform: i suppose it's a defensible pov, that the various 'social democrats' etc derps who agreed to 'coalition with provisional gov' , played role similar to the human bridges over barbed wire in ww2
mircea_popescu: alf says " this encourages the idjit farmers." i ask "and in that, are they the dumber, even ?"
asciilifeform: 'ended up there too'
mircea_popescu: looky that we ended up there too.
asciilifeform: the dumber bulls, in this model, actually agree to sit down, and try to moo out prayer, this encourages the idjit farmers.
mircea_popescu: it's the lulz of all time.
mircea_popescu: and then they keep getting humiliatingly defeated any ol' fucking time i feel like, and they "explain it".
mircea_popescu: yes, but then the farmer seats bull at table, and spends the evening wondering why the chair doesn't seem to fit and why this fellow won't say grace with him.
asciilifeform: it is not difficult to corral folx who have deeply nfi what they're doing or why. just as farmer has no problem with corralling bull, despite the latter weighing 10x of him
mircea_popescu: the mammies that "just wanna" "the system" to continue "until they get their pension" are supposed to share a seat with the "fuck you all and if you all burn tomorrow it's not soon enough" smart people. duh ?
mircea_popescu: aaannyway. the pantsuit co-opting of what originally was "fuck your broken github-based must-upgrade process" into their own stinking folds is the ultimate act of cultural appropriation. and why "the left" is "turbulent" and "self-hating".
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 04:08 asciilifeform: in other veryolds, 'you'll feel no dismay, watching your house burn, after you get to see how the bedbug dies!' (korean proverb)
asciilifeform: see also the mega-proverb of the eastern orcistans, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1630779 .
mircea_popescu: which is how all the cool kids were nazi, and how come the nazis had the cool art, and so forth.
asciilifeform: ( the only other faction that shared this pheature, were mahno's anarchists, and they came pretty close to a win )
mircea_popescu: and this is, also, the deep justification of nazism. "if they actually flatten the modern democracy science & reason idiots, we don't even care if there's no more jews".
mircea_popescu: simply the ideology marx explicitly feared, "they'll rally around a flag saying 'mort aux cons' instead of our pantsuit preference".
asciilifeform: btw one pheature of lenin & co that gets vehehery little press these days , when folx like to point out 'he didn't overthrow , other factions did all the work' : lenin & co refused, out of principle, to participate in any 'temporary government' derpage at all.
mircea_popescu: yes, ideology, but not AT ALL the ideology retconned in place of reality cca 1960.
mircea_popescu: moreover, this is how prinz whoever the fuck got bombed in 1914, and how everything else.
mircea_popescu: ~this~ is the fundamental reason the tsar got killed ; lenin isn't so much a "bolshevik" as he is a decadent, in this proper sense : "by fucking god ima hang all of you", spoken 1890.
mircea_popescu: the leadership went on to create anarchism.
mircea_popescu: and unrelenting such idiocy. this called itself "symbolism", to dissociate itself from the terrorists.
mircea_popescu: then sometime in the 90s there was a split : the bulk of these intelligents decided "we just want to", ie, "not interested in politics", proceeded to discuss colors, in the vein of
mircea_popescu: intelligent people grouped about, and the grouping was named "decadence" (in french, because the world was french then).
mircea_popescu: this led to a strict rejection of "modern science" and "the rational process", thereby implicitly of "modern democracy" (it was just as modern then, too) and so forth.
mircea_popescu: no. late 1800s, it became evident, just as today, that the emperor is thoroughly naked.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how aware you are of all this, but here : the previous set of "holy shit, the inca's a pile of idiocy" folk deserted the leadership under the flag of "we just want to". you know ?
asciilifeform: the old lizard dream, an equiv of broiler chicken business 'debeaking', was born.
asciilifeform: a bedlam full of 'droolers' was not only aesthetically preferred by the bedlam-keepers of the time to one full of 'screamers', but also cheaper.
mircea_popescu: hanbot btw, the ^ is involved in the large discussion re "physical exhaustion / muscle toxin buildup causes depression".
mircea_popescu: and so, the modern little lysenkos have the united-soviet government convinced of their brand of nonsense ; much like the others.
asciilifeform: from that point the pharma thrust became 'how do we do this and still have usable factory etc slaves, rather than simply vegetables'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall reserpine, ~the~ 'advance' in early 20th c 'angry bull management', was touted 'clearing the bedlams' etc
mircea_popescu: obviously inca has no problem losing out the one thing that can sorta-maybe fix smart people in trouble. what it needs is something entirely else ; as everywhere else across the vast field of possibility.
mircea_popescu: o very medical - a dood donned a butcher's leather apron and sent gibbets flying every which way 8 hrs/day).
mircea_popescu: there's some depth here : talk psychiatry works for intelligent people only, and even then dubiously ; chem psychiatry does not work, at all, except it does disorient. this is sufficient in some views, in the sense that humans can't distinguish dizzy cows from plain cows, and angry bulls are kinda scary. so it's the perfect "solution" to the problem of "unruly nigger". cheaper than the previous perfect solution (which was als
asciilifeform: as with all good explanatory hypotheses, this one resolved several puzzlers in asciilifeform's head in one shot (e.g. 'why did the open-whatever folx accept being corralled into soresforge to begin with' )
mircea_popescu: the dood was a talented talk-psych, good structure of thought in his head.
asciilifeform: 'accepting the form of argument but rejecting the conclusion' or how did mircea_popescu describe'em.
asciilifeform: iirc i asked ( on, laugh, slashdot ) re why there is not a 'warez p2p'-style replacement for soresforge , for pissing on bans etc. ( no prizes for guessing how many answers )
mircea_popescu: anyway, github is very much going the way of livehornal / slashdot.
asciilifeform: i still recall the 1st time i heard of an open sores thing being added to index librorum prohibitorum or whatever the derps call it nowadays. iirc was in early 2000s, some 'unauthorized' mud client, banned at the behest of blizzard co
mircea_popescu: "those nameless idiots in siouxland are eating turd sandwiches, so we here in paris must therefore eat turd wellington!!11"
asciilifeform: euroreich is where they beta test new idiocy for usa, neh. e.g. taxes on blank cd-r, etc
mircea_popescu: europe is such a lulzy shithole these days. sorta like the whiplash of its erstwhile colonies.
asciilifeform: 'save linux' 'save the net' 'save rms' etc.
asciilifeform: modeled on the fsf agit crapola, really
mircea_popescu: "if we act like it matters then it almost does" ? how cute.
mircea_popescu: yes, i have notices/dccs/whatever featurecreep they "updated" irc with turned off.
asciilifeform: '[Global Notice] On June 20th, the Legal Committee of the European Parliament will decide on a copyright reform that could radically change copyright laws throughout the EU and have an impact on open source software. If you're in the EU please see https://savetheinternet.info/ and https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filters-code/ for more information'
mircea_popescu: wow, you srsly follow their blog ?
asciilifeform: the fleanode link
mircea_popescu: lobbes wb. how long did the setup take ?
asciilifeform: whether explicable by the phobia of 'oh noez some DH stats sometimes fail' or general-purpose idiocy -- i do not know.
asciilifeform: i find it mildly interesting ( tho entirely unsurprising ) that, year and a half after FUCKGOATS released, there still appears to be nobody else selling unwhitened trng.
asciilifeform: there are now 6 published FG tests ( afaik ) .
asciilifeform: esthlos: thank you for posting your tests, i have added your page to the FG tester links.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 02:13 mircea_popescu: this very much ~wasn't~ the first mention of bitcoin on trilema, there's earlier march http://trilema.com/2011/de-ce-trebuie-protejat-angajatul/#comment-43648 and april http://trilema.com/2011/guvernul-cu-rata-de-succes-33/#comment-47237 mentions by a fellow named gheorghe
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825614 <-- I wonder if dood is still tuned in (maybe read-only? I know I was for more than a coupla years). kinda enjoyed the conversations back in the day.
lobbes: in other news, I've finally resurrected my blog. Now coming live from the blazingly fast pizarro rockchip >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-18#381193 << could let teh customer manage his own, regardless do let me know if the machine in q starts misbehaving
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this theory was , afaik, pretty much as tested as anything could ever be, and stood. consider how su turned to old toiletpaper just as soon as the last ww2-hardened folx retired from running it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the den, https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6dx03ZOqI1qh1gdpo1_1280.jpg ; guess why it's even called a den.
mircea_popescu: "risks to undercover agents", in every fucking manual/imperial discussion/whatever since the days of edgar hoover (who didn't permit it, btw, and for this reason) is specifically that exposure to violence renders slave incapable of "readjusting" to "normal" environment.
mircea_popescu: the reason wife exposure (as discussed in say http://trilema.com/2018/le-salaire-de-lidiotie/ ) WORKS is specifically because the harsher the world treats her, the more independent she gets.
esthlos: aha. so no ultimate threat of violence is needed in slave mind; the knowledge of inadequacy is enough to drive the submission? and then violence works to direct the submission?
mircea_popescu: in this context, "if you're going to trust implicitly, either trust the republic or it's the lime pits for you" is a direct continuation of "if you're going to believe in god, you'd better fucking believe i am that god", ie some minimal mental hygiene.
mircea_popescu: nobody buys an ipad because "otherwise they'll get shot by LAPD". they buy the ipad because "i am so fucking stupid, i literally can't tell the difference between this piece of shit and a working programmable machine".
mircea_popescu: nobody trusts implicitly "or else". idiots trust implicitly because they objectively lack the capacity for anything else, so it's a strict "either trust implicitly or not at all" dilemma they face.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's false to claim violence is usually the driver of submission. the slave's need to submit, or more specifically https://78.media.tumblr.com/d926fbf7f8b20c715946d9477fbbc555/tumblr_p85oiw4jb91x1qecto1_1280.jpg ; the slave's drastic incapacity, inadequacy and insufficiency are the driver.
mircea_popescu: esthlos the atempt to weave practical thought and ideology isn't even fruitless ; i believe the symmetry described is truthful and informative.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ping BingoBoingo ( to plug the ssd into dulap ) and asciilifeform ( to work the magics ) if you want it relinuxed.
asciilifeform: technically the neg rule not even invoked in this case, as the subscriber is mircea_popescu ; he can do whatever he feels like with the thing.
mircea_popescu: who even knows, i can't distinguish the angled eyed.
BingoBoingo: Argentina drew to Iceland, Spain drew to Portual... Russia put up five points against the Saudis... If Uruguay can't break 12 against they Saudis what is they world coming to.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 17:38 mircea_popescu: anyway, nfi why thailand is famous for its ladyboys. they're a minority there, while united states consists of nothing but.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826235 << the thai, if one were to believe them, insist 'they're all cambodians'
BingoBoingo: It'll probably still be a bore, but I will have seen the exception to 1-1 ties that proves the sport is a bore
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> iirc saudis have one of the worst teams in the world. << This is the interest.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'll even admit that it could be made an interesting sport, if, let's say, they armed the saudis with scimitars, the egyptians -- with that sickle thing; etc
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's why it is 'the zone' he is packed and not loose
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826233 << the asylums must be packed, if they let this specimen loose
asciilifeform was off in the sunlit world, picking cherries with relatives
BingoBoingo: Absolutely awful. If I make it to my 70's I want to retire then in a baseball Latino country.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 18:54 douchebag: mircea_popescu: I just got back, what was the exact reason I was negrated?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: here's where i admit that i also can't bring self to watch 1st 10. or for that matter, the in-between
mircea_popescu: it happened to be on screen @whorehouse earlier, but otherwise...
BingoBoingo: Colombia plays tomorrow, but thus far Uruguay is the only South American team with a win.
BingoBoingo: But, I can't be arsed to watch anything other than the last 10 minutes of the games as they happen. I hear what I hear.
BingoBoingo: I am guessing they assumed more would follow?
BingoBoingo: Before the game tied, Brazil scored their goal. For that on goal about a theird of the way into game time the handful of Brazillians for more audible for more time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i can't imagine why, they 1-1'd with switzerland.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Mexico whooped Germany and the few Brazillians here are substantially louder and more excited than the Uruguayos were
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I just got back, what was the exact reason I was negrated?
BingoBoingo: Ah, the classic GirlyMen
hanbot: afaik because in thailand the ladyboys work at it, diligently and purposefully. where as Joe vonCan'tStackIt here prolly goes around in lumberjack plaids religiously checking the "M" box
mircea_popescu: anyway, nfi why thailand is famous for its ladyboys. they're a minority there, while united states consists of nothing but.
mircea_popescu: so... win-win, as they say.
mircea_popescu: moreover, an attempted nominal continuity with your 20yo self would rather hinder you today.
lobbes: Hm, this makes sense. 20 yo lobbes was not in any sense the lobbes of today
mircea_popescu: at issue isn't whether yes-or-no, but whether specific-identity-or-not-particularily, see ? even if what you describe happens, the item coming back won't meaningfully be douchebag.
mircea_popescu: this or any other,\
lobbes: Sure. Best case as I see it is: mebbe d00d reads in silence for couple years, then, once not-20-years-old and able to grok, comes back and does productive things. Probably won't happen, but ya never know.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 00:25 lobbes: douchebag: at least keep reading the logs. I wager that if you do, within 5 years time you may start seeing the value of building reputation with the world's only sovereign
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826190 << there's a lot to be said for not wasting each other's time.
mircea_popescu: !!rate douchebag -1 as it turns out, the more elaborate effort one puts into distinguishing gold from sand, the more elaborately sandy sand the one ends up with. gold is irrespectively evident on the first pass.
BingoBoingo: douchebag: That is the case. The shares trade on the market so the price can move. Style guide is here: http://trilema.com/2015/lacessiveram-editor/
asciilifeform: 5bux at toy store buys you a 'oh noez he was armed!11' and a phree police firing squad, for the pathological coward. etc
asciilifeform: ( in the coupla states where it doesn't -- 10bux still buys you a box of shells, and another 10 -- iron pipe at the 'home despot' and old nail... )
mircea_popescu: they found him dead in a ditch, sewed him back together and ran reanimative storm-powered electricity through the pile ?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the FUCK is that!
hanbot: meanwhile i accidentally stumbled on TLP's return as it might look through the brainpan of elliot rodgers, oodles of cringe for anyone in need of a little sharpening for the ol' misanthropic awl: http://archive.is/AIaGN
asciilifeform: summary : su made a pdp-11 that 1) ran on 20 milliampere 2) included such things as a... supercapacitor ( i had nfi that even 1 of these was ever made in su ) that powers the sram ( yes ) for ~15 minutes~ during batt swap.
asciilifeform: ( to be utterly pedantic, it is possible that somebody applied a faux seal. or that the batteries were swapped by orig maker, who guaranteed them for two (!) yrs after ~sale~ )
asciilifeform: that there apparently some primo atlantean lost tech.
asciilifeform: the noteworthy bit, is that the unit -- stamped 1991 -- has the original factory seal. and on account of the design of the box, can show that: ~original~ 1991 batteries, still function.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in oldies, asciilifeform recently acquired a specimen of the famous http://mk90.blogspot.com/2009/09/85.html pocket comp ( was made, from late-perestroika psychosis, in chassic copied from a jp calculator ) . pdp11 (!) compatible box.
douchebag: Are you asking if I charge women to let me fuck them?
lobbes: douchebag: at least keep reading the logs. I wager that if you do, within 5 years time you may start seeing the value of building reputation with the world's only sovereign
asciilifeform: douchebag: when you waltz the gurlz open, do you also charge'em ?
BingoBoingo: Not quite as much so as the sticky stuff in pete land, but not exactly pipe friendly
BingoBoingo: That is the great tragedy of Venezuala. All that oil and... It's the sticky heavy stuff.
mircea_popescu: wait, the president of nigeria rich ?!
mircea_popescu: people usually send letters with their own picture on them where this guy is from ?!
BingoBoingo: and official seal. "I wish you can remove doubt and suspicious and go ahead I assured you that you will never regret this fund release," the email said in part."
BingoBoingo: "It got to the point where they were showing me that the president of Nigeria had sent me a letter. It had his picture on it and everything," Haines said. "I looked it up on the computer to see what the Nigerian president looked like, and it was him." Once, he received an email claiming to be from Robert Mueller, who was then the FBI director. The email was addressed to Haines, code-name "B-DOG," and it was signed with the FBI's address
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "
mircea_popescu: "mommy, mommy, the kids in school hate me." "why ?" "THEYRE BARBARIC!!!!" "oh, i see!"
mircea_popescu: oodles upon oodles of discussions of "antisemitism", a term very substantially like phologiston : its mere inclusion in a text constitutes an ironclad guarantee that nothing intelligent, useful or interesting will be found there.
mircea_popescu: on the otherhand, but just as amusing, the simple and plainly evident fact that period europe consisted of ~way~ the fuck more people who couldn't stand jews than of people who liked hitler is, somehow, not much of a subject for the pomposity calling itself "scholarship". really, this happenstance doesn't happen to be at all interesting, somehiw ?
mircea_popescu: you know, the whole pile re hitler ancestry is fucking hysterical. fellow "absorbed austrian granite through his father", believe it or not. whatever that might mean.
mircea_popescu: ah there it is, Leopold Frankenberger, the 19yo son of the jewish family where the 40yo grandmother worked as a cook. this is ~about what i recalled.
asciilifeform: kanzure: there was a bit of useful work for a fella with a linear accelerator, see logs.
asciilifeform: there's 2 separate j00 versions tho, there's one where he's bastard son of a iirc merchant
asciilifeform: afaik unknown, young feller had the archives cremated after anschluss
asciilifeform: the great biomass reducers of the past, tamerlane to old man schicklgruber , never had any problem realizing 'what can do', aha
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's this constant "oh, there's a lot of us, what can you do". i dunno... machine gun the leftovers after extracting all prostitutable girlies ? how about ?
mircea_popescu: owing on one hand to the extreme cheapness of building materials and on the other hand to the absolutely beaslty notions of southern socialism, as to the "rights" the scum has.
mircea_popescu: they have this HUGE problem in the orclands with "buildings" without title on land the builders don't own.
mircea_popescu: eh, england's a shithole to the degree a waspnest better approximates it. they have to constantly tear down old cells to chew into new ones.
asciilifeform: ( the brits seem to be afflicted by a belief that... they can speak. witness the demolition of the prison where they murdered rudolf hess; or the bulldozing of every place the skripal d00d ever sat down in; etc )
mircea_popescu: if the walls could speak, no one would listen to any degree. there's already too much to read.
asciilifeform: 'if the walls could speak'.
asciilifeform: i can actually picture bricks in some old walls having something of interest to say. in this sense the biomass in fact loses to brick !
asciilifeform: 'there is a nest of spiders in me'
mircea_popescu: "today, a snail came. i am not sure about this new moss growing. the wind is uncharacteristically global this time of the cycle. bla, bla, bla..."
asciilifeform: if bricks could speak, betcha there'd be a subreddit for'em
mircea_popescu: imagine the patter!
mircea_popescu: if every brick standing for eight to twenty centuries in an indistinct wall spoke the whole time we'd go mad.
asciilifeform: 'who said i have to write for you to read, motherfucker' etc
mircea_popescu: there isn't really much to tell, which is why "happily ever after" goes the expression.
asciilifeform: characteristically, nothing is ever heard , at least from asciilifeform's observatory, re the marvelous feats of degreasing , afterward
mircea_popescu: in other solipsisms, i threw out a rebours & l'innocente, because the suck, re-reading my zuleika rewrite instead, very happy with it.
mircea_popescu: they're not real until sold, rite ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: picture, d00d gets hold of a few coins, then... sells ( why? to buy diapers ? i dunno )
mircea_popescu: hey, wanna never have to kill anyone, learn to like the soylent.
mircea_popescu: it's why people fuck them, sometimes.
mircea_popescu: this is the way of sheep, to appear to be entirely aware.
asciilifeform: oddly enuff the sheep sometimes appear to be entirely aware.
mircea_popescu: they got grass to process.
mircea_popescu: these are all plied specifically as ways to plug the printing press circuitry, lest it leaks.
asciilifeform: ( the former is a pretty reliable way to lose one's shirt, in asciilifeform's experience )
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform rowed in the same galley as him, for a while under his command )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: diametric ? last i knew, he had too many childrenz, went to the same bottom of the sea as those folx tend to go to
mircea_popescu: or take pete d, or who the hell else. plenty of people.
mircea_popescu: like science, you know, there's not 1 scientist per 10k "sciences" academia departments.
mircea_popescu: truth be told, the republic isn't really for anyone.
asciilifeform: if memory serves, the survival record for n00bz that drift so quickly to the 'how do i pay rent from this' phase, is poor
mircea_popescu: there's a reason i do this level with girls. in between the "gotta eat", which readily and correctly is resolved by "eat out of the slave trough" and "i got ideas and things, which readily is correctly resoved by the whip, there's just too many failure modes.
asciilifeform: douchebag: with the sheer abundance of unsolved boojums, even in past few wks of log, it boggles my mind why you do not pick one up and make it yer own
mircea_popescu: it's true that it was geared towardsthe capacities and abilities of a presumptively independent republican lord, whereas you evidently need more hands-on tutoring and training. this isn't the end of the world, of course, but it is strictly uninteresting to me, as i expect to get a slavegirl out of that degree of involvement, and you don't pass the bioquals.
BingoBoingo: ^ When alf fixates on mysteries the result is NOT a sporadic comment every couple weeks
asciilifeform: douchebag: personally i'm not fixated on knowing how you pulled the particular trick
douchebag: However, I found it was much easier to just pick up prostitutes and throw them some $ to show tits and walk them through the process in person
douchebag: I started off just messaging girls on discord and seeing if they were interested in making money andgiving me a cut
asciilifeform: i find it interesting that google's approach to building cr50 ( 'hardcopy fpga' ) is actually ~moar~ diddleable, via this method, than if they had shipped ordinary fpga
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i dunno... i assume what quentin tarantino dresses jackson and travolta in, so they look like "a couple of dorks" << hehe
asciilifeform: ( so that they can -- lol -- sell moar non-ecc ram ... )
asciilifeform: recall ancient thread re semiconductor houses buying up hulls of sunken ww1 ships , cathedral roofs, etc
asciilifeform: ( the ~internal~ solder balls, which replaced ye olde gold whiskers for die to package linkage , that is )
asciilifeform: most real-world 'single event' seems to originate from alpha-emitting crapola in the chip solder balls, rather than the proverbial 'cosmic ray'
asciilifeform: on account of smaller capacitance of the circuit
asciilifeform: interestingly (and possibly surprisingly to the uninitiated) sram is actually ~moar~ sensitive to particle than dram
asciilifeform: aside from golden toilet satellite gear makers, it seems to be the fpga folks who most concern with 'single event upset' ( term of art for this item ) , as a flipped bit in fpga config , even down on earth, routinely translates into magicsmokerelease
asciilifeform: the only open documentation seems to be from semiconductor houses , there's some material from altera co, i did not bother to link ( who wants pdf ) , can prolly dredge it up again if somebody really wants
asciilifeform: ( tho with every shot there is a probability of, e.g., catastrophic latchup, short circuit , magic smoke )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 3MEv is , if the satellite folx are to be believed, squarely above the boundary where enuff energy is transferred to flip bit , but not so much as to thermonuke the semiconductor
asciilifeform: ( imho the gedankenexperiment of 'can haz sub-$10k 3MEv chip fuzzer?' deserves at least some log space )
asciilifeform: ( the latter apparently in perennial fashion among the moar moneyed 'make magazine' derps, 'look ma, i have fusion' )
asciilifeform: ~pocket-sized neutron sources with 0 rare metals have been demonstrated (e.g. penning's) but rather hightech artifact
a111: Logged on 2018-06-16 15:10 mircea_popescu: afaik no nm addressable items even exist. tho they should.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-16#1825995 << revisiting upstack -- the chip is by far easier to move, than the beam .
asciilifeform: ( in usa the inspector monkey dun even get a say, the machine's ocr thing turns on red light, and monkey is stuck filling out form )
mircea_popescu: i dunno... i assume what quentin tarantino dresses jackson and travolta in, so they look like "a couple of dorks"
asciilifeform: what would be 'normal clothes' ?
mircea_popescu: i think it's on trilema somewhere, customs dood was liek "but don't you have any normal clothes ?!"
asciilifeform: i've yet to see anybody anywhere give a shit re clothes
mircea_popescu: except girl ankle weights, aged cheeses, money, clothes that don't look like they're intended for the servants, and on it goes.
asciilifeform: ( woe be unto the tourist carrying sausage )
asciilifeform: usa seems to have the most permissive customs, pretty much anyffing that doesn't set off the dogs, is ignored
mircea_popescu: except when they don't, but sure.
asciilifeform: ( ru has possibly world's most fascist customs, recall the incident with the chinese teapots )
asciilifeform: they routinely turn away chinesium at the customs post there, on account of items like this cement.
mircea_popescu: which technically includes chinese cement, but the fanfic "fails to notice" thereby "it never happened"
asciilifeform: ( there are some lulzy countries like ru where anyffing that radiates moar than a banana, requires note from hitler )
asciilifeform: ships via the post ( in lead can )
asciilifeform: the former is a pretty blunt knife tho.
mircea_popescu: though ideally one with a microwave source rather than some rare metal capsule.
mircea_popescu: a surplus medical piece's not even a bad investment in capital goods then
mircea_popescu: afaik no nm addressable items even exist. tho they should.
mircea_popescu: anyway, collimation's the real problem here.
mircea_popescu: the success entirely depends on man-alone-ism
asciilifeform: enemy didn't set out to make impossible wall; simply tall enuff that the headache far exceeds what anybody's willing to bother with. and to date seems to have succeeded.
mircea_popescu: but, yes, in characteristical fashion the problem fritz chip proposes to solve is not solvable.
asciilifeform: the satellite folx have largely given up on making logic impervious to particles, they moved to tandemism instead
asciilifeform: particle diddling is great , in theory, as there is not really a practical defense against it
mircea_popescu: a proud flagship of the confederacy of dunces.
mircea_popescu: what if you simply clip something to the power and gnd pins and harmonics the hell out of it ? o wow, really ?
asciilifeform: this worked in the past, but cr50 seems to include boobytrap for voltage glitching
asciilifeform: gold standard in heavy industrial world is apparently fast neutron. ( thermal neutron also worx )
asciilifeform: slowed by the packaging, apparently
asciilifeform: problem is in other direction, very very little actually interacts with half mm of si slice
asciilifeform: in other archaeology: re particle glitching : apparently even hard (100kV+) xray does ~nuffin to current-day asics , needs -- ideally -- fast neutrons (good luck finding this in jungle conditions) or at the very least hard gamma (co-60 , possibly eu-152)
mircea_popescu: nope, ro is there.
asciilifeform: or only the engl transl