mircea_popescu: trinque this also gives teeth to the reject-invoice semantics, because you'd better fucking reject the ones you don't intend to pay
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kinda hard to picture what the pretense wins for'em
trinque: mircea_popescu: the invoice number thing is baked a little more deeply than what I just changed. what do you think of "!!pay-invoice lobbes" with no integer to mean "first received and outstanding" ?
mircea_popescu: there's been a definite uptick in schmucks trying to pretend they're me on fetlife. and i suppose similarly on obscure webshits i don't know about.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in barnum's 'suckers born erry minute', https://archive.li/3CVPx >> '...posing as admins, mods, or other key figures in the cryptocurrency world, posting messages that urged users to type a long command inside their Mac terminal, claiming to help with various problems..' etc
mircea_popescu: thereby freeing me from a) the need to dns-check and b) the need to communicate my kyc history every time i pay ?
mircea_popescu: trinque aaand if that can be relied upon, can i also rely on the semantics of !!pay-invoice lobbes 1 to pay the !~first curtrently outstanding~ invoice
mircea_popescu: and also, you wanna pay me the extra back in ecu in eurloa or keep it on books as prepayment for future auctions ?
mircea_popescu: so trinque could it be possible to not be possible to pay the same invoice twice cuz that's the point of invoices in the first place, they should die once paid
mircea_popescu: at first i looked for a weird bug that turns 010742 into 100800 ; buyt then it turned out he had already sent me an invoice, for that amt, back in oct 2017, which i re-paid
mircea_popescu: trinque lobbes in other weird : <deedbot> Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.00010742 ; which i paid, and which shows in ledger as me having paid him 00100800.
mircea_popescu: spyked evidently, if adalisp isn't tabletop systems engineering, then what is it.
asciilifeform: ( there's '9000+' possible ways to do this, and without changing pcb layout at all; already the thing can inspect fw, ram, etc. and reset the box if it doesn't like what it finds )
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.li/mt8rj << google, just as i expected, working on using cr50 to abolish the 'at least can boot own linux' 'hole' entirely
spyked: anyways, I am working on putting the ssh keys in the proper format and preparing the full report, there's some extra lulz to be extracted from this experience.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 10:15 spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days; if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now.
spyked: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812182 , I am happy to report that the may-june shithub harvest is over. sadly, I was about a month off in my estimations ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814257 ), a lesson for me to not trust initial figures: in the first days, my harvester was doing 3-4 keys/s, while a couple of weeks later teh githubs started rate-limiting, or worse, cutting off connections arbitrarily.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 22:34 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831410 << his work in progress parser doesn't handle end of file, so as of right now the error is normal
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831425 <-- to add to the list of weird behaviours: ada "get char" function doesn't eat newlines, so when typing a number alone, say: echo "42" | ./test_repl , nothing'll happen. user must add an explicit space after the number.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 17:24 mircea_popescu: i'm looking for roads into the os. could be from phf's emacs, could be from spyked 's lisp, could be from your arms, could be from whatever the fuck ends up working.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 16:52 mircea_popescu: spyked re http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html what if anything do you plan to do re memory management ? gc in particular, but not just.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831316 <-- I'd contemplated adding a small gc, but I gotta do some reading on the subj before making a decision. so it's still open to discussion, and I'll study the log threads while I'm at it.
diana_coman: lobbes, I don't follow; I paid the Q1 invoice http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802318 so what bundled?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 17:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'целый день пилили и рубили -- не смогли компьютер починить...' (tm)(r)( asciilifeform's brother )
mircea_popescu: WHERE IS MY ELECTRONICS HAMMER!!! NOT THAT ONE, TOO LIGHT. THE HEAVY ONE!
asciilifeform: ( and it dun solder back on, comes off right with the tracks , bestest chinesium )
asciilifeform: phf: if you're about to spudge it open, lift the kbd slowly, i tore the touchpad hirosi connctr straight off the pcb in mine
asciilifeform: similar story to the amd keys thing.
asciilifeform: possibly worth doing, if the hands can be found.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did describe a theoretical 'bake pad-for-pad replacement for cr50' variant.
mircea_popescu: i would certainly not mind a "fuck you -- power control replacement" item just for the fuckshow of it.
mircea_popescu: but i don't believe you when you say there was no cheese.
mircea_popescu: now, i believe if you say we ate all the cheese that was in that trap, no further point in fucking with it.
mircea_popescu: the other class, is that specific statements, such as the above, "item may not manage its own power" had opportunity to be stated.
mircea_popescu: obviousaly this was never ~needed~, but then again oil deposits were not ~needed~ either. yet in its wisdom mother nature has provided.
asciilifeform: but otherwise sure.
mircea_popescu: and along these lines, i'll dispute your ~0 to show for it. there's two classes of (very important!) things to show for it. one class is that now when i tell amstan he's the repugnant son of a stupid whore, there's loglines backing it up ; and when we discuss google as an instrument of evil, also.
asciilifeform: i dun disagree with the 'no own power' thing, if i were designing a lappy i'd make it something like a https://archive.li/SAqOz , separate box for battery etc.
mircea_popescu: maybe there's a cut in between. anyway, as a matter of principle -- laptop may not manage its own power.
mircea_popescu: fuck that. worthless sluts go on their kneesd.
mircea_popescu: no more of this "item manages its own power". it's insanity, and moreover very much of the same feather as "usg manages its own currency"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole stack has to be broken. if it takes giving up li ion, fine. whatever it takes.
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly the opposite way apple tries to go, with its "proprietary cables" bullshit.
asciilifeform: li-ion battery is not mircea_popescu's edison ups , where all you gotta do to charge is apply a voltage. it eats pulse train, with thermometer feedback, etc crapola.
asciilifeform: phf: what plug hole. thing charges from the usbc jacks, cr50 actually drives the charger logic.
phf: asciilifeform: right, and as far as we know right now cr50 doesn't have a remote/wifi access component. if it can't be wholly removed, maybe it can be "cut" (not necessarily by literally cutting the wire, but the direction of closing the plug hole)
asciilifeform: phf: fwiw i put my c101pa in the graveyard for nao, it was massive sink of time with ~0 to show for it
phf: oddly, unrelatedly and annoyingly the device reboots when i put it down too hard on the desk. i'm not slamming it, just a bit harder placement, it power cycles...
phf: asciilifeform: i was using the wrong arch archive, google blessed kernel boots with your user space
asciilifeform wrapping up a very gnarly ffa surgery, >2x speed boost. thx to ave1 for the gnat clues.
mod6: phf: ahhh, got it. thanks for the info.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 21:25 mod6: spyked: hey! pretty neat-o adalisp here. I tried it out, was able to build. I did get one error in the test.scm, any thoughts? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wXcA6/?raw=true
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831410 << his work in progress parser doesn't handle end of file, so as of right now the error is normal
asciilifeform: 'He seemed to try his FBI handler's patience when he suggested at the last minute that they switch from packing the explosives into remote-control cars and instead use a van.' << lol!!
BingoBoingo: ^ In the can't even death ray no moar dept
BingoBoingo: (Paypal suffers in this scenario because if they fail to deliver the chairs the idiots on this side surely won't blame their own brain damage)
BingoBoingo: mod6: It is too late for that to offer them any remedy. Through their website they presented an offer. I tendered payment. Either they deliver the fucking chairs or they and paypal suffer.
mod6: BingoBoingo: maybe someone can just pay someone via paypal and they can give you fiat?
mod6: spyked: hey! pretty neat-o adalisp here. I tried it out, was able to build. I did get one error in the test.scm, any thoughts? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wXcA6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: I give it 25% odds I get the chairs tomorrow versus 75% odds I don't get the chairs and they lose their ability to accept paypal
BingoBoingo: Eventually they bitch that I paid paypal (because I want chairs more than leftover paypal-olade from old country)
BingoBoingo: tldr: I am trying to buy two chairs of a locally ubiquitous style. This vendor advertised a low price. They didn't come during the delivery window... or the next day.
BingoBoingo: In other news, here's what you get from the local "leaders" in online commerce: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2xinx/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: tim17: What bring you around these parts?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 18:39 mircea_popescu: what's the delta between what you need and what BingoBoingo can do / has been doing ?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831382 << The big thing other than the statements and billing is ben_vulpes has done a lot of work managing the shared hosting machine.
mod6: BingoBoingo says he's on his way to the interwebs, was out shopping for hot water heaters...
mircea_popescu: i don't mind helping with the unobvious, but exactly what occured will occur again, "omfg, that was so obvious, where is it" sorta problem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's an impedance mismatch, sadly. i've not managed anything without extensive and reliable ops orgs in... well basically forever. reason i was an eff expert/consultant rather than manager was specifically that i never liked minding the middle.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if BingoBoingo can pick up the statements, that shrinks the delta; i've been flailing at transforming btc into amazon-compatible usd for the ssd shipment over the past week, he may be able to assist with that
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so is she walking on you, is the idea ?
mircea_popescu: he seems rather reliable to date.
mircea_popescu: what's the delta between what you need and what BingoBoingo can do / has been doing ?
mod6: Yeah, we're looking for L1, perhaps L2 if there is a good fit.
mod6: I'm not, but I understand that the man needs to help his family.
mircea_popescu: so then why are you encouraging it ?
mod6: ben_vulpes let us know that he needs to step back due to a family crisis. Not sure what more we can do, it's not ideal, but he's going to be wrapping up the report for June and transfering all of the rest of the information and other things to asciilifeform and myself.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831355 << dude, wake the hell up. you can't quit on a day's notice, what the fuck is this.
mircea_popescu: wait a second, this is what, at will employment ? don't even have to put in a full year or w/e, can just walk whenever the fuck it no longer looks pleasant ?
mod6: You were disconnected when the news was announced, if you didn't see mircea_popescu .
mod6: One thing that I'd also like to mention regarding the role for pizarro manager: We are looking to de-couple the manager role from the accounting portion. We're really looking for two roles at this moment. One person to handle the accounting role, and another person to handle the day-to-day management.
mod6: I'll stand in as acting manager for the time being, but now begins the official search for a new pizarro manager. Please let us know if interested in the role.
asciilifeform: sad to hear. duty of commander then falls to mod6 . asciilifeform will take over the sysop duties that ben_vulpes has been volunteering for. the search for treasurer is on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in principle. in practice, very difficult ( in asciilifeform's understanding, entirely impractical ) to avoid your model being poisoned at the heart by the retardation of the iron ( dma, interrupts, whole orchestra of horrors that prevent anything like effectual isolation of processes , esp in kernel, and -- more insidiously -- prevent sane model of computation even in head )
asciilifeform: they wrote strictly bicameral thing, '0' (kernel, do whatever to whomever) and '3' (on unix planet, aka userland, process lives in own map)
mircea_popescu: these reasons aren't obvious. rings, yes ?
asciilifeform: ( where there are, for obvious reason, no memory protections etc )
asciilifeform: ( to carry on the analogy, in x86's retarded memprotections, you can ~spy on cunt~ of neighbour. but not insert into, unless she is kept in your potato cellar. )
asciilifeform: only when she is kept with the same potatoes.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, seeing how all the "bug bounties" ever return is "o wait, off by 1, overwrote other guy's girl"
asciilifeform: even on 386 you won't (accidentally) overwrite other-guy's
mircea_popescu: because you overwrite ~your~ gurl's spleen, not some other guy's gurl's spleen.
asciilifeform: i have somewhat difficult time picturing the win from auto-overwriting. 'ooops you brought home 1 too many potatoes, you just overwrite gurl's spleen'
asciilifeform: what's the win from auto-wrapping , anyway
mircea_popescu: ~the kernel~. not userspace optionality.
asciilifeform: as reliable as the iron. and if you want to mod your pointers, you can, writers of e.g. nintendo, etc emulators, do
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how about the implict model we kept implicitly discussing, "program can ask for memory chunks, os will treat all writes to allocated memory as mod allocated size".
asciilifeform: all known approaches to gc , fall into 1 of these 3 cuts.
asciilifeform: there are 3 basic cuts of gc. 1) simplest -- no gc. you cons N times, and you're through. this is actually practical ( see the last coupla gc threads ) for scripting lang, where proggy runs for a coupla seconds, on inputs of known size, etc 2) 'stop & copy'. simplest gc, implemented in 1950s-1970s lisps, and by erry student in school. proggy runs out of space -- stops, finds what is alive and what is dead via refcounting (circular r
mircea_popescu: the original "let's unwind it from the FS end" didn't actually turn out capable to carry water, upon discussion.
mircea_popescu: i'm looking for roads into the os. could be from phf's emacs, could be from spyked 's lisp, could be from your arms, could be from whatever the fuck ends up working.
mircea_popescu: and what the hell is wrong with "let byte = 1010001101001011010111010111100" producing byte = 01111001, because 10100011/01001011/01011101/0111100
mircea_popescu: the notion of "program allocates memory with beginning and end" could very well go away.
mircea_popescu: (there's a lot of discussion of this topic in the logs, but to fish one example out of the many : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595771 )
mircea_popescu: spyked re http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html what if anything do you plan to do re memory management ? gc in particular, but not just.
trinque: minor niggle, http://ave1.org/tarpit/readme-2018-06-01.txt has the build script's name backwards
mircea_popescu: meanwhile all quiet on the weird front. https://78.media.tumblr.com/c2b692b8132b4cbf2ff59a6ab0c1e4ba/tumblr_p3ivxcMy6N1rwygwno1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: fromloper: you're on the air! who might you be ?
spyked: ^ phf, can you pl0x add this to the btcbase patch list? and http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/src/trilemabot/ ?
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/075-adalisp-prototype-ii.html << The Tar Pit - The return of the lost son of the father of adalisp, now in a genesis
hanbot: cheers lobbes, thanks for the service.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 02:29 esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831237 << interesting. seems like implementing the tags wouldn't be hard, but choosing the right ones would be
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831260 <- heh, like always; the summaries page looks useful to me
ave1: trinque, The directory for the script needs to absolute, i.e. ./build-ada.sh output --> ./build-ada.sh $PWD/output
a111: Logged on 2018-07-01 20:49 lobbes: incidentally, trinque, next time you're in the boiler room plox to try adding http://blog.lobbesblog.com/feed/ once more
deedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/arming-your-arm64-rockchip-gentoo-against-the-hordes-of-mindless-bots/ << lobbesblog - Arming your Arm64 RockChip Gentoo against the hordes of Mindless Bots
mircea_popescu: ie, just like the seals directory, except the seals aren't binary but whatever, a number.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 02:41 lobbes: with re: to curation, you could record the nick for everyone that submits a tag, then just allow others who view the tagged data to filter based on nick. (Other option of course would be a gpg challenge to submit a tag, but I doubt people will want to unsheathe their key every time they want to tag a thread.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831265 << nah, the correct approach is to leverage the wot and the v. basically, allow user to give weights to tag authors, obtain a weighted average tag cloud per that spec.
mircea_popescu: somewhere in logs /me explains the screw.
lobbes: with re: to curation, you could record the nick for everyone that submits a tag, then just allow others who view the tagged data to filter based on nick. (Other option of course would be a gpg challenge to submit a tag, but I doubt people will want to unsheathe their key every time they want to tag a thread.)
lobbes: indeed, the benefit of the tag method is that -you- don't have to personally tag each thread (not saying you can or cannot, just... it is an immense amount of effort).
esthlos: I'd be happy to be the librarian, though could imagine a system where the bot allows trusted users to "push" summaries or tags. curation is a necessity, but I don't doubt others can produce much better summaries than I
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 01:52 lobbes: pretty nifty esthlos. Didja see the !tag thread btw? I always thought that would be a good way to approach the 'chronicle the logs' problem >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-21#1437059
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831237 << interesting. seems like implementing the tags wouldn't be hard, but choosing the right ones would be
a111: Logged on 2018-07-01 21:22 asciilifeform: lobbes: iptables will work if you build the kernel ( there is a tarball with patched kernel on all pizarro rockchip boxen ) with the requisite flags
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 01:57 mircea_popescu: esthlos this then leads to the next stop, esthlos bot for reading out the content of a bullet :D
mircea_popescu: esthlos this then leads to the next stop, esthlos bot for reading out the content of a bullet :D
mircea_popescu: certainly as far as i recall one of the "nutty" things alf said early on that signalled him away from the crowd to my eye.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-21 07:43 mircea_popescu: hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ?
lobbes: pretty nifty esthlos. Didja see the !tag thread btw? I always thought that would be a good way to approach the 'chronicle the logs' problem >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-21#1437059
esthlos: also, my piece shoulda mentioned: about 900 days since the bitbet blowout, which is my starting place
mircea_popescu: o brother.
mircea_popescu: esthlos another item is that some bullet-addressing mechanism particularly useful on your summary page. put anchors ?
mircea_popescu marks 2019 june on his calendar for the followup
mircea_popescu: "My attempted pace will be to read 4 days of logs every day (3 older logs, and the present log). The average log takes me about 30 minutes to read (including following links), and there's a bit over 900 logs to catch up on, so I'll be caught up in 300 days, working 2 hours a day. Starting late is a bitch, ya know." << i am SO FUCKING CURIOUS how this works out!
mircea_popescu: oh god damned it, seems i ended up deleting them
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831179 << I have seen that item before, would be helpful now that I think about it, but the link returns "page not found"
asciilifeform: ( sadly i ~expect~ the laptop crapola, it has never worked reliably and prolly never will )
asciilifeform: ( clothing arguably went 'for phree', as it was used to pad the machine crates )
mircea_popescu: also, experience is the traveller's greatest aid.
asciilifeform: could prolly have bought changes of clothing there, even.
asciilifeform: the toothpaste, too..
mircea_popescu: could have just bought one there!
asciilifeform: every gram , in the end, was spoken for.
mircea_popescu: 2 battery unit as in, plugged at the same time.
asciilifeform: 2nd one , turned out, was breathing its last, suddenly wouldn't even charge, jettisoned it right there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re battieries, i usually buy/carry a whole bag. whats actually needed is a dual-battery item, so you can hotswap them.
asciilifeform: i'll admit to having played a crappy www-based game thing where you learn jp, while waking up and the kettle is boiling, but that's the closest thing
mircea_popescu: (speaking of joni malkovich, isn't it a wonder the instagram kids aren't spelling it "ironiy" iet ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831160 << hey, at least you're not out there playing vidja.
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, none of the planes that go to BingoBoingostan, appeared to have sockets ( maybe in firstclass, they do ? asciilifeform wouldn't know , has never sat there )
phf: i treat the x60 battery purely as a ups, which yes makes it pretty useless for travel. can break it out on amtrak or at a hotel that's pretty much it
asciilifeform: and it ain't as if the thing could run for moar than 2-3 hrs on a charge even when new.
asciilifeform: 1 problem is that the li-ion cells on the market, are all ~same chinese liquishit as what's in the aftermarket batteries to begin with
asciilifeform: i have a capacitative welder nao, will have to try hand-rebatterying at some point. ( will need to find how to reset the embedded charge monitor thing they've got )
asciilifeform: ( batteries have become a first class bitch, they last for 2-3 months , hundred charges or so and straight to rubbish bin )
asciilifeform: and i cannot in good conscience encourage other folx to buy it.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 20:56 asciilifeform: '...and this here is the airport wallet inspector master key jack. got a problem, terrorist ?'
asciilifeform: for asciilifeform it was originally wanted as a box for travel . really not imho suitable for the purpose, in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825108 .
phf: did you use the vmlinux.kpart from http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-veyron-latest.tar.gz by any chance?
asciilifeform: re: cr50, fwiw i have pretty much whole thing multiply massaged in ida, code/data mapped, got good % of the functions 'usefully' named. but so far no dice in finding a usable hole.
phf: oh i figured as much, but at least i had a chance to organize the workspace. download relevant bits, line up a bunch of discussion pages with mentions of mysterious utilities that take obscure flags
asciilifeform: ( my old userland doesn't give you a working nic, either )
asciilifeform: phf: it's ~useless to do just about anything with that box without the snake
phf: yeah, that's what it looks like. there's minimum activity from the usb on first check, and then blank screen
asciilifeform: phf: if you get a black screen, chances are that it didn't boot the kernel
phf: but i finally finished the cable, had time to test that it works, then left home for weekend and naturally forgot the cable. so running blind/not really getting any output
asciilifeform: it switches on the lcd light, etc
asciilifeform: however i used the evil kernel, haven't yet built a kernel for c101pa
asciilifeform: 'With a capacity of 24 GWh, this new battery factory should enable them to significantly increase production with a total battery production capacity of 60 GWh' << lulzy, sorta like measuring output of condom factory in liters
asciilifeform: ( the pilot plant kernel was built, believe or not, in hotel, right there on the coffee table, definitely needs some refinement )
asciilifeform: lobbes: iptables will work if you build the kernel ( there is a tarball with patched kernel on all pizarro rockchip boxen ) with the requisite flags
lobbes: incidentally, trinque, next time you're in the boiler room plox to try adding http://blog.lobbesblog.com/feed/ once more
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone's wondering WHY such a thing would even occur : it's because http://trilema.com/2017/remember-the-security-hole-automattic-refused-to-fix-back-in-2014/ ; and because the expectation that this works is ~so strong~ among the internet-moron-exploiters, they don't even bother to check that indeed mp-wp doesn't permit it. so they'll try and try and try to "ddos" this way.)
BingoBoingo: lobbes: props on the mod_evasive
BingoBoingo: Anyways, part of Venezuala's schtick historically is that they have been blockaded by Europeans before over debt defaults. They have to have seen Argentina's clusterfuck with euro missiles over the falklands. Every reason for them to buy from the Chicoms and Ruskies.
lobbes: Latest blog post with details >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/arming-your-arm64-rockchip-gentoo-against-the-hordes-of-mindless-bots/
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << In other news, I can now say that I definitively have an answer as to the issue (and, finally, a solution)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-01#1831056 << This is very credible. From mango weather to beaches to the largest proven reserves of oil, Vzla has the recursos naturales Argentina could only dream of.
phf: asciilifeform: it's a casino model, you sit down, play a few rounds, "win" a thousand dollars or so, lose some, win some more, all within a few thousand dollar range. on average you come out in the negative, but it's fun while it's happening.
asciilifeform: i.e. they pay ( promise to pay.. ? ) in lolcoin
asciilifeform: i work in the saeculum for the local dubloons, just enuff to pay the bills and keep the experimental budget topped up, like naggum et al. dun mean i particularly care to sell body for it off hours.
mircea_popescu: taxolade being part of the problem. but rather, it's company scrip, "Can use at company store".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely aware. even if google et al paid as promised ( something i'll believe when i see it with own eyes ) why the fuck would i want to trade a genuinely valuable find for taxolade.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, believe it or not but I have former university colleagues who work for google "because it pays well"; and I'm not at all surprised: while at uni they similarly went to microsoft's local "lab" licking whatever was available to lick; essentially I'd have been surprised if they did NOT work for google /microsoft /similar
mircea_popescu: part of the reason for 3) is that ~you don't actually accept fiat in payment~. whether you're aware of this or not. but if you did... take douchebag who does, "works well for him".
asciilifeform: afaik ~no actual dollars 'harmed in the making of this film'(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: the funny part is that the guy has a very high falooting "oh, cost of doing nothing" bla bla
asciilifeform: does'em the expected amt of good.
asciilifeform: phf: copied the layout blindly from vendor's example shitlinux
phf: asciilifeform: in "clean gentoo for rockchip" is there particular reason why boot sd card's gpt partition has a 8320 sector break between l1 and l2?
asciilifeform: 'not near keys' lol. perhaps today's the day phf ends up eating a faux key via his isp's brand-new www diddletron.
mircea_popescu: special top, of the eye pop.
mircea_popescu: anyway, maduro can afford rocketry installation. question is whether he has the sense to, or more of the same "not harvesting the teen cunt for sale because reasons" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not so many are needed to pump, and certainly not of the pantsuit class. mostly afaik russians do it.
mircea_popescu: word. if i were maduro there'd be co-ed open outcry. but... they're new, and besides orcs, whadda ya want.
mircea_popescu: will be so fucking hysterical if the 1st us carrier sunk is sunk by venezuela...
asciilifeform: if they can even still afford chinese rice.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-venezuela-mike-pence-20180628-story,amp.html
mircea_popescu: then again, apparently pops are disappopping.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vkI5t/?raw=true << the next phase, of that experiment, but this one will take a while.
asciilifeform: preliminary results : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/INfHc/?raw=true >> shits out 15360 sadprimez; somewhat surprisingly, 0 pops from these.
BingoBoingo: On the other hand, my practiced experience knowing how and when to appropriately yell at the tv during sportsballs has helped to build rapport with the locals.
BingoBoingo: Still haven't figured out night photography worth a damn, but the atmosphere here over not getting eliminated was roughly Normal US City wins a league champsionship or College town beats opponent it should not have (Mizzou-Oklahoma 2010) level celebration.
mircea_popescu: tbh i didn't think they possibly could.
mircea_popescu: teh ticos are SO FUCKING PROUD they scored a coupla times...
BingoBoingo: It explains so much about the Uruguayos and the Argentines though. They broke their cultures to succeed in scamsport.
BingoBoingo: In other news so far this city of concrete appears to be standing after Uruguay qualified for the quarter finals.
asciilifeform: in other noose, several 100k 'laughable primes' ( i.e. close to powers of 2, powers of 2 with various value of upper byte, etc ) being generated and added to phuctor 8ball db as we speak ( item discussed in late may, but stuck on conveyor )
asciilifeform: another score for 'sapir-mircea_popescu' , seems like.
asciilifeform: in other archaeological holyfuqs, the wolfmen have ~ergative case~. like basque and chukcha.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic: The Bitcoin Foundation presents - The State Of Bitcoin Address for June: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-July/000303.html
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, it's blue collar mainstay, "while you're here working the little lady's having you the milkman's kids"
asciilifeform: i thought it came from their actual life
mircea_popescu: more. i think it started as a warrant officer wank/fanfic in the 70s.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in practical ways and means for the worker's party, https://store.adam4adam.com/inception-fuckhole-sheath_3312.html
BingoBoingo: And the celebration seems to have calmed. Smoke smells are fading
BingoBoingo: And they are lighting fireworks. can smell one dumpter
mircea_popescu: "how could the world have no room for us grunts anymoar!!! NOTPOSSIBRU!!!"
mircea_popescu: her how to re-engineer society so that it gives less opportunity for the degenerate to be elevated to alpha status."
mircea_popescu: "What is important, though; is that its not womens fault. Its not like they have changed. Women always have, always will do what they believe those they consider alpha wants them to do. Thats all there ever was with them. If they behave in a degenerate, suicidal manner, its because that is the signals they are getting up from todays alphas. Hence, the relevant problem is not how to re-engineer women, but rat
mircea_popescu: guess what, my friends and i have mostly come to agree that the sort of dork who says "usually always" belongs in someone's basement anyway.
mircea_popescu: ahhh this whinerticle is so much fun. "My friends and I have all come to realize that the financial cost for infidelity is usually always borne on the man. "
mircea_popescu: ha. that was teh golden standard for that whole slice of the globe huh
phf has memories of the army belt with star, applied
mircea_popescu: most people prefer a designated implement so as to not threaten kid with themselves.
mircea_popescu: what;s your implement of infantile domestic discipline anyway ? cuz can always tell junior, "in costa rica they got spanking spoons that stand taller than you!"
diana_coman: ahahah, now that instantly created this image of mircea-yaga with an apron and the huge spanking spoon
mircea_popescu: the grease spots, for the record, were from where i oiled the large wooden spanking spoon. so very kafka-craftian indeed.
mircea_popescu: sooo i just spent five minutes watching naked girl (well, except for the gloves) fight grease spots on floor.