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mircea_popescu: the sources.
mircea_popescu: the evident disadvantage is that this only works if we can rely on l1 to keep a secret ; which means things (such as, that it can't be as big, for instance).
mircea_popescu: 3. very clearly quashes the idiocy of rms-ism AND ers-ism ("open source" bla bla), and makes the strong political statement that indeed there is a difference between nose breathers and mouthbreathers and so on.
mircea_popescu: the new c-s protocol) ;
mircea_popescu: this release paradigm has the advantages that 1. permits us to control binaries, which means stuff like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-16#1834888 (which i'm very much impressed with, btw) ; 2. permits to reserve some interest for the author, because the strategic thinking over at minigame is that we'll want client competition (from skinning all the way to all the way) and remuneration by installs (hence all that hash dance in
mircea_popescu: as we're contemplating an eulora client rewrite, i am contemplating the following code release paradigm : client author a) releases code encrypted to l1, signed and deeded (so basically, gpg -aer asciilifeform -r ave1 -r etc) ; b) releases precompiled binaries for allcomers.
mircea_popescu: in other news, here's something i want to put before the lordship :
diana_coman: asciilifeform, given the amount of those around it would seem we are on VERY fertile ground here
mircea_popescu: they may not even have the packages. might get away with copying something, but...
diana_coman: I guess I'll need to dig into the configure script to figure this one out if nobody saw it before, huh
diana_coman: and for added lol, same configure on current server reports same there BUT it says zlib is fine, ugh
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, me above lol. "is there a libgl ? yes. is it located somewhere ? no."
mircea_popescu: it was the lulz of all time, /me attempted demonstrative "here, you stupid bitch, this is how computers work" only for the thing to explode, spent day fighting obscura before had build back in working order.
asciilifeform: ( possibly we aren't quite there yet, and it still links something dynamically? )
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu , even if one were to build ldd on cuntoo, the only thing it'll ever output on locally-build bins is 'not a dynamic executable' .
mircea_popescu: lmao, "diogenes of the single candle", what gems lie burried in teh logs!
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:42 mircea_popescu: if anyone has serious issues with this better get a portage candidate up asap so it can be imported when cuntoo comes, because otherwise it's as dead as the woodchipped people.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-13#1431516 << in "totally forgotten" histories of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834762 ; who ever knew the shape of today is the necessary result of the failures of thrive of yesteryear.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-13 16:22 mircea_popescu: nice work with the html parser, how's it going ?
mircea_popescu: in other upbeat news, i finally figured out esthlos 's byline. leibniz huh.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 16:22 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834764 << trinque do you have a list of items you observed to be broken under musl ? or is this still in the works
BingoBoingo: And for the logs the steaks in question are 402 grams of entrecot, cost of 130 pesos
BingoBoingo: Unlike the attempt at a maritime adventure, this effort has time on its side
BingoBoingo: Both cuntries are within 1,000,000 warm bodies of each other
BingoBoingo: And the Uruguayos at the hostel were all in favor of unifying with Croatia before 2022
BingoBoingo: Cooking steaks for the Peruana to celebrate the end of nationality as a thing
BingoBoingo: Well, what would the GNU is gnu/lumix be without gnostic dilemmas?
mod6: In other news, BingoBoingo has accepted the position as Pizarro Manager, and officially will take over in this role after the August Statement is published in the first few days of September. Congrats to BingoBoingo!
mod6: This is the current Pizarro BTC balance ^.
mod6: Pizarro's bitcoins have been sent to my deedbot account in the amount of: 6.21445021 BTC
BingoBoingo: <trinque> some of this work won't have to be done completely ab initio; there are musltronic distros out there that can at least act as source material for research, alpine and void linux for example. <<As far as I can tell Alpine is a musl build of gentoo, comparatively clean. Void on the other hand is more like a tampon. Bloody inside and out
mircea_popescu: in carlin's own words, "that tends to hold them for about half an hour."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the amusement files, MistressCrow20 20F Mistress 29m "How about YOU drop everything and kiss the ground in front of my feet? Im not kidding at all." LordMPofTMSR "No, because you're female."
mircea_popescu: good thing they got trilema to crib
asciilifeform: 'Hank Prunckun is associate professor of intelligence analysis at the Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security, Charles Sturt University, Sydney' blah etc.
asciilifeform: in other heathen wtf's, https://archive.is/Ovauh >> 'Covert radio communications: a viable tactic for international terrorists?'
mircea_popescu: doesn't it amstan , you dirty little whore daughter of a stupid mother.
mircea_popescu: also imported by reference, all the "oh, we're moving to webkit, it's so great and good and btw folks, totally A TECHNICAL DECISION OK!!!" then google drops webkit moves on to their in-house shitpile, oprea "dev" team is like... o yeah totally!
asciilifeform: google et al not only gutted it, but arranged for the orig src to be buried in cement, for the obv reason.
mircea_popescu: imo that's the correct cut here : not "oh, is it the 1995 safari-clone by nowegians" but "oh, is it the thing before or after google gutted it"
asciilifeform: afaik it was the very last.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc that's the last one where it can even be claimed to be a thing, afterwards moved to being skin on chrome.
asciilifeform: so yes you could run it. tho on x86/amd64 strictly, naturally, afaik there was never a build for arm etc
mircea_popescu: here included by reference, the "acid3 test" lulz etc. who even remembers 2007 anymoar.
mircea_popescu: afaik they were, even as far as the 10.x series ; but this i've never put to the cuntoo test.
asciilifeform: ( i assumed mircea_popescu was speaking of ye olde norwegian ministry of telecom or wherever 1MB closed x86 opera, rather than the 'modern' abortion )
asciilifeform: if not -- then guaranteed bomb
asciilifeform: i meant 'any'. afaik the only remaining graphical www thing that builds even on asciilifeform's ban-flagged gentoo ( not even speaking of musl ) is old firefox.
mircea_popescu: i've conducted a review of extant browsers ; outside of opera ~none work worth a shit ; and in the lulziest of manners, eg, firefox 45 crashes about 4.5 times more frequently than firefox 10. and so on.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 11:18 asciilifeform: trinque's gcc, btw, is exactly as was printed on the crate, x86_64-gentoo-linux-musl 4.9.4
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just as long as i can still use cuntoo to show cunts their cunts too!
mircea_popescu: anyway, i expect neither gtk nor kde work, and i expect contrary to postgresetc discussion above, nobody likes any of 'em even vaguely enough to import.
asciilifeform: the 2 major ones i specifically recall in logs were 'screen' and emacs
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:45 trinque: musl will "break" where it refused to implement glibc feature-creep outside the posix libc standard. it's a stricter implementation.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834764 << trinque do you have a list of items you observed to be broken under musl ? or is this still in the works
asciilifeform: well they're both 'vintage 4.x'
mircea_popescu: anyway, it turns out the lib built ~is~ 64 bit, contrary to my assumption that error messages are useful.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:45 trinque: musl will "break" where it refused to implement glibc feature-creep outside the posix libc standard. it's a stricter implementation.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834748 << trb node is one of the few items that ~can't~ be backed up in the usual sense. because what you get if you just blindly copy is a shitup not a backup.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:42 mircea_popescu: if anyone has serious issues with this better get a portage candidate up asap so it can be imported when cuntoo comes, because otherwise it's as dead as the woodchipped people.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 15:38 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check this out : i got a bundle which compiles to 64 bits except one lib, which compiles to 32 bit and then i get " wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Program exited with code 0177". the configure for it manages to ignore both enable-lib64 --disable-lib32 and CFLAGS=-m64 CXXFLAGS=-m64 LDFLAGS=-m64 sets of flags. you ever heard of such ?!
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is not "blockchain technologies" shitheadery, it's precisely ~adnotated data~, lisp style. there's no meaning to it outside of context.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 14:56 asciilifeform: and whole concept of 'backing up trb' strikes me as wrongheaded -- the most effective backup is simply a 2nd node.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834748 << trb node is one of the few items that ~can't~ be backed up in the usual sense. because what you get if you just blindly copy is a shitup not a backup.
trinque: to take a specific example, my mention of musl distros isn't an excuse for anyone to blindly pilfer patches and then sign because "built!!"
trinque: 100% agree, and appreciate the underscoring of it. no "hobbyist approach" will work.
mircea_popescu: trinque im not saying it's impossible, by any means ; but it'll have to be either done or not done, there's no "i'm not waht i do i'm what i dream". like a wedding, "anyone wanting postgres/whatever speak now or stfu fe&e"
diana_coman: trinque, cheers! glad it wasn't worse there really (will see for the rest :D )
trinque: some of this work won't have to be done completely ab initio; there are musltronic distros out there that can at least act as source material for research, alpine and void linux for example.
trinque: musl will "break" where it refused to implement glibc feature-creep outside the posix libc standard. it's a stricter implementation.
mircea_popescu: if anyone has serious issues with this better get a portage candidate up asap so it can be imported when cuntoo comes, because otherwise it's as dead as the woodchipped people.
mircea_popescu: usualyl when you end up going into codepile to ablate idiocy you discover the broken glass
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:09 diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834507 << read and enjoyed your porting process for mysql. this will be how things go. many items already have patched ebuilds in the musl-overlay, which your system is using atop traditional portage. some wont, and will need to be fixed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check this out : i got a bundle which compiles to 64 bits except one lib, which compiles to 32 bit and then i get " wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Program exited with code 0177". the configure for it manages to ignore both enable-lib64 --disable-lib32 and CFLAGS=-m64 CXXFLAGS=-m64 LDFLAGS=-m64 sets of flags. you ever heard of such ?!
asciilifeform: you can approximate the effect with dumpblock/eatblock.
asciilifeform: i.e. at ~max speed permitted by the disk writes.
asciilifeform: ( if we had the 'configurable checkpoints thing' discussed 2y ago, this would sync in 3 days or so )
asciilifeform: and whole concept of 'backing up trb' strikes me as wrongheaded -- the most effective backup is simply a 2nd node.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i've found that trb state can't be effectively backed up without stopping the node ( otherwise indices turn to barf . ) how do you do yours ? periodic stops ?
asciilifeform: nas, rather
shinohai: pogo also makes a handy local binhost, for those who don't wish to build the same 500 packages when trying new stuff on gentoo.
shinohai: nah, i made own setup after the arch linux install, just do a gentoo chroot once in to sort of unify my setup
asciilifeform: shinohai: didja bake own nat thing for it, or used the vendor's shitware ?
shinohai: Thankfully, pogo turned out to be great NAT device, I run a mech hdd in the dumb-as-bricks vertical hdd slot, and a samsung t3 portable ssd from the top usb connector.
asciilifeform: stupidly expensive, too, for what they do.
asciilifeform: shinohai: afaik these all use 'software' raid
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834717 << there's really not a substitute for 'screen' if you're leaving ~interactive~ cmd line processes in background (e.g. shells) , aha
BingoBoingo: But yes, I am on location. My name is on the fiat side paperwork. The incentives are lined up. Make Uruguay, Great Again!
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I am inclined to take the gig
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 00:13 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834333 << I'll state for the record that I consider myself largely unqualified for the role (plus my hopper overfloweth atm)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834346 <-- fwiw, I believe I'm also ill-equipped for this job. I'd only trust a spyked to get this right after he's delivered on at least a couple of self-directed projects, and even then... I need a wee bit more experience under my belt. on this note, /me finds http://trilema.com/2018/technology-and-governance/ to be a good reread.
asciilifeform: re 'screen' -- funnily enuff for many yrs asciilifeform did not use it aside from as rs232 terminal a la 'kermit'; for the absolutely fucking vital item of 'leave my bg processes alone when i disconnect', used simply 'nohup', which comes with afaik errry unix since system5
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:09 diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself
mircea_popescu: diana_coman fucking hysterical, whole package dead because some 'my_print_stacktrace' function ? printing is the death of "open source".
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the only marginally complicated thing about statements is tracking the customer equity line and invoicing for the month-to-month customers, i will hand over my notes and assist you should you take the gig
ben_vulpes: for instance (attn asciilifeform, mod6, BingoBoingo), while reviewing books with mod6 recently i realized that i calculated s.mg's lease cost from the machine purchased from s.nsa (which we got bare, no storage), and not from the cost of the machine stuffed full of disks.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 02:43 asciilifeform: imho BingoBoingo is ideal for the job.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 23:47 mircea_popescu: leaving aside the quite obvious question of why would one even entertain a wanna-be bitcoin thing that's uppity enough to not be here in the first place.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 01:56 mircea_popescu: did the clickbank account ever stand up ? etc etc, i dunno how executing on the lenghty list of items in the log these pasts month could put one behind.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834379 << clickbank is fiat-only, and as for the "btc affiliate programs" http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828510
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/07/and-they-said-you-cant-take-it-with-you/ << The Whet - And they said you can't take it with you.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/adventures-con-velas-and-other-things/ << Trilema - Adventures con velas, and other things.
mircea_popescu: if they were capable of thought they wouldn't have the problems of idiots.
mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...
asciilifeform: dunno, douchebag-style, bang on the door and exclaim 'why me' etc
asciilifeform idly wonders how long it'll take the drummed-out f-students to notice
BingoBoingo: And dude *likes* Vancouver. Like what the fuck
asciilifeform: in his words, lol, 'I never did make it down for one of MP’s famous conferences, then he stopped having them a few years back. So wut do.'
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 16:09 mircea_popescu: !!rate pete_dushenski -10 http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/
BingoBoingo: Of the worst kind. Made an alt-perl and then would not stop breaking it
shinohai: https://jobs.freenode.net/all-jobs <<< the budding freenode job board with 6 whole jobs for webshit enthusiasts
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/israel-bombs-their-gaza-concentration-camp-again/ << Qntra - Israel Bombs Their Gaza Concentration Camp Again
asciilifeform: https://archive.fo/LKTNN << in other recent lulz. guido van rossum (author of python) throws in the towel.
BingoBoingo: The morcilla won't make itself
BingoBoingo: Well, everyone was warned in February during the last bleeding
mircea_popescu: smoking nervously in the corner, cazalla mother[m] valentinbuza zineKing zx2c4 etc.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated znort987 1 at 2012/12/12 18:34:54 << he's in the MPEx faq
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated vandroiy 1 at 2012/09/01 22:00:35 << Risked 5k of his own bitcoins to help a bunch of forum retards see the light.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated teppy 1 at 2012/09/28 16:40:53 << dev of a tale in the desert (mmorpg)
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated jossi 1 at 2018/04/13 22:09:13 << ukrainian-french girl working for the rich of nyc. wiwa la rebolucion!
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated herbijudlestoids 1 at 2017/06/03 04:25:59 << missed on all the things.
mircea_popescu: !!rate esthlos 2 At the rate he's going, promising lordship candidate.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mats 2 at 2015/04/07 21:29:49 << http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 ; helping people get pogos, stuff.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated elaineo 2 at 2017/09/26 04:47:52 << somehow manages to write unirritatingly while also academia. i have yet no theory as to how this is possible.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated dooglus 2 at 2016/03/07 09:36:24 << ran one of the best dice sites of all times, before being torpedoed by fiat government posturing. trb testing.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated mike_c 4 at 2016/05/17 03:26:26 << the right honorable lord c.
shinohai: ah the good ol mp join/part bannhammer
a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 13:24 brazilish: i'm trying to running trb on the cheapest possible setting
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834457 << ftr this is a ~very~ Bad Idea . for instance , i do not know in what starvation-cheapo hoster brazilish put his node, but if it was aws he will find that he cannot connect to ~any of the l1 folx's trb nodes, most people ban aws ip range whole
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you know, ~all that is *already* in the logs; but I don't know what sort of shoving and pushing and prodding will get him to really search for it
asciilifeform: brazilish: fwiw my personal everyday-use node is a box the size of my fist, cost about 100 $ ( not incl. disk ) , runs off a 12v line
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834483 << just about anything with 2GB or more memory will work -- trb is not really cpu-bound . a 1TB disk will last you 3-5 yrs until fills. ideally ssd ( though the exact penalty from using mechanical disk is not yet known, see last night's thread ). if ssd -- i recommend samsung's, cheapo ssd typically burns after 1-2 yrs of trb wear.
diana_coman: I still have to go through the rest and I'll probably report as I go
diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it was the first; but also quite an important one
asciilifeform: diana_coman: was mysql the only eulora component that misbehaved on musl ?
brazilish: problem: downloaded asciilifeform_blackhole_reads.vpatch and placed in patches folder, same for the sig file in .seals, then running ./v.pl p v trb054 makefiles.vpatch, but i don't get the patch in the src files
diana_coman: you can ask; I don't see the benefit to either of us in an answer
brazilish: can i ask the specs of this one and if you remember how much has spent syncing?
diana_coman: and a serious dose of log reading seems required; do your searches, gather what answers you get from them , write them in a post on your blog and THEN if it's still unclear come and ask, with a link "here's what I figured out, here's what I still have no idea on"
brazilish: diana_coman: i saw on the foundation site that you have an advertised node
diana_coman: brazilish, nothing wrong with experimenting as long as it's done with a clear plan and then reported on
brazilish: so wanted to stay on the cheap side
brazilish: btw, I did my research about the evil of a virtual machine setup, but I'm just doing it to test a running node before having bare metal at my premises
diana_coman: brazilish, the fastest way to sync short of feeding the blocks directly is with the agression patch
diana_coman: uhm, search for "trb node" in the logs - that's about the closest you'll get
brazilish: and approx how much time the initial sync needs with these specs
diana_coman: this is not even a bad project for starting, so go for it, just do it properly and publish the write up
diana_coman: brazilish, it will get slower; iirc there is even some known further slow down ~300k ; that doesn't mean though that more cores will do anything; before you attempt throwing more cores at it or better disks or whatever, you need to understand *what* causes this slow down; so if you are serious about it, go and investigate and see where is the bottleneck
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, going to get some caffeine in me and make it there
diana_coman: iirc no, it does not; did you read the log for yesterday?
brazilish: i followed the procedure on thebitcoin.foundation
diana_coman: brazilish, did you get the timing patch and noticed lower timings or how is that "painfully slow to process blocks" evaluated?
diana_coman: there, I rated you so you should be able to self-voice now
brazilish: then added a 30 usd 300GB virtual drive to store the blockchain, and started the syncing process
diana_coman: brazilish, the good approach there is to gather data on that, publish it with discussion and link it here
diana_coman: there is that "I'm too poor to afford cheap things"
brazilish: i'm trying to running trb on the cheapest possible setting
brazilish: the real bitcoin node
diana_coman: and as a customer of Pizarro I'd be very happy to know that BingoBoingo takes on the management role and gets it moving;also, re directions to my mind this forum here is a great place to come and ask about scary/unknown stuff *early*
mod6: i need the man to stay content with his situation, he's the boots on the ground.
mircea_popescu: mod6 seriously, pushing people into things, scary things especially, is what the job is. fuck him, let him swim already. what is this, the girlscouts ?!
BingoBoingo: Last time I tried the shaving it was maybe a week and a half before I had straight out of Africa shaving bumps
mod6: BingoBoingo: I'm gonna let you think about it for a few days if you need. Think about if you really want to take on major parts of this role. I think you ~can~ do it. But, I don't want you to feel overwhelemed or pushed into it either.
trinque: trinque, beard also. the metaphor went sideways on me!
BingoBoingo: <trinque> actually fuck the shave, wildcatters grow beards << This is true
trinque: actually fuck the shave, wildcatters grow beards
mircea_popescu: the more you believe that, the more the day-to-day instructions books grow...
mod6: And I agree that the man could be good at it. But I tend to believe a man when he says "hey, I need instructions, day to day".
BingoBoingo: Well, the strict guidance thing was before ben_vulpes gave it a shot
asciilifeform: d00d survived the seven hells, fleas, brazilians.
asciilifeform: imho BingoBoingo is ideal for the job.
BingoBoingo: Since leaving the noise of the hostel that possible reality has been easier to hear.
BingoBoingo: mod6: A fairly hands off (i.e not day to day situation) report to the board situation is fine
mircea_popescu: the difference between these two is lost on me, seeing how the lords are at least sufficiently acquainted with the situation and sufficiently possessed of their own wits to volunteer if they feel it.
mod6: And to the point of BingoBoingo, he has said before that he wants direction from a manager. As he said earlier tonight.
mod6: I sent out personalized letters to two Lords asking if they wanted to fill the role. I didn't sit back and kick it.
mircea_popescu: because there's problems here, and you're not helping yourself with the approach.
mircea_popescu: ima ask again the thing i asked you lot when you came up with the batshit insane options arrangement : do you think he's not a real person because he's actually DOING things, real things, scary real things such as fucking venezuelans, and real people are only the meditative kind ?
mircea_popescu: 2. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831375 STILL didn't get a direct answer, two weeks later. this "withdraw into busywork" reaction to uncomfortable realities may work (it doesn't work, but subjectively may seem to work) in lines typically well fit to the autistic. but as things stand here it's at least mildly insulting to BingoBoingo, that he's the dood on the ground and you're somehow looking right throguh him.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what the impediment is here. looky here : 1. you want to write a ~new~ job description, now. the job isn't new, so where's the old job description ? if you didn't have one then, why would you have one now, and if you didn't think you need one then, why would you need one now, and if it didn't occur to you to write it then why are you qualified to write it now ?
mod6: To your question "hire someone that what ?" : That manages the day-to-day task for BingoBoingo, does accouting tasks (reporting, invoicing, payments), can possibly lend a hand with sysadmin tasks. That sort of thing.
mod6: And BingoBoingo, yeah, that's the plan. I'll do the best I can at this, but the more I learn about what was all involved day-to-day with ben_vulpes, the more I'm worried that I'm ill-equiped to do this work.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I understand if this doesn't happen right away, but eventually, position will need to be filled. The offer stands, even if it stands for some time. << One way to handle this is... Take over what ben_vulpes on an interim basis and hand off tasks you don't have time for.
asciilifeform: ( as with the most recent one )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: standing up boxen, to the degree that it can be done telerobotically, is asciilifeform's .
mod6: I understand if this doesn't happen right away, but eventually, position will need to be filled. The offer stands, even if it stands for some time.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834322 << this is a fine question. what's the envisaged happy ending here ? << As I was saying, was hoping to hire someone.
BingoBoingo: Well, pizarro has the dedicated boxes that require invoicing and the occasional standup. The rockchips that require invoicing and the occasional standup. Then there's the shared hosting server which is beefy as hell and runs a very lean gentoo.
trinque: the fact that wallet features benefit greatly from a live and healthy pizarro is also not lost on me, which is why I jumped to be (afaik) live customer #1
trinque: beyond that, what's not clear is whether management means directing, or doing a lot of hands-on work on machines. it's likely I have little time for the former, but have absolutely no time for the latter.
BingoBoingo: I am comfortable taking tech direction from alf. If mod6 wants to take the purse from ben_vulpes, that's a board.
BingoBoingo: I have one a localbitcoins account, started flirting with the alt-alt, and do have this lengthy list of items to push on
mircea_popescu: did the clickbank account ever stand up ? etc etc, i dunno how executing on the lenghty list of items in the log these pasts month could put one behind.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nothing, updates from the funnel mines should be starting
mircea_popescu: trinque's provided a turnkey accounting solution, you do a !!ledger once a month, reconcile it with ops list and there you go, accounting's done.
BingoBoingo: lobbes et al: I'll keep taking stuff on my plate, but the reason Pizarro isn't BBISP is... A need for more direction.
mircea_popescu: i'm about as impressed of this autistic waste as of pete_dushenski's latest lists of important bitcoin posts he thinks he's made, and whatever other monkey-emperors of "all they survey".
mircea_popescu: because the moron utterly has to http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ ; can't simply come fucking here, register a key, do something useful as ordered. no, none of that, business school produces more special cuntlets than miss america competitions, he gotta sing his own fucking tune. because this is actually possible, every dick, tan and harry can come up with marching tunes.
lobbes: asciilifeform: oya, I've squirreled away that link to the timer patch you dropped earlier in the logs. I'm thinking I'll apply it to my node once I get auctionbot2.0 through the conveyor, after which I can publish more concrete data.
mircea_popescu: (large part of the problem being, of course, that management folk are very disused to any sort or kind of actual work ; matter-of-coursedly display bizarre remunerative expectations on one hand and middling skills at busyworking/clockwaiting doubling an appetite for actual work verging on nil.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834332 << she's technical rather than management track, also. much like you, and presumably a lot of other people in l1. which is a fundamental weakness we've been copacetically not really trying to address.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834322 << this is a fine question. what's the envisaged happy ending here ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 21:36 diana_coman: in practice one single person has only 2 hands, that's the thing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834316 << hence by extension of http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/ , the harem as an economic necessity. the marginal cost to make bread for 12 as opposed to 3 is sub 50% ; the marginal benefit from having local taylor to make you a dress while you make bread...
mircea_popescu: turns up top of the search if you try and find "zil fridge"
a111: Logged on 2015-02-08 05:44 mircea_popescu: http://media.englishrussia.com/new_images//zilmuseum-50.jpg << exactly the one in middle
asciilifeform: mid 300s is iirc where the packed-to-the-gunwales 'stress test'(tm)(r) blox begin.
asciilifeform: lobbes: your node sounds like a good candidate for the timer patch (i.e. determine, why not syncs, is it block db delay, or it somehow gets nuffin from peers, or which.)
lobbes: seemed to hit the wall right around height 350000
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