mod6: either you're WoT, or not.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-10 07:01 adlai: at the risk of sounding like a lightly-chipped (for the broken don't spin too good) record: i'd be glad to rent the new rockchip. i promise this time to think before i type, and not play the shitty music too loud.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-8-10#412082 << adlai : folx on mircea_popescu's list of the officially sad, can't lease boxen, i thought this was clear
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840813 << the only thing funnier than the hotel rectal probing and post-party arrests they do, is how the patients continue to show ( and pay, what, 5-10k usd, for the privilege ) !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but anyway, to answer the q : sure.
mircea_popescu: sucks for the reich. i just come from one, had brass key for the door and steel key for the safe on the ring.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 15:04 mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840837 << afaik not 1 single hotel, neither the posh kind nor the cockroach pit sort , remaining in the reich with old-fashioned brass keys
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840833 << i expect we'll publish buncha pr0n of the thing, once it starts working
mircea_popescu: none of this is "at will". if i rent a room, i bought the option, that's that.
mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 13:15 asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840797 << the zekstories from teh zekzone ever more zeklulzy. ZEKS!!!
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:22 mircea_popescu: but this paradigm where "we will cater to the peniless but opinionated female herd, instead of the rich and actually powerful white male" fucked them over.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself.
mircea_popescu: read the thing quoted. it says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787190 for a fucking reason. that reason is, that for as long as freenode persists in "code of conduct" and "women aren't meat" and assorted nonsense, the republic is wealthy, and the republic is powerful, and yes someone will pay so that hilary "inexplicably" loses "the election".
mircea_popescu: and the average girlfriend is fat. what's that do ?
kaniini: the average idiot flooding freenode is a dumb kid with no money
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/ exists for a reason ; and that reason is that computers have actually reached the place where they're indistinguishable from the "anonymous" inter-neet.
mircea_popescu: how ? lol. you just make the accts now, sell later.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:20 mircea_popescu: sooo... big deal, 1 sent girl to buy a bagful of phone numbers. they cost, no joke, $2.5 here. EXCEPT, of course, they want your "cedula", you know, "por activacion".
kaniini: then you could set +r 1d
kaniini: the account login message could be trivially extended to send registration time
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:25 mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-10 07:01 adlai: at the risk of sounding like a lightly-chipped (for the broken don't spin too good) record: i'd be glad to rent the new rockchip. i promise this time to think before i type, and not play the shitty music too loud.
asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search'
asciilifeform: ould be prosecuted if he stepped foot in the hotel again... "Sir, your speech has consequences so you better think about that in the future before you threaten," was another comment from the security team.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the heathen circus, https://archive.is/DD2uo >> '...Google engineer...sorting out the Spectre security hole mess...went to his hotel room in Caesars Palace and found his room key no longer worked. When he went to reception to find out what the problem was he was met by two security guards who took him to the room, told him pick up his stuff and escorted him off the premises. He was also given a written warning that he w
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform entirely possible they actually do, say very narrow keyspace.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 02:26 kaniini: the huaweis use static kexinit data too it seems
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840780 << can't be ~entirely~ static seedturd , or they'd all have exactly same key; gotta be something moar along the lines of the debian lulz
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 01:42 kaniini: if they are non-prime that would be an easy thing to check
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840769 << nonprime e per se dun make for simple break ( tho it tends to go along with other sad, which is why i mark'em in phuctor )
asciilifeform: Mocky: cpp proggy always rides on libc. witness trb, the orig experiment with musl here.
Mocky: so in reading the logs I see that musl is a libc which is smaller and stricter than glibc. is there such a thing for c++ standard library or is it not needed?
kaniini: the huaweis use static kexinit data too it seems
kaniini: if they are non-prime that would be an easy thing to check
kaniini: i wonder if checking exponent on these huawei keys will be interesting
mircea_popescu: aha! so that's why they keep popping up.
kaniini: those are the huaweis
kaniini: mircea_popescu i mean, it will open a terminal channel and dump you into a login(1) type program, instead of rejecting the password
mircea_popescu: kaniini ~new~ keys are generally queued because the factorization process is somewhat involved. but there's a real time rss in #asciilifeform
kaniini: i'd say at least half of the ips i have seen are like that
kaniini: and then it will send something like "Invalid password"
kaniini: a lot of the devices will let you log in anyway,
kaniini: if key is good, then we can skip scanning it
kaniini: i guess, the question is, i wonder if we can check somehow in real time
mircea_popescu: (various other lulzolade, say http://trilema.com/2017/the-incidental-humiliation-of-obamas-clean-energy-policies-marc-andreessens-internet-of-farts-and-other-such-comedic-gold-bricks/ sorta 2nd step from there)
mircea_popescu: anyway ; tmsr has been running a ~yearly survey of the ipv4 space. results are lulzy, likle http://trilema.com/2016/internet-census-2016/
mircea_popescu: i hope you don't mind the quote.
mircea_popescu: ~relevant bit being i guess "<kaniini> now that's a nick i haven't seen in a while. there is already https://github.com/kaniini/antissh that pops most of them. this stuff about keys is interesting though"
kaniini: well, i am not surprised by the finding that the keys are weak, given it is embedded shitboxes
asciilifeform: rain2: ... and then i will rate you , and you will be able to self-voice.
asciilifeform: rain2: incidentally you will prolly find the recent work by spyked , http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html + http://btcbase.org/patches/adalisp_genesis , to be of interest
asciilifeform: rain2: 'The compiler doesn’t actually emit a sequence of 64 bit words though. It emits a “tokens” which the virtual machine can read in and translate into 64 bit words before they get executed.' << out of curiosity, why didja do this
rain2: if you like the scheme programming language, i have blogged about it https://rain-1.github.io/scheme
asciilifeform: on my planet, folx introduce themselves, e.g. 'i am bob and i drive a rubbish truck'
asciilifeform: rain2: while you have the microphone, want to say something about yerself ?
asciilifeform: rain2: chances are, more or less any interesting subj you've ever thought about , is somewhere in the log. make use of the search.
mod6: get in the wot, rent a rockchip, become a start
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'seclist' lulzfest linked specifically for the laugh where some boeck figure loses his shit because some 'traitor' didn't wait the requisite 14days usg wanted etc
mircea_popescu: "digital divide" a-ok nao, for reasons (see "code of conduct", i'm sure it explains why they can blather all they want for as long as they do exactly what we say etc)
a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 15:44 mircea_popescu: as we're contemplating an eulora client rewrite, i am contemplating the following code release paradigm : client author a) releases code encrypted to l1, signed and deeded (so basically, gpg -aer asciilifeform -r ave1 -r etc) ; b) releases precompiled binaries for allcomers.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 05:11 mircea_popescu: this paradigm readily explains the soviet state - "rock and roll" relationship, and moreover that historical accident had a lot to do with why alphabet even ~exists~ today. otherwise, on the naked strength of imaginary "advertising revenue" google is worth ~dozen stackexchanges/slashdots/sourceforges. but, generals always fight last year's war, and so here we are, "bayesian lesswisdom".
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 00:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840622 << the shitstains have been doing their 'coordinated disclosure' for , what , 20yrs nao , it isn't particularly 'idea', but rather the default herd-biological behaviour of shitstains
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-09 21:21 asciilifeform: if can find the originating booby, can potentially turn half dozen pops, into several 10k.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only do we , but http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2018-8-10#411746 ( and elsewhere, earlier ), if can find how they constrained the keyspace, can pop ~all~ of'em
mod6: they're fuckin everywhere
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840633 << wowza, we actually have the ssh keys for some of these ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the pantsuit wank is overpowering, both odorously and lulzy. "digital divide" for instance ? totally term of pantsuit (idiocy is not an art).
mircea_popescu: there's also you know, 200m drop bridges and gazebos overlooking miles of jungle and stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: in this country water's a safe assumption. if none on the ground, some will coming in via aeropost soon enough.
mircea_popescu: well, there's a lake, and of course jacuzzipools etc. but anyways.
mircea_popescu: however, nude beauties bathe in waterfalls. not a complete loss.
mircea_popescu: aactualy arenal is a volcano, no crocs there.
asciilifeform: ( unless , i suppose , trinque proclaims arm64 cuntoo release b/w nao and then )
asciilifeform doesn't anticipate making any further changes to the pizarro rk kernel, at least while we use same iron
asciilifeform: ^ nao with out-of-the-crate iptables support
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 00:00 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840480 << forgot to mention which log they read to get the "idea". because totally, it'll no longer be "we copied tmsr" if they don't admit they copied tmsr.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840622 << the shitstains have been doing their 'coordinated disclosure' for , what , 20yrs nao , it isn't particularly 'idea', but rather the default herd-biological behaviour of shitstains
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 00:07 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840508 << will be interesting to check these against mats's mega-collection ( subj above ) , as i understand it is reasonably fresh and covers good % of ipv4
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840631 << btw i dun have'em all unpacked yet, but estimate the net weight to be somewhere b/w 300 and 500 mil. rsa mods
asciilifeform suspects the most elementary default creds shitrouter worm
asciilifeform: and pretty busy bees -- loading the admin prompt takes almost whole minute for some of these
asciilifeform: and they're ~all in orcistans, argentina, vietnam, etc ;
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840621 << a random sampling of your dropbears reveals them to huawei ( e.g. 143.255.155.51 is a HG8247H , 14.187.228.175 -- a HG8045A ) , and ubiquiti ( 188.255.132.97 -- 'air os' )
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 23:56 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840467 << o look, they're gonna sue their own cvasi orc republic because nonos.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840619 << would be lulzy to watch the scorpion sting itself, tho
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 23:52 mircea_popescu: for future entomologists : entire list of http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akDqm/?raw=true (seeming fixed ips in the recent bot attack) produced 0 matches. home routers.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840508 << will be interesting to check these against mats's mega-collection ( subj above ) , as i understand it is reasonably fresh and covers good % of ipv4
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 21:08 asciilifeform: 'In about 500 submissions on average we recover the whole key' << from e.g. montrezor, other shitwallets, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840487 << and i'm sure http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/ "we" have to "explain" why some randos calling themselves names aren't the names they chose but the names we chose.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 19:31 asciilifeform: in continuing lulz, 'Which "club"? If you're an Open Source operating system distro, you can now apply to join (linux-)distros under our published criteria. Otherwise, yes, you're out of luck joining that "club". This is "selective disclosure", and it has drawbacks. There's no perfect alternative.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840480 << forgot to mention which log they read to get the "idea". because totally, it'll no longer be "we copied tmsr" if they don't admit they copied tmsr.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 16:14 asciilifeform: but still lulzy wankage, e.g., https://archive.is/qeO5s >> 'Since this has business impact, we consider legal action against the opaque Linux-distros vulnerability-disclosure-among-friends-for-fun-and-profit scheme, that we exposed at the ITU earlier this year. This is digital divide in the works, with real impact for non-club-members ...'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840467 << o look, they're gonna sue their own cvasi orc republic because nonos.
mircea_popescu: for future entomologists : entire list of http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akDqm/?raw=true (seeming fixed ips in the recent bot attack) produced 0 matches. home routers.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 14:53 asciilifeform: ( nao whether somebody, somewhere, still uses recent mozilla, is separate q )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840439 << or whether someone somewhere doesn't have cloudflare drop'd
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840435 << useful in more than one way, actually ; we've had cases before where people dig'd by hand to see whether dns problem local or what.
mircea_popescu: their fucking "workflow". as if anyone "working" for github ever did any work.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-08 17:04 asciilifeform: 'The security researcher also recommended we consider using GPG signing for Homebrew/homebrew-core. The Homebrew project leadership committee took a vote on this and it was rejected non-unanimously due to workflow concerns.'
a111: Logged on 2018-08-09 08:47 spyked: ^ note that the default behaviour now is "say nothing on failure". I'm not convinced that this is the proper way to interact, would like to hear opinions on this.
asciilifeform: about half of the 1st ( of 24!) parcel of 27M keyz from mats , eaten up nao. by end of next wk, will grind.
asciilifeform: 'In about 500 submissions on average we recover the whole key' << from e.g. montrezor, other shitwallets, etc.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'The Go implementation of the P-256 elliptic curve had a small bug due to a misplaced carry bit affecting less than 0.00000003% of field subtraction operations.'
BingoBoingo: So on this third day of baking, the dough may become a pizza crust instead of a bread. We'll see after incoming Qntra
asciilifeform: ( for folx who dun feel like digging through that particular latrine pit -- they have an explicit '14 day embargo' to give nsa time to drill new holes into victims )
asciilifeform: in continuing lulz, 'Which "club"? If you're an Open Source operating system distro, you can now apply to join (linux-)distros under our published criteria. Otherwise, yes, you're out of luck joining that "club". This is "selective disclosure", and it has drawbacks. There's no perfect alternative.'
asciilifeform: mod6: it's simply the launch codes for rk 'C' ( previously occupied by mats ) , it is ready for new user.
asciilifeform: ( consists, in practice, of regular warm, wet kisses from usg.nsa straight into mouths of folx still using 'modern distros' , followed up by generous cocktail of obfuscatory lies to the public , then exposure, then the usual fudstorm to try an' keep the ruse alive for a bonus day or three )
asciilifeform: for non-expert entomologists : the perps ( i dun distinguish b/w 'bug'-inserters and coverup-artists ) ~continue~ to spew the squid ink where the patch is disguised as 'for denial of service bug' rather than arbitrary r/w -- despite the cat being out of the bag for nearly whole day nao
asciilifeform: or letting this happen. (At the same time, I did force another semi-public issue to oss-security right away since that one didn't involve coordination with so many parties.)'
asciilifeform: and the cucks entertain, https://archive.is/4L8IS >> from one 'Solar Designer' , kernelist, 'However, with CERT involved and with related issues affecting more than just Linux, there was little I could do, short of playing full BOFH and breaking the semi-embargo for everyone. While I think that would have been for the general public's benefit overall, I didn't feel about it strongly enough to actually do it this time. I apologize f
asciilifeform: but still lulzy wankage, e.g., https://archive.is/qeO5s >> 'Since this has business impact, we consider legal action against the opaque Linux-distros vulnerability-disclosure-among-friends-for-fun-and-profit scheme, that we exposed at the ITU earlier this year. This is digital divide in the works, with real impact for non-club-members ...'
asciilifeform: 'The bug only affects kernels that have CONFIG_POSIX_TIMERS and CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE enabled, which is done by a lot of modern distros' << i.e. none of asciilifeform's kernels
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's take the rest of this to #p, to reduce log pollution. ping me there when you get back.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have the stuff I need off of it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you mentioned that you want yours reimaged ? didja back up the thing ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ready for the swappy dance?
asciilifeform: ( nao whether somebody, somewhere, still uses recent mozilla, is separate q )
jurov: while !S can be kept as is, only show the one IP banner is from.
spyked: jurov, thanks for the idea! sbcl's resolver (sb-bsd-sockets:get-host-by-name) returns both addresses on my machine, but querying each of them for the banner might break the one-response-per-command rule (I could try to string them all together in one response, but I find that ugly). so maybe I could add DNS resolution as a separate command?
jurov: spyked: when querying via DNS, perhaps show the IP address, too?
spyked: ^ note that the default behaviour now is "say nothing on failure". I'm not convinced that this is the proper way to interact, would like to hear opinions on this.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-08 16:58 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma test new kernel today, then tomorrow will ask BingoBoingo to power down rk-c and put disk in dulap to i can snap new master img, then it will go into service ( and can reimage BingoBoingo also ) .
asciilifeform: mod6: will be tonight, after which there will remain http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-08#1840376
asciilifeform: ( similarly i observe that, e.g., phf , or ben_vulpes , do not post re ruby or whatever horror they're currently mired in in the saeculum, for what i suspect is same reason )
asciilifeform: observe that you won't find asciilifeform posting tips an' tricks re winblowz terraforming. or anything re subj. the Right Thing to do with winblowz, is to flush it down toilet, and walk away.
asciilifeform: phf: fwiw ( and possibly i mentioned this in the past ) asciilifeform works with... undocumented corners of microshitiana , for his bread. ( would liek to stop, but i dun see it happening any time soon . ) but i wouldn't wish it on other people, or recommend it as a 'promising career' etc.
asciilifeform: at this point it is not so unlike winblowz , i.e. if yer getting srs dough for putting on the bathyscaphe and descending into sewer, then yes, descend, but prolly won't feel like telling people about it, and will try to forget at end of the day
asciilifeform: given how crapple world rolls, i expect very soon the ruby liquishit will be the only 1 remaining
asciilifeform: last i tried, it was specifically 'macports' that was only 1 that had 100% of the necessary ports. but 'mileage may vary' sure.
phf: i don't know what's the basis for that assessment, outside of my occasional rants: homebrew is also the only useful one of the three, i.e. you can use it to provision a standard issue corporate macbook pro into doing useful thing
a111: Logged on 2018-08-08 17:12 ben_vulpes: macports is the portagealike, homebrew is ~canonical apt-get
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-08#1840391 << you're confusing homebrew with fink (which i believe is now mostly dead). homebrew is closer to gentoo's portage: it's written from scratch in ruby and so are the port descriptions
BingoBoingo: Was a star of the February drama
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He is the one that was involved in generally being a liability to Latecho's business. ben_vulpes met him
asciilifeform: ( fat lotta good it does, sans wot, but it's there )
ben_vulpes: macports is the portagealike, homebrew is ~canonical apt-get
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:25 phf: meanwhile, homebrew, the mac os x package manager, finally pulled the final bate and switch. "build from source" option is now marked as "unsupported" (!!!) in the man pages, everything's being pulled using precompiled archives. building a non-trivial set of packages from source fails along the way with clearly misconfigured formulas. this is possibly of interest only to ben_vulpes (?)
a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 19:08 phf: macports or homebrew which are portage versions for apple. at least macports can still be used to build xquartz from scratch. i've not personally tried that in a long time, so it's possible that there's serious wrecker situation there.
asciilifeform: 'The security researcher also recommended we consider using GPG signing for Homebrew/homebrew-core. The Homebrew project leadership committee took a vote on this and it was rejected non-unanimously due to workflow concerns.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the heathen circus, https://archive.is/Q85Dn + https://archive.is/U7KF9 >> 'On 31st July 2018 a security researcher identified a GitHub personal access token with recently elevated scopes was leaked from Homebrew’s Jenkins that gave them access to git push on Homebrew/brew and Homebrew/homebrew-core...'
BingoBoingo: In other happy news, ben_vulpes may appreciate... Rodrigo is no longer with Latecho
BingoBoingo: Aite, going to just leave my RC powered down then
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ok to leave dc nao, unless you have other items queued
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma test new kernel today, then tomorrow will ask BingoBoingo to power down rk-c and put disk in dulap to i can snap new master img, then it will go into service ( and can reimage BingoBoingo also ) .
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 41 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to move the usb drive into RK 'C' and power up, but ping me when setting out to dc, i want to test it before you go back
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Caffinating, will head over to the DC in a bit
asciilifeform: the sv threads in particular.
mircea_popescu: hence the discussion of income in % terms and all that. but, the logs are already written.
asciilifeform: this dynamic is often seen in the blather of orcs, esp. on ru side , masturbating over 'american salaries', conveniently glossing over american rents etc
mircea_popescu: i've seen tons of these "i make 70k a year but i actually can't afford a $50 pair of shoes" sorts.
mircea_popescu: so this is the other-side use of the real estate racket. yes, 500k is ~0, judged eg by the count of lawyers breaking down his doors and windows to please generously find employment and a crumb of income in any conditions.
asciilifeform: the old tales where d00d sells soul, see also.
mircea_popescu: and if he doesn't know how to evaluate it therefore it doesn't really exist, and so on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the basic of the usg chumpatron is this precise process, "very little" -> "very much", ie, he went from 1 beer money to 50`000 beer money. this is growth, yes ?
mircea_popescu: but i do see your line as quite persuasive and well supported, "modernity essentially consists of feminization of the male in the sense of getting boys to believe their brains are a sort of cunts"
mircea_popescu: i wonder how we'd build the diffraction experiment for this matter.
asciilifeform: i dun recall douchebag in particular mentioning a wunderwaffe that would explain the 'surely will rake in the dough' bravado
asciilifeform: the douchebag type isn't, contrary to appearances, believer in enchanted horse. but in his enchanted arse, which is to drive ordinary horse across oceans
mircea_popescu: does it distinguish algae from saprophites ? because that's the core, imo. female version is "our cunts are blessed with producing good output" whereas male version is "this enchanted horse really is enchanted and wil ltake us there"
asciilifeform: if there's a diff b/w these 2 hypothetically distinct particles, asciilifeform's cyclotron is not equal to determining it
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 << this thing. imo irreducibly different from the http://trilema.com/2016/to-be-clear-hillary-clinton-lost-the-presidential-election-on-june-16th-2016/#selection-35.1-35.117
asciilifeform: 'backpatter' willingly places 'him'self in the 'ninxs' terrarium
mircea_popescu: nah, that was very much the male backpatting thing, http://trilema.com/2016/cat-vorg-adnotated/ http://trilema.com/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/ etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, thinking about it, utterly gotta add the "lxs ninxs" stupid on the list. there's nothign quite like sexually neglected women gathering together coming up with "pearls of wisdoms of how world IS".
asciilifeform: lol perhaps they have to do it by hand, contracted to nigerians
mircea_popescu: can you believe, btw, the "spammers" ARENT registering nicks ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite a few of the ru originals were not-terrible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a handful of known 'elementary particles' of stupid, that aren't copies of one another (e.g. 'decenii de intelept cuvint!'-stupid, britney-stupid, goats-and-cousins-fucking desert-stupid , threadbare chukcha-stupid, ... ) but aside from that, yes, copies, how else
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo plox to move the usb drive into RK 'C' and power up, but ping me when setting out to dc, i want to test it before you go back
asciilifeform: based, of course, on the famous 'Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселей!' (tm)(r)(stalin)
asciilifeform: the piss-stained microshit keyboard, esp. classy...
mircea_popescu: neither do they, but they've seen something in a picture from somewhere (ie, specifically, http://trilema.com/2012/generatia-fara/
mircea_popescu: by the time you gotta scrape the barrel so tightly you end up with argentine fucktards, you know there's definitely nothing there.
mircea_popescu: anyway, discussion of the freenode lulz is ~entirely absent. turns out freenode was exactly as dead as http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-other-dead-things/ suggests.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, "argentinian sysadmin community". let me dispel any such nonsense : there is no such thing as an argentine sysadmin.
mircea_popescu: << https://sysarmy.wordpress.com/2018/08/06/irc-sysarmy-r-en-freenode/ in other news, the question of wtf a "sysarmy" is supposed to even be remains open
a111: Logged on 2018-08-07 22:25 asciilifeform: the log is easy part , i can stand up own if needed. the rss is the tricky.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-07#1840229 <-- I'd very much like to give the rss bot prototype a shot at this, if possible. the bot is not battle ready, but this would be an opportunity to stress test the basic functionality. if you think it's worth it, give the sign and I'll have it join #asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: And... The bread acceptably took delivery of mortadella
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 20:15 mircea_popescu: anyway esthlos i know it's hard but srsly, don't give it up, it's entertaining and perhaps marginally even useful. "Hence I'm changing my base organizational approach and will be prioritizing the log reading above Keccak and other projects, to move towards the desired number." pfff!!
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1839933 << yep, I was moving, should have communitated this before the fact! am now resuming
BingoBoingo: As it is, the lumps en tramite para ser loaves are overwhelming the little silicone loaf pans
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We'll see the yeast is still eating
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo are you listing the chunks of bread burnoff under "Birds" ? "this is barry.... this is larry..."
BingoBoingo: Holy fuck these loaves will not stop inflating
a111: Logged on 2015-05-16 17:06 danielpbarron adds another to the list -> http://danielpbarron.com/ascii_book_list.txt
BingoBoingo: And yes, this is February so I am already late. Just threw a 2 gallon pot on the balcony
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> i haven't got one in #mocky this whole time, figured they don't bother with just one << Ditto for #agriculturalsupremacy
trinque: Mocky: give it another pull
mircea_popescu: AND HOW MUCH THEY CHARGE ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform deedbot doesn't log afaik ? maybe talk to phf or ben_vulpes see ikf either's willing to add you ?
asciilifeform: but would rather it logged
asciilifeform: was hoping to set the massive phuctoring in motion some time in next days
trinque: nah, because not joined to the chan
trinque: oh hm, asciilifeform I don't have deedbot running on the multi-channel variant ben_vulpes has
asciilifeform: prolly will come in as soon as ben_vulpes hooks up the log.
asciilifeform: i expect they'll show eventually.
asciilifeform: i suspect ' < N users ' or the like
asciilifeform: interestingly, there are no spambots currently working in #asciilifeform . evidently they have cutoff, and it is too small ?
asciilifeform hanging up the proper carpets in 'castle' for ephemera, per mircea_popescu recipe
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> phuctor is soon to grind several megatonnes of keyz; can haz deedbot copying the output to #asciilifeform ( currently goes to ordinary asciilifeform ) plz ? ty
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell trinque phuctor is soon to grind several megatonnes of keyz; can haz deedbot copying the output to #asciilifeform ( currently goes to ordinary asciilifeform ) plz ? ty
Mocky: that's on hold still until the summer air fare drops
BingoBoingo: Mocky: Given any more thought to visiting the Oriental Republic
asciilifeform: ^ the scammonkey responsible for 'xmr' iirc
a111: 2016-03-24 <fluffypony> otherwise you learn nothing and you're forever forced to wallow in your own ignorance
asciilifeform: Mocky: afaik the orig piratebay died yrs ago, was replaced by ???
Mocky: oh hey, thepiratebay comes out of the closet. page footer: "By entering TPB you agree to XMR being mined using your CPU. If you don't agree please leave now or install an adBlocker"
BingoBoingo: Congrats on the new gig Mocky
mircea_popescu: check me out, caught up with logs. well... i guess it's time to go sticking sticks through the cage bars into tender flesh! a bientot!
mircea_popescu: but yes, of course, anyone who can use a thing can make that thing by the definitions of the terms use and make (ie, their being the same thing). nevertheless, one usually chooses not to make everythin himself.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 23:23 asciilifeform: already if you want nitric acid in usa, you gotta either find where to steal , or make own, a la 1700s.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840109 << this has afaik been going on for a while. 11yo me had a half liter of 99% nitric acid in his chemistry lab ; but at the same time in "civilised world" it was impossible to get because... i dunno, YOU COULD MAKE THINGS!!! IT IS ILLEGAL TO MAKE THINGS!!!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 22:17 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840047 << i believe item in question started as "lulz what else can we print wit dis thing" kind of like at a house party at 4am one tries to figure out what else can be used as a vodka mixer, but the government ban turned it into "i do what i want mom!1"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840085 << quite exactly how management works in the zone, yup.
diana_coman: ahaha, not even that yet; went to... play dolopoly (aka sudtiroler monopoly) with the 5 yo who wanted to keep going past bed time anyway, lol
mircea_popescu: and good morning ; welcome to the changes since you went to bed.