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mats: i thought the aboriginals was funny s'all
asciilifeform: not speaking of nulands, but of folx who grew up in cn, side by side with the aboriginals
mircea_popescu: meh, 2nd hand. never works. i didn't learn sicilian from "italian government girl from rome working in palermo" either.
asciilifeform: these gotta exist, somewhere
asciilifeform: maybe the pill , is , daughters of euro folk working in cn
asciilifeform: *the rub
asciilifeform: interestingly, jp -- tho saddled with same nonsense -- started work on phasing out hieroglyphs. the run is that they started in , what, 700 a.d., and still not finished
mircea_popescu: "language barrier" is another word for stupid.
asciilifeform: as i gather, they treat the anglos similarly to how tmsr -- take anyffing not bolted down, but do not hurry to give back.
asciilifeform: ( and, also recall, they ran uncle al's eotvos experiment... )
asciilifeform: it prolly aint lang barrier -- recall, they saw phuctor and translated, correctly, and even avoided swallowing boeck etc
mircea_popescu: hmm, fuck me, i'm wrong. they only make about 17mn or so a year, both genders. for some reason i tought moar like 25.
asciilifeform: for all i know, they managed to birth only 100k for all 3.
mircea_popescu: sadly fits in the box of "managed to produce >10mn hussies 16 years ago, none of which are sharp enough to pick up easy money here"
asciilifeform: possibly consists of >1 cuttable entities , that would fit, but i do not know what they are yet.
mircea_popescu: this ant theory doesn't stand ; they found the symmetries, much like arabs and french.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 18:48 mircea_popescu: note that for all the "free money!!!" the usg doesn't get any GOOD SHIT. it just gets the plasticars that they don't really want or need anyway, but not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845236
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845694 << 'good shit' is not the only way to spend proceeds of plunder & theft -- can also spend like heroin addict, on staving off 'cold turkey'. which is what usg does, i.e. supplies 300M office plankton with cheap petrol, plastic house, plastic car.
asciilifeform: first kingdom where they ban microshit , where will it be ? ( and can i buy ticket ! )
asciilifeform: as for '5000yr wisdom of china', i'd at least consider to take it seriously if they, say, quit running microshit.
asciilifeform: general electric, for instance, is hard at work on setting up 'next fukushima' in post-sov east europistan. bulgaria, ukrs, ro, close contestants for the eventual sr90 medal.
asciilifeform: the longer the usg show goes on , the moar intricately irreversible horrors will be born. which is why i do not buy worth one shit the hypothesis of 'wisdom of forward-looking wise 5000yr china' . they're civilization of the ant, 0 values but 'wealth' of the most immediate pov.
asciilifeform: ( why, so usg can pack the debeaked birds even tighter, breed new pathogens ? )
mircea_popescu: note that for all the "free money!!!" the usg doesn't get any GOOD SHIT. it just gets the plasticars that they don't really want or need anyway, but not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845236
mircea_popescu: well, maybe the cn dun wanna provide the same pressure, as a free service.
asciilifeform: and yes pressure from su was the thing holding the insanity of fdr.usg into some semblance of sense.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-04 16:24 mircea_popescu: as far as uneducated, "hard" ustardian kids were concerned, the dilemma stood between stories of killing injuns and "building a civilisation out of a wilderness" by then two generations expired, or else ~kids just like them actually doing it~, driving motorcycles through the endless dusts of the middle earth and erecting oil pumping metropolises across the siberia.
mircea_popescu: if it ever worked that way, it was back in the 50s, when under pressure from soviet union free housing and moreover http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-04#1831653
asciilifeform: the old (nao mostly dead) institution of zek mortgage, was exactly this tho
mircea_popescu: well who the fuck knows. nobody understands chinese -- not even the speakers.
asciilifeform: why , i still dunget, would they do this.
mircea_popescu: "borrow". chinese ppls give them freebies. what, i know a guy named shaun who has a girl who's not a whore who he lends money to now and again.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so the classical model where 'they have a box with possibly 0, but the 0 not known for certain, so they can borrow from beijing against $box' entirely off ?
asciilifeform: but if somehow item seeing sunlight would help hitler to die -- then i'd like to see it .
mircea_popescu: just saying, the value of showing negatives is very much jealous wife interest.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i personally dun give even nanofuck whether knox contains megatonne of au, or 0, or nixon's used condom from when he was permitted inside.
asciilifeform: with the unknown 'but thought large' pile of au in it
mircea_popescu: (if it's not worth 0 to you, you just got a fix of your value to the usg! that's how much zek tack you're carrying)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc you were the one who wrote about that one mountain in ro
mircea_popescu: secret someone has something is worth the finder's fee, which is why it's called that. 10%.
asciilifeform: evidently the derps themselves, think >0
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'than it's worth' is complicated -- how much is worth the seekret of 'usg has 0 au' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 18:24 asciilifeform: Mocky: ask him some time why don't the tank corps at ft knox storm the inner fort and expose the fdr sham.
asciilifeform: the au may be in beijing , but the bezzle-au still safely stored at knox..
mircea_popescu: moreover, whether it cost more in guarding than it was worth, since it's been a while ?
Mocky: ~everyone coming though the gates is wondering where it is
Mocky: I never saw it while there, rumored to be there tho
asciilifeform: ( yes they have the nominal home of the fdr-confiscatola ~inside~ tank corps school )
asciilifeform: Mocky: ask him some time why don't the tank corps at ft knox storm the inner fort and expose the fdr sham.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> folx like BingoBoingo's brothers or whoever. << Not brothers, cousins. Brothers are dentist and utility pole engineer respectively
asciilifeform not been in usa army. but did work as non-liveried specialist with their medical corps, for some yrs, so got an -- admittedly coloured -- look at one organ of the beast, from inside
Mocky: asciilifeform, 'i hate my job' is the internalization of the problem, opposite of questioning
asciilifeform: folx like BingoBoingo's brothers or whoever.
mircea_popescu: noncitizen soldiery. which is why all the "usarmy provided training and logistical support" etc.
asciilifeform: Mocky: us army is not waffen ss tho. visit a base, it's full of the typical 'i hate my job' schmuck that you meet anywhere else, construction sites, mines, wherever
Mocky: the ones who couldn't be 'trained not to question' failed training
asciilifeform: rather than cutting throats
asciilifeform: the only part of the system that doesn't make any sense to asciilifeform , is why the soldiers, raped raw regularly with e.g. retro-revoked bonuses, deployments to goatfuckistans with 0 strategy beyond 'clear mines with own feet', etc -- continue to prop up the inca
mircea_popescu: which is how the 10k is arrived at,
asciilifeform: phunphakt, gravestones already on their way out in usa, trend is to 'envir friendly' burials, with wooden stakes, paper flags, just like the old gulag
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean no "sentimental" bullshit, either. casa quantu stai e tirrinu quantu viri.
asciilifeform: can't exactly buy it for lolcoin ('real estate equity' and other fuffles) now can you.
mircea_popescu: but parents who leave behind no owned slice of the world don't deserve a grave, and merit to spend eternity in shameland.
mircea_popescu: hey, let them buy bitcoin, i don't care how they go about it.
asciilifeform: ( and this is the only type of inheritance that still worx in usgdom )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun subscribe to the model where folx who dun have a usg.'foundation' to meritwash their spawn into backdoor-inheriting meritwashed moneys, are 'shit parent'
asciilifeform: then pissing wins
mircea_popescu: in other shocking news today, pissing more effectual than wishing in all fields and applications!
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
Mocky: well not like a bunch of black dudes sayin 'wish my parents were white'... then some white kid would have been the son
mircea_popescu: this fucking matters ; having shit parents makes one shittier than the alternative, and the fact that "There's nothing he can do about that" doesn't EXCUSE anything.
mircea_popescu: had a brief career in the us, but west coast only, and limited to post-gilded age dweebs only.
mircea_popescu: so no, the "wait for parents to die", traditional euro-french strategy of the "age of enlightenment" as it were, nevertheless long in the tooth.
mircea_popescu: maybe in the sense of, "currently solvent". but wealthy is not experimentally encountered.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 17:49 Mocky: then they will promptly take out a mortgage, lol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845577 << usg.mortgage is a device for separating salaried zeks (engineers, law, etc) from their 'excess' fat. not for millenial pauper to borrow against... what, exactly. (maybe organs?)
mircea_popescu: gotta keep up with the costs of the spanis-american war!
mircea_popescu: i'm sure the "not a tax" tax however DIDNT get fucking cancelled. much like the spanish-american war DID get cancelled, but the tax on phone introduced "for" it is still there.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-29 17:32 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
Mocky: then they will promptly take out a mortgage, lol
mircea_popescu: that's long past. parents mostly rent. and then there's medicare.
mats: sad. kids waiting for their parents to die so they can move into their house
mircea_popescu: and yes the trend is agravating, 2000s born set will certainly "owe" more than 1995-2000 set which in turn about 100% more than 1990-1995 set and so fucking following.
mats: the editing isn’t very good, but my take is that 30% of borrowers have -at least- missed 3 payments over five years (‘students facing serious struggles’)
mircea_popescu: (chinese, reportedly still fucking horrible; but then again maybe in time, it's not so far from prepubescent girly olympi-perisexual displays, and they sure mastered that)
mircea_popescu: no soviets in the east ; and no cn/kr/etc permitted to fly. for same "smelly" reason, i suspect. the koreans aren't all that bad these days.
asciilifeform: afaik there was no brit presence in pacific, tho. straight usa vs jp contest.
mircea_popescu: raf dominated the east << i mean, the west, of course.
mircea_popescu: then they wanna know why obesity problem.
mircea_popescu: nobody will fucking drive ~the largest target that can be found~ in the middle of chaos, what the fuck. an ustard however will find this natural.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in su there was legend of at the very least 1 test pilot who flew mig29 vertically into ground , when wife left
mircea_popescu: folk are broken in the fucking head ; just look at current mad max remake : a hot chick THAT IS NOT NAKED driving A TRUCK.
Mocky: in the 90's all of the 'how to operate' tank training was in tanks and ~all the 'how to fight as effective tank platoon' was in shitty simulator. this for both army and marines. Makes me wonder about 'modern' pilot training
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah yeah. which is why the brits generally had to supply the cover.
mircea_popescu: point in case, "losing pilots to marriage stress". if you can't slap the bitch over that running mouth of hers, what the fuck are you going to do in the air ? shoot instagram posts ?
mircea_popescu: so no, the "current" problems aren't current but fucking sturctural. always was a conclave of cowards.
asciilifeform: jp ran out of ~errything, while usa was fielding 'hellcats' with engine the size of entire today's toyota
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 18:52 mircea_popescu: there's two kinds of i won : the "i won because you're fucking stupid" and the "omfg i'm so cool i won". the latter never works out.
BingoBoingo: Another counsin spent very little time one boats, bounced around between arctic and arizona with experience punctuated by "peacekeeping" in Balkans. His kid is latest to enlist because "acts out", didn't school good, and wtf else to do
mircea_popescu: (this isn't to say ro is that good ; but the nato planes are shit, and the nato pilots even worse shit)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite possibly today's 'we control the vertical and horizontal!' delusional usaf, specifically begun in the days when jp ran out of modern machines ~and~ trained men, and pacific war turned into duck hunt
mircea_popescu: and since then, gimme a break ? for one thing ro destroyed the entire nato force back 9in when was it, 2015 exercise. and for the other, soviets were always better ; and after a brief gap ru is certainly supreme over the usg's rust buckets, since at least 2010s
mircea_popescu: anyway ; there was never actually a time us pilots were remarkable. during the war raf dominated the east and by VERY far japan dominated the east (in fact, the "biologically unfit to fly" jap pilots were the best pilots of the war, hands down). even romania's royal air force had better pilots than fucking usaf, wtf. but anyway, it was mostly brits and germans.
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> marines just get carried around by the navy, dun 'take ships' << This meshes with one of my cousin's experiences in the corps. Spent 6 years alternating between being stored on boats and being stored on land
mircea_popescu: do the airplanes also work better if they're pointy ?
asciilifeform: '...in the last half century only three U.S. Air Force pilots have become aces (five or more aircraft shot down). There may never be any more aces.'
Mocky: marines just get carried around by the navy, dun 'take ships'
mats: good times in teh best military in the world
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: "losing the qualitative edge that has had the USAF dominating the air since 1945"
mats: https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20171210.aspx if you’re interested in reading about the enlisted/officer pilot controversy
mircea_popescu: the mariens are supposed to be amphibious landers not fuckingpirates.
BingoBoingo: Doing an alt-history retrospective I am starting to think that if I would have enlisted... Coast Guard would have been the way to go. Practice useful skills like boarding ships, they do that all the time. When's the last time the Marines boarded a shipp in anger?
mats: by contrast, warrant officers fly their entire careers in usarmy, commissioned officers also fly but also get piped through command and staff billets
asciilifeform: the janitor is pilot too...
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 21:38 asciilifeform: upstack re 'steal a boeing', recall the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821351 fella ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the funny bit is that not only pilot can scrap the $$$ machine, but also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843688 d00d.
mircea_popescu: mccain needed MOST mother ? he's the best kid thereby!
BingoBoingo was under the impression "warrant officer" ranks were kept around for helicopter folk
mats: asciilifeform: not sure about the details but i wouldn’t be surprised if many pilots were at least 1LTs by the time they get out of training to actual unit
asciilifeform: they oughta make a 'bottom gun', about the life of the late mccain
BingoBoingo: It's ok, they got Tome Cruise to make a sequel to Top Gun, never mind that is character would have hit the ceiling on career length and been forced out last decade
asciilifeform: mats: lol! what did they use'em for prior ? mopping floors ?
asciilifeform: reportedly they takeoff & land by comp, also. the monkey in the chair is ceremonial.
trinque: lel, I thought this was what passed for "low-level commissioned officer" in chairforce these days
trinque: fortunately disappointing enough that I didn't end up stomping around the desert or flying drones for a living
trinque: certainly. most obvious example was they'd hit ya, make you do pushups in mud, etc., but there was a tacit "don't spoil things and cry to mother, who cries to superintendent"
mircea_popescu: or, if one prefers, kinda reminescent of the "computer security" crowd. same thing, really.
mircea_popescu: kinda reminescent of the classical abused wife portrait.
mircea_popescu: the things people who decided "to work with the system" will try...
trinque: probably has degenerated further since then
mircea_popescu: just that makes it obvious they should be shot until they submit.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 16:20 asciilifeform: trinque: jrotc is pre-enlistment army school, neh ? and they drill with ceremonial rifle ?!
asciilifeform: ( they are not considered usg.speshul )
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack, to the barrels -- i suspect that the reason why nobody bothers with this procedure in usa, is that barrels are sold openly
asciilifeform: i suspect that it is even possible to cheat, lower melting temp of the pb with (surprisingly cheap) gallium
mircea_popescu: they don't like each other.
mircea_popescu: washing machines all over the nation routinely get "lead" out of "barrel".
mircea_popescu: nah, you do what the washing machine does, by hand. your surfactant's prolly going to be a grease.
asciilifeform: it'll prolly remain in the rifling grooves tho
mircea_popescu: warm enough lead to be workable is not such a big deal, can hold i nhand with leather strap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on how generous museum was with the pb, could be headache, say they filled entire barrel.
asciilifeform: i.e. the clean rod
trinque: somebody oughta tell the kids next time there's a priceless artifact of the old south to defend
mircea_popescu: (the fundamental problem being that lead and iron don't alloy)
mircea_popescu: just need to machine a perfect rod for the barrel.
mircea_popescu: trinque here's the fun thing : you can actually clean those. contrary to what the idiots think, it's not "permanent" : lead becoms soft enough to push out long before the barel's actually fucked by the temp.
asciilifeform: trinque: jrotc is pre-enlistment army school, neh ? and they drill with ceremonial rifle ?!
BingoBoingo: PhunPhact, USG still at least nominally has a program for selling surplus weapons to civilians http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/
asciilifeform: they did this in su also. i still dunget why can't restore these to proper function -- yes melting out pb will destroy the temper on the barrel, but can go and re-anneal it
trinque recalls throwing around m1 garand's in high school, had lead poured down the barrel
asciilifeform: i think the same people had a mutilated PPSH also
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it wasn't 'demilitarized' in the 'this is nao a hammer' sense, it fired (semi)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Those are common "demilitarized" collectors items. In the 1990's the catalogs selling Mosin and cheap SKS were full of all sorts of otherwise cool (sten, uzi, etc) molested into uselessness
asciilifeform: ( but at least they kept the barrel, still ye olde 45-acp )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phunphakt -- i saw 'tommy' sold in shop in usa. but on closer look, turned out, it was a cruel mockery, they tore out insides and replaced with deliberately incompatible firing mechanism, so as to fire from closed bolt , per usg diktat
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i picture her as gigantic guinea pig.. << What puzzles me is that the hairless cultivars all seem to be in the pet trade. Due to their size you gotta defuzz the skin instead of skinning them lest they get to dry during cooking.
BingoBoingo: Well, when you gotta cut down non-Judeoist fanatics like the Japs... Gotta do what you gotta do
mircea_popescu: pro tip : the thompson's a passible concrete cutter. it comes from the same mental era as http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=warthog ; made by the same people for the same reasons, abandoned by the same cucks for the same reasons.
BingoBoingo: Anyways the armaments of the ATM refill crew are pretty armed with the rifles and submachine guns (apparently the ATM crews are organized as fireteams with specialists?)
mircea_popescu has recently seen "the untouchables", a typically idiotic nonsenseyarn (with pre-america ending prettyboy costner). sean connery gets it well and good, and then proceeds to scramble about, his lungs 50% lead.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo don't you just love it, btw, when all sorts of inept modern remakers of "prohibition era" have people machine gunned with the damned thing and then they ... walk ? or something like that ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i sell reconditioned tommyguns, cheap. << Sweet, apparently .45 ACP is hard to find around these parts though
mircea_popescu: i dub august the month of mircescu mining! MMM!
mircea_popescu: nevertheless -- it also produced in excess of a quarter bn base value of minerals for me!
mircea_popescu: erexcited nonsense. consequently -- if sex includes buttseks, the butt will open up during sex, just like dogs drool when hearing the bell, and through exactly the same mechanisms for exactly the same reasons.)
mircea_popescu: (ah, note also the greedily opening butthole. this happens, in girls that regularily take it up the ass, because sexuality, as a subjective psychological construct, as well as sexual function, as a matter of physiology, are both TRAINED BEHAVIOURS, and absolutely nothing else ; certainly not some kind of "path to truth" or "deeply genuine and unfalsifiable expression of the self" or any of that 1900s "reformist" protestant ov
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back @civilisation, https://78.media.tumblr.com/1f904d46d1f0b1dac4b936f3420350d7/tumblr_o622p9p1r01rlzk17o1_500.gif (because, of course, http://trilema.com/2018/vote-hilary-2020/ ; as ye olde romanian proverb goes, "for every hottie at the bar there's some dude somewhere sick and tired of her dumb ass" )
mircea_popescu: whoever the fuck is trying to sell "Indian Sex Mms Free Download. Xxx Madhuri Video. Porn Sex India Video. Indian Schoolgirl Sex Tube" etc.
asciilifeform: who was 'they'
mircea_popescu: o look at that, they don't even manage to do it themselves! outsourced to russki tech support ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-azarov-6949903a here), JUST LIKE FIFTY YEARS AGO! holy shit india fails at lyfe.
mircea_popescu: (inspired by http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/n8dEh/?raw=true ; and let's welcome indian-bois-code to the 1990s superinformational public defecation highway!)
mircea_popescu: o hey there diana_coman !
mircea_popescu: vagina ain't the fucking vaginal opening. it's not a hole anymore the colon's a hole.
BingoBoingo: ^ Relatedly the California Health Department abolished "vagina" in favor of "front hole" while they further replaced "vulva" and "penis" with the now official in California term "parts"
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845365 << hahaha, but how many *police officers* were replaced with replicas?! << It's Paraguay, they were prolly sent to the front lines in Mato Grosso to fight the Emperor of the Brasileros with their clubs.
BingoBoingo: ANd for the curious "fusilier" is how the Brasileros translate rifleman
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-miracle-of-the-bells/ << Trilema - The Miracle Of The Bells
trinque: mod6: were the previous ones incorrect as well?
mod6: So now, we simply adjust the Shared Shell component.
BingoBoingo: In other things... the grocery savings that enlistment promises here http://cantinasmilitares.mil.uy/
mod6: trinque: your August invoice is incorrect, and I'll cancel the one currently open and give you the 0.002 price.
mod6: Ok so that is what it's going to be; 0.002 BTC/mo for the shared hosting with the web and mysql + 10 Gb storage
mod6: I was still referring to our website for the pricing, and we had not removed that line item from the page. So where I thought it was 0.003 BTC per month, I perhaps should have been charging 0.002.
mod6: That's the thought, yeah. I think a while ago ben_vulpes knocked the price down a bit to make it more appleaing. ( ben_vulpes, plz to correct me if I'm wrong here ). And I didn't know that this had happened.
mod6: Thought you guys might like these. I'll throw up a blog post with the specs and stuff if there is interest.
mircea_popescu: maybe we should have a log histogram done and then create a "unicode log keyboard". top 102 words get to go on the keys.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile teh empire is trying, of course, and they're doing it in their usual inept, ineffectual, "she can't say i'm not comfortable" way : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-26#1844799 . of course.
mircea_popescu: just like average hottie doesn't go "but tell me, have you noticed my tits" for 3rd date conversation -- sure as fuck if you've made it three dates he did notice the tits, yes.
mircea_popescu: and so, if upon seeing noob in #trilema person thinks "hey, this might've been someone interested in #pizarro", what person is really thinking is "shit, we're doing a terrible job of communicating #pizarro". because in any other case, they should've known ~already~ whether wanderer is or isn't interested.
mircea_popescu: management in the end very much like medicine : if person leaks from the belly upon taking a drink of water, odds are person's belly got an extra hole. if urine is sweet were should be salty, odds are too much sweets somewhere. etcetera.
mircea_popescu: but i'm also sure our funels are slack by that sure and unerring sign, that noobs wander in ~here~. it's 1000% easier to get someone interested in "bicoin mmo" than in terrorist organisation ; and maybe 5000% easier to get them interested in "clean reliable hosting". so if in spite of that immense differential #trilema still beats out #pizarro, it means the pizarro funel works at 0.2% efficiency at the very most. which can't
mircea_popescu: i'd love nothing more than a bunch of these from logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro !
mircea_popescu: that's all i'm saying, not that pizarro's no good or anything in the vein, but that the flow flows like it flows. republic mgiht pick some people from pizarro rooster for enoblement, not pizarro might pick some people from lordship for making a sale.
mircea_popescu: sure, in principle. but different doors, the set of considerations for "can be in #trilema" can't possibly include "pizarro might want to sell him something". it's like proposing people wandering into the white house shouldn't be kicked out because what if obama wants to give them a shoeshine ?
mod6: I gotta do a few things here, but I'll be back to sort the rest of the pricing fiasco out.
mod6: But maybe that's the right approach. I dunno.
mod6: Anyway, mircea_popescu, agree with your sentiments here. I just hate to see us slam the door in peoples face without even asking.
mod6: ok, yeah, will try to resolve all of it here tonight. #pizarro has the details of the debate.
mod6: aside from that there is a on-going debate about the pricing for the service.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> o wait, that's exactly what editor says. nice BingoBoingo << The point was obvious enough to be unavoidable
mircea_popescu: the door for the people who're looking to NOT do things is down the hall. this is the door for the people looking to actually do things.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 19:09 mircea_popescu: 3. darwin fish spent a decade, up until macarthur was ~50, in that church (after some other wrangling, mormons, whatever). then suddenly, as he himself reached 30, there was a major "time for my own church" moment. except, of course, nobody gave HIM the bn-dollar moneymaker. any they even told him why : he's way the fuck too cool for it, or as joe pesci put it, "that was the last fucking time...."
mircea_popescu: zx2c4 is still "writing painstaking careful code and giving it to the world for free", darwin fish is still http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800306 and will until the day he dies, what, "i'm glad we gave out some posters at $derpcon".
mircea_popescu: if phuctor stayed forever in the "oh, if someone wants to... he could..." bla bla, we'd still have nothing there, and presumably be very happy with it, too. god knows kanzure amstan whatever other tard in the circus has nothing for their decade+, and are VERY happy with the state of affairs.
mircea_popescu: when phuctor came about, we spent a short while with the whole "oh, whoever wants can put in his key" and a comparatively much longer whole with the "will get all keys in existence not asking anyone anything". this is an important lesson, and it is 20-fucking-14 or some shit.
mircea_popescu: that's what it is. we can, and by god we shall because we fucking must ; and if we shan't we have no business here and either someone else will or, i guess, nobody will. in either case -- what has to be done stays what it is, rather than what it'd comfortably be or we could argue it rather should be or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and so on and so forth. god gave us computers so we use them, not for any other purpose.
mircea_popescu: and similarly, if you';ve not talked to every single "webmaster" tard or whatever currently in existence, you've not done the job.
mircea_popescu: and i do mean ~every single last one~. i talk to every single chick on fetlife, meaning EVERY SINGLE ONE. that's the job of existence. nothing else passes muster.
mircea_popescu: and no, if you haven't talked to EVERY SINGLE LAST STRIPPER, EVERYWHERE, from strippers.com to webcams.shit to reddit.etc, you have not done the job of "baron titsbare".
mircea_popescu: paper ain't worth the bit it's printed on, if the function it supposedly describes is dead in the water.
mircea_popescu: just like the whole fucking point of having danielpbarron as EPT was so that he gets people in, for his own self fucking interest, rather than sit about. just how all the point of ALL these functions ever is : don't sit about going "oh, i have function x, see, this paper says so"
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point is for pizarro is to do the exact thing shinohai ineptly didn't do for the length of his tenure -- convert the innocent among the zek to republic.
mircea_popescu: "the wot", especially in the sense used here (cream of the crop, people rated well by lords etc) cant possibly ALSO be the grease trap of everyone's everything.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 20:29 mod6: i.e. shell/rockchip, anything. having Pizarro linked to peeps in the wot is hard-enough, but if we can't get anyone in the wot, than that's worse.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845253 << the plan was never "limit sales to people in wot". that's both stupid. and self-defeating. the plan always was http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813544
a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 17:33 mod6: mircea_popescu: this would be the quote through December 31st, 2018 ^
asciilifeform: i'ma do them exactly like-so, from nao on
mod6: "You want Rockchip?" "No." "Ok, fuck your mother."
asciilifeform: mod6: d00d was not 'thrown out' of the door, he could not bring himself to walk in to begin with
mod6: i.e. shell/rockchip, anything. having Pizarro linked to peeps in the wot is hard-enough, but if we can't get anyone in the wot, than that's worse.
mod6: before we throw anyone out the door, maybe ask them if they want service?
mod6: mircea_popescu: this would be the quote through December 31st, 2018 ^
asciilifeform: the current crock of shit soup 'html' is ~fractally wrong~ however -- if you strip away any particular piece of idjicy from it, you get nowhere. whole thing must die.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:14 asciilifeform: troo hyper-document oughta contain snapshots of all linkage. ( sure if external entity updates, viewer can be offered later ver, at ~his~ discretion. but oughta preserve linked material at time of linkage, the era of 'disk costs too much to store human text' went long ago)
mircea_popescu: none of this bs "link an article at a time". you either give me proper select linkage or you get archive.is linked instead. that sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: and much like in the way of blogs, i want states of display ~linkable as such~.
asciilifeform: i have one of these even nao. ( nao how to put it in a www-able form... )
mircea_popescu: absolutely not static. blockout was not static either.
mircea_popescu: the problem is this : given a flatfile of datapoints, convert that into 3d representation, that can be rotated, zoomed, shaved ; that is already colored correctly (meaning, as human would like it to be) and whose shaving and presentation can be scripted well (arbitrary and undefined well).
asciilifeform: is there something mircea_popescu knows about 3space that i dun know...
asciilifeform: outers get in the way of inners ?
mircea_popescu: and in general why is any and all 3d so fugly ? we know for a fact this can be done well, solved problem on the 386 ffs, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-02#1762623
mircea_popescu: mod6 not a full year hence ; rest of the year. that's 4 months and change.
asciilifeform: Mocky: really it wants to be a ~cube~ , x:Na, y:Nb, z:|Qa-Qb|, 1 if solution, 0 if not. but there isn't a satisfying way to draw this. so stuck with lolcat.gif
a111: Logged on 2017-07-23 19:38 mircea_popescu: (for the record -- while i do believe that IA (as opposed to ai bullcrap) is both perfectly achievable, in many ways achieved, and the ~only reasonable use of the machine in the first place ; i nevertheless think the problem is catastrophically ill posed in the "you know, like bullzoder" sense. yes there was such an application for digital computers, it is called "the numeric method" and still not widely deployed notwithstand
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the gif -- it isn't a full table by any means, only illustration of the arithmetical oddities at work
mircea_popescu: but i never do ; i always ask for vague things and then squeeze people with them.
mod6: mircea_popescu: surely, lemme see what the pricing will be on that.
mircea_popescu: also, a) gotta start somewhere ; b) she's not working to impress you, she's working to impress me, meaning your only productive stance is "not like that, like ~this~" rather than "your work doesn't make the cut".
asciilifeform: Mocky: there sadly cannot be a 'full' lolcat, all possible ones are finite slices
mod6: This would be the quote through the 30th of september: 0.00329032 BTC
mod6: 0.003 btc/mo is the rate on that.

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