mircea_popescu: ie, problem is WAY the fuck worse than mere failure along the lines of http://trilema.com/2018/must-suck-to-be-one-of-you-average-guy-with-a-great-sense-of-humor-losers-seriously-now/#selection-91.829-95.1 ; they literally have given up on commerce as a going concern, and universally.
mircea_popescu: the argentinization of the united states is so far progressed, i literally can not distinguish between the two by now. they make the same 0 sales.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that universally "unexpected situation" is the subjective perception of "we utterly fucked up".
mircea_popescu: because average ustard actually perceives that a) limiting himself to his broke-ass, never-seen-money-in-life compatriots is not merely an acceptable business strategy, but legally mandatory and b) the correct response to "unexpected situation" is "nopenopenopenopenope".
mircea_popescu: they didn't merely lose the sale ; but specifically sov-style she was "asked to leave".
mircea_popescu: girl was then sent on the premises, to explain that because they failed to have an online presence, either they let her photograph select items for her master or else they lose the sale.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-02#1846877 << this is nothing. girl got sent (to major us metropolitan area) to scout for specific sex shop items. returned list of "best sex shops" in early stage. upon review of their "online store" it was discovered a) they are 100% cheap-ass white label crap, exactly indistinct from what douchebag would run and b) entirtely not representative of 1% of the stock of the brick and mortar store.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-02 15:50 asciilifeform: diana_coman: on one hand, it makes for straight recipe for cuntoo lappy; but on other, it would still be slightly syphilitic , i.e. not wholly scrubbed of googlism
mircea_popescu: and cuntoo ~installer~ on the 16GB ssd << yes.
asciilifeform: aanyway i'm off to unwind for a spell in the room where it's 1982 , bbl.
asciilifeform: or take the 'dollar store' quality kbd. already sop in all lappy.
asciilifeform: upstack -- folx who aint condemned to work with crapple artifacts, can laugh off the idiocies, but they spread like pestilence to other vendors, e.g. glossy lcd, glued-in battery, gpu soldered with balls that thermally cycle and guaranteed to come loose in 3-4 yrs, have already become ~ubiquitous in other portable boxen
asciilifeform: and , fwiw, asciilifeform would rather live in su circa 1982 and design little calculators for 'elektronika'. but nobody asked him.
asciilifeform: it isn't any moar outrageous than the butane-filled refrigerator BingoBoingo found himself with
asciilifeform: hey, i suspect the caterpillar battery is inevitable : 'ecological!111'
asciilifeform: ( since mircea_popescu is asleep, i'ma have to put in placeholder for the oblig thread, [ m: 'you deserve this for working for a living, idjit' a: '...' ] )
asciilifeform: i can already picture it : 2y from nao, asciilifeform will be posting re crapple box where there's tank of poisonous brazilian caterpillars in place of battery, and they broke loose, and gotta stand in queue to have'em replaced, and meanwhile crawling up sleeves
diana_coman: the spikes idea sounds cool too, maybe suggest it
asciilifeform: ( i would say 'catches fire' is next, but then recalled that this is already not uncommon, and not merely in crapple machines )
asciilifeform: crapple has never not sucked, but the battery glue is imho a new low. gotta wonder what's next, maybe spikes will randomly emerge from the kbd
asciilifeform: ftr this was their last even half-usable box, right before they took away the f-keys.
asciilifeform: it's for heathen work, for moneys.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: at least that one's scrubbable, rather than in drm rom
asciilifeform: and, lulzily, not only do they charge coupla hundy for this, but they ~glue it in~ to make harder to replace ( chinese of course sell replacement, with bottle of acid to dissolve the glue, takes whole day, but this does not unbend the keyboard, mousepad, chassis, that bend from the swell )
diana_coman: the unique apple experience!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: on one hand, it makes for straight recipe for cuntoo lappy; but on other, it would still be slightly syphilitic , i.e. not wholly scrubbed of googlism
asciilifeform: i'ma let mircea_popescu make the call re whether these finds add up to a 'let's make lappys' or not yet.
asciilifeform: other item, is that a main bootloader built for this thing, theoretically will also work on the c100pa, which has no cr50.
asciilifeform: this will give a setup where a box separated from its sd, is 'unsecret', and can be expected to be identical to other cured units.
asciilifeform: imho the ideal setup for this box (which has ~4~ nonvolatile roms -- the 3 above, and the 16GB ssd soldered onto mobo) is to put uboot in the main fw, and cuntoo ~installer~ on the 16GB ssd, which will boot if blank sd card is inserted, and install cuntoo on the latter; and subsequently boot off sd. this way the box will not slowly wear out the nonreplaceable internal ssd.
asciilifeform: i did get the unlock to persist across reboots, last night.
asciilifeform: ( for those who did not follow the orig c101pa threads : the box has ~three~ firmware turds: 1) main (8MB) bootloader 2) EC (little arm thingie, has own console , controls all of kbd but the power and reset lines, as well as various voltages, and battery charger) 3) cr50 -- controls power/reset lines, inits the charging brick, and 'god mode' debug over the other 2 chips, i.e. cpu and EC )
asciilifeform: there also appears to be a knob that switches off the usb console entirely, but i have not tried it yet, will test when i'm about to throw out the current mobo i have in there (with the damaged mouse connector) and put in new one (i have replacements)
asciilifeform: fwiw i can also nao control 'pinmux' ( the built-in gadget that connects arbitrary lines on the pcb to arbitrary others ) and various other vendor knobs
asciilifeform: what i have not found a way to do, is to neuter cr50 in the sense originally wanted , where it turns into simply battery controller and nobody can rewrite from snake.
asciilifeform: what this does, is remove the 'nobus' aspect of the thing, nao anybody can r/w the fw via the snake.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to be very specific, i did not properly break cr50. what i found instead was an apparently-Official (albeit undocumented) knob in the most recent fw release, which does equiv of rma unlock ( sets all of the permission bits for console ) and enables spi bus access, through which can r/w the main and ec fw turds.
mircea_popescu: (their method of evaluating "activeness" is to remove content, keep html tag structure, and only count each structure once. supposedly it gets rid of autogenerated crapola.)
mircea_popescu: https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2018/08/24/august-2018-web-server-survey.html#more-26685 << in other lulz, netcraft estimation of active websites, flat for EIGHT YEARS RUNNING.
BingoBoingo: It is what it is. Uruguay legalized the stuff and yet the locals can't gorw themselves into an Oregon problem
BingoBoingo: Hard to repackage the Paraguay, its pressed for transit to Brasil
mircea_popescu: wtf, they don't even repackage ?!
BingoBoingo: Police identify smuggled paraguayo by the packaging
BingoBoingo: Enterprising patriots supporting the travel industry run to paraguay to get pressed herb otherwise destined for Brasil, and...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No, its Uy can't get enough brains to Oregon and they run out of domestic grown
asciilifeform: is this like the cig smugglers in nyc ?
mircea_popescu: i rather doubt there's those folks with 20 mil, at least at the level here discussed. a dime bag costs ~same here as in florida. actually, maybe slightly more expensiuve here. same as with hdds or w/e else, idiocy tax, everything costs the orcs more.
BingoBoingo: Similarly I see nothing about the police busting folks trafficking "pasta base (cocaine chaw)" but they do occasionally bust folks taking cheap marihuana paraguaya to Punta Del Este
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 18:28 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : minigame was going to work both an infinite-items and an infinite-lands update ; they kinda need the new client protocol (mostly to do on-demand content delivery) ; which is waiting for... cuntoo!
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846672 << I'll give this some more love tomorrow and the next, and should be good to go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa also when they pillage they find 'whole 20k usd' and not 20mil, for same reason
mircea_popescu: in fact, i've yet to see a piece where teh police breaking up these truly dangerous drug rings found more than ~week's pay in cash.
asciilifeform: at any rate, if it's a selective de-squatting, doesn't break the '1942 ss vs partizan' flavour equation
mircea_popescu: they have these pieces here too, "police caught dope dealing ring, confiscated some dope and 20`000 colones in cash"
mircea_popescu: wtf gangstering they might've done is anyone's guess.
asciilifeform: txt seems to imply that demolished 'because gangster', rather than 'because squat'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usually this is because "no need" because "everyone knows". latinos are a hopelessly fucked in the head barn animal species.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is this a very poorly communicated "these idiots '''built''' out of packaging on squatted land" thing ?
mircea_popescu: but doesn't it stand to reason that if indeed they demolished 10 "gangster" houses the "gangsters" in question now have all the more incentive to squeeze the pantsuit neighbours ? and if contrairy-wise, they demolished 10 pantsuit houses, thjey just did the "gangster"s one better ?!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma guess they saw a reportage from gaza strip once, where this 'worked' so well
BingoBoingo: For some reason the Authoritits have a hard on for bulldozing shit in Casaville
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get it, so washington pereyra informs that they demolished 10 houses including one of a woman that ambiguously either (ran a non-pantsuit-sanctioned soup kitchen) or (headed a criminal gang) because it was discovered that repeatedly gangsters asked locals "not involved in ilicit activity" to sell them their houses ?!
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile over here police keep demolishing houses in the ghetto https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/policia-demolio-la-casa-de-la-lider-de-los-chingas-20189112550
mircea_popescu: speraking of great victories of the nato reich, https://www.abqjournal.com/953455/iraqi-forces-advance-on-islamic-state-held-western-mosul.html?amp=1
mircea_popescu: the time to kowtow before the golden boy is when the golden boy is seven years old. by the time he's fifteen...
mircea_popescu: as i was saying : pantsuit gotta learn that if it doesn't bend over and squirt ~OODLES~ of money when it has the chance, it'll be bent over and fucked with farming implements later on.
mircea_popescu: well ? how EXACTLY did the entire "torzilla development community" spring up ? what the fuck is a lindsey kuper ?
mircea_popescu: quite. and we'll have another nigglet that invented the clock. except it'd be isis thersephina-abdul or some retarded dumb shit like that.
asciilifeform: the 'libreboot' derps would prolly crawl over it like flies on shit.
asciilifeform: i think i get the idea tho
asciilifeform: ( right nao, what's in there is a plagiarized gentoo )
asciilifeform: sorta what they do currently, neh
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, they'll sell free ubuntu lappy.
asciilifeform: for my education, plox to elaborate then?
BingoBoingo: At least I dun have to worry about them running down here. The price of vasoline in Uruguay is its own rape.
mircea_popescu: time to learn that there's a time to grease, if one aims to avoid anal rape lubed in own blood.
mircea_popescu: cocksuckers somehow managed to conjure up imaginary millions for donations to try and drown out http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/ ; i don't recall the mns in donations post phuctor, for instance.
mircea_popescu: let them have to spend some of the fiatola chinese give them to even evaluate the claim that it works. no free food for criminals.
mircea_popescu: let s.nsa sell the laptops and that'll be good enough.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno that i'd publish that much of the thing. what's that buy, usual amstan tards doing the republic-with-serials-filed-off innovation ?
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/current_c101pa_main.bin << current contents of the W25Q64DW rom.
asciilifeform: what all of this means, is that i can try payloads for the main fw, without needing to buy a train car full of mobos
asciilifeform: google's published flashrom util dunwork, i have one patched by hand, that worx via my http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2415 snake . will eventually publish the whole shebang, once i have working payload.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thing needs a working port of uboot , that actually inits the iron
asciilifeform: nao i need a payload (i.e. substitute for that 8MB turd the thing comes with.) lessee what phf meanwhile came up with.
lobbes: asciilifeform: here's my current WIP vpatch (the one that was used to produce egogg >> http://www.lobbesblog.com/src/logbot_command_router_python/v/patches/logbot_command_router_python_genesis.vpatch
asciilifeform: lobbes: can you paste the complete input plox ?
asciilifeform: loox like the patch was from a broken vdiff.sh ??
lobbes: Is there something I'm missing? I pressed using mod6's V and created the vpatch using the "classic" vdiff described in http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system
lobbes: odd thing is, everything seems to have pressed fine. And when I manually run sha512sum on the problem file the hash matches what V was expecting >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SnHoK/?raw=true
lobbes: question for the V experts out there: I was test pressing a vpatch genesis I created and ran into an odd barf ('Pressed file hash did not match expected!') >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5d1u/?raw=true
asciilifeform: but theoretically i have 'testlab mode' going
asciilifeform: i mean, replacement payload for the fritz
asciilifeform: in other noose, i have what appears to be a cured c101pa.
mircea_popescu: us presidents make astonishing gimp bitches, don't they!
mircea_popescu: anywya, the trump-kim pics are pretty epic.
mircea_popescu: there's plenty to read, you won't soon run out.
mircea_popescu: and yes, it developed. today you could've witnessed a guy going to qatar of all places, on the basis of exactly that system of secure & persistent pseudonimity.
mircea_popescu: kristof welcome to... 2014. http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
kristof: The idea of a federated system of secure, persistent identity (where people are friendly until proven otherwise) is such a fantastic idea and they waste all of their time on a half baked walled garden.
asciilifeform: or, for the dedicated entomologist, full cycle : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=130 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1309 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1361 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 .
kristof: I won't even bother because I have no faith in those people at all.
kristof: Oh, actually, while I have your attention, I thought I would mention that I did check out Urbit twice; the first was a few years ago back when they were still "ship", the second was maybe a year ago and that time I actually chatted a bit with those folks
asciilifeform: kristof: if your main news intake was yc or some other heathen pit, it will be quite new to you.
asciilifeform: kristof: you will find a large cache of 'wait, that happened' material in the #t logs.
kristof: The only reason I was in #asciilifeform today was that I finally read all the phuctor phun in its entirety (yes, I was being a bonehad and didn't read the stats, sorry MP), thought "wait, that happened?" and dropped by.
kristof: I don't intend to be chatty, but I might in the future. Hopefully that doesn't sound like squatting to you.
asciilifeform: kristof: most n00bs read logs for a while before they find that they have something to say.
kristof: I like logs, I might browse them.
asciilifeform: kristof: you will prolly want to read the logs, http://btcbase.org/log/ , chances are you will find something of interest.
BingoBoingo: Indeed drives are waiting in the bilge for instructions
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo has taken delivery of the samsung disks, so the box can be expanded to full size when mircea_popescu & diana_coman give the signal
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's the beta-cuntoo box working out , btw ?
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : minigame was going to work both an infinite-items and an infinite-lands update ; they kinda need the new client protocol (mostly to do on-demand content delivery) ; which is waiting for... cuntoo!
asciilifeform: selfish how ? great satan bombed mircea_popescu's castle there ?
asciilifeform: somehow they all do this.
kristof: I'm busy at the moment
kristof: Some other time
asciilifeform: i can entirely see the 'pocket of sanity besieged by pantsuit t-cells' angle
mircea_popescu: (for the naive log reader wondering "what's with all the rhodesia references", http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/#selection-193.0-193.108 )
mircea_popescu: kristof http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:24 kristof: am I wrong to think that, you know, a responsible journalistic community would pick up on this, and the security community would henceforth start a widespread auditing effort of existing toolchains, right?
mircea_popescu: the direct cause is literally that i perceive i owe rhodesia something.
mircea_popescu: audit the govt's computers, get the usg piezos out ? make websites that don't take FIVE SECONDS TO LOAD, like EVERY SINGLE "sales" website of EACH brick-and-mortar sex shop in chicago ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect qatar is deeply starved of world class talent. what specifically will it do i don't know, but i expect something along the lines historical experience. what did the germans do in russia, the spanish in tenochtitlan, the british in india and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what exactly the partnership will do ? ( and... 10% of what )
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 16:23 trinque: than over w/e beer money on the shared hosting
mircea_popescu: if anyone wants to buy in the 10% btw, i'll consider a minority partner. (note however that you will be assessed whatever we end up spending. which won't be a fortune, at least by the looks of it so far, but also not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846193 )
mircea_popescu: alright. well, that'll be the first order of business, scout the place, register company, avoid the usual "we got ourselves a sucker" traps.
mircea_popescu: Mocky do you have any fambly however remote in or about that could be re-connected ? a local will prove invaluable, and somehow i suspect the traditional "go to local uni, pick up young filly" isn't comfortable either for you or for the place.
diana_coman: congrats on the new adventure Mocky !
mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can't be done ?
mircea_popescu: Mocky im not going to hold against you that you gotta pay alimony, you're not going to hold against me that i'm getting a larger share of our partnership! you get 40% of the thing (but work as if you had gotten 50%!!!) and alimony, i get 60% and there you go.
Mocky: I think that i can pull together enough to get me thru January
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm talking cairo sandalwood mosq, built before they invented america. not bs ersatz-by-Eszterhas new world bs.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 15:53 mircea_popescu: in fact, thinking about it, me and you might be the ONLY TO people present who've even ever been inside a mosque
mircea_popescu: maybe the reason you two split up is you not giving her any credit.
Mocky: on a side note, evidently my ex is a log reader now, got the question last month "are you in Uruguay?" now expecting to get question "you in qatar?"
mircea_popescu: in fact, thinking about it, me and you might be the ONLY TO people present who've even ever been inside a mosque
mircea_popescu: moreover, success/failure yes/no is not so much the point. pizarro bought the failed remains of the previous attempt, and so on.
mircea_popescu: you understand, new businesses fail at an amazing rate, perhaps only comparable to new pregnancies (btw, any of the "right of life" dorks ever stopped to consider 1% of so of all sperm+egg combos ever make it the first WEEK ?). the point's not success, at the onset, the point's a) no obvious failure causes and b) a determination to give it a fair run.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-30 07:37 mircea_popescu: so they send another spy, and... well... same deal. and then more and more. eventually they ask a defector, and the guy smikrs and says "perhaps you might try not sending black people ?"
mircea_popescu: you look like one of them.
Mocky: lets see, never been, don't speak lang, never started a business, in what way could i actually be a good partner other than willing to go?
mircea_popescu: if you do get anywhere with it, i'll squeeze this beedog here to go join you, so you have a sort of "mega engineer achievement unlocked" built in. and after that i guess i'll even chip in so you buy a prepubescent wife in the countryside.
Mocky: i don't allah. i pantomimed allahing in mosques in my youff when visiting family. no arabic either
Mocky: came a breath away from visiting Kuwait in the drivers seat of a tank, but never actually arrived. No other even near misses.
mircea_popescu: speaking of being politically correct, hey Mocky ! you ever visited the near/middle east ? do you allah ?
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Qatar likes their old friends Turkey et al
mircea_popescu: dood did the hussein bahamas thing, got fucked in the ass came back home declared victory.
asciilifeform: so what's the nifty thing in qatar, i think i missed
mircea_popescu: go there, start corp with a local or two, get some "regional" contracts.
BingoBoingo: And looks like Iran actually has fairly respectable wall around their compound
BingoBoingo: Miraflores 1467, 11500 Montevideo << Or take the Omníbus out to Carrasco
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they dun seem to have a pubkey, so difficult to ask'em
mircea_popescu suspects nobody can ever find out whether yes or no till they WALK UP TO HER AND SAY HI
BingoBoingo suspects Iran would be happy to have a alf in their cyberwank saltmines on a part time contract
mircea_popescu: "i can't go talk to girls until i get a good job and have a house and another girl whose place they'd take and children and i am dead and buried already"
asciilifeform: [ insert 'a: i have no megabux, can only live where there is guaranteed work' m:'fu, have better parents, eat nagant' thread here ]
jurov: And yes, it's reverse cache problem. The move is in progress but this week i was mostly afk, will continue on it first thing today.
asciilifeform: ( genuine, imho, if dimwitted, enemy of the reich )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i confess that i actually am fond of the ancient ml format. no stylesheets, no buttons, just 80col text. << i've grown pretty fond of it too.
mircea_popescu: ah, figures further mucked up by a manually deleted mocky comment, i recall.
mircea_popescu: well... at LEAST 62k, there's some classes of rejects i can't count.
asciilifeform: having not yet read mpwp, i cannot say further
mircea_popescu: the "no web login" was interesting, but hm.
asciilifeform: i like the idea of eternal 0effort spam genocide tho.
mircea_popescu: the "secret string" of email seems sufficient./
asciilifeform: they have header, so why is this even megaproblem
asciilifeform: then jpg or gohome
mircea_popescu: i use jpg all the time, for excellent reasons.
mircea_popescu: the problem is though... things like pics. wtf i'd do about those ?
asciilifeform: i tried to write one of these
mircea_popescu: take email out ALTOGETHER.
hanbot: mircea_popescu i'd be happy to try, though i doubt i could deliver in the rightnao sorta timeframe lack of ml suggests.
asciilifeform: well, it dispenses with the pretense of 'www login state' which imho is a win.
asciilifeform: ( rather 'malbolge' exercise tho imho )
asciilifeform: whole reason i ended up baking the www end in py
asciilifeform: pretty sure nobody has any other gpg eater than callout to koch
asciilifeform: ( recall, i was never able to use the email knob on jurov's box reliably at all, but instead use www intake hopper )
asciilifeform: i confess that i actually am fond of the ancient ml format. no stylesheets, no buttons, just 80col text.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, can have comments, can have users made for anyone,
mircea_popescu: for one thing, mpwp admits post-by-email, which'd be 100% replication of that state of the art, w/o any clever scripts
asciilifeform: theoretically yes
mircea_popescu: mod6 could it be maybe time to repatriate mailing list into mpwp format ? i mean, is there any advantage to sticking to email process ?
asciilifeform: ( tho i expect that if i ever do, it will more than pay back for the lack of any to date, and take the form of cork-lined cellar )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 00:22 mircea_popescu: dollar to doughnuts, uppity female that's not being beaten enough at home ended up spuriously involved in the process.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846365 << the truly astonishing twist, is that asciilifeform not once yet had problem with swift tx.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I have placed the signed STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS on my site, if you wish to read: http://www.mod6.net/2018/September/1/btcf_address_201808.txt
mod6: The BTC-Dev Mailing List is still down...
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: do you have a preference re wire or WU (see above) << Either works
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself.
mircea_popescu: very similar to, "what was the fucking problerm with namecheap ?" " http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/ aka, uppity" "and with fetlife ?!" " http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 aka THE FUCKINBG SAME!!" "and with everything else ?" "you guessed it... start beating the sheherd."
mod6: the DC needs a wire direct tho.
mod6: we should ask him, I'm under the impression that doing stable wires to his bank actually shows "stability" and helps with his residency or whatever.
trinque: *WU rather
mircea_popescu: we should not have permitted the whole house to be termited up, but then again, we did. in the sense dumbass dad did, anyway.
mircea_popescu: problem is, there's SO DAMNED MANY of them these days, structural measures gotta be taken.
mircea_popescu: dollar to doughnuts, uppity female that's not being beaten enough at home ended up spuriously involved in the process.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 21:45 mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm sorry, but ima have to refund you. whole exercise turned into a massive pile of idiocy. im closing an entire bank out of the loop over their idiotic misbehaviour ; we'll have to try this again later on.
trinque: what was the problem y'all had with receiving?
mod6: ah, i see, so for instance trinque could say, "selling 4000 USD for ECU", exactly like yourself with the last one
mircea_popescu: yes, and that's fine, however a "by hand" approximation of bot function is nutty. doing flight "by hand" means flapping wings like birds, not trying to fart hot gasses like jet engine. sewing by hand means, with needle, not trying to do sewing machine. and dealing by hand dun mean "let's make noises like an auction bot by moving fingers on kbd", just talk to whoever set it up without the formalism.
mod6: I guess, either that, or we just wait until lobbes is ready.
mod6: lol. I'd rather not do it that way. I'd love to use the bot, but sometimes gotta do things by hand when we don't have the tools.
mod6: people just bid by saying what their bid is in #trilema.
lobbes: however I ended up purging the znc user and all traces from the thing. Coming live now from irssi from pizarro shared hosting (used danielpbarron's spiffy guide >> http://danielpbarron.com/2018/irssi-on-pizarro-shared-hosting/)
mircea_popescu: instead ~he~ gotta auction the fiatola.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 22:25 mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to distinguish selling and buying auctions. change the "A#285" lede into either "B#285" or "S#285" and then if it's a S have it work as it works now, but if it's a B have it work ~reverse~, so smaller bids overbid larger bids.
mod6: We could do some sort of open outcry auction in here. Where Pizarro auctions off 1 BTC, and the winner send funds to specified destinations.
mod6: as soon as I have one, I'll be sending out the invoices immediately.
mod6: trinque: yeah, not sure how that'd work. i'd like to see more price points. but if we can't receive dollars bought, then I dunno.
mircea_popescu: trinque i think you have to do it ; reverse auction still not there.
trinque: hey mod6, when's the next auction?
BingoBoingo: lol, I just can't believe this chicken I've never met cheated my out of the good stuff
asciilifeform: in other lulz, the 'bernstein as nsa stooge' concept slowly percolates from the republic, https://sporaw.livejournal.com/538323.html
BingoBoingo: So I'm putting together my healthy 4 egg veggie scramble, and one of the eggs didn't have a yolk
mircea_popescu: you don't. the cowsies just wanna.
asciilifeform: in some places they guard'em, but usually not (picture the cost), typically proprietor figures that monkeying near hv lines is self-punishing
mircea_popescu: can prolly even bury stuff along the lines. nobody will ever fucking find.
asciilifeform: for these, frying pan wound with magnet wire ~at ground level~, as tuned circuit, is actually enuff
asciilifeform: i'd avoid ^ these , cable with multi-kV insulation aint cheap
asciilifeform: even on street light line. certainly enuff to run just about anything you might care to fit in the box.
mircea_popescu: but yes, judging by how ubiquitous "computer mouse thrown over power lines" are in urban environment (when it's not sneakers, at any rate) might be very practical approach -- put the inductive coil in the mouse cable ; and the transmitter in the body.
asciilifeform: think back to the old-school noncontact ac voltmeter, same principle.