mircea_popescu: "i met hanbot ; life changed thereon
diana_coman: I'm actually impressed that the chateaubriand did not feature on 2nd place at least, lol
diana_coman: from his point of view and at further prodding it sort of turned out that monkeys are funny, macaws are nice and the ocean + sand ok but by far the most interesting and important is meeting Hannah
diana_coman: I can't say I don't see his logic there
diana_coman: in other travelling news: child was asked what did he see in costa rica? and he answered truthfully : he saw...Hannah aka hanbot
mircea_popescu: the cab driver with a leningrad doctorate, gone to new york to "this is america!" is almost endearing ; the iowa farm girl gone to new york to "i r become a writer" is just...
mircea_popescu: to a large degree for the same fgucking reason, i suppose : that it only ever existed in the mind of a very select few, who however didn't have the excuse of poverty, or of distance, or of so very many other things that protect the rusophone moron from the full brunt of his wilful stupidity.
mircea_popescu: vhs america might be ridoinculous enough, in its evanescent existence in the mind of a very selected few (principally, sovblok immigrants) ; but "cultural marxism" america is holy shit hysterical.
mircea_popescu: e just that, ideals, AND THEREFORE WONT YOU AGREE FAGGOTS ARE HUMAN TOO!!!
mircea_popescu: in random lulz : i re-watched flawless (of http://trilema.com/2013/the-typologies-of-homosexuality-reprint/#selection-153.28-153.74 fame) and omfg is it a piece of agitprop to make sovfilm proud! the drag queen may be a female impersonator, but the "retired hero cop" (ie, very much a http://trilema.com/2018/the-night-of-the-hunter/#selection-133.0-133.544 type character) "is a male impersonator". because see, gender ideals ar
a111: 2018-08-23 <phf> 1st of emigres to go straight into natostan * were serious world-class talent, others worked cashier jobs
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf lemme know if you want the magic pill recipe + patched flashrom util for c101pa .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what are these ?
mircea_popescu: aand in other news, fatty galore meet egon wheels.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 18:05 mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : Margot Asquith (very much a stupid cunt, of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810279 pile of garbage) once met hane jarlow, who promptly mispronounced her name. to which the "wit" cleanly retorted : "no, no, the t is silent, like in harlow".
asciilifeform: ( or to use trad terminology, 'bricked'. tho i have 'unbricker' nao, possibly the only one outside of the inca palace for this iron )
asciilifeform: the biggest headache is to get to where ~something~ gets shat forth from the rk uart.
asciilifeform: interestingly, the dram init turd differs from the stock rk3399. and doesn't seem to be published in their repo. i'd like to try ripping theirs, but so far not even able to determine where it ends and their booter begins
mircea_popescu: maybe not even bother building it, just scan through
asciilifeform: initially i assumed that stock rk3399 uboot will do ~something~ detectable, even tho it lacks support for the lcd or the oddball kbd chip, given as i have uart
asciilifeform: all i really need from the bootrom is to do what uboot on pogo did, i.e. see the disks ( internal ssd, usb, sd ) , read some classic partitions ( e.g. ext3 ), load kernels ( in human, not google, format ) and present pogo-style uboot cmdline for these.
asciilifeform: some of which aint in the demo rk3399
asciilifeform: it isn't so much a 'clever' but that there's a whole pile of iron drivers
mircea_popescu: get an idea of whereabouts they've been clever.
mircea_popescu: whether some magic bitpile goes in somewhere, for instance.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 23:41 asciilifeform: one possible path could be to start with google's crapola 'depthcharge' booter src, but it won't build (tried) with standard tooling, and currently i haven't a box where to put their horror show
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 15:10 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what i dun get , is what all of these folx are hoping to find here. outside of the flies model, i got nuffin.
asciilifeform: asked in the derp chan, https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-09-07#23015323 , just on the off chance, but i expect 0 answer beyond the usual amstan type , i.e. 'fuck off and eat vendor liquishit'
asciilifeform: one possible path could be to start with google's crapola 'depthcharge' booter src, but it won't build (tried) with standard tooling, and currently i haven't a box where to put their horror show
asciilifeform: the reason for this, i do not know, could be the gcc6 idjicy (my uboot , once i nixed the check for gcc6, builds without eggogs, but who's to say re output), or could be wrong magic turd, or who the fuck knows
asciilifeform: in other noose, not only reading but writing the c101pa's boot rom worx. however, a build of rk3399 demo uboot does ~not~ bring up anyffing that produces debug uart output.
asciilifeform: mod6: i enabled root login on the thing with temporary pw, lessee if it comes up
asciilifeform: 'eat stone soup, contributing the stone' or how did mircea_popescu formulate it.
BingoBoingo: Everyone wants to hang out with the cool kids?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what i dun get , is what all of these folx are hoping to find here. outside of the flies model, i got nuffin.
rain2: you've spent a lot of lines insulting me so if I may respond? you seem to have made totally false assumption about me. I just thought it was an interesting topic and that people would be interested here. I stopped talking about it when they said it was uninteresting. No need to paint me like some adversary.. I just wanted to talk to fun people.
asciilifeform: prolly is all there is to be said on subj.
asciilifeform: ( hey pests! perhaps some of you can read ? guess wat, 'delish food smell' + 'inexplicably none of my kind in there' means 5000 volts! )
asciilifeform: notably, larger pests, e.g. racooons, seem to be smarter, they've mostly stopped showing up.
asciilifeform: it is simply how flies are, they move ~randomly
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my house dun have an airlock, so sometimes flies go in. they neither know or care that the only thing waiting for flies inside is 5000 volts.
BingoBoingo: Ah like the Mario 'I R Hakkker fellow'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm willing to talk to 'hey i read ffa and in ch4 you missed this-here obvious optimization, here's proof'. but 'hi i am reddit, hear me roar' can go the fuck perma-away.
BingoBoingo: lol, the no talking to stangers thing has been a standard for at least a couple years now
asciilifeform: the wives, in this model
mircea_popescu: they became sad.
asciilifeform: i.e. unbeat, they brought up lewises?
mircea_popescu: well, you never know, world's not exactly a lab. but it seems to me the beating is at the core of it.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't a "moral" or ethical concern that did it, either. it was sheer disinterest.
asciilifeform: ( or do i misframe the q, and it simply exhausted its allotted life tank )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform husbands stopped beating their wives.
mircea_popescu: stage 2 : the french grasp that the end of feudalism is not "progress", but literal "the end", proceed to huge party called napoleon ; the brits copy them some half century later, except their idea of a party is victorian england
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the britain-france paralleles are amusing. stage 1 : the french decide to end feudalism in bloodshed ; the brits copy them same half century later, escept the bloodshed is of maidenheads, in industrialist's beds ;
mircea_popescu: "From the 1750s, as with other Oxford colleges, standards dropped." << i'd say for the record that's about the right cutoff. by the time victorian period was starting, poor oxford was well threadbare already.
diana_coman: I must say that I read lewis' narnia very late, mainly to see what the whole buzz was all about but it seemed a very poor and sorry thing to me so I still don't know what is supposed to be amazing about it
mircea_popescu: but yes, this "choosing" thing's pretty much the only thing left in the anglotard mind. they'll fuzz you out!
diana_coman: that's what it sounded to me too although I'd have thought there was more than "they know stuff" to whatever reputation there might be there; then again, sorrying one's way out of answering a question is the same pick and choose approach so not surprising
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 10:31 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that Kirk fellow sounds great and I'd rather have read something written by him than lewis
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848469 << http://archive.is/A0d5e ; not much remains, even his biography has the fat fagot's face instead.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i suppose we have a "reputation" among the script kiddies ahem i mean "hackers" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: on the flip side, the lengthy need to watch the join/parts entirely evaporated ; erryone can just turn that off and never again mind it.
diana_coman: the name faintly sounded a bell and he had actually been in here before but just like this time failed to have any real reason for having voice; anyways, it was still older habit at work, no longer appropriate
mircea_popescu: the implication of upping someone is that you've been personally training them, and they've been personally serving you, for some strech sufficient enough so that either a) you can answer my questions about them to my satisfaction or else b) fail a you judge your unrating them is sufficient undoing for their sins.
diana_coman: rain2, do you have anything else to say? tricks get tiresome rather quickly
diana_coman: rain1, you know, since you work on some code projects, why don't you play eulora and work any tricks you want with the client code there - perhaps even the sort of tricks that can give your char an edge so you earn actual bitcoin
diana_coman: rain1, ok, so you want to do some trick that some other guy did; but still not clear how does it ...matter
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that Kirk fellow sounds great and I'd rather have read something written by him than lewis
rain1: someone did a trick where they put some text in the filename, kinda like how you get novelty bitcoin addresses. and i was wondering how to do it
diana_coman: rain1, no need to be sorry, just answer the question
rain1: I wanted to ask if anybody knew how twitter image filenames were derived from the file content. there's a bit of info about the url structure but no explanation which hash algorithm is used
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-06#1848344 << if they STILL don't burn down the us "embassy" / stick in the salt mines any lizzard-looking dork...
BingoBoingo: I am explaining to the Peruana that you have boats
BingoBoingo: Well, there's only one real police. Airport security is the airforce and water/beach security is the Navy/Tourism police
mircea_popescu: ahaha they give aks to traffic police ?!
BingoBoingo: Well, there also aren't cars here. And the policia was directing trafffic with their AK's so my first though was one of the Cambios was robbed
mircea_popescu: what then!!! it'll suck!!!
mircea_popescu: this is like "oh, cancer... i don't have it". MAYBE ONE DAY YOU DO MOTHERFUCKER!!1
mircea_popescu: they should never have told orcs about 1 way streets. they're not ready for the magic yet.
BingoBoingo: Construction site in question was on the Rambla so a bunch of one way streets were direction reversed to great confusion
BingoBoingo: Of course the inspectors are being very serious about how the wood scaffolding failed yesterday and not today
BingoBoingo: In still other news about 2 blocks away 10 construction workers fell, they just wanted to diy scaffolding...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but yes, "countryside". why the fuck would i bother, it's to ohot and too humid. << This and the marijuana is why Uruguay gets away with pretending to have an economy
mircea_popescu: let them learn to irc.
mircea_popescu: and certainly not fucking rio, and certainly not during the festival.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cheap negress & mulato whores dancing naked in the streets because why the hell not is one thing. but "organization" and pantsuitism-- never. << I have heard these places still exist in Brazil, but not from people who live there or who spend more than a couple days at a time.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck would i do without this thing ?! trilema is not possible without itself.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, this latest trilema piece references no less than fifty-six other trilema articles.
asciilifeform: oh ya and also these
mircea_popescu: cheap negress & mulato whores dancing naked in the streets because why the hell not is one thing. but "organization" and pantsuitism-- never.
BingoBoingo: They apparently have a lot of blue/pink haired fattys now
mircea_popescu: if the year were 1918, i'd definitely go. as it is, holy shit no.
mircea_popescu: i was going to go to rio, for about the same sort of "oh, great party!" naivite that had me go to argentina. in the light of experience i had the relevant parts researched, and now i know i don't want to go to the rio festival in the late 2010s anymore than i want to buy real estate in miami.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is specifically curious, re why brazil, afaik the 1 serious country in the whole landmass, is also half dour shithole ( asciilifeform's extended wot includes at least 1 d00d who went to brazil for physics conf and came back as 'cargo 200' , so i suspect the reputation aint entirely mythical )
asciilifeform: where was that mircea_popescu piece, with the electric heaters
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol wat plastic. i dun think the ar folx at this point can even make molds.
asciilifeform: it'd even begin to make sense if they bought'em up to make long pig pepperoni. but no, they buy to 'biznis as usual'
mircea_popescu: i can take argentines starving slightly later if they sink usg along.
BingoBoingo: Well, Chinese are buying all their frozen cows and Turks with their issues are still buying all their standing cows
BingoBoingo: August ended with the Argentine pesos still floating near parity with the peso Uruguayp http://bingology.net/2018/08/27/peso-watch-august-edition/
asciilifeform: iirc they venezuelaed as recently as '01. (shitholes apparently are rechargeable)
mircea_popescu: hopefully they venezuela before tghe decade's out.
mircea_popescu: one of the most satisfying things i ever did in my entire life was contribute my contribution to the ending of that shithole.
mircea_popescu: was 16 by the time i left, and i see coupla years ago it well... OFFICIALLY almost doubled, really more than tripled.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what was it at the time of c3, 13 ar.peso / 1 $ ?
mircea_popescu: (trump was proferring his "full support": for macri at the fmi. thoiugh i much doubt the fmi has any money to burn on that dead end)
mircea_popescu: that must rankle the argentards.
BingoBoingo: In other news, look at the "preferred" rate on the Argentine peso: 0.56-1.16 or in dollares 59.29-27.413
asciilifeform: ( jrrt, funnily, was the catholic )
mircea_popescu: so it's not the guy who "invented" orcs ?
asciilifeform: the narnia series.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, asciilifeform's intake of c. s. lewis was in 1991, he was not printed afaik in su, but hey, perestroika, and suddenly translated and printed on toiletpaper and sold at fleamarket by crypto-evangiderps. brother picked up the series, i barfed on vol.2 where lion jizzus dies 'for our sins', fin.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman further fixed ; say if you see even mora
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:31 mircea_popescu: there's a bit in the piece i am working right now which i'd like to reference ehre.
mircea_popescu: o btw, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847996 <<->> http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/#selection-579.558-589.38
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/ << Trilema - Surprised By Joy -- The shape of my early life. Adnotated.
asciilifeform: ( aint as if the boondoggle-station comes with dealership replacement warranty... )
ben_vulpes: in very-expensive-janitors-and-their-buckets-of-petrol nyooz: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/05/space-station-air-leak-someone-drilled-the-hole-say-russians
mircea_popescu: Mocky bear in mind that you live in gangland, and for some incomprehensible reason the mob decided to steal all moneys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remind me again, which is the short story with the "intelligence handicaps", loud whistles in ears and whatnot ?
Mocky: was shooting for half a dozen trades, but got an introduction to local trader via meat wot and I mentioned the total I'm selling
a111: Logged on 2018-09-06 14:54 Mocky: turns out, in NC you can make btc traders eyes pop out of their head by uttering the words 'two bitcoin'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-06#1848300 << if you go to dc say hi to either asciilifeform or pdf. or both!
BingoBoingo: And mod6 will invoice me for the Rockchip tonight
Mocky: turns out, in NC you can make btc traders eyes pop out of their head by uttering the words 'two bitcoin'
Mocky: great, uncovering the depth of local bitcoin market
mod6: (one of these days I gotta try out your miner.)
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 13:16 mircea_popescu: whenever man sits down to do anything, man discovers that he is in all likelihood the first man to have ever sat down to do that one thing.
mircea_popescu: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378452 : https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/ aaalmost.
mod6: Thanks for the info and consideration, Sir.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you want to pro-rate his warrants, you can do that. you want to kick them off the sheet altogether, "didn't complete a term", you can also do that. you want to let them ride, "whatever, he can have the lot", you can also do that.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-06 02:25 ben_vulpes: i believe it's topologically identical to a call option that doesn't expire with a strike price of the "per share price".
mircea_popescu: in any case, a ssw assignment is not the same as a cash payment.
mod6: im so hungry i could eat a sandwich from the gas station
ben_vulpes: once you understand double entry accounting it's not so difficult; glad the documentation made your life easier.
mod6: I'd like to commend ben_vulpes on his instructions that he gave to Pizarro for how to do the monthly report. It really got me through it -- and made it easy.
ben_vulpes: i'm mock offended at the notion i'd let a liability kick around off sheet
mod6: yeah, it was the SSWs. Totally forgot.
ben_vulpes: i believe it's topologically identical to a call option that doesn't expire with a strike price of the "per share price".
ben_vulpes: should i exercise them, the corporation takes in the btc i pay for them and adds them to the cap table.
mod6: No, not at all. I just don't want it to go unanswered either. For insance, it'd be fine with me (asciilifeform?) to simply just take 41`666 shares instead. mircea_popescu can we do that?
mod6: Hmm, well, I didn't want to just leave it out there forever, unanswered either. So, let me know what you want to do, and we'll discuss in here.
mod6: Oooh, I see what it is. In the charter you were to be assigned 100`000 SSW at a per share price of 0.00001 BTC each.
ben_vulpes: should probably just take the loot lest anyone accuse me of virtue signaling!
ben_vulpes: it's a sticky position, being stuck between my jewish scruples and having zero desire to ding the isp pointlessly.
mod6: Really? I'm almost certain that somewhere we said 1 BTC for doing the manager role.
mod6: That's what I was thinking ya. So instead of 1 BTC for a whole year, as previously agreed, we'd pay ya for the months that you served.
mod6: How we doin with the drive shipment btw?
mod6: Also in the news, Pizarro has fully paid the "Wildcat Bonus" to BingoBoingo. The remainder was $2500. This has been shown on Pizarro statements in the "Fiat Liabilities" table. It will appear on the August statement as well. The payment was made September 1st. So look for that line to come off the fiat liabilities table when the September report is posted in early October.
mod6: Also, another bit of news: I've completed a draft of the Pizarro report. We're needed three more pieces of information and a second pair of eyes for review before it can be published. We're on it.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:40 asciilifeform: there are reportedly folx who want to somehow 'be' horses, or dogs, etc. also.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, well, I'll have him give it a try then.
mod6: The exception will be, I will invoice BingoBoingo myself as one can not invoice himself (at least, I don't think you can)?
mod6: BingoBoingo will begin sending out invoices within 24 hours, for the month of September. If you need a price quote before they go out, I can arrange that.
mod6: We have set a price point for the month at Pizarro as well, that price is: $6745 USD/BTC
mod6: I propose that's what we pay ben_vulpes for his services; five months, February through June. And, I propose a possible consulting fee for his assistance on the books going forward.
mod6: He has accepted the rate of 1 BTC per year for this role.
mod6: In other news: Today is BingoBoingo's first day as Pizarro Manager. Congrats to him! We'll be working closely together to ensure a smooth transition over the next few months.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, the ML is back up and running. I just want to formally post the State of Bitcoin Address for August: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000309.html
asciilifeform: btw interestingly, the most recent uboot ~builds~ on ave1's gnat, if one comments out the boobytrap. ( whether the resulting turd ~runs~, i do not yet know, but it builds without eggog)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's nuffin left in the old wood but the termites, and this ^ is what they look like. quite typical.
mircea_popescu: "Linux is the de facto standard operating system kernel at the core of leading products. Konsulko Groups experience in embedded Linux architecture, development, build/CI, QA, and maintenance will help you speed your Linux-based products to market."
asciilifeform: 'Move the warning to an error as we have been promising would happen in this release. Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>'
asciilifeform: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/843954/ << dec '17, the moment of liquishitification
trinque: but that's certainly the way to go
asciilifeform: eventually we napalm the old portage/emerge.
asciilifeform: but will have to saw off the board support for rk3399, and weld onto it somehow.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 15:03 mp_en_viaje: basically a novel vector of imperial attack seems to be this "let's take republican items and ~EXPAND~ the downstream so that siberian river attack is then feasible".
asciilifeform: upstack, https://archive.is/WMoLv (warning: entomologists only) << the how&why of uboot 'gcc5+ only' idjicy. tldr: gcc5 silently broke uboot on arm. so the latter was 'fixed' so as to... ONLY gcc5+. in the now-customary way.
mircea_popescu: then not had.
mircea_popescu: i'm just being intolerable for the sake of it. "good thing you have them, they don't work."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had'em for the ice40 thing, which demands such horrors as python3 etc
asciilifeform: even on the specially-designated toilet with gcc8 etc
mircea_popescu: good thing you have them.
asciilifeform: i.e. i was not able to build uboot on ANY of my boxen, even on the toilets where gcc5+ exists
asciilifeform: in other noose, trad-gentoo's crossdev is completely rotten nao, tries to build glibc-2.27 (which is broken, as it won't build with any version of 'ld' i was able to find, full stop) EVEN WHEN YOU CROSSDEV ....linux-musl !!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1848124 << sure did. story is in the l0gz somewhere.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ << updated, for the minutely minded.
mircea_popescu: neither anecdotes nor myths are a practicable basis for science ; but they're as fine a basis as there could be had for discussion.
mircea_popescu: if it were presented as a "true" story, like so many other items actually so presented on trilema, with documentation unassailable and so on, then it'd have counted for what, an anecdote ?
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, I can believe that a couple of rentacops sucked you off, but if it is not a true story - as you said (even in the title), then how does it all connect?
idint: ah okay, i understood what's you're about, just another typical deliberate cunts found on freenode.
mircea_popescu: teh age of "hi i am mario of so-and-so fiat concern" ended sometime this summer. talk to a lord, make yourself useful, #trilema is not open to the general public.
BingoBoingo: Topic: You have reached the public forum of The Most Serene Republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the creation of a safe space for the elites to productively defect to, leaving the pantsuit stranded behind. If you'd like to help see http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ . This channel is logged.
BingoBoingo: idint: Do you have any questions for the group? Otherwise we can carry out the getting to know you chat in #agriculturalsupremacy
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There is, #agriculturalsupremacy
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is there a #bingo ?
nicoleci: diana_coman, ahh good point. ill keep that in mind, if i ever do find someone who can read the text
diana_coman: nicoleci, it might help to start looking at it from the other end: figure out what makes an effective policeman in the given context, compare it with what the "exam" actually tests even in the best case and then see how it fits otherwise with reality in the field; then again, I guess finding someone to read that 1 post might be faster at least
mircea_popescu: the many blessings of illiteracy -- drives one to make friends, for instance.
mircea_popescu: it's not speaking to female capacity ; women can certainly be my enforcers to great benefit, for instance. but as far as the "ourdemocracy" state is concerned, women very much can't be useful policemen ; not just because of the obvious http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/antifa.gif but also because say http://trilema.com/2010/poveste-neadevarata/
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:42 mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall the complaint of the police a few years ago that "you've got all these written exams, now we're stuck making police agents out of girlies, god help us" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:02 asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of the evidence was the computrace nonsense
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes BingoBoingo has it, the "expert witness" is perhaps the prime manner through which pantsuit state maintains both pretense of justice and pretense of its own relevancy. judge judges "correctly" on "the basis of evidence" and "evidence" is carefully curated. ye olde "toxic facts / fake news" approach to utopianism.
asciilifeform: freisler, for instance, was 'prosecuting cases' right up until the roof caved in on him
asciilifeform: when chinese tanks on harvard lawn, then i expect yes will brought other way. but not until.
asciilifeform: ( recall the nsa room201 lawsuit and how ended ? )
BingoBoingo: Hence the appellate wank
mircea_popescu: wel lfor one thing that'd open the whole civil liability can of worms
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun recall 1 single case of 'd00d kidnapped from orcistan, brought to washington, tried, ...and then acquitted'
BingoBoingo: Well, the US courts discussion is always a process of papering over "having been stolen from"
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta keep the "expert witness" racket going
asciilifeform: 'The appeals judges' decision reflected a similar one back in 2011 by the third circuit (United States v. Bansal) where a witness testified "from personal knowledge" how the Wayback Machine worked and how reliable it was. The court decided this provided "sufficient proof" that its mirrored pages were authentic.' << apparently old noose eh
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/us-appeals-court-rules-unauthenticated-web-page-archives-now-evidence/ << Qntra - US Appeals Court Rules Unauthenticated Web Page Archives Now Evidence
asciilifeform: even in wasp hive, not errybody smells the pheromone right away, and recalcitrants 'won't yield', keep on laying 'illicit' eggs etc for a spell
mircea_popescu totally sees it, signing a "i deeply regret all these usg politrucks did not see the wisdow in time" eventually.
mircea_popescu: "so unfortunate we totally had to shoot these idiots who just http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 21:39 asciilifeform: the janitor with a pail of petrol, is a t-cell, killing off inca cancer, whether knows it or not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, they all put forth the same pretense, hitler's "take over without breaking as much as a windowpane" very neatly mirrors calvin's "condemnation" of the 1524 wehrmacht.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even yarvin has the sense to correctly put him with muntzer et al
mircea_popescu: not hitler's sort of problem, "the world's incorrectly cut up"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the issues the child is struggling with is that he had no dad to take him hunting,
mircea_popescu: (technically, he just shot some random old driver and some cosmonauts, but w/e. dood was going to take over govt by himself and shit, there's a difference between infantilism and insanity.)
asciilifeform: this is the part that never made sense to me, why random derps
asciilifeform: if there is a substantive diff, it is not obvious to me
mircea_popescu: the range wars in the very us raged in living memory as an exact manifest of this whole thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe that happened. the difference i propose is that for him, said "butchering" is an asimptote, the mind never quite reaches it. which is how they end up believing that "i pick up gun and start shooting" is the ~end~ state.
mircea_popescu: so remote is this "delectable pork sausage" in fact, that scarcely he perceives the difference between waving gun out of suv window and shooting some innocent bastard.
asciilifeform: hey, whatever else has been said of elliott, the man did in the end seize the fire of butchery from the gods ( even if burned up in it quickly )
mircea_popescu: i suspect something like http://trilema.com/2012/in-atentia-igppa-autodenunt/ & http://trilema.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/ may be controlling. mp knows full well that he can butcher for no reason and with no consequence ; and will to make a point. but this is utterly inconceivable to elliott, who trul
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/theranos-wind-down-announced-overnight/ << Qntra - Theranos Wind Down Announced Overnight
mircea_popescu: nothing's nearly as drastic in fact as the "preparative" imagination promised.
mircea_popescu: in any case, it might be that the "decolonialization" sudden failure of europe has had the undiagnosed effect of removing fundamental mechanisms required for male maturation, leaving a sort of unstable state. perhaps the case is boys could manage just fine, if there was some sort of resource available to explain that... i don't even know, whatever the fuck, that it's ok to be a boy and it'll work out in the end.