asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by all appearances the 'free men on free soil' folx are http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849132 -stupid. without (to date) any detectable exceptions.
mircea_popescu: i suppose, in a degenerate case. my original example was "business" of a certain sort of "free man on free soil" outlook, like "online casino" or whatever other mlm-for-the-2010s things.
asciilifeform: or, say, theo de raadt & bob beck pair
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:29 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
mircea_popescu: "their power and capital". because http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 "never happened", especially if you wish it really hard to not have.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
asciilifeform: aaa so ~indeed~ the lichen-fungus symbiont described by mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: i dunno if i can correctly model the weevils writhing around in that skull, but imagine it went something like ' i was looking for new isp, not to change religions '
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the clearest 'schoolbook' example of folx suckered in by pseudorepublic, were the weev people
BingoBoingo: Aite, updated. Going to walk a bit and read where the forum discussion goes before seeing what the least shitty webirc is
mircea_popescu: understand : woman saying "i don't have sex" is a fine approximation of "i don't have sex [unless you convincingly ask me to]". meanwhile "i don't suck dicks without permission" connotes "well, you were passed out, i asked three times like the jews, in all directions, and as there was no answer i figured...welll... here's a dick..."
asciilifeform: but in principle there is no reason why a colo customer cannot seal his disks, so long as he understands that he will have to come in person and swap'em then
asciilifeform: we also swap disks for colo folx, if they supplied spares.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform take out "for any reason" then ?
a111: Logged on 2015-12-09 03:27 assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 19:36:34; mircea_popescu: <Naphex> https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is rather like if snail could speak, and was threatened with the loss of its shell, in the hot sun
BingoBoingo: Ah yes, Naphex welcomed Republic as customer of exchange he did for someone else. Then when he wanted to do HIS OWN camsite ran away to heathens
mircea_popescu: but yes, very much that's the problem, "threat of depersonalization", specifically as "what do you mean republic laughs at me and my http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/ "
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the name sounds familiar, but i think the bulk of him happened before asciilifeform tuned in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall this naphex character. possibly the best illustration of the concept republic's to date known (though he was doing iirc webcams or exchangesd or somesuch, not directly casinos. but -- just as marginal a cvasi-business)
asciilifeform: the 'TW' , 'educated' by decade of reddit and hn, is usually incapable of even considering 'tor is honeypot', it threatens 'depersonalization', sorta like pushing the hanging stool out from under feet. iirc naggum described this psychopathology at length.
mircea_popescu: because he can't rely on others, see ? the IM judges "well, there's concordance between the marketing copy on this webpage and what my TW is telling me" and the TW judges "well, nobod ycan be trusted anyway, here's my caesar cipher -- at least it is my own"
asciilifeform: typical exchange with these goes like, 'trng, what's that. tell me instead how is your tor onion hosting'
mircea_popescu: and the TW is very vulnerable in that a lifetime spent in his own coffin swimming in the liners has produced in him this ability to self-bless. so he's going to do "some secret trick" and that'll make it all good.
mircea_popescu: well, yes. in the exact sense "nobody got shot for buying ibm" : as far as IM is concerned, the marketing copy suffices, he doesn't understand the workings anyway and moreover is well inhabituated to not expect to understand.
asciilifeform: both types suffer from the sort of brain damage where they're readily taken in by pseudorepublic, where 'bulletproof hosting' served up on cisco and advertised with rounded corners www on rails etc
mircea_popescu: as a result the former perceive the need but don't know how to proceed and the latter antiperceive the need and well, the blind leading the thirsty results in many salty snacks.
mircea_popescu: the latter are a deeply asocial sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "exist in the world without a farcical self-secreted notion that you know what's going on".
mircea_popescu: the former are a deeply atechnical sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "compare these two items".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way that sort of thing works (it's "business" in a very limited and marginal sense) there's two kinds of marginals involved : "idea men" and "technical wizards".
asciilifeform: ( then again iirc there was a mircea_popescu thread where explained that these dun use trng at all, as matter of principle )
mircea_popescu: republic in being. very much the same mechanism as in "you don't need a buncha paperwork for pizarro, the forum can resolve disputes for you anyway"
asciilifeform: i admit that i was slightly surprised that there wasn't at least 1 casino etc d00d immediately banging on the door, of the only (afaik) isp that offers trng
mircea_popescu: moreover, there's nothing wrong with incomplete lists -- let the fellow come and ask, "oh, but what about Y! GOTCHA" only to not gotcha and therefore...
mircea_popescu: yes, but it's a decreasing scale of importance. every enumeration gotta stop sometime, and imo if one's not sold by those items adding more isn't the way to go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can you think of anything that oughta be in there, that aint mentioned above ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : imho we oughta add a 'we do not use bmc's' statement to the pizarro www .
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 15:30 mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning.
mircea_popescu: in being truth-which-is-self-evidently-true-and-not-open-to-doubt-on-any-possible-grounds, it then necessariyl is exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849101 "truth".
mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning.
asciilifeform: ( how did mircea_popescu formulate it earlier, 'if yer this stupid, a usg will coalesce out of the vacuum for you' )
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the word itself quite well connotes this.
mircea_popescu: so no, it's not that "apple this" and "microsoft that" and "war on web" bla bla bla. if you permit internet access to inflate, you end up with a bulk of morons who STILL have no business on the web, once theyr'e there, just like they had no business on it before they were there.
mircea_popescu: in short : i am saying that "the problems" that naive holdouts from the 80s and 90s perceive confront "the open web" are chiefly in their imagination. the truth of the matter is that the same sort of scum that creaded the 1950s pravda in the first place are simply re-implementing it out of "web" nowadays.
asciilifeform: they already have single pravda
mircea_popescu: but i seriously do not see the need for a "web" to support this nonsense. they'd be much better served by a single pravda.
mircea_popescu: eir opinion" to the "interviewer" evidently taxes the system, there's no substance there so it's just as well that there's no substance demanded downstream.
mircea_popescu: this evidently works well enough for the "what does the news mean to me" crowd, seeing how the vapid "celebrities" that can't fucking spell (lulzy case in mp household recently, as girl tried to bring testimony of uma thurman re her being mistreated, only to see her charge collapse under heavy laugther at how WOMAN CAN NOT SPELL) have ~nothing to say anyway. getting a bunch of soccer players to dress up in suits and speak "th
mircea_popescu: "William, Prince of Albania explained What is William, Prince of Albania? Explaining what we could find out about William, Prince of Albania. [Search domain everything.explained.today] everything.explained.today/William_of_Wied/" << check out this gem. "what they could find". guess how the could works.
mircea_popescu: wtf, why even have a "web" then.
asciilifeform: this is unremarkable, cargo cults ~always turn up with copies, there's never enuff actual fuselage frags to go around
mircea_popescu: truly this is a waste. turn off the web, it's weasting electricity bitcoin could put to better use.
mircea_popescu: we're approximately in the position where across the land there's museums dedicated to maintaining COPIES of original pieces of airplane fuselage fallen on the island.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck does the electricity need to be burned so the SAME EXACT fragment of cargo cult is repeated 50 times ?
mircea_popescu: BUT! the internet consists of a vast plurality of... EXACT COPIES.
mircea_popescu: the phrase originates from a nephew of the romanian king, temporarily mbret of albania. he left during ww1, cuz actual people were doing things, exactly like a 19yo would leave the 14yos he was playing with when the cheerleaders show up.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "other successes of the failed female state", let's look at https://duckduckgo.com/?q="he+deemed+it+necessary+to+absent+himself+temporarily."
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 14:54 mircea_popescu: "we found that the BMC code responsible for processing and applying firmware updates does not perform cryptographic signature verification on the provided firmware image before accepting the update and committing it to non-volatile storage."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849057 << note that if you plug the thing into net, anybody can push 'update' into it etc
mircea_popescu: (the whatnot above should probably be more explicit. let's say instead boers, belgians and whatnot)
mircea_popescu: it so totally pays to be one of these usgistani "investigative journalists"...
mircea_popescu: oh, and in "comunismu-ntii te-ajuta, tac tac tac, si apoi te executa pac pac pac" lulz : let's open our hymn books at the roger casement page. first knighted for "exposing" "atrocities" in usg's enemies at the time (boers and whatnot), was then hanged (and declared a faggot) for proposing the germans help liberate his homeland from usg in ww1.
mircea_popescu: "i have no money, no job, and Bernie has been the biggest political influence in my life"
mircea_popescu: they just wanted to.
mircea_popescu: "we found that the BMC code responsible for processing and applying firmware updates does not perform cryptographic signature verification on the provided firmware image before accepting the update and committing it to non-volatile storage."
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/lRDfh << supermicro bmc confirmed usg.porous. (there's a reason asciilifeform didn't plug'em in)
mircea_popescu: exactly like "fight for motherland!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the usg machinery is not powered by sense. if you didn't know you wanted to move to miami, hereby you find out. if you're not the sort who finds this out thusly, terrorist.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes. << It doesn't really come in much smaller packages. They go UP from here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most eyepopping nonsense was where timis was covered in 'win a flat in bucharest' ad crapolade
asciilifeform: ever since the flood
asciilifeform: (today there's an inner core of printolade-purchased glass boxes, outside of it - 1890s construction, some of it still with faded e.g. 'fine imported furst' stencil print on the smog-coloured walls )
asciilifeform: bucharest has maybe 6 blox that look like euro civ. the rest -- bananistan
asciilifeform: in related lulz, bu subway is almost exact copy of chicago's, at least in re the degree of rust and grime
asciilifeform found a decent turkish place in bu., was in outskirts, behind a playground where trees grew through the slide
mircea_popescu: trades so much on the latin underneath, i give you 0% chances!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:18 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845938 << this supposed untranslatability of ro, is illusory imho, translates just fine to ru and prolly other civilized tongues
asciilifeform: lotsa equally rusted/dusted monuments to 'shot during uprising', ads for german kindergartens, miscellaneous parts of ??? rusting on the ground (where are the metallists!?) , etc
asciilifeform: and also the other great marvel, the 1980s-looking autos, standing 'parked' near boarded-up (yes) city park, on blocks, solid block of rust
mircea_popescu: if only. that sounds rather serbian, much better.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-29 21:06 asciilifeform: picture, e.g, d00d in a bathrobe, in front of mercedes, hood popped, in one hand flashlight , in other - meat cleaver
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i rewatched http://trilema.com/2011/aurora/#selection-49.276-53.70 and the original comment very much stands. anyoen want to know why "romanians" (esp in the sense of "lives in bucharest cca 2010") should've been fucking shot...
asciilifeform: i could eat whole can ( but wouldn't , these days )
mircea_popescu: i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform prefers the ru-exported one, costs ~1.5x , sold in the same spots where sprats
mircea_popescu: usg is "how to go through the motions of doing things withouy doing anything" and usg "opposition" is "how to go through the motions of opposing usg, without fucking anything up for them". they're not all that substantially different.
asciilifeform: 'father gapon'
asciilifeform: so fully expect 'donations' to all go to google or whoever's in charge of sed s/terroristbtcaddr/reichsbtcbank packet-diddlage these days
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin has become the preferred payment method for Stormfront, the oldest and largest white supremacist...' << ~they~ dun have pubkey either, last i saw
mircea_popescu: in fact, there's no serious reason to suspect pantsuited clowns of any peculiar relationship to reality.
mircea_popescu: good thing they stopped climate change.
mircea_popescu: i dun see anything wrong with either approach. having them all have current block height as trinque says, correctly reflects present situation. having them have whatever other denotation you choose (some kind of reconstructed "blocks as it were") has the advantage that it reflects historical knowledge. neither of these is important : FUTURE manifest.txt versions can reflect w/e we want them to then.
mod6: Thank you for the review and suggestion.
trinque: mod6: I figure giving them the same block times is the right thing, since it's entirely true (and useful to denote) that they were all added to manifest.txt at that time
mod6: A while back it was argued that a full-regrind of the entire trb vtree was not necessary. Having all the manifest entries in there, even if starting now, should suffice.
mod6: trinque: Thinking about it here quick, I think I ought to have all of them in there for what is included in a "proper trb". Adding them all in now, would give them all similar block times, but that's fine. It is what it is.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 18:11 mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated non-news, the surprised by joy thing has been most read article this month since the day it was published. it's so fucking rare for a same-month article to even rank... i wonder wtf happened there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848896 << btw reading the title i cannot help but think of later esr's 'surprised by wealth' lulgem
asciilifeform: could be 'clever' and make the atmosphere-facing end a parabolic reflector, and collect sun, but then subject to birdshit etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 16:59 asciilifeform: peltier is potentially very good current source for long-term unattended stations -- unlike photopanel, it isn't afraid of rain, or bird shit, etc. and a long stake into the earth potentially gives coupla of degree temp diff yr round
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848784 << looks good to me. didn't want to include prior patches, or just didn't include them in the sample?
lobbes: Well okay then. I'm going to move forward with auctionbot dealing 100% in ecu. Meaning users will need to convert their input to ecu even if dealing outside of #e. (which, I'm fine with. atm Ecu allows me to simply use integer data type and also allows users to deal in fractional satoshis)
mircea_popescu: well whatever the syntax is. runs here too, just doesn't hourly announce.
mircea_popescu: there's a lobbesbot, a foxybot, a mockybot, you have no idea.
asciilifeform: aa hm there's 2 of'em?
asciilifeform: waiwat i thought the whole point was euloratronic bot
mircea_popescu: yes, out of 1k humans 900 are morons. but out of the 100 remaining, 99 females "are morons" because "muh babies".
mircea_popescu: illustrative example : 1. ruler says "whosoever eats this delicious treat will be whipped". 2. john and jane eat it. 3. john is brought for judgement, "wtf ?" "i did not understrand eating the treat i ate is the eating of the treat you were talking about" "a ok, moron" ; 4. jane is brought for judgement, "wtf ?" "i did not understand you saying so and so whipping applies to me." "what ?" "i am pregnant."
mircea_popescu: the male/female divide that produces the batallion-to-one ratio is "grasps, grasps, but does not care", not "fails to grasp".
mircea_popescu: now the ~other way around~, where male becomes a sort of parasite, is widely seen, from fishes to insects (and, as per "they're just little boys" common discovery of middle-aged whores), humans also.
asciilifeform: if martians land tonight and in their pov 'sentient' means 'grasps at least first order logics' they will immediately barf, 'we found a race where 1 full battallion of sentient males for erry female , and whole buncha veggies '
mircea_popescu: yes well in that sense, the soi-dissant "united states government" being as it is an uppity (and, shamefulyl, tax-avoidant) group organized under the republic's millet system and so on.
asciilifeform: there also is a c) 'what exactly means 'higher brain function' . seen through certain lens, most current-day earthling ~already~ walking around without any
mircea_popescu: the "strictly impossible" was re a ; b is likely impossible becasue of space-starvation. the deep reason male mammals have nipples even if no uterus is that the "proper" signification of every-single-fucking-detail exceeds the "storage space" so to speak available to the physical process. so ~everything is overloaded, and generally >10 deep.
mircea_popescu: there's very much not a central switch, whereby the blastule goes "now we completed stem, moving on to ganglia". there's no such phase ; future neocortex structures predate such diversification as separate digits.
mircea_popescu: this is not even how the brain works.
asciilifeform: errybody gets the stem
asciilifeform: sad earthlings already farther along this track than anybody cares to admit ( or mircea_popescu would not be running his sea water reactor )
asciilifeform: or could have scenario in the vein of mircea_popescu's parasitic worms tale
asciilifeform: whoknows, maybe dimorphism could carry farther than it does in earthling.
mircea_popescu: this is strictly impossible, btw, the "evolved nonsentient female".
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 18:03 mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that if either logic or experience have any say, should a multi-century "space colonization" thing occur, women'd be EXACTLY that, taken for the ride chained to a post.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848881 << btw, incidentally 'a broomstick fires once'(tm), and there was at least 1 ameri-sf writer d00d (l. niven) who had a sorta cat-like alien race, who colonized exactly like this, and eventually evolved 'nonsentient' females
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in entirely unrelated non-news, the surprised by joy thing has been most read article this month since the day it was published. it's so fucking rare for a same-month article to even rank... i wonder wtf happened there. << USG.Blue&Red derps suspecting steganography?
mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated non-news, the surprised by joy thing has been most read article this month since the day it was published. it's so fucking rare for a same-month article to even rank... i wonder wtf happened there.
mircea_popescu: want is the expectation projected into the future ; expectation is the want projected into the past. the zek is of the opinion that "really ? we still have to DO this ?!" re "the conversation" about how he's to do work. what fucking work!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly, and the "hr" office as full as ever, for every factory. just, not full with anyone worth hiring applying to do any job. just fulla derps who expect to be paid for existing.
mircea_popescu: so the us can at any time you wish field large helpings of "support personnel", but not the useful kind (that cleans latrines). the ustarded kind, that wants to "let's all make a circle" and "just talk"
asciilifeform: afaik the recruitment queues are as full as ever
mircea_popescu: kinda how us army was disbanded, to be replaced by the us "core of training". "teaching" the orcs is almost not insulting to the idiots' notions of self-importance.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 17:18 mircea_popescu: "I am not to be common, Kyle, ok? I am a creature like no other. I know that. I am a creature like no other. And I will not -- I willnot be common. "
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's shockingly rare to see kiddo come up to instructor with anythiong but "i wanna be * commander". because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848730 amirite, erryone's a lord and there's no serfs anywhere.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-13 17:06 BingoBoingo: Well, dude was unhappy with his life and just wanted to do a barrel roll per the transcripts. If they let the shootdown get out they fear a wave of "muh feelz"
asciilifeform: it aint much of a hypothetical -- 'new world' shipment was precisely as described
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that if either logic or experience have any say, should a multi-century "space colonization" thing occur, women'd be EXACTLY that, taken for the ride chained to a post.
mircea_popescu: that, i can explain. us 80s notion of space travel (inherited from 1960s french, as seen eg in http://trilema.com/2013/hibernatus/ ) involves the notion of sending families in ecosystems.
asciilifeform: ( and did wonder, in civ1, 'why the fuck MUST 'discover' 'womens suffrage' to build starship ... )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is like confessing you like the smell of gasoline. du nhave TO ALSO EAT IT!
mircea_popescu: "cheap computer game aiming to mass market will expose in garish tones the idiocy common to all people"
mircea_popescu: ah. yeah this is a better theory
asciilifeform: nah i suspect 'common ancestor', the 'linear history' where 'newton sat down to..'
mircea_popescu: avortons that didn't even PLAY civ. spawned by idiots who also did not play it -- but were somehow osmotically influenced by the players ?
mircea_popescu: i am starting to suspect civ was a lot more influential than previously realised --a whole generation of morons literally imagine "the nation of africa" was spawned forh by shaka the bahamas.
mircea_popescu: think about it -- if she hadn't given zee germans zee letter z, what'd they have done!
asciilifeform: ( there is legend where in late '80s jp purchased an entire steamer full of sov alarm clocks. immediately melted down for niobium etc )
mircea_popescu: they're all broad concepts, definitely.
mircea_popescu: all through iron age subnormals derped around with leather
mircea_popescu: turkish woodworking tradition is 100% imported from ro/arvnaut/macedonian tradition on the west and the iranian on the east.
mircea_popescu: well, two! there's one that came from the jenissary music, as a brass instrument (goaran) and there's one that came from the thessaly/macedonian pastoral tradition earlier, as a wooden shepher's whistle (caval)
mircea_popescu: ~same thing the vuvuzela came from.
asciilifeform: some reason i thought there were a ro variant
mircea_popescu: pro tip : jews ~= gypsies. after five centuries spent on the same caravan roads...
mircea_popescu: but no, the actual item is "paul lica de la roman", "sunt sofer de camion"
mircea_popescu: just about ; radio station producer chick hit me for their "guilty pleasures" segment.
asciilifeform: sounds like 'mst3k'-treatment of the puiu codreanu popthing that asciilifeform heard playing in timis cafes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's me on the radio, like a decade or so ago.
mircea_popescu: lettuce offer a mn ECus to whoever of the rotaku club that produces the correct notation of that thing. hanbot diana_coman an' spyked are kindly asked to stay out of it!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mircea_popescu_initiator_concurs_proza_arhiscurta_paul_lica_de_la_roman_sunt_sofer_de_camion_4981_a.mp3 << in other lulz.
asciilifeform: ( might be interesting to contemplate a power source that runs on guano funnel, but i suspect there is substantial devil in the details )
asciilifeform: prolly worx just as well with these
asciilifeform: it is also much less conspicuous than photopanel ( which is easily seen from the air )
asciilifeform: peltier is potentially very good current source for long-term unattended stations -- unlike photopanel, it isn't afraid of rain, or bird shit, etc. and a long stake into the earth potentially gives coupla of degree temp diff yr round
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848794 << lolyes, it's pretty warm on the underside, from various expensivespaceheaters
mod6: Hi all, I wanted to get some review, on this manifest file that would be introduced into trb. It would be placed inside the 'bitcoin' directory along the 'Makefile' and 'src' directories. It follows trinque's proposal here: http://trinque.org/2018/06/02/v-manifest-specification
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 15:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hah, pretty interesting : the dram turds differ by... 3 bytes
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848650 << update : flashing in the uboot with the dram turd from vendor fw, did nothing detectable
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848476 -> I might as well mention then that I will redirect noobs to #ossasepia where they can perhaps attempt to learn something or otherwise get banned
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 17:45 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you and i may be the last folx still using sed and awk, they gathered dust since perlism plague began
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-08#1848770 -> not true! here: http://ossasepia.com/2015/10/13/hic-sunt-flotsams-on-eulora-or-the-brand-new-foxymaps/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you and i may be the last folx still using sed and awk, they gathered dust since perlism plague began
asciilifeform: hey sed and awk written by different 'man alones', so big fat surprise they use incompatible inbandisms
mircea_popescu: what sort of morons are these, who a. pick a FIXED magic character which then they make equal to b. THE MOST COMMON FUCKING PUNCTUATION IN THE UNIVERSE
mircea_popescu: in today's wonderment, why the FUCK is it i can say sed 's%x%y%g' or sed 's^p^q^g' but can NOT say awk '%a%,%b%' ?!
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 23:46 asciilifeform: asked in the derp chan, https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-09-07#23015323 , just on the off chance, but i expect 0 answer beyond the usual amstan type , i.e. 'fuck off and eat vendor liquishit'
asciilifeform: upstack, for the curious , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848553 unsurprisingly no answer.
mircea_popescu: i expect they get a "pew pew pew!" audio attachment next.
asciilifeform: recall the 'small bullets' thread. brass recognized that 'they dun aim anyway, let's give'em tiny bullets, why not'
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 18:48 mircea_popescu: do you realise less than one in a million hits anything these days ?! never has the quarry/bullet relationship been this tenuous.
asciilifeform: oh was this the new york subway pistolero ?
mircea_popescu: fellow who was ambushed by a bunch of "hardened criminals", killed seven out of two revolvers and four more with his knife. the rest took to flight.
mircea_popescu: or rather, will dig no holes in any serious matter.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think it is clear that if digger aint willing to contemplate 'maybe i die before hole, but next one will dig, cross the barbed wire over my corpse' will dig no serious holes.
mircea_popescu: god knows it's been the recorded problem of teenaged boys throughout civilisation.
mircea_popescu: "I am not to be common, Kyle, ok? I am a creature like no other. I know that. I am a creature like no other. And I will not -- I willnot be common. "
asciilifeform: the sad bit, tho, is that he gave up pretty early on re: actually making the thing boot on physical iron. erry copy i got hold of, ran in vmware strictly.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is, the os, was actually novel/interesting in aspects -- e.g. implemented the ~only~ known example of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=256
mircea_popescu: hence, "train failed to correctly play the part tard assigned it"
asciilifeform: they poke, poke, until 5000 volts.
mircea_popescu: like all the rest of them. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840735 just as certified schizo.
asciilifeform: in usa these figure prominently in pedestrian splats
mircea_popescu: i would suppose it wasn't so much suicide as the train failing to correctly play the part fucktard assigned it in fucktard's own WoWoW.
asciilifeform: 'A man killed by a train in The Dalles in mid-August had a Youtube following and was a “minor celebrity” in the computer world for doing the Herculean task of writing his own operating system, a fan said...'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but let's continue the "do you knows" then. ever heard of one j. r. davis ?
BingoBoingo: http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2018/sep/07/man-killed-train-had-tech-following/ << RIP Terry Davis confirmed
asciilifeform: with the predictable results, aha
mircea_popescu: economics disposes : the dynasty was hannoverian ; at the time cheap fuckmeat was both prettier (ie, higher quality) and cheaper had in rural hannover than in rural lancastershire. so unsurprisingly, cousin bob fucked little boys at cousin joe's house, rather than the reverse.
asciilifeform: idjit peasant cannot invent devils that 'can only see through microscope', he has never laid hands on microscope. so they will inevitably be devils that you 'can see' by rubbing chicken shit in yer eyes.
asciilifeform: imho the canonical example.
asciilifeform: see also the 'elders of zion' mega-bestseller.
mircea_popescu: you know for a fact pantsuited hilarity traded in children. the part where it was run from a pizzeria in wash dc... well...
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that billing's 'britain run by fags' thing were untrue. but the part where it is 'from german wreckers' is pretty rich
mircea_popescu: yet somehow, never self-evident to the pizza folks.
mircea_popescu: it'd seem self-evident that if a buncha doods carrying an L etched on their forehead go banging their heads on a chunk of concrete insistently enough in large enough groups, the L will eventually to some degree and under some lights transfer.
mircea_popescu: it's fundamentally what it is, "confederacy" of "independent" men alone going at teh establishment. the dent they make always takes the same shape
asciilifeform: loox like a moar erudite ver of the pizza folx, yes
mircea_popescu: so : something i nthe vein of reddit investigative journalists uncovering the pizza hut hilary clinton pedophilia scandal, if you recall that.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-08-05 07:31:20: <Tyrantelf20> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
mircea_popescu: somewhat like "reddit" umm how did the expression go...
mircea_popescu: billing was this fellow who famously sued a bunch of establishment faggots over his theory that faggot conspiracy is the cause of ww1 failure.
mircea_popescu: well ? "don't attack enemy lest he attacks back" localized peace somehow sums up to a war over the interval ?
mircea_popescu: and i'll expand, but read the references first.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's terrible advice. "recovering data from damaged hard disks" is a "business" in the sense "painting and decorating boobies" is a business. nobody gets boobies anymore on account of bacterial diseases being exticnt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ww1 was not what you imagine. the controlloing aspects are http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/#selection-3045.2154-3045.2200 in the theoretical and http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/#footnote_155_80959 in the practical.
asciilifeform: paulgraham -- before turning into the infamous huckster -- had a piece where 'which biznis should you get into if you LUVV gardening?' '...recovering data from damaged hard disks!'
asciilifeform: ( then again , spain did not cure orwell )
asciilifeform: i suspect you can get moar 'big break' selling wine to winos, than the written word, in whatever form
mircea_popescu: kids that grow up like c.s.lewis, ie forsaken, end up with a sorely overgrown notion of the importance of the self.
mircea_popescu: at a time if you put the whole population in a shaking machine you wouldn't have likely shaken a million loose.
diana_coman: this reminds of that time when they had a "drama taster" at nursery and I asked him whether he liked it: "I liked it; a bit; not as much as playing with the hammer!"
mircea_popescu: well then!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hah, pretty interesting : the dram turds differ by... 3 bytes
mircea_popescu: in the sense junkie similar to junkie.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 14:34 mircea_popescu: the cab driver with a leningrad doctorate, gone to new york to "this is america!" is almost endearing ; the iowa farm girl gone to new york to "i r become a writer" is just...