mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we got anything for the s.nsa report ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 23:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ?
mircea_popescu: or no, sorry ... it's just broken. the http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss puts out valiud rss, but it seems it's the article feed.
mircea_popescu: in random eggogs : the default theme for mp-wp (w/e it is bimbo.club got), the bottom link for comments rss links to http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss2 which is broken ; http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss is the correct endpoint.
mircea_popescu: a there it is.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 00:29 mircea_popescu: https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/news-headlines << check it out, nasdaq has a whole "menu" of optiopns, except no fucking way to establish market capitalization ; the only page that'd maybe do it, the (legally mandated, btw) anuyal report, http://www.companyspotlight.com/partner?cp_code=NAS1&ticker=TSLA ... times out.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-04#1857945 << https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/stock-report 170,593,000 so they say
asciilifeform: how much of the 50b is 'spendable' really
asciilifeform: but afaik they aint denominated in same unit ?
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, the useless castrated boys get 50bn, and the useless fat girls get 50mn. this is the current disparity, if i had to guess.
asciilifeform: aa them -- yes
mircea_popescu: costs whom ? the little yellow men? of course. but the lolzdaq tards still paying for it.
asciilifeform: they're man-sized, but made of lappy cells
mircea_popescu: so i'm saying... it's not 0, whatever the actual ratio. and if i concede a 0.1, you're still not gonna produce the 5bn hypatia.
mircea_popescu: well... the laughsdaq endowment still got the chinese to ship some man-sized li batteries over to frisco, yes ?
asciilifeform does not know the conversion ratio, if it even makes sense to ask for one, how do ya convert metres to litres...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'hypatias' deal in turkeybux ( or , whatever the little termites, 'students', eat in place of turkey ), so perhaps not comparable with the imagibux traded on laughsdaq
mircea_popescu: now show me the "hypatia" with 50bn endowment.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; terminal (which hasn't been "updated" to "newest in ux and gui" crap, thankfully) lets us know they have 170,593,000 shares outstanding, not counting warrants and options.
mircea_popescu: "there's a whole list of what people said about the thing you're wanting to see ?" jesus.
mircea_popescu: "oh, no, mp, nevermind that, would you like any of these 5 instantaneous made up quote streams ?!?!" "no." "how about the randomized news feed" "fuck off".
mircea_popescu: just the insane way that all is organized, 100% DESIGNED to turn the eye towards the scam and away from the actuarial backing. where the fruck is the fucking list of how much stock they sold ?
mircea_popescu: in the end, maddoff fucking won.
mircea_popescu: https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/news-headlines << check it out, nasdaq has a whole "menu" of optiopns, except no fucking way to establish market capitalization ; the only page that'd maybe do it, the (legally mandated, btw) anuyal report, http://www.companyspotlight.com/partner?cp_code=NAS1&ticker=TSLA ... times out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc tesla sux not because lacks 300hp ( iirc they had one with massive motor ) but because costs like 15 of mp's bmw
mircea_popescu: and yet tesla got to pretend it's worth 300 a share ; and 2bn a year spending money out of the "shareholder"'s piggy. where's the mamie with 2bn to spend, i wish to see this.
mircea_popescu: let's take the 2012 tesla s lulz : 581 kW theoretical powerplant ; 100 kWh theoretical battery pack. it's like a bmw with a two ounce tank!!!
mircea_popescu: because the "oh, we don't DO hp anymore" is definitely coming out.
mircea_popescu: ask one of the fucktards this, sometime. "hey, mp's bmw has 270 hp under the hood. what's your tesla got ?"
mircea_popescu: you see ? it is actually very sensible, in the "common sense" sense of sensibility.
asciilifeform: esp since the 'mamies' are 'red-blooded amurrricans' and the 'sciences' people, largely yellow devils
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but of course. and ( at least at my local shithole ) that forest fire has only just begun -- the 'sciences' still get sumthing like 20x moar payola than the mamies
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists. << I didn't realise until today that I am one of the leading indepenent scholars in greviances studies
mircea_popescu: the logic is sound, if you think it through : "we fat sexually worthless females, in a word we the mamies, have the following grievance : back when the clever boys discovered new lands and made train engines, you priviledged them for this reason. now -- they do not. why can't we also have the payola they get ?" "uhm..." "and if you don't like this simple formulation, we can add 10mn words of rephrasings ?" "fuck"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists.
asciilifeform: i.e. unreplicable crapola where one'd have to catch the authors and connect'em to 220v to get the orig data, supposing it existed
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'transgender transracial studies' etc people are the easy marks for laughter, but i see ~0 diff b/w them and what's been coming out of the 'sciences' rags for past 20y
BingoBoingo: Mind that as recently as 2010 one of the centers there had just been inaugurated and the older one was opening satellite facilities at Chinese universities
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They closed shops plural. Apparently the repurposed residential buildings are there, but locked without grad students funded to guard the door.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes ; the whole "field" has been taking water for decade+.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup. i would expect 2/3 to 4/5ths of all females in the age range to "more education" / "back to school" because very much http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-111.0-111.31 and literally nobody can be arsed to even asked them to suck cock. forget paying for it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: waiwat?! they actually closed shop ?!
mircea_popescu: exactly how the other socialism played out -- by the time 1980 rolled around, there were so many "responsibles" to the worker, there was barely enough bread to go around.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is entirely consistent with my observed picture ( the same lost souls auto-enter 'grad school' because otherwise... 'starbucks' + loans called in )
mircea_popescu: well of course, this is the problem with government-"solved" problems : the solving produces the problem, and the only available response is to dilute the "solution". homeopathy for the masses!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not as much getting as they used to get. Today the SIU department of Philosophy has 7 faculty members. Since I was there were five promotions to emeritus (some rather young) and at least three other departures. In the intervening decade they have ONE new face on their faculty web page.
mircea_popescu: the notion that the 1920s produced a whole lotta churchgoers is exactly of the same cloth as the notion that the 2000s produced a whole lotta academics, "discourse", "awareness" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: what they "say"... well they ain't sayin' anything. in the great depression lotta folk "listened" in church because only way they'd get the bowl of soup.
mircea_popescu: so the notion that somehow it could be undone by meaning... item exists economically. all the women "liberated" from depending on a male are still just as dependent. much like all the slaves "liberated" from slave owner are just as much slaves.
trinque: isn't as though they get real food out of it either, just velveeta and fungal breadlike. what's to care about?
asciilifeform: phood, communal flats ( they can't build'em fast enuff.. ), 'degrees', jerbs, et
mircea_popescu: point of fact remains -- most zeks not useful in any sense. all zeks would still like to eat. this is the conduit through which they get their foodstamps.
asciilifeform: and they're gettin'
mircea_popescu: the whole thing is basically social payments extension. there's a lot of idle schmuycks who expect to get government freebies under the title of "doing" this crap.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That thought influenced the title word choice. Can't kill a corpse, but you can still hit it for damage.
asciilifeform: these folx live in hermetically sealed parallel universe, that i suspect can only be pierced with bullet and oven
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that it won't 'kill credibility' , it is impossible to kill what's been dead since orig sokal (at the very least!) -- but still lulzy
mod6: BingoBoingo: If you really want to take this on, I won't object. I had thought that we would kinda go over it together... but if you wanna work through it and see how it goes, that's fine. ben_vulpes told me that he would review the report before we publish it again this month.
BingoBoingo: Which is why unlike so many other finds it got the early qntra mega block quote treatment while so many other things get the archive.is take it or leave it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which is why it is entered into the record. All of the secondary reporting made finding their report ON THEIR OWN PROJECT a serious bitch.
mircea_popescu: pantsuit is not substantially different from any other inconsequential group of niggers the white man subdued to date.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they have a point, only sane way to look at the orcs is as what they are -- a primitive culture.
mod6: All I'm saying folks is that I'm doing the best that I can with what I've got to work with.
mod6: BingoBoingo just got me his numbers, so I can start calculations on that stuff now. And I think I'm about to lock in a price point for October. Which we need not only to keep the lights on, but also so we can start invoicing folks so I don't take another beating like I did in July.
mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly better than current "state of the art"!
mod6: Once I have those things done, I can move on to these other things. Unless mircea_popescu and asciilifeform find it prudent that I drop what I'm doing there and write whatever this thing is.
mod6: I gotta get the report done for pizarro. I've also gotta lock in a price and get the bills paid.
mod6: I could probably start there. I am getting winded here guys.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857737 << nicoleci - So what was going on there was this: I had compiled a new trb with a new patch that I was testing, and I was remarking about that it's build was finished.
asciilifeform: mod6: example: 'dear herr editor at volkischer beobachter: you have been misinformed by your sources re the subject of bitcoin. the client maintained by gavin et al, known as 'core', currently offered at version x.x, and infamous for lethally compromising bugs, most recently [qntra link] , is not the definitive client but a work of malicious impostors ; the actual bitcoin client can be found at [tbf] , consists of x LOC (and decreasi
mod6: And for the time being, I've got Pizarro things that need doing.
mod6: I'm not at all sure, in every sense of the word, of what to write about the subject. All I know was "bug found in core version 0.16.X"
mircea_popescu: and even that aside -- gotta write them, or otherwise vehehery tenuously can say "r foundation". because this is the sorta thing a foundation does, and this one's chartered to do -- outreach.
asciilifeform: mod6: mircea_popescu is right, gotta write'em, or else cannot say 'they dun know'
mircea_popescu: girls don't think what you think they think, not least of all because ~the only fucking reason~ you lie to yourself about thinking that's what girls think is so as to save your lazy ass the effort of ever talking to one.
asciilifeform: i dun have an oracle re 'everyone', only the mouthpiece fishwraps, and even these i'll admit i read irregularly
mircea_popescu: "everyone thinks gavin is the expert", says alf, in 2018. but when in 2015 mp said "fuck gavin", gavin got fucked. everyone thinks ?
mircea_popescu: why not use the methods that ARE PROVEN TO WORK jaysus!
mircea_popescu: check it out, and it prevented the fork, and you... frogot about it ? never used it again ?
mod6: i'll find it, just a minute. then I gotta reivew the rest of the log, and move on to pizarro things.
mod6: I gotta dig it up. It was from the "if you go on a fork..." thing iirc.[
asciilifeform: that way the fishwrap morons can never 'you never asked!11'
mircea_popescu: moreover, if these letters were already on www, the "wtf is this foundation doing" q would not have been needed last week.
mircea_popescu: absolutely. then we can actuallky DISCUSS them, rather than typically non-tmsr-esque "oh, i did something sometime i don't remember what i don't remember when and i didn't follow what happened".
mod6: well, lol, I guess the ML is in a bit of a state lately.
asciilifeform: mod6: let's put the letters ( + any replies ) on yer www, when they go, so we dun gotta have this thread 2nd time
mircea_popescu: because you're all lazy and psychotic, and would rather talk my ear off than go ask a girl out.
asciilifeform: really ? cuz erry time i see the heathen liquishit, it's still ~same pieces of shit being quoted
asciilifeform: and if not gavin, then hearn
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform entirely their choice to make, copyrwriting or journalism. i dun care. but the choice must be made, by them, and as such.
mircea_popescu: on the topic of bitcoin, 100% of relevant professionals is tmsr. like it or not.
asciilifeform: the doohickeys, that is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're paid for it, neh
mircea_popescu: there's also publications what'd try and get hold of an acvtual engineer, or doctor, or w/e relevant professional.
mircea_popescu: changes ~nothing, there's publications out there that print bs about how magical doohickeys reduce gasoline usage by cars and shaman x cured cancer and gingivitis.
mod6: Sure. I just wanted to ensure that I knew what the facts were, should I say anything, and were to start getting questions about it.
asciilifeform: mod6: interestingly, i'm also drowning in record-breaking liquishit in the saeculum
mircea_popescu: if they don't want an actual pov, and would rather publish content free fluff indefinitely, that is their problem
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, all ideology and blather aside, there simply does not exist anyone with any expertise BESIDES us.
mircea_popescu: mod6 ideally the situation is that they send something to ask, "hey, what about this"
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 15:39 mircea_popescu: if not, why not "hello x, I am y, i represent tbf, our position is, i can be reached through k j p q in the future" ?
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857626 << I think this is along the lines of what I had in mind, yeah.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 15:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856533 << here's an example : did the ~source~ of http://qntra.net/2018/09/power-rangers-inserted-inflation-bug-into-core-bitcoin-network-client-in-2016/ discuss the tbf position ? if not, why not ?
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857624 << I did hear about this bug, of course. I had considered perhaps sending out something about this, but before I even dared to speak, I wanted to investigate the problem in prb-shithub, as well as the CVE. I haven't even had a spare moment yet.
BingoBoingo: And before anyone brings up the latest Sokal 2.0, yes. A qntra is baking.
asciilifeform: Officially(tm) opium den, and the attendant preparation tech (the raw vegetable had to be processed in a particular way) are extinct. but betcha mircea_popescu , who traveled in the near east, knows the troof...
asciilifeform: re opiumists, as i understand the procedure was fiddly enuff that it in fact required a second set of hands -- for rich d00d, servant; for poor -- den flunkie
BingoBoingo: And the californians recently figured it out
BingoBoingo: And yet the Uruguayos are still behind
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ancient persia got there 1st
BingoBoingo: Well, apparently the hot thing in California the Uruguayos haven't figured out yet is called "dabbing". Apparently it's a way to crack pipe hashish
asciilifeform: i recall reading once about an american 'sinologist' type who started by collecting the pipes ( they were often quite ornate, ivory, rhino, exotic woods ) and ended up... reconstructing actual opium den, somewhere
asciilifeform: so not the same, in important aspect, as today's 'injection sites'
asciilifeform: ( pharmacologically also interesting : old-school opium 'smokers' ( wasn't actually smoked, it was sublimated in a device resembling today's 'crack pipe', and pretty 'high tech' procedure, look at photo of the kit some time ) -- the moar active components of the vegetable -- morphine & relateds -- didn't make it out of the pipe bowl, broke down, so theoretically the chinese were actually doing a somewhat different dope than today's j
BingoBoingo: I think they did that in San Fran and somewhere near where ben_vulpes is leaving "safe injection site" I believe is the pantsuited newspeak
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm almost surprised, at this point, that they haven't yet reintroduced opium den
BingoBoingo: The pro-marihuana thing likely for similar reasons. Keeps them comfortable while bored and saps their energy so they don't burn Mujica for making them all poorer.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: conceivably whole lizard.purpose of organized sport-gladiatorism is to get the derps to throw lit petrol in stadium, at one another, instead of at pantsuit.
BingoBoingo: Now, If Trump makes Maduro sink a USG aircraft carrier the derp squad might try a run at US embassy, but I doubt they would have the commitment they do when serving as hinchas de Peñarol
asciilifeform: i could ask 'why into stadium, and not us embassy' but prolly there is no answer to be had.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and they do what, light'em and throw'em ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The cylinders look like lp tanks from back home. I suspect it is lp, but the locals only ever call it supergas.
BingoBoingo: Yes, they try to sneak "supergas" cylinders into the stadium, but on the other hand the locals care intensely about little else. Unless they are fans of Club Nacional de Futbol in which case they are a bunch of little pussies.
BingoBoingo: Catching up on dispatches from the USG fortress in Barrio Sur (El Barrio de los Negros), it turns out they Embassy warned their subjects against participating in pretty cool cultural event: https://uy.usembassy.gov/message-to-u-s-citizens-security-alert-avoid-traveling-on-the-rambla-in-pocitos-punta-carretas-and-on-avenida-18-de-julio-tonight/
asciilifeform: i'm quite reluctant to sink substantial moneys into heathen isps, for obv. reason. in that thread was thinking of 'cash and carry' modest item, strictly for moar-trb.
asciilifeform: my reading of ru law suggested this hypothesis re ru
asciilifeform: 1 commonplace gotcha in orcistans is where they demand a 'physical presence' locally so they have a neck to squeeze if $box 'found to be' serving up naked pics of nazarbaev or whoever equiv.
diana_coman: having one in the uk is...easy I'd say, but I'm not all that sure it's worth much, lol
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i was not able to discover a 'hard nope', but all of the attempts that answered, ended in this eggog
diana_coman: o.O what, you mean you can't just rent a machine there?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pre-pizarro i actually tried a dozen ru isp. they all wanted ru corp.
asciilifeform: ( we already have buncha noades in nato reich , if shelling out for heathen boxen, would prefer outside )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: would rather start from the bottom of the pantsuitism list rather than top..
diana_coman: for all I know he might have it there too? I did not coordinate/ask
asciilifeform: ( unless you both have'em there )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 23:39 asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have one back in 'old blightey' ? or know of a place there where i oughta put one
BingoBoingo: There have even been times where I rigged www to kill itself
asciilifeform: 'Asciilifeform ran the experimental patch bringup in trb node zoolag' << bahahahawaaat
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sadly i dun have just nao the time to re-create packet from list of decimals.. so will have to wait for dump
diana_coman: such are the perils of literal reading of logs, since yes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855541
diana_coman: anyways, I'll let you know if tcpdump sniffs any/ can tell which one it is, but this paste there is the bird in hand atm
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, it IS all of it in there although you'd need to reconstitute it basically: look there, *all* the payload was different, so all of it IS reported; first bytes are reported anyway (sizesent and timesent)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i meant, would like to see hexdump of the packet itself
diana_coman: asciilifeform, see the paste; that one is part of the live capture basically - the error log simply logs all bytes that have a different value than expected
asciilifeform: so there could be all sortsa strange in various ip stacks, and i would not know of it
asciilifeform: the only commonplace heathen uses i'm aware of , use tiny packets (e.g. dns, iirc, 512)
diana_coman: but then who/wtf sends udp on port 7000 ? and meanwhile I left tcpdump sniffing and ...nothing so far
diana_coman: onth it's hard to *really* tell if it is indeed chopped off part or just other garbage, hmm
diana_coman: it certainly does look like some chopped off part of one of the messages sent around
diana_coman: asciilifeform, if it help, here's an example of those packets from the switch - it's from the error log - I can pass you the whole file if it's of any use : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ToYHc/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:27 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wai does the switch have a public www face ? afaik this is optional toggle, and really oughta be off
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 03:18 trinque: "we slay incas" while cute, communicates nothing except "you're not in the in-group"
mircea_popescu: the wonders this log witnesses for all times to come!
mircea_popescu: lmao. oh, the thing that couldn't be done commercially, is now done commercially.
asciilifeform: $subj is not , of course, custom silicon, but is a heathenware switch where asciilifeform ripped out the internal ssd and emplaced hand-sewn kernel + 'pf'
asciilifeform: it was in fact supposed to go in the 1st , but ended up sadly left behind , rk plant ranked higher , and mass -- limited
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wai does the switch have a public www face ? afaik this is optional toggle, and really oughta be off
mircea_popescu: not that one. all of them.
mircea_popescu: ALL. the point is all.
asciilifeform: the bigger riddle is wherethefuck the thinking folx are. there oughta be some uranium in 1000 litres of sea, where is it.
mircea_popescu: (have you noticed, btw, back in the days of free !!ups to allcomers, what large proportion of those? "who are you, x ?" "i am x" "but that's nobody" "nevertheless!")
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for long time i repeatedly 'hi omfg-rsa-xyz-of-the-day people, here's phuctor, i speak for...' etc. 0 result. but possibly was doingitwrong
mircea_popescu: this idea whereby we can both a) long endure and b) persistently remain null at outreach on all levels is the stuff of alf's boats.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and hey BingoBoingo , what's 161.0.121.254 ? << It should be the switch
mircea_popescu: the point of instruct and inform is that it sticks, and it becomes systematic and universal. we're not africans, whereby "oh, the shamans does the electricity thing, we're all safe now from having to do".
mircea_popescu: i don't mean, ~once~. i do such things, the once, to instruct and inform. like say that harvard piece.
mircea_popescu: if not, why not "hello x, I am y, i represent tbf, our position is, i can be reached through k j p q in the future" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:51 mod6: I feel like I can be pretty successful in doing that, it's the other things that I feel like I'm lacking -- a senseable direction to a 'Standford'.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856533 << here's an example : did the ~source~ of http://qntra.net/2018/09/power-rangers-inserted-inflation-bug-into-core-bitcoin-network-client-in-2016/ discuss the tbf position ? if not, why not ?
asciilifeform: i'd be curious to see the payload
asciilifeform: well this dun solve the puzzle
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i expect it's pissing broadcast crapola ( dhcp ? BingoBoingo ? ) to the lan
diana_coman: uhm, but somehow packages were received with the switch as source ?? and actually it IS extra packages as it were, since adding them does result in more than were sent...
asciilifeform: i'm thinking it's the switch
diana_coman: but yes, I think it's just someone around here playing with the tester?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I can tell at least some of them, yes, because they got reported as "errors" because not what expected
diana_coman: anyways, at a quick look, no errors on either direction between the 2 concerned nodes, ~99.80% made it to the other side ; will get to do a proper write-up with more details by the end of this week
diana_coman: looking at the udp tester data, it seems my uy end got also some packets from 161.0.121.254, lol
asciilifeform: ^ the most complete thread re subj
a111: Logged on 2015-11-05 04:49 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu finally dug up the sysv6-on-x86 thing. http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1114
asciilifeform: for some reason unable to unearth the 'revived system-v' thread, if anyone knows where it is, plox to link
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 18:53 asciilifeform: kinda how i boot up that cute x86 systemv and then notice that it is PALPABLY slow on modern pentium because it lacks ANY disk cache etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 15:09 asciilifeform: it always struck me as a kind of 'bsd 4' - yes, 'hackable', yes, 'small', but the ~wrong kind of small~, the kind that will balloon into the same megalith as sbcl if you were to add all of the missing but necessary pieces.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857577 << amiga's os was a pretty simple thing, rather closer to msdos 'init the iron & get the fuck out of the way' than to current-day items
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857575 << imho it would be difficult to find a worse example of 'if only could have lived, if not linux!' than beos ( at one point i was quite into archaeology of 'anyffing nonmicroshit', eagerly dug up vintage/'resurrected' pc os, but once actually got close to the things typically found that 'ugh, ~same shit, different bottle' )
diana_coman: come to think about it, I can see the case for calling them "messages" since it's not the network level there, indeed
diana_coman: ahhh, nm, I got confused with the later tell msg
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 04:55 mircea_popescu: not sure why you keep calling them "packages" tho
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857574 -> uhm, mainly because I think of network package basically; technically speaking I suppose I should call them..datagrams, uhm
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 04:15 mircea_popescu: if linus wasn't around to subvert early republican effort, it's not the case "republic wouldn't have ever existed" ; but it is the case republic would have been greater and better without his despicable ass.
mircea_popescu: not sure why you keep calling them "packages" tho
mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/27/tester-for-udp-communications/#selection-93.276-93.306 << word. "default value" is one thing ; but this is quite another thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 23:36 asciilifeform: so presently i end up shelving the idea erry time it makes circle round my conveyor
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 21:50 BingoBoingo: Terry didn't let his daughter's feelz get in the way of his cause
mircea_popescu: as almost anyone in the republic can well attest, 2 weeks is pretty much the most constrained time can ever get.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 20:31 ben_vulpes: sad fate to be remembered for failing to take out agents of the imperium given ~unlimited time and inclination to prepare.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo here's a +1 : i return from the beach also! took there, inter alia, girly whom i bought a perfectly see through, 50% of surface holes, inch-over-cunt-if-upright "dress" which i authoritatively declared to be "her bathing suit", last week. and told her she'll have to wear it at the beach. and she fretted over this wearing of this peculiar bathing suit. so today the day came, and she stepped on the beach, and the ne
BingoBoingo returns from doing the necessary work of walking the beach at night and tormenting the Peruana by reporting how incredibly safe and secure it was
BingoBoingo: Condensing these logs into marketing is a thing being pondered
trinque: i.e. there's this fine gentleman BingoBoingo actually in the bowls of the machine, steadfastly giving a shit.
trinque: I'd lean hard on the "we're humans" thing, communicate that
asciilifeform: ( pretty hard, imho, to even begin in language heathens might understand.. )
asciilifeform: trinque: the text to answer 'wai republican isp' exists, unfortunately it's a coupla hundr MB, aka.. the l0gz
asciilifeform: trinque: yea the inca thing is placeholder
trinque: oughta say something about why the fuck someone wants a republican ISP
trinque: "we slay incas" while cute, communicates nothing except "you're not in the in-group"
lobbes: (obligatory pizarro pitch to log readers: where else can you have 100% context on -why- service is being done on your box, as well as watch it unfold real-time? Compare and contrast with, say, this example from heathenlandia (Edis) >> http://archive.is/NVpIR)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 00:38 asciilifeform: diana_coman , lobbes : your old drives are currently in dulap, lemme know when you're ready to have'em reformatted ( so your boxen dun try an' boot from'em instead of the primary ) and reissued to you as secondary disks.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857528 << forgot to respond to this, but you have my a-ok to reformat old drive. and thank you gentlemen for the smooth swap
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 09:46 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857110 -> if it's anything like mine, it'll be mostly loud complaints from php because "time zone not set!!!" and similar (apparently php version on the RC is too new for its own good)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i think this is all for today in the bilge
asciilifeform: diana_coman , lobbes : your old drives are currently in dulap, lemme know when you're ready to have'em reformatted ( so your boxen dun try an' boot from'em instead of the primary ) and reissued to you as secondary disks.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when you get to the dc, feel free to pull lobbes's drive from dulap ( label it ) and insert 1) first, diana_coman's 2) 30sec later, the new
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Have an eta on when to do the diana_coman switch?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have one back in 'old blightey' ? or know of a place there where i oughta put one
asciilifeform: sooo if anybody ( mircea_popescu ? diana_coman ? ) knows of some place that 1) isn't complete shit 2) doesn't have a trb noad living there yet -- plox to write in.
asciilifeform: so presently i end up shelving the idea erry time it makes circle round my conveyor
asciilifeform: i've been thinking i oughta conjure up moar trb nodez, but erry time i sit down and look to do it, end up thinking 'why give money to heathen derps'. but on other hand it dun do much good to put 9000 nodes all in pizarro. but to which heathen can give moneys without retching..
BingoBoingo: It's also possible there's another trb node I haven't put my own eyes on running on a residential connection in this country
asciilifeform: ( i have dynamic here also, for some reason local fuckheads want 2x the dough to make static. but it changes 1-2x / year, thus far i live with it )
BingoBoingo: It doesn't appear to be at the moment, but it could have been
BingoBoingo: Terry didn't let his daughter's feelz get in the way of his cause
BingoBoingo: Well, Uncle Terry is the Saint everyone thought Linus was
trinque: huh, I ran one of the early x86 Be versions for a bit, didn't hate.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i strongly suspect that a box that smoothly runs the haiku thing will also run freebsd..
BingoBoingo: Well, it isn't novelty for the sake of novelty. Novelty for the sake of highlighting how broken Ubuntu is.
asciilifeform: ( and on top of this imported the worst gnarl from freebsd... )
asciilifeform: possibly i find novelty 'for sake of novelty' to not be auto-attractive; but imho these folx took the same baccilae that made microshit what it is ( cpp kernel, kernelized gui, 'desktopization' ) and somehow supposed that it'd add up to different result than microshit's..
asciilifeform: spreading worx pretty easily when you lift all of the iron-specific C hairballs from existing open sores
BingoBoingo: The big difference between Haiku and ReactOS is in Haiku spreading works (TM)(R). Reactos hasn't made it that far yet.
asciilifeform: reminds me of 'reactos' ( another oddball 'man alone' item; believe or not : attempt to open sores re-create... winblowz )
asciilifeform: i'd stick a kernel that dun crash on these..