mircea_popescu: see, here's how it is : two white man tribes, consisting of "the germans that stayed home" and "the germans that went over ocean" finally got together and built nuke, at the time highest mankind achievement.
asciilifeform: devil is always in the implementation details.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure there's 500000 teenaged boys all over nation of africa having "alt mp". heck, nicoleci found one.
asciilifeform: *then
asciilifeform: the no
mircea_popescu: i am not talking "Bee nuke". i am talking nuke, the actual physical item as reality permits.
asciilifeform: ants prolly not, but for all i know, ~bees~ do. ( 'mysterious' fungus wiping out colonies could very well be 'bee nuke', spread 'deliberately', supposing they could... )
mircea_popescu: but these'd not be sirens. see, this is the problem, we're not talking "lone mystical creature". if ants had nuclear weapons, ants or no ants we'd have found out by now.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 20:21 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855078 << trickier item. recall 'the song of the sirens, some have escaped, but their silence -- no one' . how to deal with 'but ~was~ it in the l0gz'.
mircea_popescu: seems to be an alternative theory pretty badly handicapped by available data/experience.
asciilifeform: yet they're reading.
mircea_popescu: none of these 50x population feel pete_d-like enough to come here and daze us with their stolen fare ?
mircea_popescu: yet there WAS a guy translating trilema for his chinese friends
asciilifeform: hieroglyphosphere is pretty opaque to the unarmed euro eye.
mircea_popescu: and what's the eggcartons made out of, that they stapled to their walls, so we don't hear the trills ?
asciilifeform: ( but also possible that asian trilema is in fact 50x bigger and reading and laughing at the lot of us as we speak )
mircea_popescu could certainly be wrong ; but it certainly couldn't be the case that i'd be wrong in such a way "as nobody could ever know".
mircea_popescu: seems to me they're mining our coin. just like before.
asciilifeform: 'where are the rembrandts' eh
mircea_popescu: if you'd be right, we'd have discovered a #trilema not twice the size (as yellow man pop vs white man pop) but >20 times the size (because hey, efficiency, yes ?). and by size i do not mean headcount.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in exactly the sense snow you piss on "is pretty good at copying the color while discarding the wetness".
mircea_popescu: it becomes a success when "the iron! my god, the iron!" say the locals upon beholding the franks.
asciilifeform: from my perch seems like the rice people are pretty good at copying the irons while discarding the derrida.
mircea_popescu: at no other point did it exist to any degree.
mircea_popescu: in the failures.
mircea_popescu: the merits don't matter, the problem is that literally, there.is.nothing.else.possible.
asciilifeform: where wouldja put the confucian rice kingdoms in this scheme ?
mircea_popescu: and in this sense, the opponents of multiculturalism are deeply fucktarded (as the proponents see them) in attempting to argue the merits.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile multiculturalism failed not on the merits of the idea, but because there is no iron whatsoever to be had. it's either white man culture or stupidity highway.
mircea_popescu: ie, industrialization worked because it's a good idea ~and also~ because there was coal AND iron available superficially. and where the latter not satisfied, such as aztec empire, not worked.
mircea_popescu: specifically, the ~notion~, bereft of any meat, as a skeletal abstraction only, that "mixing improves overal outcomes" ran into the reality that the only available alternative to white man's culture is nation-of-africa powered militant idiocy.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 14:27 mircea_popescu: there is no, strictly speaking, reason that iron MUST be provided on the surface of a planet just like the earth. it ~could~, very well, have simply gone through a place poor in planetoids and ended up entirely iron free on the surface. but it did not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from personal observation -- seems that they're the pantsuit vanguard
mircea_popescu: mulatto chicks as a fenotype provide the members of the remarkable stupid chick group almost exclusively.
mircea_popescu: if it's not evident by now, there's pretty strong statistical correlation between loud, outspoken, militant idiocy and skin tone.
mircea_popescu: ah, but there's such a thing as a noble mold.
asciilifeform spent yrs in mold-infested flats in usa, these smelled nuffing at all like civilization at any point
BingoBoingo: There's a couple places near the Brasilero border that do see the occasional pulgada of the white stuff
BingoBoingo: I mean as in angle, no way the local homes could take much snow
BingoBoingo: Well, the big stylstic difference between new and old country is the lack of pitch on these roofs
asciilifeform: i dun think there's anywhere in e.g. usa where you could smell it, even if it were there you couldn't pick it up past the exhaust gas and garbage
asciilifeform: when i was in timis i walked around and, among other things... smelled the houses. it passed litmus. ( even tho last time i smelled the magic smell was 25y ago ! )
asciilifeform: they have a smell ( typically gotta walk in the front gate, but sometimes can even test right outside )
BingoBoingo: The churches are how you evaluate whether a barrio was once a town or if it is a new espansion favela
asciilifeform: it beats the shit out of cr, seems like, tho, ~errything mircea_popescu posted outside of own house looked iirc like ~africa
BingoBoingo: Then in the center of most barrios there's a historical core surviving from when the barrios were wee little towns
BingoBoingo: During your trip we didn't have much occasion to venture into the AfroUruguayo barro or the old city
BingoBoingo: There's entire streets in barrio sur and Palermo built like that
BingoBoingo: Kinda like Fallout happened IRL and here's this city on the edge of the world the missed out
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the architecture here has its own charm.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Barrio Carrasco where the expo was is considerably in the White Suburban style. Drive-thrus and parking lots everywhere
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu had a photo of argentine orc clothesline slowly pulling the nose off a gargoyle or sumthing to that effect )
asciilifeform actually agrees there, buenosaires arch is palpably moar 'white man' than in BingoBoingostan imho. 'while supplies last'.
BingoBoingo: And today I learned there is a "Highland" in Indiana too
BingoBoingo: And so the Peruana has returned from from Argentina with stories of "Todo es mas linda ahí, hay subte..."
mircea_popescu: (yes, i'm kinda fishing for someone to go "it's 13 x 17 and you know, you're cheating by picking these, illustrating human stupidity not objective hardness".)
diana_coman: it certainly is the first "jump"
diana_coman: I kind of suspect it's either pressure on the spot or people not really used to mental maths
diana_coman: come to think of it re 221 I don't get it; even without a calc, still: 2 no because odd, 3 no because 2+2+1=5, 5 no because 1 at end, 7 no because 21, then 11, 11 no because 22, 1, 13 takes a bit perhaps but...
diana_coman: well, they obv had their laptops and whatnot, so yeah, I counted on "with calcs" hence larger
diana_coman: but uhm, 13 is the 6th number max one would try; with a calc at hand, it can't take more than 2 minutes
mircea_popescu: fwiw, /me has settled on 221 as the perfect number to build "what is asym crypto" around. experimentally, NOBODY knows it's 13 * 17 nor manages to find out.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I was expecting them to be even harder to get to so overall I'm quite pleased with it; now if at least one of them actually *does* something too as a result, that'd be already bonus
mircea_popescu: diana_coman honestly, the summary very acceptable, detailed and so on. just, you're missing out on a possible fanbase!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that might be it re mic - while I can certainly screech if try, I usually don't; never had problems with audience not hearing me but the recording ugh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had a fella like that. used no mic. and would detonate a balloon with h2+o2 at the start of each session, to get folx awake
diana_coman: basically I could have a chat with them all and I know their faces already without any trouble
diana_coman: they were "supposed to be 40" I've been told afterwards
asciilifeform: in 500 seat hall, no way in hell is prof gonna be heard without mic ( the days of profs having 'operatic' voice as job qualification are long gone )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw 'lapel mic' was standard issue even at asciilifeform's uni in early 2000s. so i have nfi re the brits
diana_coman: they probably...were already
mircea_popescu: the good fellows of 1600'd have been ever so appaled.
asciilifeform: speaking of optics, asciilifeform replaced the sad webcam thing bolted to the torture room iron pole with a modern-day 25megapixel thing. should make for some decent shots once i get that bolix...
diana_coman: yeah, I did not even consider getting the gear myself - if they weren't so inept re org I'd have just ask the uni to provide, wtf
diana_coman: basically the only time it worked fine it was with a mic attached and that was it
mircea_popescu: i usually get kinda ok ones. or got, before moving on to live dactilographist before moving on to not doing these anymore.
diana_coman: I also move quite a lot actually, I don't tend to sit by the laptop or anything of the sort
diana_coman: as the sound is horrible at best
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "Since there is no recording of the talk" << this is kinda unfortunate. just leave a laptop with the mic going behind, you know ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 23:36 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879331 -> I just looked and apparently I misspoke re number - that was counting all the UDP tests I made too, so no, overall not *that* many; at any rate, after the UDP test finished, the tcpdump kept on listening and I got this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oonKc/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 23:08 asciilifeform: this is moar of a fault of bitcoin, rather than diana_coman's lecture tho..
mircea_popescu: and paduche la paduche trage, because they never went to school, never heard of charge, weak nuclear force, etc.
mircea_popescu: "In the New Thought philosophy, the Law of Attraction is the belief that by focusing on positive or negative thoughts, people can bring positive or negative experiences into their life.[1][2] The belief is based on the idea that people and their thoughts are both made from pure energy, and that through the process of like energy attracting like energy a person can improve their own health, wealth, and personal relationships. "
asciilifeform: aa the 'fake till make' thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cca 2005ish packaging of the pantsuit/usgtard ideas on magic. nth rehash of the "if you think something really really hard it will be".
mircea_popescu: but whatever, some people manage the cern datahose, some people count the packing peanuts, it's all numbers right.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, i'm reading the log in order lol.
mircea_popescu: the avik dood.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the voip spammer ?!
diana_coman: aha, the "telephone adapter" thing
asciilifeform: diana_coman: interesting, all but 1 seem to be garbage from the switch ; and the remaining 1 seems to be a ... voip spam attempt
diana_coman: for completeness, the tcpdump cmd was this: tcpdump -i eth0 udp port 7000 -vv -X
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at your earliest convenience, plz route all packets having unassigned ip as destionation, to the 2nd nic on dulap, i'd like to make 'radiotelescope' for martian udp there
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 15:18 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879321 << this is pretty interesting. diana_coman if you have time plz post the trimmed dump bin
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879331 -> I just looked and apparently I misspoke re number - that was counting all the UDP tests I made too, so no, overall not *that* many; at any rate, after the UDP test finished, the tcpdump kept on listening and I got this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oonKc/?raw=true
trinque: ah k, that'd explain it. wasn't built there, just unpacked from package.
diana_coman: trinque, onth the host machine otherwise *does* have python installed, v 2.7.6 so dunno, somehow it did install it without the shm thing
diana_coman: kk; meanwhile I still have on the list to figure out what's the diff that messes up the python installation thing on the other machine...
trinque: ah, nope, few other differences besides that. I'll work through this and report what I find.
diana_coman: np, let me know if there's anything else I can provide to help
diana_coman: now I'm even curious if it's the same as bvt's
diana_coman: trinque, the cuntoo genesis .vpatch I got is at http://ossasepia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/genesis_2018_12_10.vpatch
diana_coman: well yes, clear is clear for who has any idea ; but tbh I think it was the first time they really got *any* idea re crypto at all
diana_coman: they did wake up at some point and esp re the WoT - perhaps it was closer home, or perhaps it rankled more
asciilifeform: this is moar of a fault of bitcoin, rather than diana_coman's lecture tho..
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the only immediate gotcha that stands out to asciilifeform's lens is that the public crypto example was rsa ( did anyone ask 'but prof. coman, bitcoin dun use rsa?' )
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879373 << They are probably going to wonder what you offer that competes with Xanax
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 20:30 asciilifeform: is this same 'for' as when the good doktor chowdhra offered to accept nobel 'for satoshi' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yea but is there a coherent picture in the psychosis or only rng barf.
bvt: the genesis.vpatch from vtools vdiff is here: http://bvt-trace.net/pub/genesis.vpatch the one from sha512sum vdiff: http://bvt-trace.net/pub/genesis-sha512.vpatch
bvt: trinque: i also have problems verifying the genesis.vpatch that i got from running ./bootstrap.sh. 1 question: which exactly vdiff should i use? the one from vtools or from http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vdiff-fixes/ ?
diana_coman: anyways, now I'm kind of curious whether any of them actually makes a key and shows up in #eulora or somewhere
diana_coman: you know, I asked the prof to take at least some pictures and he was so intently following that he...forgot; had to ask him at the end to take at least 2, lol
BingoBoingo: Apparently the local stooges are leaning increasingly on essentialidad during these spats https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/un-recorrido-por-los-decretos-de-esencialidad-del-gobierno--20181210142625
diana_coman: I'll publish the slides and all
diana_coman: asciilifeform, basically "what is bitcoin" + innovation vs subversion and I used WoT + V as examples; the WoT sparked a ton of questions
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what was the lecture about ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879340 -> it actually was fun - it rankled them badly that "it's not fair" lol
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 15 hours and 40 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
trinque: yep, shows you diff of what the package wanted to do to the contents of /etc, iirc apt does same
trinque: I'll want to root out the indeterminism in the script (timestamp? machine name?) and rerelease
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 14:06 diana_coman: trinque, after fixing my vdiff on the laptop, I re-run the cuntoo script; it finished fine and it produced a 4.7M genesis.vpatch but the sig does NOT verify ("BAD signature")
mircea_popescu: psa : one point of mp-wp people might not be familiar with is the feed encoding. like here : http://bimbo.club/?feed=rss2 ; that leading "OTIxMjQ0NTYxMTJ8MTc5LjUwLjIyNi4xNjE=" encodes the ip of the caller. if you get your feeds republished (often done by spammers ), you de-base the string and can ban the scrapper by ip.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-10#1879321 << this is pretty interesting. diana_coman if you have time plz post the trimmed dump bin
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that was a putative as-to-the-eventual-future discussion. i'm not aware we have static lamp, though it's not yet clear it strictly can't be done.
diana_coman: let me know if there is some specific info I can provide to help re diff perhaps
diana_coman: trinque, after fixing my vdiff on the laptop, I re-run the cuntoo script; it finished fine and it produced a 4.7M genesis.vpatch but the sig does NOT verify ("BAD signature")
diana_coman: ftr that is from running the cuntoo script on a different machine - apparently I managed to find a configuration that breaks it; I'll have to see what exactly is the difference that breaks it
diana_coman: anyway, trinque your script is actually doing the right thing as far as I can tell for now
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879168 - it seems it's actually the ..vdiff that is borked on that laptop, ugh; I'll have to look into it and sort that out first
a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 16:44 mircea_popescu: diana_coman note that "binary identity" is not even necessary a premise. you can go "hey shithead, why the fuck are you linking dynamic mysql when there's been a static one for five years". or w/e.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo: here's the accounting-side statement for november: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Xfsgf/?raw=true . production of these numbers is largely automatic, the stitching together is largely manual. now that i've coughed up november's numbers, i'll go back and apply this methodology to regenerating september and october statements, in the process identifying the bits to mechanize for future
mircea_popescu: o brother.
mircea_popescu: the number 9 is not universally known, what hope's left for jesus or w/e action figurine.
mircea_popescu: universally known my foot, most nobody ever read it, or could be bothered to.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile some hurr about moses or abraham or whatever... these aren't somebodies. they're nobodies, did nothing, contributed nothing, i care about as much as to what abraham spawned out of which women as i care whether obama's ugly mother spit him out a week before or a week after they left kenya city harbor.
mircea_popescu: and not even gossip is all made the same. when i drop http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878182 it falls like a bomb because biographic minutia and "then he said"s of newton and taylor are still interesting -- these are somebodies, people who described actual, verifiable properties of defined abstracts, and so people marginally care whether they took showers or baths and so on.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the problem could be stated as "yes, sex is universally interesting, being a fundamental human behaviour ; whereas religion is universally uninteresting, being fundamentally indistinguishable from gossip."
mircea_popescu: or the phonebook.
mircea_popescu: technically speaking, it's not "really so much different" from finnegans wake, either.
trinque: pats danielpbarron on the back for his twitter posts?
trinque: danielpbarron: here's a question. on the glorious day after everyone on twitter agrees, falls before lord jesus, etc., what next?
trinque: any projects other than getting blocked by derps on twitter?
trinque: couple of old women talking about who said the bad?
trinque: on the subject of struggles to emulate stupid, danielpbarron I can't imagine what this post is meant to convey.
nicoleci: not always great to do the unbelievable
asciilifeform bbl, petting pet, then moar maffs
asciilifeform: i spat at the idea, but was pleasantly surprised when actually tried.
asciilifeform: it's entertaining in strictly 'oh hey they threw brick and i can watch it hit my face' etc visceral thing.
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean, it's not like i have tons of art looking for ways to ease public consumption thereof.
asciilifeform: orthogonal to the thoughts
mircea_popescu: in fact, if trilema the blog is dedicated to anything as a literary exercise, it would be very plainly "there's no such thing as gists".
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a "gist" anyway, not anymore than "niche" or "equality" or any other of a grosse pantsuit manic moronicities.
mircea_popescu: this is a very broken approach to writing -- thoughts have to flow from one another, in a constructed, harmonious whole. you're supposed to delineate the relations as well as the "gists".
mircea_popescu: and thank the good fellows, they've saved me! it turns out your problem is that you're trying to "select the gist" of your thoughts, and paste it in.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 00:39 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the chick's something else. she loses like 40-50 iq points in writing. orally she's almost promising ; then she decides she's gonna write up an article, has a pretty decent idea for one, gets to work and what comes out is barely fit for jr high. i've never seen anything like this before.
asciilifeform was deep in the midst of an algebraic headache for 48+ hrs, only nao getting out
trinque: thing's full of the 'gist' of whichever thoughts she had all lined up in head
mircea_popescu: trinque all they fucking do all day is write, you kidding me ? they work in an office, what else is there to do in an office besides writing ?
mircea_popescu: from anything there is.
mircea_popescu: boys nothing, there's this 40something moron with a collection of "slaves" ie confused girlies on xanax, and so on. heck, danielpbarron is saving her also, apparently.
asciilifeform: trinque: mircea_popescu must've lured away the 1 gurl in that nowhere town or sumthing close
trinque: mircea_popescu: this really adds to the lulz re chorus of bois begging her to say they aren't inadequate.
asciilifeform: otherwise could not
asciilifeform: but only will believe cuz mircea_popescu aint in the habit of making'em up
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the chick's something else. she loses like 40-50 iq points in writing. orally she's almost promising ; then she decides she's gonna write up an article, has a pretty decent idea for one, gets to work and what comes out is barely fit for jr high. i've never seen anything like this before.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
asciilifeform: nicoleci dun seem to have the mp's highlight plugin installed at al
mircea_popescu: they resolve to footnotes.
mircea_popescu: it should not be possible for a mp-wp correctly installed to display the (()) part
asciilifeform: ( shows a properly-blued '"hi, let's try ((This is how they work.)) footnotes"1' )
asciilifeform: the horn << well, 'unicorn' neh
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's these unicorns, "liberal professions". supposedly exist in some circumstances that nobody yet encountered.
mircea_popescu: ro has this habit of recycling the apparatus under diff names, ~same bs as in us but gets a new name every 5ish years.
mircea_popescu: the horn ?!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879175 << tell'em, nicoleci, that it is too late nao : that you have already grown the horn.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 06:01 mircea_popescu: yes, he can apply to boss man to be moved from silverware detail to apendicitis tickling, or vice-versa, to cotton pickin'. but as long as there's the three ring binder, servile profession stays servile profession, and not calling it slavery's exactly like calling the guatemalan sinkhole in your livingroom "my girlfriend". the calling dun change nothing.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 05:47 mircea_popescu: (cursory examination failed to turn up the actual item, was maybe 2016 vintage ; meanwhile snowed in by >9000 inconsequential tidbits a la https://elaineou.com/2018/12/01/dont-hate-her-because-she-commissioned-opposition-research-on-george-soros/ https://elaineou.com/2018/11/27/a-bitcoin-is-forever/ etc. spoiler : 2 out of past 3 offerings, rewritten "in own words" tlp articles, pete dushenski style.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879123 << astonishing levels of snoar. tho will point out, the 'btc is 4evah' part is lulzy -- not even speaking of hypothetical crypto breaks -- there's, e.g., a built-in sad-fixint-overflow boojum due in < 20yr .
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 15:52 mircea_popescu: #KillTheMales
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 16:22 mircea_popescu: possibly it's the actual substance of gender identity, "when girls do x i find it tolerable, when bois do it i find it unbearable" "so you're male ?"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 02:54 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other wtfs, https://blackhattactics.net/i-bring-tidings-of-the-most-serene-republic.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-08#1879048 << i turn these up erry coupla months, some rando derp claims to tmsr etc
diana_coman: it's more that I'll be away in a few hours anyway and then it's night here so it may as well just run fully until tomorrow morning
trinque: can speed things up by copying /cuntoo/packages/* to the packages folder in the bootstrapper dir
diana_coman: trinque, yes, I seem to have a bootable drive at the end of it but empty .vpatch file; where exactly should I add the -x?
trinque: I'll re-run on my end as well and confirm that I get the same results I did last time.
trinque: the empty dirs are weird indeed. I think -x at the top of that script will tell us more, if you would be so kind.
trinque: I roll through all other block devices but the target one and explicitly tell lilo not to fuck with them.
diana_coman: also, why does it try to write to read-only stuff on /dev/sda or what am I failing to understand there?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-09 09:36 diana_coman: trinque, running the cuntoo script as root on Gentoo laptop with ./bootstrap.sh -k config/4.9.95-apu2 -d /dev/sdb where the laptop's own system is on /dev/sda and that /dev/sdb is an external drive connected via USB; all the partitioning+compilations seem to work fine but at the end the make_portage_tree script fails for lack of stuff and looking a bit higher up in the output I get this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mbkqu/?raw=true
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-09#1879137 << the warnings from cp are expected. I'm copying just files, not dirs (perhaps there's a way to suppress this warning?). If the script stopped at this point for you, I'd be curious what adding -x to the shebang at top tells us.
mircea_popescu: Mr. Beam Friday, 25 November 2016 '"Used on blogging sites, mostly Tumblr, is an expression that denotes so many emotional responses that the user cant even comprehend what has been said or seen. " << Wrong. Intel first introduced a line of Pentriums that couldn't even.' Mircea Popescu 'I thought the Intels couldn't odd.'
BingoBoingo: I can't recall the beam fellow
BingoBoingo: Ths one? http://trilema.com/2016/honor-societies-vs-respect-societies-or-how-the-disaster-of-commons-sunk-the-western-world/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you perchance recall which trilema piece explained why and wherefore politeness is a social bad (inflates away the value system) ?
BingoBoingo: Really, its a whole pile of WTFs all the way down
mircea_popescu: they're so lulzy, these schmucks. srsly now, if i wanted to play with six year old girls i'd have stayed six years old. who the fuck ever does ?!
BingoBoingo getting clean air before making one last dive into the corral of mediocrity
diana_coman: trinque, running the cuntoo script as root on Gentoo laptop with ./bootstrap.sh -k config/4.9.95-apu2 -d /dev/sdb where the laptop's own system is on /dev/sda and that /dev/sdb is an external drive connected via USB; all the partitioning+compilations seem to work fine but at the end the make_portage_tree script fails for lack of stuff and looking a bit higher up in the output I get this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mbkqu/?raw=true
lobbes: ^^ lemme know if you end up needing the post-by-post history and I can shoot that over too
lobbesbot: lobbes: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: yes, he can apply to boss man to be moved from silverware detail to apendicitis tickling, or vice-versa, to cotton pickin'. but as long as there's the three ring binder, servile profession stays servile profession, and not calling it slavery's exactly like calling the guatemalan sinkhole in your livingroom "my girlfriend". the calling dun change nothing.
mircea_popescu: um south" slave who'll pick cotton, exactly as much and not an iota more or less as there's cotton to be picked, and will brush silverware exactly as much and not an iota more or less as there's silverware to brush.
mircea_popescu: the difference is that some do what they will and the rest do what they can. that's it, and there's no talking out of it available, the surgeon will operate a case of apendicitis every single time a case of apendicits walks in the er door. not a single time less nor a single time more. "nobody asks him" in this exact sense, he'll do what there's to be done according to the book of his slavery, much EXACRTLY like the "antebell
mircea_popescu: the question is not "whether slave has some leeway". all living things always have some leway. the question is, in romanian, "desteptu' face bani din ce doreste, prostu' din ce poate" ; and in latin, "si quis, inquis, dives est, tum cenare potest cum cupit. si pauper, tum cenare debet cum potest."
mircea_popescu: nor can this be dispelled by anecdotal example. ~of fucking course~ there's 90yos you'd love to have dinner with. few and fart between.
mircea_popescu: being old sucks, and this isn't going to change by how you package the old folks. it's not "serenity cedars" or whatever stupid name's fault that there's no great 90yo strippers, or wrestlers, or whatever the fuck. no reforming of retirement homes is gonna make senior citizens a pleasure to drive behind. and so on.
mircea_popescu: much like the fact that old people will either be found loitering in old people homes or else loitering in parks and train stations isn't possibly an indictment of old people homes ; but of old age.
mircea_popescu: to sum up : "antebellum slaves" weren't "some people with absolutely no options". they were "some people whose continued existence depends on ~others~ maintaining an ecosystem for them". their "freed" descendants replicated the original situation exactly, they're came up with "the rap industry" to "tryna make it in", an' when clinton gave them free houses they failed to keep up with the payments. this doesn't sum to an indict
mircea_popescu: (cursory examination failed to turn up the actual item, was maybe 2016 vintage ; meanwhile snowed in by >9000 inconsequential tidbits a la https://elaineou.com/2018/12/01/dont-hate-her-because-she-commissioned-opposition-research-on-george-soros/ https://elaineou.com/2018/11/27/a-bitcoin-is-forever/ etc. spoiler : 2 out of past 3 offerings, rewritten "in own words" tlp articles, pete dushenski style.)
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no difference between scarlet o'hara's mammy and that elaineou chick';s story about how she didn't get subtype x of brand y of packaged "food" at office because she got it at home and she wanted ~some way~ to distinguish between the two.
mats: i understand the pedagogical purpose of what you're saying
mats: doctors are asked to decide what their specialization will be, what grants they are looking to pursue in order to undertake some research
mats: its normal for lieutenants to be asked whether they're looking to go command track, staff; what their top 3 stations are; ncos can volunteer for special billets like recruiting, babysitting privates as instructors, embassy duty, going through various schools under jsoc, ...
mircea_popescu: when's the last time you ever heard anyone ask a sailor/doctor/starlet/best grip/screenwriter/whatever what ~they~ would want to do ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 23:32 mircea_popescu: to restate in these terms, "two young males, fractional '''girlfriend''' they'd have to pay to get rid of, living with parents, hoping to be one day paid by inca for the useless '''work''' they want to do" etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1875076 discussion very much apropos. there's either domestic slave, or domestic liability. "wife" "girlfriend" "significant other" bla bla bla sad if transparent attempts at confounding the issue through labels. "oh, it's not directly evident if i mean she's the head of the household or the drain in the balance sheet". "no, actually, i think i can tell".
mircea_popescu: contrary to what overexicted emotards like to pretend, there ~isn't~ a third.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the best possible thing you can be is property. the alternative is being a liability.