ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: is usagi trying to get you to do biz with him?
ben_vulpes: noice
ben_vulpes: nubbins`:
ben_vulpes: is that a chrysalis at the bottom in the face?
ben_vulpes: deterrence i get, but chasing those already flown?
ben_vulpes: legislature surely will have more interesting things on their hands.
ben_vulpes: 'course, hanging here doesn't help much with that.
ben_vulpes: don't outrun bear, be a less visible target than others
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even see the point of expatriation
ben_vulpes: creating noise
ben_vulpes puts the fiat assets in lady v's name
ben_vulpes: best to own nothing
ben_vulpes: ah, i guess its > 2mil in assets or 157K+ for five years running
ben_vulpes: if one has more than several hundred thousand US there are more taxes than just the expatriation fee.
ben_vulpes: to js or to not js...
ben_vulpes: today i learned that the html date field doesn't support placeholders
ben_vulpes: http://www.live5news.com/story/26319685/cops-summerville-high-school-student-arrested-after-writing-threatening-message-on-assignment
ben_vulpes goes off to come naturally
ben_vulpes: more like an unkempt bush than any sort of a hedge
ben_vulpes: i bet that model has yet to be...modeled.
ben_vulpes: <The20YearIRCloud> And it's hard to judge when that will be, otherwise I do believe our model hedges well against USD collapse, and any major problems << good old belief in the hedge.
ben_vulpes: !t h rent
ben_vulpes: ain't none
ben_vulpes: indexing the blockchain? sed and awk!
ben_vulpes: jurov: *shrug*
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the insureds will always complain about inadequate coverage, and the insurers will always complain about social inflation.
ben_vulpes: !l m s.mpoe
ben_vulpes: !t l s.mpoe
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual lee scratch perry - what a guy.
ben_vulpes: top notch
ben_vulpes applauds
ben_vulpes: great logs tonight
ben_vulpes: evening vex
ben_vulpes: "I respectfully question how you can authoritatively champion mining code written primarily in another language entirely." << because fuck the reference implementations.
ben_vulpes: " My dislike of other mining nodes is a consequence of directly correlated forking dangers of alternative mining code, and I think we both know that." << one of these days i'm going to get left behind as reward for my courtesy of loyalty to the power rangers i can feel it coming but maybe if i complain a lot in public maybe the inevitable won't happen
ben_vulpes: "Bitcoind core itself of course mostly tried to accept both forks and let the stronger one win." << sounds like the sort of thing a "core" "dev team" should really address - maximum fork size < utxos? mhm.
ben_vulpes: forks are how bitcoin-core dies. quit burning fuel trying to prevent the inevitable.
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26h3o8/btcd_beta_announcement/chub4sp << forks are great yo quit bitching
ben_vulpes: can't be arsed. here's to the sybils!
ben_vulpes: babe calls dinner is ready
ben_vulpes: aight mes ami
ben_vulpes: plz or cunts
ben_vulpes: errywhere
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: looking good frere!
ben_vulpes: why a gc call? why there? what the ever loving fuck is the story?
ben_vulpes: un savory garnishes
ben_vulpes: i'll posit you the other scenario: bisect the codebase inserting GC calls until we find one innocuously positioned that can discredit the btcd team
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust justusranvier
ben_vulpes: this is precisely the fud.
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: user did idiot shit with code, code broke. surprise!
ben_vulpes: and van-ads.com
ben_vulpes: justusranvier: yeah, i run ch
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.001/21000000
ben_vulpes: what's a thousandth of a coin worth in three decades?
ben_vulpes: traffic is worthless. tips?
ben_vulpes: nah mostly joshin ;)
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3ebmn
ben_vulpes: hey justusranvier i see you collecting btctips off my work
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: still waiting on an explanation of http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg
ben_vulpes: phpsauce
ben_vulpes: and yet with the vim
ben_vulpes: do you mean this shit on github?
ben_vulpes: lol what the ever locing fuck
ben_vulpes: access to the conformal code
ben_vulpes: this negrating is for this set of things.
ben_vulpes: like i said
ben_vulpes: yeah well
ben_vulpes: rating ninjashogun positively for "politeness"
ben_vulpes: throwing fud at Conformal for "politeness"
ben_vulpes: shit's just mad suspicious.
ben_vulpes: all right all right!
ben_vulpes: this minus is for this set of things.
ben_vulpes: and these other minuses
ben_vulpes: it's got these pluses
ben_vulpes: well i've got my WoT over here, mkay?
ben_vulpes drums fingers angrily
ben_vulpes: they are for trustworthiness and trustworthiness only.
ben_vulpes: or "civility"
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: ratings are not for "politeness"
ben_vulpes: cannot deal
ben_vulpes: sry
ben_vulpes: !down Tao_Jones
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg << what the hell does that even mean
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: if you don't understand why this conversation belongs in #bitcoin-assets...
ben_vulpes: wow that's quite the paste
ben_vulpes: anyways, midnightmagic there is no playing nice with "core" dev "team".
ben_vulpes: shits
ben_vulpes: my
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3t55d
ben_vulpes: look at this reddit angst
ben_vulpes: oh jesus you guys
ben_vulpes: oh not actually ninjashogun
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: what is this lawsuit?
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: i did for quite some time.
ben_vulpes: pythugh
ben_vulpes: orly gribs?
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust midnightmagic ninjashogun
ben_vulpes: and what is this charitable thing?
ben_vulpes: you're the lone positive supporter of ninjaspamgun.
ben_vulpes: conformal is not misbehaving.
ben_vulpes: there is no playing nice with bitcoin-core.
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: is this you? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3kwf4
ben_vulpes: ;;rate midnightmagic -1
ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3848beb16b68ec5ecee1475ddbe35c09c87cb06bfa9f07946cc58571
ben_vulpes: ;;everify if we're defending against collisions, extracting keyids doesn't help much.
ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: ;;rate midnightmagic -1
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust midnightmagic
ben_vulpes: gotcha.
ben_vulpes: in that there is a signature and a keyid.
ben_vulpes: but in the case of an unknown key, pgp cannot determine if a signature is valid.
ben_vulpes: can you even verify a signature without a public key?
ben_vulpes: in the former all it does is...
ben_vulpes: in the latter case it compares the known pubkey to the sig
ben_vulpes: and gpg verifies that the keyid is valid for the sig?
ben_vulpes: okay, great
ben_vulpes: hash == keyid, right? where does gpg get the hash? from the signature itself?
ben_vulpes: what is "x" in this case - hash or name + email fields?
ben_vulpes: or that the signature is valid for hash "x" but that there may be collisions?
ben_vulpes: so signed by "x" does not imply that the signature is valid?
ben_vulpes: !s ben_vulpes lol
ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: it's like "i find this amusing, even though nobody else probably does, or someone's trolling me, but it's not quite lolworthy")
ben_vulpes: hue
ben_vulpes: i have two whole beers to get through before i knock off for the long weekend i want to read more unit tests
ben_vulpes: MolokoDeck: care to share ?
ben_vulpes: gribble does sigver?
ben_vulpes: john m kerry thanks mircea_popescu !
ben_vulpes: zplzplpzlpzlpz
ben_vulpes: zlp
ben_vulpes: i'm dying here halp pl
ben_vulpes: regarding borrowing gold and refusing to pay it back?
ben_vulpes: what's the "no congress shall be held to the agreements of a previous congress" citation?
ben_vulpes: you can message gribble privately, MolokoDeck
ben_vulpes: i don't even recall the name of the suit.
ben_vulpes: does anyone have a link to the lawsuit by the guy who sued the usg for the gold they 'borrowed'?
ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to that thing where coinbase straight up blocks certain addrs?
ben_vulpes: http://blog.coinbase.com/post/95927658922/coinbase-insured << but not for cold storage
ben_vulpes: i can now provision my app cannon onto arbitrary amazon accounts
ben_vulpes: i have beaten aws into submission
ben_vulpes: i guess that period's fine after all
ben_vulpes: probably the wise thing.
ben_vulpes: SHARE
ben_vulpes: show meeeee
ben_vulpes: what kind of text?
ben_vulpes: wat
ben_vulpes: they're texting photos of van?
ben_vulpes: open it open it open it
ben_vulpes: but i see where you're coming from, jurov.
ben_vulpes: twist: wherever consultant suggests hosting move, that's where hosting will move.
ben_vulpes: keep in mind this is a wp hosting company using plesk.
ben_vulpes: assume that client a has the most cash flowing through the box by 2 orders of magnitude. is hosting company b's behavior reasonable?
ben_vulpes: client brings in consultants to look at their security, and consultants ask for shell access to the server on which client sites are running. hosting company b flat declines consultants access to hardware.
ben_vulpes: there's client a, hosting company b, and consultants c
ben_vulpes: so here's an interesting interpersonal situation
ben_vulpes: hard for anyone to value properly
ben_vulpes: bitcoins now vs bitcoins later i guess
ben_vulpes: receptionist rates were too high
ben_vulpes: uh ho
ben_vulpes: ;;google fuck you i'm a dragon
ben_vulpes: world keeps moving forwards while you're playing at being a dragon, thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: i use a kindle, would like a kindle dx.
ben_vulpes: never mind pankkake. sorry to bother everyone.
ben_vulpes: oh god that's bad. "."?
ben_vulpes: dat fractal of bad design
ben_vulpes: they also emailed me my password in plaintext
ben_vulpes: <pankkake> you're not ashamed of that .php? :p << not my service
ben_vulpes: (it's a joke)
ben_vulpes: (hue)
ben_vulpes: van is a flawless crystal of tests tho
ben_vulpes: my life is a patchwork of duct tape
ben_vulpes: yeah that xml is totes broken.
ben_vulpes: i derped a feed together for cascadianhacker.com
ben_vulpes: ah hi pankkake
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
ben_vulpes: ;;late tell pete_dushenski also: "if it ain't about money i go/nowhere i'm nailed to the floor"
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "it's going down it's going down like there's a whale in the boat"
ben_vulpes: who runs penguirker?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a transition in the lifecycle
ben_vulpes: quit wasting precious hydrocarbons ffs
ben_vulpes: push your meat around.
ben_vulpes: get on a bike.
ben_vulpes: these wheelboxen drive me insane
ben_vulpes: i can't even imagine a world in which bits are expensive
ben_vulpes: there were 4 lines of lcd (or maybe only 2, i was a wee one at the time) and then transmitted them to the poo-snaper via fax iirc
ben_vulpes: my mother once wrote her articles on a 4 line typewriter-cum-puter thing
ben_vulpes: there's like 80 years of decisions in this thing.
ben_vulpes: computers are fascinating devices.
ben_vulpes: man!
ben_vulpes: lol decimation i have that precise url open right now already
ben_vulpes googles frantically
ben_vulpes: frequency shit keying...
ben_vulpes: teletype, which...ancient transmission of text hardware?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah, i figured tty was involved but what does that first 't' stand for?
ben_vulpes: is this one of those "tar" -> "tape archive" things?
ben_vulpes: on a radically different topic (if nobody minds), when miscellaneous computerboxen tell me "falling back to teletype" is that a reference to the Teletype Corporation of the thirties?
ben_vulpes: yeah.
ben_vulpes: (sense of)
ben_vulpes: in the "socialize the losses, privitize the gains"?
ben_vulpes: i mean i have no clue. perhaps communism is just a thing that the us progpagandacrats came up with to point at to distract the proles from that as what was going on on the daily at home
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what distinguishes 'socialism' from 'communism'?
ben_vulpes: that's a tidy duality.
ben_vulpes: with a heavy dose of "also we can handle with a fair degree of politeness anyone in your business who feels compelled to comment on the quality of our work"
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: for the poor student - what is a real economy?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: best as i can tell, my business' sole selling point is "we're not fucking retarded and won't flake on you as soon as something more shiny comes along"
ben_vulpes: i'll let you know if i ever figure it out
ben_vulpes: no gold's bullshit as an index due to its captivity in government vaults and its absurd inflation via notes
ben_vulpes: decimation: now normalize it against m3 ;)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what do you mean by "fascist" in this context?
ben_vulpes: us kids get down, tho
ben_vulpes: ears may bleed etc
ben_vulpes: listener beware
ben_vulpes: "techno"
ben_vulpes: "klezmer"
ben_vulpes: a sample of some horrible modern klezmer techno
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/8becd406-e80b-4e13-bc29-81c6ace8f8f4
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: beats antique is sort of in the genre of mention
ben_vulpes: hue
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: on a first listen?
ben_vulpes: the gypsy dubstep fusion is about as close as it gets right now
ben_vulpes: y'r also not a filthy kike
ben_vulpes: not unexpected, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: do you understand black american music as sung/read/rapped?
ben_vulpes: actually better question
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever listened to the album in question?
ben_vulpes: i figure this is related to why i can't make any money scamming "nobody will ever fall for that!"
ben_vulpes: i can't wrap my head around how these people would give dryuns kids jobs and not see this coming ten miles away
ben_vulpes: landlord of record has 2? 3? kw of sound equipment for my pleasure.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm now playing The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill loud enough for the bums outside the warehouse to hear
ben_vulpes: sure, that
ben_vulpes: how was dryun coerced though?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell ognasty do stop in to the channel of record and explain how i'm abusing the WoT rating system.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: negrated him for pimping pirate
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQOD8M6Okoc
ben_vulpes: i got my first negrating this month guys
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust danielpbarron
ben_vulpes: of fucking course bingo, the latter is black and makes better music
ben_vulpes: hook from the latter "i guess that cunt gettin' eatin"
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk
ben_vulpes: OLD NOOZ, KAKO
ben_vulpes: the rules for firearm handling at us airports are pretty cut-and-dried.
ben_vulpes: that's not so unbelievable.
ben_vulpes: cream coulda been derpslosives tho!
ben_vulpes: all hail the benevolent socialist state of oregon
ben_vulpes: our local state-owned booze monopoly
ben_vulpes: Oregon Liquor Control Commission