ben_vulpes: ah yeah
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: coin?
ben_vulpes: all the american tards who "buy" "btc" via schwab
ben_vulpes: that one kinda makes my knees shake a bit
ben_vulpes: the etf
ben_vulpes: rap artist == drug addict?
ben_vulpes: shit's gotta be robust to survive proximate to me
ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu in this situation it's probably my own hulk-smash behavior
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: it's one of those "ask a guy who likes flying if he'd rather have 500K or a 6-seater" situations
ben_vulpes: it's specifically the internal release, but go on.
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes is enrolling in the b-a paupery competition
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: the passenger door dun work on my wheelbox, i ninja escape over the stick frequently
ben_vulpes: but go on with the parkour, mircea
ben_vulpes: my dance set theory's weak though.
ben_vulpes: capoeira's definitly older.
ben_vulpes: capoeira is also a superset of breakdancing then
ben_vulpes: ?
ben_vulpes: expanding horizons
ben_vulpes: oh yeah forget ye not ceelo
ben_vulpes: all pop songs are generic man
ben_vulpes: i sign the song generic
ben_vulpes: pharell williams
ben_vulpes: dafuq?
ben_vulpes: ;;ud weather eye
ben_vulpes: don't you have to do abhorrent things to their genetics to get them to poop diesel? i'm just talking about rendering the grass/beans into alcohols i think.
ben_vulpes: new topic! bamboo vs soy for biodiesel production?
ben_vulpes: gotcha.
ben_vulpes: "hi! this is sue. sorry to have disturbed you. goodbye!"
ben_vulpes: the girl just got the most mysterious robo call
ben_vulpes: but are they on the welfare rolls?
ben_vulpes: lulzy indeed pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: no you see the eu must approve it
ben_vulpes: ie whoever locked their ticket in at the highest dollar price
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: what's the formal rule?
ben_vulpes: man my conference tickets are looking really cheap all of a sudden
ben_vulpes: to 100!
ben_vulpes: wars*
ben_vulpes: wards of 500, eh?
ben_vulpes: bounce: good book?
ben_vulpes: the defense rests, your honor.
ben_vulpes: must be why you want a fancy database of resumes and positions
ben_vulpes: what about the first kid he trotted through here?
ben_vulpes: you're not hard to find is what i'm saying.
ben_vulpes: not really much of an accomplishment.
ben_vulpes: published libs and such
ben_vulpes: Azelphur: you stand out.
ben_vulpes: does the recruiter then interview my team as well?
ben_vulpes: typically the interview is aborted by pitches like yours.
ben_vulpes: finding people who can do sales lead gen is hard enough, how the fuck am i to trust someone whose technical competence i have no notion of to identify people with technical talent?
ben_vulpes: maybe someday i'll outsource leadgen, but i've yet to find anyone to trust with the job because they all sound as full of shit as you.
ben_vulpes: tis a part of the job, identifying and bringing on collaborators.
ben_vulpes: not overtime
ben_vulpes: (in support of sales *and* recruitment)
ben_vulpes: i network my ass off
ben_vulpes: we host the odd one of the above
ben_vulpes: design nights
ben_vulpes: ux nights
ben_vulpes: developer nights
ben_vulpes: people go to meetups
ben_vulpes: we also chew through contractors, looking for people to hire.
ben_vulpes: we identify target hires as a group and then fucking hire them.
ben_vulpes: i don't hope, i plan and execute.
ben_vulpes: you're also ignoring the "whole team does recruiting" strategy.
ben_vulpes: spamgun, anyone?
ben_vulpes: for companies with reputations for quality, it's not nearly as guaranteed as you claim.
ben_vulpes: maybe for bigcorp.
ben_vulpes: so you can shoehorn yourself in?
ben_vulpes: what? why?
ben_vulpes: anyone receiving emails on the "get in touch with us" inbox
ben_vulpes: in an engineering organization, this is an engineering function for engineering roles.
ben_vulpes: <RagnarDanneskjol> every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process << false.
ben_vulpes: if you're growing a dev team and your devs aren't actively bringing in their friends, you're doing it entirely incorrectly.
ben_vulpes: the notion that a person must go through a recruiter to get a job is utter nonsense.
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: many devs respond to a few here and there, but the random sample is typically not enough cash, bizarre stacks, crazy mgmt or {google,yahoo,ms} again instead of anything interesting. a few interactions like this and the dev is poisoned against recruiters forever.
ben_vulpes: by thursday
ben_vulpes: 1800 lines
ben_vulpes: i'm declaring log bankruptcy
ben_vulpes: how did that bitbet hack attempt play out?
ben_vulpes: davidtilapia
ben_vulpes: <Dimsler> http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg << too good
ben_vulpes wonders if there's an actual API behind gribble's UD integration or just screenscraping.
ben_vulpes: that's...
ben_vulpes: woof
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: not obsessive, but context-sensitive.
ben_vulpes: it's pretty smart
ben_vulpes: but what
ben_vulpes: there's also oglafbot, that one's even more single-purpose.
ben_vulpes: your pop culture references have been duly noted
ben_vulpes: <******> You've made three unsuccessful attempts to find your account. We've locked this session for security reasons. Please close and reopen your browser to start again. << annals of web security engineering
ben_vulpes: p. sure those girls are out of the running.
ben_vulpes: ;;google melia obama
ben_vulpes: it was a long shot
ben_vulpes: ;;google melia
ben_vulpes: 'swing yer partner round and round...'
ben_vulpes: a fine dynastic do-si-do
ben_vulpes: ah shit i did indeed
ben_vulpes: hillary rules for eight, michelle for eight, chelsea for eight, melia is now eligible for presidency.
ben_vulpes: it's not implausible.
ben_vulpes: (melia's 16)
ben_vulpes: 24 + 16
ben_vulpes: clinton (8) + obama (8) + clinton (8) = 24
ben_vulpes: ms clinton's eligible for the presidency in another year
ben_vulpes: <bounce> michele vs. hillary << kirchner's in the usa!
ben_vulpes: nite all
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lawskycode
ben_vulpes: do only two machines matter?
ben_vulpes: hm.
ben_vulpes: what is a marriage to the wot?
ben_vulpes: punkman: v machine: of course. k machine: indubitably. f machine? not so much. usg machine? not in my wildest dreams.
ben_vulpes: assuredly does, but what machines run that code?
ben_vulpes: punkman: transfer of ownership, so to speak.
ben_vulpes: this is derived from your "no groups, only individuals" theories.
ben_vulpes: under lawcode, i cannot actually know what i'm bound by.
ben_vulpes: (on another topic, i concede that you're right as always about plagiarised commits: the signature only implies responsibility for the contents)
ben_vulpes: hm wat
ben_vulpes: shit's going to get messy w/r/t taxes etc
ben_vulpes: that's the point i'm making - i copy pasted that code, so to speak, without understanding it.
ben_vulpes: what i do understand are the rules that bind her to me.
ben_vulpes: i don't understand all of the rules i'm bound by under the contract i've entered into with usg and lady v
ben_vulpes: what is a marriage? what does the priest have to say matter a whit?
ben_vulpes: copy pasted code in my experience is rarely understood.
ben_vulpes: experience.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: re commits, if an individual copied and pasted a block of code, i'm going to have a hard time believing that they actually understand it.
ben_vulpes: bouncy bouncy
ben_vulpes backs away slowly
ben_vulpes: punkman: " built in Laravel or another OOP PHP framework"
ben_vulpes: ran into a npm hell-tuation
ben_vulpes: "build"
ben_vulpes: fwiw i never got insight to build
ben_vulpes: tasty tasty js
ben_vulpes: Vexual: i dunno how to help, boss
ben_vulpes: lol Vexual can't up sober
ben_vulpes: ;;ident Vexual
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: well, "view pull request" in list view of mails
ben_vulpes: pretty sure this must be old as i don't really gmail too much
ben_vulpes: good grief gmail now shows a link to "view pull request in webview"
ben_vulpes: can't win for america-ing
ben_vulpes: water* birth
ben_vulpes: dafuq is going on over there
ben_vulpes: modern hospitals offer modern birth
ben_vulpes: downsides?
ben_vulpes: cunt intact
ben_vulpes: $50/g
ben_vulpes: so 50/g corn syurp tub
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: > tub of corn syrup
ben_vulpes: midwest water birth?
ben_vulpes: dammit
ben_vulpes: solar
ben_vulpes: is there a lunar eclipse wherever you live and you can get out of the coffin out of schedule?
ben_vulpes: wow what the fuck is wrong with you Vexual
ben_vulpes: <fluffypony> please don't link to Die Antwoord, nubbins` << oh ho why is that?
ben_vulpes: good afternoooooon
ben_vulpes: http://online.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-protests-swell-as-riot-police-withdraw-1411979074?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories << contrast w/ "occupy"
ben_vulpes: thanks chetty, ThickAsThieves
ben_vulpes: nope
ben_vulpes: > couple years
ben_vulpes: BUSINESS IS LIFE UNDER UNCERTAINTY
ben_vulpes: i don't know wtf to do
ben_vulpes: another guy says to just use quickbooks payroll
ben_vulpes: one guy says to hire a whole payroll company
ben_vulpes: why does everything suck, ThickAsThieves
ben_vulpes: animation
ben_vulpes: er
ben_vulpes: their hamburger menu illustration is hilarious
ben_vulpes: if i see this day i will be a happy man.
ben_vulpes: in 20 years, a bitcoin implementation may be software people's "masterpiece" work - eg the piece of work that grants one the title of "master" in the field.
ben_vulpes: if i find commits like that without a "copied without permission from XXX" -- that's a demerit.
ben_vulpes: what is anathema in the previous context mircea_popescu is taking someone else's commits, signing them and claiming them as your own.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: right.
ben_vulpes: and you probably want to hash the lines and sign the hash to boot.
ben_vulpes: i'm demonstrating the range of what's possible, not what i'd do.
ben_vulpes: or, "this signed tag is my stamp on lines xx-yy in file thus.hs"
ben_vulpes: now in the tag, you include a message: "this signed tag is my stamp upon the whole and entirety of the codebase".
ben_vulpes: d'accord.
ben_vulpes: now if you strip whitespace on a line that later turns out to have a mission-critical hole...
ben_vulpes: "i changed these things, and i take responsibility for the content of the change."
ben_vulpes: that's why the commit is the right thing for a contributor to sign.
ben_vulpes: that's the importance of signing the diff.
ben_vulpes: what would it mean for it to be in something that someone signed?
ben_vulpes: sure, i made a change to openssl, and i stand behind it. that should not be taken to be an endorsement of the project.
ben_vulpes: that's why the signatory of the commit can only be held responsible for changes introduced in that commit.
ben_vulpes: er, commit.
ben_vulpes: also i don't really know that git affords for you signing my hash and including it in the repository, from a technical perspective.
ben_vulpes: and multiple people providing input into what precisely should be done. however, the buck must stop with the signer of the commit.
ben_vulpes: the commit is "here is a diff of thing before i started work today, and thing after i finished this feature." it may include tests, changes to other miscellaneous stuff. it should exist (in my opinion, i may be wrong and might need to be argued out of this) as a statement that "i did this work". this clearly gets hazy when you've got multiple eyes on a screen.
ben_vulpes: i'll try.
ben_vulpes: why not encrypt messages to bitcoin private keys? it works, what's the problem?
ben_vulpes: how your wot handles it is unresolved
ben_vulpes: you can do anything you want
ben_vulpes: tux might nota been a party to the crime, but it happened under his watch.
ben_vulpes: a tag is "this release bears my stamp"
ben_vulpes: a commit is "i did this code"
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: you're familiar with tagging in git?
ben_vulpes: a signed tag is a different thing.
ben_vulpes: for the record, signing not your own commits is anathema and will eventually be outed.
ben_vulpes: (just a guess)
ben_vulpes: caching somewhere.
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla ?
ben_vulpes: odd how?
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: !down Luke-Jr
ben_vulpes: let's see if this works yet
ben_vulpes: that's a poor way to work on things
ben_vulpes: not that any of them are written by a key i know anyways.
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: amusingly, you can't even find them when the time comes.
ben_vulpes: !up Diablo-D3
ben_vulpes: it happened on his watch.
ben_vulpes: he was still at the helm.
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: your assertion of such doth not proof make.
ben_vulpes: well, you've got fifteen minutes, Luke-Jr. make the best of 'em.
ben_vulpes: !down Luke-Jr
ben_vulpes: ;;rate luke-jr -1 tard, fud: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2014#849440
ben_vulpes: <Luke-Jr> mircea_popescu: the Linux maintainers are idiots? << a large number of them. do we not hear of linus routinely reaming people for idiocy?
ben_vulpes: yes, the entirely honest and upright japanese police.
ben_vulpes: police? what is this.
ben_vulpes: wouldn't really pass an inspection tbh
ben_vulpes: fuq
ben_vulpes: da
ben_vulpes: well then the sig goes bad and tough luck.
ben_vulpes: b) don't sign too often.
ben_vulpes: a) lol
ben_vulpes: the other arguments i've heard is a) weakens "importance" of signatures and b) leaks keys
ben_vulpes: well that's a load of malarkey.
ben_vulpes: 20% is what - 80 bucks per right now?
ben_vulpes: just don't
ben_vulpes: yeah you can
ben_vulpes: link me to introducing commits tho and i'll start to care
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: lol i ain't digging through y'all's shitpile
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: oh and do explain why
ben_vulpes: hola nanotube
ben_vulpes: until i see commits (ideally signed, but i don't think people were into that sort of thing back then) it's all hot air as far as i can tell
ben_vulpes: eh, link me
ben_vulpes: its a fascinating slapfight i gotta say
ben_vulpes: needs one more negrate
ben_vulpes: surely the commit history shows ck's contribution or lack thereof.
ben_vulpes: so what if troll? so what if pain?
ben_vulpes: ;;seen joecool
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot Diablo-D3
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot Luke-Jr
ben_vulpes: aaaaah dig nanotube's rating of magicaltux
ben_vulpes: dag - you have a 5 from nanotube?
ben_vulpes: i know danielpbarron vaguely, i know Luke-Jr vaguely, i know how to weight their ratings
ben_vulpes: it's adequately policed
ben_vulpes: -1 "i dunno"