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asciilifeform: and these have monumental cost of transport, as already established.
mod6: I guess I should say, that I'm not sure exactly. But we should do a bunch of anaysis to see what would be the best play for capital allocation.
mod6: We aught to look at costs of full size env's that would fit the bill for TMSR~ tooling. Then establish how many we would need & charge for to get out of the red.
asciilifeform looked at erry available rk board on market in last coupla hrs, they are all either of substantially inferior spec, or cost no less than 3x moar per
asciilifeform: this complicates the design of same.
asciilifeform: it appears that we'll still have to construct a larger rk plant, but they will have to be physically racked in such a way as to be replaceable without taking down whole plant
asciilifeform: mod6: note that there is still not afaik anything like a candidate for 'rk, but better'
mod6: I agree about the re-thinking of the 32 new boards.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo agreed to house lobbes et al on his personal rk, until the swap is made, he will fill in the details when he gets back to his console
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma ship new rk + a few spares to BingoBoingo ( who appears to have solved his orc customs problems ) , but the find is concerning in re the wisdom of installing 9000 of'em
asciilifeform: mod6: debug log is there
mod6: If that chinese iron could get the job done for a reasonable rate.. could be pretty good offering.
mod6: Would be awesome if Pizzaro could sell iron that can run cuntoo + ffa + fg + trb out of the gate [ + others too, i.e. eulora, etc ]
asciilifeform: if it was somehow diff from ordinary pediwik, this cannot be determined from the cache
mircea_popescu: https://metapedia.org/ << in other lulz, i had nfi item even existed. anyone know what "traditional enemies" even means there ?!
asciilifeform: ( whether subj item is terraformable rk-style, is yet unknown to asciilifeform )
mircea_popescu: The apparent murder of journalist Ahmed Divela is chilling. Ghana is recognized by many, including me, as a vibrant, strong democracy and an example for the continent in many ways. " meanwhile in related lulz.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-21 23:21 mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated.
mircea_popescu: https://www.playboy.com/read/don-t-fall-for-the-gop-s-scapegoating-of-steve-king-1 << domain squatted by Really Angry Pantsuit (tm), amusingly enough. because totally, that's exactly how this game works, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-21#1247708 etcetera.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-23 21:16 mircea_popescu: which is eerily similar to what these shits ever sell on an open market, be it myspace, slashdot, or whatever else.
mircea_popescu: all these "valuable properties" of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853182 ilk, "online real estate" etc.
mircea_popescu: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+%22mircea+popescu%22&t=ffsb&iax=images&ia=images << in other lulz, i fucking love the results. a buncha dorks and a buncha sluts, what more can you ask for.
asciilifeform: would like to , 1st, give the znc people a chance to sit down on rk, if they can be aroused to.
mod6: kinda typical actually. car makes bad sound while driving it for weeks, when you bring it to the mechanic and explain the sound, he drives it, no sound.
asciilifeform: mod6: my current hypothesis is that it'll fall down again when raid walk.
asciilifeform: i can't picture why, even, unless these people baked it from ecl or sumthing
asciilifeform: mod6: sadly not weird, these run ridiculously hot
mod6: Thanks for the update asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty for the temp update
asciilifeform: still waitin' to hear from the znc-on-uy1 people, whether any want a rk acct.
asciilifeform: meanwhile uy1 cpu at 52C, raid card at 63 (for the latter, 'critical' mark is 70)
hanbot: * shinohai has quit (Quit: No, I do not belong to The Most Delusional Republic) << the amusing part being that it'd seem that's the only republic you -do- belong to.
mod6: Another loooong day today.
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/01/perambulating-mp-pretense-vs-pretense/ << The Whet -- Perambulating MP: Pretense vs. Pretense
shinohai: lmao forgot I had put that there when kakobrekla kept asking why I wasn't over in tmdr xD
mircea_popescu: * shinohai has quit (Quit: No, I do not belong to The Most Delusional Republic)
mircea_popescu: as opposed to my buying cookies to give girly so she takes her clothes off.
mircea_popescu: vapor pressure, rite. if you hang for piracy as well as highway robbery (1/100 the capital goods costs) competent females will be found in piracy not in highway robbery, because female vapor pressure ~0.
asciilifeform: iirc there may have been sea pirate female, but dunno how credible the reports.
mircea_popescu: sure. what, the point was to ensure "no highwaymen" ? the point was to ensure ~no highwaywomen~. and that -- fucking ensured, no taming-of-the-shrew era shrew, howsoever "empowered" etcetera, dared highway.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it aint as if there were no highwaymen back when marchlord
BingoBoingo: Hey, the amount of old woman wailing over their pobre angelitos dying is increasing as the angelitos in question get shot breaking into a man's residence/place of business
BingoBoingo: They preferred 2009's homeostasis to 2019's but...
BingoBoingo: They want homeostatsis
BingoBoingo: Pretty much. They just don't care.
mircea_popescu: "This last paranthesis also explains why crime fightin' is never a "the people" affair, in case you're curious. It's not some sort of evil conspiracy to keep "the citizens" ("the people" call themselves that when unsure of their footing) from exercising "justice". It's just that practically, left to their own devices, "the people" couldn't care less." or how did that go.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news: Free Bicycles available on the Rambla as a matter of Penal Policy http://archive.is/o6y2V
BingoBoingo: If he's pale enough the Saudis or Qataris might take him
mircea_popescu: yeah, there's such demand for middle aged males on that market.
mircea_popescu: seems rather the work of coincidence.
mircea_popescu: where he'd be doing exactly the same, plus/minus one red stapler ?
mircea_popescu: you understand this, yes, there's gotta be something there to surrender, you can't surrender bare swamp.
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, locklin fits very well in the impudent imbecile gallery, with yarvin, yukowsky and whatall else, 70s to 90s born fleshwastes.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ftr, the samsung ssds are pretty good : i have identical card here, with identical drives, in 3.5yrs of 24/7 operation it corrected a misparitied block ~once~
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 14:07 asciilifeform: incidentally : raid verify is set for midnight saturday. which iirc was the time of the first reset.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm thinking to switch off the raid auto-walk ( http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887553 ) currently, and set it going manually during a maintenance window that we'll announce after folx are seated on the rk.
asciilifeform: ( and yep it's the defrocked physics d00d from old thread )
mircea_popescu: heh, usg basically cannibalizing its foreign service. not being able to defend allies is one thing, but who the fuck is ever going to deal with them again.
asciilifeform: there's ~2 ~indistinguishable 'alternatives' to errything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall, it's the magick land of 'which can of pepsi wouldja like, left or right'
a111: Logged on 2015-09-03 01:38 asciilifeform: e.g. there is no 'i don't care if the chicken ate gmo corn but please no antibiotic' shop
a111: Logged on 2016-02-15 17:58 asciilifeform: specifically how there is no place in usa where one can 'i will pay double for non-monsanto but i don't give a fuck about 'gmo' and i sure as fuck don't want to see homeopathic crud in the shop'
mircea_popescu: the empire of idiots manages to construct two ~equally idiotic non-alternatives out of everything.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 18:02 asciilifeform: trinque: iirc in usa you get to pick b/w 'vaccine is the devil's work' and 'load'im up on errything, incl. some radwaste for good measure'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887877 << this is very much the case ; muchly reminiscent re your point of "why can't i buy just the sanity of vegan" or somesuch.
trinque: saw the mcd's and "aw fuck, it's got spores"
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:53 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Starbucks is not classy anymore. It is the low rent knockoff version of McCafe now
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:51 trinque: if they had more money, that mcds would sprout a whole suburb of them around it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887855 << occured already, the heredia-alajuela banzone is entirely this.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:40 trinque: I take these to be the people that shouldn't have houses having been given too much, not *their* decay. they're doing better than they've ever been.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887832 << there's some meat on this skeleton, recall chucka burning down sovok wood flooring to make cookpot go
asciilifeform: ... is it also 'hoped' that he'll 'rent out the space in his nostrils' lol
BingoBoingo: Here we have an elusive creature. A property offered for rent with hope the person renting it will subdivide it into smaller rentals: http://archive.is/GAXEp
BingoBoingo: The mumps outbreak of similar character to US University mumps outbreaks.
BingoBoingo: The standard for a pension or residencia estudiantil is 1.5-5 bed lengths deep and 3-5 bed widths wide. But unlike apartments they tend to come furnished. With "placares" even.
asciilifeform: trinque: even in BingoBoingostan , asciilifeform had a hell of a time drinking from 'the mumps cup' to the terrified faces of onlookers
asciilifeform: Mocky: how did the work search go ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes prolly has the details.
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc in usa you get to pick b/w 'vaccine is the devil's work' and 'load'im up on errything, incl. some radwaste for good measure'
trinque: in related cardboardization, the girl and I were looking into live vaccines for hypothetical spawn. apparently they're being phased out by the derps that be.
BingoBoingo: More bottom of the market favela finds http://archive.is/T2QsT http://archive.is/npB22 From here the next step down includes improvised shelters, refrigerator boxes, and actual holes in exterior walls.
asciilifeform: interestingly, they're building a tram (!) also. apparently the last lizards who disassembled the original washintonistani trams in 1970s, have finally croaked. ( new tram, however, will go strictly to/from the communal flats and the bureaucratic shitholes where 'employed' )
asciilifeform: but good % of the folx signing the leases, are graduates
BingoBoingo: AHA, like the Peruana's pension tucked behind a kiosko!
asciilifeform: trinque: the 'next turn of the screw' appears to be... american ver. of sovok 'communal flats'. they're building'em here, near university, to the exclusion of near errything else
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> trinque: they're living in cardboard, iirc. new construction in specially-designated reservations. << AHA, Carrasco where the stores have parking lots! Just like US suburbs!
trinque: right, so economics alone are keeping them from the wasp nest neighborhoods, which is my point.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Starbucks is not classy anymore. It is the low rent knockoff version of McCafe now
asciilifeform: trinque: they're living in cardboard, iirc. new construction in specially-designated reservations.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Here the culture views McDonalds as classy.
trinque: I hear hipsters are doing this in detroit these days, not even all getting killed by the natives
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: may recall, at one time asciilifeform was infected with crackpot idea, 'why not buy old stone thing in bmore'. actually went on site, talked to the orcs. concluded that proj was massively -ev, couldnt afford to defend properly.
trinque: if they had more money, that mcds would sprout a whole suburb of them around it.
trinque: if they had it, would buy. same reason as when I was in CR there was a huge line of natives for the mcd's and starbucks
asciilifeform: they find, somehow , cement mixer, somewhere.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: observe how even to the poorest orcs, it dun occur to build dwelling from cardboards
asciilifeform: in ro the shoemaker did similar thing, mircea_popescu described in detail
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I wager the uruguayan suburbs are favela-tier << Favelas with a lot of concrete
asciilifeform: trinque: tbf i did not go to the favela. but inside the city walls, the worst dwellings were approx baltimore-type.
trinque: where the american burbs oughta be.
trinque: I wager the uruguayan suburbs are favela-tier
asciilifeform: trinque: there's rich folx living in old rocket shafts in nebraska even.
trinque: I take these to be the people that shouldn't have houses having been given too much, not *their* decay. they're doing better than they've ever been.
asciilifeform: with the brickwork forming bonus shrapnel.
asciilifeform: trinque: they scatter like pinyata.
trinque: asciilifeform: was hilarious when harvey came through and ripped these brick facades off the suburban wasp nests
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:31 asciilifeform: i've confronted various (nominally literate) ameri-folx with the brick litmus, was surprised at one pt how many had nfi
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887824 << yet you persist believing such a thing as a schoolbook is available to them.
shinohai: it appears homes were slightly better constructed there BingoBoingo ... most "factory worker houses" in smaller towns here are old duplexes, with asbestos siding no less.
asciilifeform: i've confronted various (nominally literate) ameri-folx with the brick litmus, was surprised at one pt how many had nfi
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 17:04 asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc they already build this : for 'supermax' prison. but i expect the tech will 'spread to konsoomer', yes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we have these here; typically the brickwork is decorative
asciilifeform: i'ma leave the item in, tho, if mircea_popescu thinks it's a + idea
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:59 asciilifeform: unrelatedly ( or maybe not?? ) , asciilifeform found that ch16 is turning into just about a miniature number theory schoolbook, will defo have to be trimmed
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:48 hanbot: <asciilifeform> i'm surprised they dun build from ~that~ yet. << i met a chick from the architecture dept at the nat'l uni here whose professed goal was to see all places with native bamboo build with it exclusively. possibly the spiders get her first, but otherwise, "coming soon"...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i haven't been to his house, lol, so cannot attest to the troof/disinfo.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't believe a single thing pr claims about buffett, seeing how that's the customary treatment for proven liars.
mircea_popescu: because so spake the goddess or some dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: riiight, cuz "organizing labour" in the sense of http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain/ is perfectly possible but organizing purchasing in the sense of killing the fucking degradation of life and every niggled standing in the way is perfectly impossible.
asciilifeform: i suppose it's still possible, even in usa, to buy lands far away from city, getting out of 'zoning law', and import white marble from italy and build castle. if yer rockefeller. i dun know rockefeller tho, so i've never set foot in 1 of these and have nfi re what specifically is involved.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: there's maybe half a mil of these on whole continent, and nobody's building any moar of'em << My hometown has large swaths of brick single family homes built to house workers for now defunct "my pet goat" condensed milk plant.
asciilifeform: the judging does exactly 0, 'lemon market'.
mircea_popescu: if they abdicate from this, and "just want to", they belong rowing galley.
mircea_popescu: there's no possibility of economic activity outside of human buyer judging things
mircea_popescu: as they fucking should.
asciilifeform: betcha the 'lucky' buyers still owe their 800k.
shinohai: There was "subdivision" of new constructed homes nearby that had to be abandoned ~3 yrs ago, all were built using sheetrock from China which molded within weeks of being installed.
asciilifeform: shinohai: there's maybe half a mil of these on whole continent, and nobody's building any moar of'em
asciilifeform: shinohai: i fully expect that they ~will~ find how to make the hovels even moar starvation-cheap, whether cement or inkjetted styrofoam or whatnot. and the same folx who pocket 800k nao, will pocket the 1mil they'll mandatorily sell for.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last i knew , most of said graduates nowadays , get to take their arse, and its 250k of debt, to work in bureaucracy.
asciilifeform: the '800s' have 0 to do with the cost of the junk they build from.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 02:36 asciilifeform: it's hilarious, the hovel i'm in, at least has steel frames. nearby they recently built whole street of 100% cardboard/plastic , 'ONLY low 800s!' reads the billboard. 800k orcbux, that is.
asciilifeform: shinohai: the typical wooden hovel folx live inside in usa, costs maybe 1000 in cardboard/presswood. sheep still get sheared via http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887539 .
asciilifeform: eh cement is the 1 kind of factory they still have errywhere in usa
BingoBoingo: There's still the problem of making all that ferrocement
asciilifeform: i expect it'll work in the 'self driving car'(tm) direction instead. 'drm' door locks itself, house now == jail
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: presumably with those demolition charges they already issue'em..
BingoBoingo: The US isn't Uruguay. The US can't afford to make ferrocement the residential building material. How will the police break in?
asciilifeform: shinohai: iirc they already build this : for 'supermax' prison. but i expect the tech will 'spread to konsoomer', yes
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: recall how edison was genuinely convinced that the fyootoor of furniture was... ferrocement << Plenty of people here living the complete ferrocement like without the roof.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. They'll also wank over what kinds of traps. Gotta deal with USG and local conservation police... Gotta plan your havest anticipating how many of what kinds of critters are going to find their way into your traps
asciilifeform: shinohai: recall how edison was genuinely convinced that the fyootoor of furniture was... ferrocement
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 15:53 asciilifeform: i'm surprised they dun build from ~that~ yet.
BingoBoingo: The fur apparently has some marketable value, but like other things in empire... there is a mess of rules
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 18:36 asciilifeform: ( readers should also prepare themselves for following proof of why m-r worx, i'ma not simply cite the lit )
asciilifeform: unrelatedly ( or maybe not?? ) , asciilifeform found that ch16 is turning into just about a miniature number theory schoolbook, will defo have to be trimmed
asciilifeform: hanbot: supposedly they can. i wouldn't undertake tho
hanbot: pity these can't be trained
asciilifeform: recently i found that 1 of the trapped ones chewed most of the way through wooden '2x4' plank.
asciilifeform: the ultimate mouth.
asciilifeform: these will eat moar or less anyffin. even drywall.
hanbot: oh hey i missed that one. yet another reason for pet koala.
asciilifeform: y'know, where you pin the lucky customer to four stakes, and by next day bamboo grows out of him
asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform lived in a block of flat surrounded by bamboo, and would see the shoots erry morning, growing straight from gravel. invariably thought of that old chinese punishment
hanbot: <asciilifeform> i'm surprised they dun build from ~that~ yet. << i met a chick from the architecture dept at the nat'l uni here whose professed goal was to see all places with native bamboo build with it exclusively. possibly the spiders get her first, but otherwise, "coming soon"...
BingoBoingo: I know few lawschool graduates working for firm. A bunch working for local prosecutor or public defender, occasional ventures into private practice. THe one who got a "firm" job left it to do a stint managing East Saint Louis City government.
asciilifeform: iirc the 'law schools' were actually sued, for making concrete claims of employability of graduate, and ~lost~, but somehow this was magicked away.
asciilifeform: typical, as i understand, path, for these people.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, those are just the LUCKY ones.
asciilifeform: where they start at the 50k/y (pre-tax!) rank.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last i knew , most of said graduates nowadays , get to take their arse, and its 250k of debt, to work in bureaucracy.
BingoBoingo: IIrc the lawyering profession in the US isn't employing law school graduates anymore because what's the point of having ambitious interns if they are afraid to fuck them
mircea_popescu: what's the idea, nobody ever fucked an ambitious intern, can't imagine what "law firms" are like ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc mircea_popescu posted the perl script that shits these at one pt
mircea_popescu: perhaps intuitively this is very much related (in the sense of descending from) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1880251
BingoBoingo: In things that popped up in the spam hoppers: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pSMtK/?raw=true
asciilifeform: correct. and the opera replayed itself in miniature in the 'killermicro warz'
mircea_popescu: in the end, the result of war is a perverse "cheapest man wins".
asciilifeform: only writhed longer.
asciilifeform: them also.
mircea_popescu: except for the soviets, the chinese...
mircea_popescu: the winner of cockroach war was... cockroach union.
mircea_popescu: unbest for japan, they had very much sparta problem -- dead japanese not replaceable through usual process
mircea_popescu: not so clear why best, killed operator half the time
mircea_popescu: specific example of why i say war is fun -- not only losses don't count, but their replenishment consists of fucking a buncha women, whether they want to or not.
asciilifeform: to take the extreme end of the stick : the best antitank weapon of whole war, was... japan's
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ought not to neglect the (explicit) driver of sov-style tech design : 'Солдат не жалеть, бабы еще нарожают!' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform war is specifically this arrangement where you don't count the losses. who's gonna fine the victor for his more expensive tanks in terms of "wildlife-variety" ?
mircea_popescu: no WONDER they couldn't make the shit fast enough.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, because the t-34 cost 18 units and provided 6.5 to 30 or so sovheads while tiger cost 77 units and provided .1 to 24 naziheads, we can resolve the matter : 18 for 195 vs 77 for 2.4
asciilifeform: in re the computational spaceheater wars -- the loss tally from 'overflowable arrays' is still a-runnin'.
asciilifeform: gotta count the losses as well as the gains tho.
asciilifeform: the q of 'which machine spiffier' aint even meaningful outside of this frame
mircea_popescu: THIS is what matters. the per capita productivity gain from capital investment.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the problem in terms of "1 tiger is said to have been match for 2-3 t-34" is already misstated. the point is : marginal war gain per german soldier from tiger was like .1, marginal war gain per soviet soldier from t-34 was like 6.5
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 00:44 mircea_popescu: ~if~ those people were smart enough to build the item you describe, the ~reasonable expectation~ is they'd have been smart enough to behave ~muchly variant~ from the ~actual way they behaved~ in fields much easier to observe.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 19:31 mircea_popescu: phf i expect the accumulated value of the whole pile of "secrets" is about 0. and i further expect the entire value of the whole bolix stack neatly approximates the value of my stock of pogos.
mircea_popescu: this then illustrates a principal line that constructs my http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881924 ; to go with other main http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-20#1882318 and i think there;s maybe 2 or 3 more and that's it.
asciilifeform: the especially lulzy aspect of the finale, is that germans themselves invented the faustpatrone , the very same item that makes tank such a limited worth item today
asciilifeform: ( and, recall, the match ended when germany ran out of petrol, rather than tank )
asciilifeform: 1 tiger is said to have been match for 2-3 34. problem for germans is that they brought 5,6 per.
asciilifeform: interestingly from the light of the 'tiger is a bolix' narrative, it was a quite close match despite the overengineer.
asciilifeform: so much so that in the ukr wars a couple were taken down from monuments, and made to run.
mircea_popescu: turns out the correct cut lay so close to "don't bother", russki not-even-replaceable-parts accidental constructs were closer than the finely zeiss'd german items
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff the lesson was obvious to... hannibal ( who had 'meat tank' )
asciilifeform: ( with mechanical object these tend to coincide )
mircea_popescu: of course, in fairness, there's some hidden lulz in there : turns out tank ~seems~ perfect assault weapon, but ~in fact~ is perfect infantry support weapon. which is why t-34 won over both kv and tiger ; and why the best use of tanks came from north africa, where there being no "armored positions to storm", tanks could be used correctly (if uncomprehendingly) by the germans too.
asciilifeform: there's a second half to that parable tho. which is that german tank/mg/various were not only expensive, but complex.
mircea_popescu: they made it too big, overengineered, "what if i was the last man and this was the last tank" otherwordly consideration.
asciilifeform: this is actually the traditional narrative re 'tiger'
asciilifeform: gilding the lily ?
mircea_popescu: germans did to platonic tank the wrong thing that you like doing.
mircea_popescu: i have an alternate theory, but im not sure you wanna hear it.
asciilifeform: there's 'national colour' to certain designs, e.g. the israelis really like flat, squat tanks for some reason
mircea_popescu: hehe, you did ~the reverse~. you looked at item that looked like the item has to look and went "well, russki is like item does", not "item is like russki does"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the sense that drafted in moscow, built in petrozavodsk or wherever, maintained by ru conscripts under whip
mircea_popescu: in what sense was btr russian ? there's only so many ways you can do armored vehicle.
asciilifeform: my fave is the 1 with kalash
mircea_popescu: in the sense of flying their colorful if meaningless flags.
mircea_popescu: well at least to do the maintenance.
asciilifeform: so in what sense were they african.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 13:07 asciilifeform: largely because of the 'don't clean the air filter' tale mircea_popescu told asciilifeform et al on the shore in buenos aires
mircea_popescu: machinery. like africa died in the 90s.
asciilifeform: well what else kind of death could it've been -- there wasn't a foreign invasion in '80s
a111: Logged on 2019-01-08 18:06 asciilifeform: ( and for all i know, ro actually involved moar 'turkeydollar', as by mircea_popescu's and other accts was 'tighter ship' )
mircea_popescu: (your http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-08#1885908 courtly comment, which is factually untrue -- ru 5-6x the headcount, sparked some investigation that turned up a buncha lulz like that. turns out mid 80s soviet was INCREDIBLY weak and complacent, for some fucking reason.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other lulz : in 80s ro was actually making the btr-80 for east germany export. because russkis found it cheaper to license than to manufacture, and the ro had stolen it already anyway.
mircea_popescu: should be at least 7-8x, considering what "redundancy" means and how heavy the shit is.
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty sweet item, except for one point : its twin engines together less power than bartholomew.
asciilifeform: ( https://archive.is/r3VwB << whole lyrics, for the aficionado, traditional )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. tech transferred for i don't recall what economic deal in the 70s
mircea_popescu: you know ? maybe the girls recount sometime that night i nearly drove through a washed out road.
asciilifeform: loox ideal for the terrain pictured in mircea_popescu's phototours
mircea_popescu: i was really contemplating getting the car jacked on those APC tyres they had back in soviet days.
mircea_popescu: you should question the fabled quality of costa rican road.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu makes me question the fabled indestructibility of german auto!11
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have the converse problem. alternator dies on road, /me takes car back to (otherwise very competent, and very able) independent mechanic who charged 75 an hour for tools and labour to find what needs changing and then install mp's parts (75 CENTS!!!). "why the fuck was not this on the bill ?" "ah, it wasn't really broken yet, still hung on a thread".
BingoBoingo: If you're replacing the sill plate might as well raise the concrete foundation so the sill sits further from gound level and all of a sudden the concrete cabin out in Cerro start to look like a good alternative.
asciilifeform: this reminds asciilifeform of that 1 time he went to 'dealership' ( the takata recall, phree new grenad^H^H^Hbags ) . they bring what looks like bill. a : 'waitasec, 10k?! whole bucket not worth 5' monkey:'SUGGESTED repairs'
mircea_popescu: except apparently gypsies don't grow fast enough for the us, notwithstanding they marry the girls once they bleed. so the locals build out of pine and then charge to fix it.
BingoBoingo: And once they drop the house back down with new wood at best it has another 20 years before someone shanks the sill plate again.
mircea_popescu: this reminds me of how gypsy teams "fix cheaply the roof" in the old country.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, once the house gets jacked they are going to find more problems where the water wicked up from the sill plate.
mircea_popescu: and yes mod6 is the mark of all time, always ready to pay for such a superficial and self-evident scam. cuz he's a well bred midwestern man whom you can't help but love (notwithstanding the cockroaches can't help but fleece).
mircea_popescu: ra new york is organized around strong-arming and then charging "for protection" the independent moron, aka hayseed immigrant.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but yes, i guess if you put it out there i have no choice but to spell it out : of ~fucking course~ the carpenter "sticks his file in there". it's a sales gimmick, like the new york electrician pointing out to people they gotta pay him a billion to "bring the buildingto spec" because "otherwise he has to report them" because "otherwise he loses his own license". because we're supposed to not notice the whole mob-e
asciilifeform: i'm surprised they dun build from ~that~ yet.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Pine grows fast and is therefore 'cheap'
mircea_popescu: who the fuck builds out of pine.
BingoBoingo: Ah, 32 then
BingoBoingo: Ah, 36 then
asciilifeform: it's 1 of 9000 items that could use a fire lit under the vendor's arse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's exactly 1 (iron, vs 'winmodem') raid card maker, so it's a 'best horse from glue factory'. has been like this for 20y.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 09:21 jurov has some particle board ceilings on otherwise brick house. it's so incredibly shitty material - when bolted small light LED lamps on it, one fell out later :/
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887550 << You want the kind of expanding anchor that mushrooms into a giant claw on the other side. I don't know what they are called here yet, but in old country "Molly bolt" was the term.
BingoBoingo: The only reason mod6's sill plate problem is exceptional is someone looked at his sill plate. In USistan most people don't know they have the sill plate problem because they never look.

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