mircea_popescu: they ~don't mean to be~ dangerous, of course. they really meant everything to be the tits, really.
mircea_popescu: and to briefly revisit discussion : people who aim to tell a story ~qua story~ rather than qua reality ARE DANGEROUS. very, very fucking dangerous, and ~they know this, too~ (or otherwise, one's hard pressed to explain why they come up with inane "really, the other guy is dangerous, promise" bullshit aka http://trilema.com/2014/the-definitive-tract-on-sociopathy/ -- especially seeing how that's their amply documented and well
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 23:10 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890969 << was karatism ultra-popular in '80s ro, like in late sovok ? ( there, was ubiquitous, esp. on acct of being Officially verboten )
mircea_popescu: yes, it "permits", in the sense that it wasn't designed with a view of the amateur politician's needs in mind, and so their hamhandedness incidentally self-crits.
asciilifeform: ( if you dun 'pong' < t after 'ping'-ed, they drop )
asciilifeform: the lulzprotocol actually permits this
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is this supposed to work, seriously now, "hello sir we can't hear you sorry"
asciilifeform: 1 of the 1st things asciilifeform remembers reading as a larva , is a street poster advertising 1 of those underground dojos
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 20:03 mircea_popescu: so the year's sometime in the golden 90s, and some super-duper karate trainer guy who happens to also be a friend of the family is visiting.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890969 << was karatism ultra-popular in '80s ro, like in late sovok ? ( there, was ubiquitous, esp. on acct of being Officially verboten )
asciilifeform: lol asciilifeform misread, was just about to ask how one prepares a capybara an' how was the meat
nicoleci: yeah me either, we should change this. i wonder if mircea_popescu's scope of pretentiousness reaches tasting a fine capybara
BingoBoingo: And the locals shot a second police officer this week. Monday's in Villa Española. This one in La Blanqueda.
BingoBoingo: I can't speak as to the taste of capybara
nicoleci: haha, then next a capybara
BingoBoingo: Cavia porcellus for the uninitiated
nicoleci: should be a fun demonstration for everyone at the store
mircea_popescu: aite, ima add a cleaver to the list.
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, fetlife never disappoints. the best part of it is how he gave an explanation on why he thought that for a whole second and posted the comment
mircea_popescu: that's for sure. though THAT only comes into its own when i sit here typing and bulk up while the girls are (even now!) at the gym and... nothin' doin'.
mircea_popescu: my point is that the behavioural separation is visible rather before secondary sexual characteristics.
diana_coman: ehm, from personal experience I can tell you that precisely at that age there is basically a massive handicap all of a sudden; and quite visible too
mircea_popescu: but, for some reason (which i suspect -- only in part cultural, and besides, why would a girl believe her mother) they tend to not want to earnestly try.
mircea_popescu: well, which brings us full circle : girls seemed to prefer that way rather than this, notwithstanding that they ~could~ have earned a decent spot on the rooster if earnestly tried.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, it's basically those who really cared to vs those who really did NOT care to, will always be able to; uhm? the whole thing was those who really cared to vs those who really cared to, otherwise not much sense imo
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 19:37 mircea_popescu: anyway, the amateur behaviour is actually not unknown among children. now and again you see some kid (esp one that's not usually violent) FURIOUS to the point of rabid because some other kid "cheated", ie, did something the universe supported but the kid's mind did not.
a111: 0 results for "\"jump in the well\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22jump%20in%20the%20well%22
mircea_popescu: !#s "jump in the well"
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 19:40 mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890962 << hey how does one say 'взять на слабо' in ro ? ( trad. method of 1 boy getting another to do something foolish, 'hey betcha yer too weak to X!' )
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how she found the room for such kicking, but, the fact remains -- very much ~could~, a good half of all males are not worth the chickenfeed.
mircea_popescu: chick slid her ass to the side and cracked him one shoe square in the forehead, after he grabed her ass.
mircea_popescu: and then JUST as i turn to grab the dood by the scruff of his neck and see who the fuck this is then, what, am i talking to myself here ?!
mircea_popescu: clubs in the 90s were TIGHT.
mircea_popescu: so we go to the club, because what can you do ?
mircea_popescu: so the year's sometime in the golden 90s, and some super-duper karate trainer guy who happens to also be a friend of the family is visiting.
mircea_popescu: actually, if they at all cared to... here, let me recount an anecdote.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman entirely possibru! though the ~average~ girl is still no match for the lower placed boys. so i wouldn't call it "can't" properly speaking.
mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!"
diana_coman: you mean: at/after puberty, girls can't quite beat the shit out boys anymore and therefore they stop fighting them directly; lol
mircea_popescu: the distinction generally matches their gender, too. girls tend to end up in the amateur-player groups. not so much climbing and activities with sticks that are wont to show one how inadequate human life is in a contest with sheer reality ;
mircea_popescu: at about the age of 10-11 or so, children, that were previously quite happy to play together, separate very visibly into pro-player and amateur-player groups.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the amateur behaviour is actually not unknown among children. now and again you see some kid (esp one that's not usually violent) FURIOUS to the point of rabid because some other kid "cheated", ie, did something the universe supported but the kid's mind did not.
mircea_popescu: some guy who can't spell, because cotsnaltny doign htis, is you know, merely dyslexic. if they ALSO can't tie their own shoes... well...
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the amateur, as a category, is very much a 19th century late-protestantism invention, along with such greats as "altruism" etcetera. they have little anchoring in reality, being as they are the waste byproducts of a specific stage of industrial society.
diana_coman: uhm, maybe this particular love-mistake is so significant in practice to really make the distinction that no, they are not retarded, they are just ...dunno, love-seeking? and anyway then...why is this not just retarded as well?
mircea_popescu: from reviewing my past practice, i suspect i'd call them "retarded".
diana_coman: really? so what, if you notice an amateur making at some point ALSO a childish mistake then...it's not an amateur anymore?
mircea_popescu: making jesus (not as either the historical character or the pre-1800s various layers of reported historical character) the elliot of amateurs.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 16:45 mircea_popescu: in other notes to the self, I was recently looking desperately for that discussion of the static/dynamic infantile error, but gave up in frustration. neverhteless, here it is : http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-221.55-225.273
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 21:21 mircea_popescu: "the notion that airplanes could reproduce through laying eggs is merely a naive extension, in the vein of 'object A has properties a and b ; object B shares property a and therefore it is reasonable ~~~on a first approximation~~~ to expect it exhibit proerty b'. nevertheless, artifacts differ from nature in that one fundamental aspect, that they're inefficient, and therefore to achieve same ends end up heavy, and in the case
mircea_popescu: children routinely make all sorts of mistakes, chief among which the naive extension (ie http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877543 ) and dynamic-static confusion ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756978 )
mircea_popescu: diana_coman note that the class of childish notion's wider than the class of amateur tropes.
mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily kid if i call my car carsy either.
diana_coman: to my mind all children ARE childish, what else; but in their case that's just by definition basically, they can't be something else, not an issue
Mocky: well child-like is not the term, but I do think childish only applies to adults. calling a child childish would be in jest
diana_coman: hm, so amateur is the childish use of adult brain capacity i.e. a mismatch essentially?
a111: Logged on 2014-02-10 01:34 mircea_popescu: people can want in one hand and piss in the other, see which fills first.
mircea_popescu: whereas the substance of thought does not move into adulthood, rendering the subject incapable to rightly apprehend the world,
mircea_popescu: i mean if the part of the brain that handles the mechanics of thought moves into adulthood, rendering the subject capable of articulating longer strings and remembering them,
mircea_popescu: ie, yes, jenkins sings to carnegie hall, koch cryptograpies to the conference plastic carpet, some kids in egypt http://trilema.com/2011/bine-ati-venit-la-noi-in-tara/#selection-177.0-177.14 and so following.
diana_coman: the world/whatever he does is his Mummy -> child
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, what's the difference between this "amateur" and "childish"?
mircea_popescu: tbh, the carnegie hall may be a fine example -- florence jenkins played in what ~everone deemed a "how cute, they made copy out of hut!" item.
mircea_popescu: well, classification is classification ; the meaning of words flow from reason not from some sort of consideration of political expediency
asciilifeform: koch et al, 'play in carnegie hall', like the infamous florence foster jenkins
asciilifeform: re the trombonists -- if they're playing in designated padded room, who the hell cares .
mircea_popescu: (to briefly revisit the dilettante issue : the other problem is that dilettante delights in ~consuming the end product~, ie, listening to music. the amateur trombonist and the dilettante jazzist may be a match made in heaven, however, they're not the same thing -- much like the narcissist and his borderline-sleeve gf aren't.)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (and conversely, all the "but i would treat her right and have great sense of humor" non-"asshole" lament, very much this "whay amateur fails!") << Also why amateur doesn't have girl dancing in kitchen with knife and garlic while sitting at terminal
asciilifeform: e you wouldn't come to me with a sick dog because of it, but that's the way many people approach programmers.'
asciilifeform: 'tell you what. I receive some cast-away meat from dissections at my nearby veterinary school, and I have absolutely no problem with filling my fridge with dead animal parts. I enjoy studying the interior design of animals while I feed my cat with the meat. if you wade through my garbage, you'd find whole ribs, an assortment of bones, lots of animal skin, an occasional hoof, and a large number of used scalpel blades. I really hop
mircea_popescu: (and conversely, all the "but i would treat her right and have great sense of humor" non-"asshole" lament, very much this "whay amateur fails!")
BingoBoingo: The only problem with amateurs is when their efforts get taken seriously and their pursuit out of love makes a mess for everyone trying to do because they need/want good things: http://trilema.com/2013/why-you-cant-invest-with-cryptostocks/
mircea_popescu: (anyway, the distinction is spurious, dilettante is LITERALLY italian for "amateur", comes from the same root as gave delight in english)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is that in my head dilettante would be one still getting his footing (ie, who has not yet touched all the elements of the field)
mircea_popescu: all the fucking scenesters, amateur bdsm folk, have this in common with the pedo and the neurotic-impotent : that they're trying to re-enact.
mircea_popescu: there IS, incidentally, a very marked difference between amateur and serious fuckers, as teh womenz will attest. because the amateur fucker... http://trilema.com/2011/voi-puneti-fetele-sa-zica-ceva/ aka makes you call him "daddy" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and i'm not an amateur fucker, either!
asciilifeform: where he 'i relax doing this cuz the result dun matter to anyone else'
mircea_popescu: ie, that line is intended to show that the alternative understanding of the term is inconsistent.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 18:35 mircea_popescu: consider though -- am i an AMATEUR writer ? and who's a professional, everyone on the nytimes list ? really ?
mircea_popescu: Mocky there's no transitiveness. how can you be an amateur ~at X~ ?
asciilifeform: body is as 'broken' as anyffin gets, yet there is still such a thing as pro surgeon
mircea_popescu: hence "amateur mistakes" -- mistakes apt to be produced by one who acts as if the world/item/tool/whatever IS HIS MOTHER
mircea_popescu: "when i discovered the universe was artificial i withdrew into amateurship, because you can't commit to following a universe that's broken"
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 19:27 asciilifeform: ( didn't particularly relish memorizing chess debuts, either )
asciilifeform: ( the 'pro' players are entirely diff social circle, tho, and not merely because they live on winnings. they're more or less grown from age 5 to do the thing )
Mocky: the proposed meaning describes a mindset or attitude only, with no consideration of actual ability
mircea_popescu: and the theory also readily mops up ye olde http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22coffin%22+%22liner%22 problem : senescence can collapse one back into amateurship!
asciilifeform: in the (possibly surprisingly, to some) not yet dead world of go, there exists such a thing as '9-dan amateur', who can sometimes win against (lower ranked) pro
mircea_popescu: and i also dispute there's any requirement of ~expertise~ for ~professionalism~. utter fucking bullshit of the confused and the definitionless, trying to buy one thing with the other and back again circularly because that's all they got.
mircea_popescu: my slaves cook. nobody pays them (of course, there's the http://trilema.com/2018/have-you-ever-paid-for-sex/#selection-35.137-39.757 problem to confound things). all sorta deepfry "cooks" hundred or ten thousand mile radius around you right now, paid to cook. do they ?
asciilifeform: in a certain old sov children's cartoon there was a crocodile character who , when asked what is his profession, would answer 'i work as myself, there in the zoo'
mircea_popescu: i suppose stalin the definitive amateur, iirc never paid.
mircea_popescu: consider though -- am i an AMATEUR writer ? and who's a professional, everyone on the nytimes list ? really ?
asciilifeform: i'm beginning to suspect that mircea_popescu is the last living troo subscriber of s. freud
mircea_popescu: if kasparov plays to win -- pro ; if kasparov plays to feel good about himself -- amateur. money dun enter into it, and proximity to other people entirely spurious socialism tendril.
mircea_popescu: everyone has a conception of "how world should be", constructed essentially out of Mother in the positive and some "expectations" from personal history.
mircea_popescu: you fly looking either in or out. if you fly looking out -- pro. if you fly looking in -- amateur.
mircea_popescu: if i take a seat next to you in your car, the large cost is my sitting, the small cost is the money.
asciilifeform vaguely suspects that 'potato jizzus' is moar famous , sadly, than the orig painting nao
mircea_popescu: various mammies crowding the us congress building -- amateur Mothers of Their Country
mircea_popescu: the woman that fixed the antique jesus picture was amateur reconditioner of old frescoes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quackery is the particular word for amateur medicine. high time for amateur engineering to get a specific word too, but not the end of ther world to wait for it.
mircea_popescu: they "help people fight cancer"
mircea_popescu: koch application of fermat DIRECTLY maps on the above "random definition".
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, amateur is one who expects the world to "play nice" in whatever random definition he comes up with because daddy had the common fucking decency to not rape 'em while they were growing up, SO THEREFORE!!!
asciilifeform: imho 'charlatan' is perfectly adequate description of ~these~
mircea_popescu: it seems to be the older definition, but it's fucking meaningless.
mircea_popescu: (i think it makes a rather subtle point, so discussion particularly welcome)
mircea_popescu: and in updates : http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/#selection-43.0-73.1
asciilifeform: ( can use card from the dead unit )
asciilifeform: for the new rk.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when you're there, plox to stuff a new disk into dulap so i can breathe life into it
BingoBoingo: I am planning to emplace the new Rockchip tomorrow. No downtime is planned, but removing the old and placing the new is going to take some dexterity.
asciilifeform: in other noose, hats off to BingoBoingo's orccraft, <6day from asciilifeform ordering rk to BingoBoingo uncrating !
asciilifeform: in other lullies, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=miller+rabin+constant+time << seems like we're the only folx who ever showed detectable symptom of giving a shit..
asciilifeform: the aviation engine folx -- tried.
asciilifeform: building sumthing like today's motor , in the last reich, would be 'clockmaker' job ( hand-polish the parts to tolerance ? ), and defo nonstarter at scale, yea
a111: Logged on 2019-01-16 16:05 mircea_popescu: it's a pretty sweet item, except for one point : its twin engines together less power than bartholomew.
asciilifeform: the krauts weren't exactly drowning in cheap petrol tho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do wonder if the bmw monster's 300 horse, would actually make any useful diff in mud road, vs. the classic zundapp's 10
Mocky: yes those are the hand levers can curved plates
asciilifeform: to the point that 1st time i saw one on actual street, sans mg34, felt 'wrong'
mircea_popescu: a man ~fired~ that thing while being driven around. and some exceptional teams even arose, much like ye olde man-horse dualities of the red skins or parthians
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform's mechanic (argentine emigre, incidentally) bought 1 coupla yrs ago. the bugger's huge.
asciilifeform: likely the argentines fucked it
asciilifeform: ( for post-war su, defo was, to the point that even present-day export market 'ural' is ~exact clone afaik )
asciilifeform: in my mind zundapp is ~the~ 'definitive' motorbike
mircea_popescu: Mocky the item depicted ran on all terain, ~50kmph or so.
asciilifeform: i always picture the result of 5-6 iterations of these, sumthing that loox perhaps like steel mill crucible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have these here, and they even openly advertise, e.g. 'we'll cement new bathtub into yer old one! 3x cheaper!' etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and what do we call the african-argentine plumber who puts in new pipe without taking out old pipe ? "amateur", rite.
mircea_popescu: that nobody happened to visit the facts of life re the latter upon her sorry ass is a particularly harmful coincidence : way the fuck cheaper to not rape some random walflower, being awkward in a corner. way WAY the fuck more expensive to keep large integers from laughing at kock.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for bonus lulz, there is also the 'duct tape' hypothesis. iirc in zimmerman's orig. 'pgp', ~straight fermat~ ( carmichaelizable! ) was used as the sole litmus.
mircea_popescu: it ALL comes right back down to ye olde http://trilema.com/2016/a-story-of-men/#selection-89.280-89.533 ; romantic notions of love cca 1800s readily map on romantic notions of the world around more generally, hence the amatorial outlook.
asciilifeform: good % of what's in koch's thing, cannot be explained in any other way.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is consistent with the overall picture.
asciilifeform: Mocky: i dun drive these things, but iirc there is some free play b/w sidecar and bike
Mocky: asciilifeform: maybe my eye is misreading the perspective, which would make more sense, but that's how it looks to me
mircea_popescu: then koch expects to be hired because koch ~is~, whatever the hell he might be, polite, pedigreed, mit-degreed, "famous" in the smartphone sense etcetera.
mircea_popescu: koch is implementing fermat because fermat ~is~ the test, not because fermat ~does~ something.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890713 << the fundamental problem with these amateur cryptographers (as well as with other amateur everythings, from amateur presidents of the united states to amateur socioideologues on fetlife ) is that they go by what "is" rather than by what ~does~.
Mocky: handlebar is in contact with the sidecar
asciilifeform: Mocky: perhaps i'm thick, but why precisely can the pictured machine not turn right ?
asciilifeform: ( exactly how they did turns, i do not know , but was pretty good all-terrain ride and valuable as spoils , and for many yrs in su they could be seen puttering about )
asciilifeform: Mocky: the krauts used'em, by all accts worked a++
Mocky: asciilifeform re zundapp, leaving aside that it dun look much like a classic blitzkrieg bike to me, I'm commenting on the massive side car that makes the pictured item factually unusable, even with windshield removed
diana_coman: but well, it probably all comes from "yes, but we don't do it properly and therefore..."
diana_coman: asciilifeform, read also next para as in any case there isn't much point to not do M-R if you do it at all
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 14:25 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890659 << ha, nice sidecar. makes it the motorcycle precursor to nascar... right turns not needed. plus good luck reaching that hand clutch
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890697 << it's a classic 'blitzkrieg' zundapp . ( somehow asciilifeform thought that the item is ~instantly recognizable to erryone alive )
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu was the orig 'lead by example' in subj, ran (part of?) his reactor by hand
asciilifeform: imho the only possible arg against it is if you have e.g. 2 hands but 500 worth of process. but evidently jurov , trinque , et al had <= 2 hands worth
mircea_popescu: i didn't have what to argue against it back in 2016 or w/e it started (not that i didn't see it coming, either) and i've not found anything hence. so...
asciilifeform: it makes perfect sense if the job 'fits in hands'
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 12:55 diana_coman: so to put this straight: are you saying that the model you describe (proxies directly wired to the order processing backed) would be a liability for CoinBr or what?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890690 << probably because he wants to personally eye all txns, like trinque . there's been a "no automated processes" wind blowinfg for many years.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890659 << ha, nice sidecar. makes it the motorcycle precursor to nascar... right turns not needed. plus good luck reaching that hand clutch
jurov: I will change the interface when there's any interest. There was no usage past year at all. So, no interface, no online processing, for now.
diana_coman: but then simply change the interface, following existing non-liability model; what am I missing?
jurov: yes, the way I built it (webinterface where you log in) became a liability
diana_coman: so to put this straight: are you saying that the model you describe (proxies directly wired to the order processing backed) would be a liability for CoinBr or what?
jurov: No idea if it's still so, but mpex consisted of proxies directly wired to the order processing backend. Only deposits/withdrawals were processed by hand.
diana_coman: I got that part; my surprise was re why is "accepting gpg-signed orders online" a problem for coinbr given the working model of mpex
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know if anyone asked - I've stated it in the blogpost in clear just the same
mircea_popescu: you also had the benefit of you know, passive enjoyment of ye above work.
asciilifeform: i dun have a squadron of searchers to 'square by square', either.
asciilifeform: 'best magician cannot pull rabbit from hat unless there is actually a rabit in the hat' or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: this lasts as long as it lasts, but if you're actually me and task girls with finding it, and then they (incomprehensibly, and inexplicably) fail and so you cut the town up into squares and have them search it square by square and still NOTHJING turns up, eventually however many months later you can answer authoritatively : the stockyards are bereft of society.
mircea_popescu: it's constantly a "man, i must just not know where the society gathers / parties are / nightlife happens" etc.
mircea_popescu: it's hard to imagine you're in a 20mn strong stockyards sprawling 2-3x the surface area of new york
asciilifeform: 'ru-ar' d00d described 'month -- euphoria, then reality sets in when so happens you want a faucet fixed, or tooth capped, or to buy power brick for lappy' etc
mircea_popescu: cuz totally it's because of the makeup, wut.
mircea_popescu: but no, gotta talk around the bush, "how should a streetwalker to her make-up to improve her marriage prospects."
mircea_popescu: as proven by the fact that ~any~ non-socialism, authoritarian, democratic or howsoever else, is just fucking fine.
mircea_popescu: bullshit. thew problem with socialism, "authoritatian" or "democratic" or blue or green is THAT IT IS SOCIALISM.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 18:36 BingoBoingo: Apparently at some point the local socialists called up Rudy Giulianni for advice on countering petty crime. But... the pichis still get their pasta base and the number of rapiñas keep climbing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890613 << in any approach, this is roughly the issue in vzla also : socialists tryna hard to discuss their internal problems, wholly owned and entirely due TO SOCIALISM in terms of external influence. trotsky was "fascist" don't you know, and maduro is "authoritarian" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: they kept wenting, 1800s through 1950s.
asciilifeform: the italians went in 1st tho, neh?
mircea_popescu: i suspect the italians are a terrible import.
mircea_popescu: and for all the "white supremacist" morons : no fucking wonder they dun wanna discuss argentina.
asciilifeform: i find it mind-boggling that 'biological deficit'. where , for instance, did the 2+mil germans go ?
mircea_popescu: when's the last time a cow made a stalin joke ?
mircea_popescu: similarily they don't WRITE anything. su had samizdat BECAUSE REASONS. argentina doesn't have it, nor does it have said reasons. because NO NEED to. might as well pass legislation to forbid cattle the making of stalin jokes.
mircea_popescu: whereas argentards, no law, they supply the constraint naturally -- be being indescribable morons.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's episode with the space heater was distinctly reminiscent of late-su
mircea_popescu: https://www.elles-se-mettent-nues-pour-nous.fr/photos/actrice/m_darc_bonus.jpg << mireille d'arc, for the innocent.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was right next to a "high value" site of pomposity further north ; in truth there's a LOT of these in the city of "nightlife" that dun exist and "university professors" with the socks bought on credit.
asciilifeform: the linked ru d00d confirms, apparently filled with 'metre + hat' fuglies
mircea_popescu: the problem is not even that it exists, but that it fails to produce the mireilles d'arc one'd expect, ie slender hungry young hotties.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-june-july-and-august-1715-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of June, July and August, 1715. - Part IV.
spyked: apologies for the feedbot join-part spam. the latest outage has helped me discover a subtle bug in pm message delivery; feedbot checks whether a nick is online using the ison irc command, and it didn't handle the corner case when the ison response is empty.
BingoBoingo doubts spray painting "Pocitos" on everything in Cerro would deter them instead of encouraging the behavior. Most of the graffiti from my earliest walks in Montevideo survives, including and especially the low effort tagging.
BingoBoingo: And the kids from Cerro keep coming into Pocitos and Buceo to spray the name of their Barrio on my Rambla
BingoBoingo: Apparently at some point the local socialists called up Rudy Giulianni for advice on countering petty crime. But... the pichis still get their pasta base and the number of rapiñas keep climbing.
BingoBoingo: The Uruguayo raids are a new phenomenon
asciilifeform: the ru d00d's www is interesting, he makes living in buenosaires by giving ru folx guided tours. and his descriptions of the place moar or less concur with mircea_popescu's : 'unprofessionalism in all possible venues: quality of service in restaurant; lawyers who have nfi about law; clerks who cannot count; cabbies that ask you to show'em the way; barbers who cannot shave... you will wonder why argentines in the airport coming back f
BingoBoingo: On this side of the river they keep the streets labeled while doing 100% pinched mains current. At least until the police do one of their post-dawn raids on a local "boca de pasta" and the electricity police accompany to "regularize" the pinched mains.
BingoBoingo was under the impression most cities containing over 250,000 bipeds were majority favela by land area
BingoBoingo: My chunk of the Rio de la Plata has a problem which is the bane of retention ponds and small creeks back in old country
BingoBoingo: (To be clear the blue problem is Cyanobacteria)
BingoBoingo: Though this week the big fount of discontent is the heatwave and blue freshwater of Montevideo's beaches.
BingoBoingo: A lot of the current Uruguayo malaise is being blamed on Mujica/RaulSendic/Kircher/Macri Kirchner and Macri can flip places, but that's roughly the order of blame assignment
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Given Argentina's long sink into irrelevancy, the locals tend to think of Argentina as a diseased extension of Uruguay.
BingoBoingo: For a sample of the local memes https://i.redd.it/sy0ltggru9d21.jpg The larger pink area in the overlay is "Departamento 21 de Uruguay"
asciilifeform: the greater miami.
BingoBoingo: Do the Chinese and Indians even want Miami? I suspect they have their own favored cities for capture.
asciilifeform: at asciilifeform's local uni, even decade ago engineering, maffs, etc. were ~solid china ( + a bit of india ). these days even moar solid -- evidently they didn't get the memo yet, that miami is full
BingoBoingo: Apparently they want the Chicoms accomodate the white worm desire for an English Single Language bubble
BingoBoingo: Until mp handles his camera roll, this is looking like the second place contender http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BDawt/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: What lol, biggest possible news of the day.
asciilifeform: cat * | grep -P '\S' | wc -l in ea. dir does the job.
mod6: I think something like `grep -v "^$"` will give you all the non-empty lines from a file.
asciilifeform: the only 'heavy' component remaining to weld on, is keccakism.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news, trash drama continues in other barrios https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/crisis-en-adeom-los-radicales-renunciaron-a-sus-cargos-y-varela-no-es-mas-el-presidente--201912819954
asciilifeform: '...Bolton did one better and called him “guiado” which could be Spanish for “remote-controlled.” (Was that a Freudian slip or just another one of Bolton’s senior moments?)' etc
BingoBoingo: Well, that does explain why the CIA picked such a manicured numale in the tradition of Canada's princess, and France's Ms. Blakkked. Ty for feeding the local media outlets.
mircea_popescu: in other words, it's perfectly fucking clear ~what exactly~ the talking cunthead dun like about venezuela, and the world in general.
mircea_popescu: and public consensus around the idea of restoring broad-based institutional democracy in Venezuela." bla bla bla bla bla in that inept vein untill she falls over.
mircea_popescu: . His successors, including Jose Antonio Paez, Antonio Guzman Blanco, or Juan Vincente Gomez followed in his footsteps towards personalised power. ; they were more preoccupied with personal aggrandisement than building strong institutions in the the nascent Venezuelan state. ; Personalised power, elitism and authoritarianism continued to dominate the Venezuelan political arena ; His only focus should be on building alliances
mircea_popescu: point in case : Maryhen Jimenez Morales ("is a PhD candidate in politics at University of Oxford.") : " the system of personalised power and governance which the country has experienced for decades did not begin with Hugo Chavez ; The charismatic aristocrat Simon Bolivar ; He was a man in search of glory and a military officer who believed in top-down decision-making. ; The caudillo rule did not disappear with Bolivar's death
mircea_popescu: there's certainly no better reason to read whatever http://trilema.com/2017/i-think-they-might-be-overdoing-it-in-places/#selection-35.0-35.52 esltards on the topic. exactly like that ro kid, they've got nothing to say an' no particular skill in sayin' it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, since there's ~0 results FROM ACTUAL FUCKING VENEZUELA on any kind of google/bing/duckduckgo/whatever the fuck for a search of venezuela, let's link here some actual venues :
BingoBoingo: I see no reason they and Mexico wouldn't
mircea_popescu: anyway, should be lulzy to see if china moves in to buy the oil.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-28 17:47 BingoBoingo: Airstrip One probably made some smooth pitch about how doing so was the only demonstration they would accept if Vzla wanted access to their fx markets. But... unlike republican spain was not in the gold extraction business... empire running away and all that, Vzla is.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-28#1890447 << rather a meaningless move, venezuela confiscated degrees of magnitude more in "foreign investment" etc.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 03:04 BingoBoingo: The latest noise is stroked out John Bolton doing a press conference while holding a notepad with 5000 troops to Colombia written on it. https://archive.is/TYi6x