billymg: i just took a closer look at the files on btcbase.org though and noticed that phf grabbed the old copies from my blog
billymg: hanbot: yes, i am able to press from any of the three current patches
mircea_popescu: hanbot, the file is correct. the expected hash (3e43*) matches the keccak hash of that file ; the actual hash (05f5*) matches the sha hash of that file. you are for some reason using a sha v for this ?
mircea_popescu: sounds like some implicit lf/nl conversions, the loveliest thing in nature.
hanbot: this is pretty much what v exists to prevent, but it seems wp managed to stick one in! billymg did you manage to actually press the genesis? how did you do it? diana_coman, you said you pressed it too? not ran into the issue? anyone else?
hanbot: basically it looks like the one file got mangled (possibly via bad upload/download). can anyone else confirm whether either a) they can actually press the god damned thing or b) they have/have not the mangled file ?
hanbot: 6. what's incomparably worse : | tr '\n' '\r' will transform the file as it correctly stands into a file that matches the "expected" hash.
hanbot: 5. i specifically checked, sieving the file through tr -dc '\0-\177' produces the exact same object unchanged, so i don't think it's utf shenanigans.
hanbot: 4. all other files in that bundle pass just fine.
hanbot: 3. the actual hash of the file, as computed now, matches the actual reported. the signed vpatch, as it exists, contains the expected as listed.
hanbot: 2. the file itself is found on my very hard drive, untouched since i made this thing last year. a ~new~ genesis, which i just made, on the basis of those exact original files, displays the same exact problem.
hanbot: 1. if i try to press the current head of mp-wp (ie, including the patches, either as reconstructed from our blogs or as maintained on btcbase), it dies with a hash mismatch
hanbot: ok, so i'm encountering the strangest problem with v. here it is:
a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 23:28 trinque: bvt: diana_coman: I wager that if you change line 14 of scripts/make_portage_tree.sh to the following, my sig will verify on the resulting genesis.vpatch : dest=$pdir/profiles/${src#$bdir/usr/portage/profiles/}
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-10#1901346 << I can also confirm: I made this change, mounted my cuntoo usb to the build directory and reran ./scripts/make_portage_tree.sh. Sig verified on the resulting genesis
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in top keks : http://www.coenbrothers.net/ (transparent "blog network" for https://top10cryptorobots.com/ which exactly as you imagine...)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, feel free to repo the machine involved.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-20 01:38 hanbot: btw trinque anything grab you re the patchlessness/lack of portage dir in http://thewhet.net/2019/03/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-iv/ ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:20 mircea_popescu: hanbot pick a laptop, bake the man's cuntoo. (principal issue, that gentoo->cuntoo "bridge", see if his sig matches).
mircea_popescu: in other news, ima close http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892053 early feb project in failure, given that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-20#1903539 seems a dead end and i got pressing matters to apply her to..
BingoBoingo: Nah, the gave away the dressmaking tradition to Asia. All they got is the decorations for their boxmixed cakes
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in top keks from the mid 1800s, "Mr. Seward is exerting himself to provoke a quarrel with all Europe, in that spirit of senseless egotism which induces the Americans, with their dwarf fleet and shapeless mass of incoherent squads which they call an army, to fancy themselves the equal of France by land and Great Britain by sea."
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs/ << Trilema -- The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
mircea_popescu notices he didn't write up the ballad of buster scriggs, proceeds to fix
mircea_popescu: (kinda why the "this is everything" pretense is even there ; otherwise if Mrs. Betjeman gets to thinking of what them girls do in paris.... "all is lost!!!"
mircea_popescu: possibly the one most mentally disruptive piece of converesation for the http://trilema.com/2016/stfu-attention-whore-culture/ crowd
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'tailhook' people, pre-clintonization, had a proverb, where iirc 'what you dun know, will not only happily kill you , but eat you for lunch and spit out the bones'
mircea_popescu: this is always the punishment, for failure to fem properly, too. and it's so fucking amusing to expose "womens lib" tard to this sort of "oh but look, the women in THAT group do so much better at all the tings [you falsely claim not to be important though its all that really interests you]".
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the ppls don't see how electronics relates to them! << The rule the Peruana has to follow is the less important something seems, the more important it actually is.
mircea_popescu: nowadays... azn chicks more last cry than knows what to do with, white chicks suckling the cock for free.
mircea_popescu: literallty can not afford. in the early 2000s, it was azn chicks commuting to "pink" in shanghai treasuring an antique, smashed iphone, white chicks commuting to "professional" in washington pristine last generation TWO (cuz gifts from each boyfriend, had spare)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma guess it folded the day lolmart realized it , too, could stock a chinese soldering iron
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Displayed those yes, but the town has a Walmart. Survived on being the shop with the things it had in the place it was. Death of the parent killed it.
asciilifeform: btw i find it interesting, you go on a train ride in washingtonistan and count the ipnojes, 6 outta 7 have smashed glass. apparently even the 50bux or so that it costs if yer hands grow from arse and cant do it yerself, is toomuch for the typical ipnojist..
asciilifeform: in the very last yrs, ratshack tried to live by offering ipnoje glass replacement. problem is , chinese d00dz in open air market do it 2x cheaper.
asciilifeform: with coupla drawers of parts, under 10cm of dust, in the back
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if it was anyffin like the ones here : survived by selling overpriced tv
BingoBoingo: Still, the place survived through 2005 or so in town of white folks under 10k heads
asciilifeform: the ham4lyf d00dz even in '90 already considered ratshack a ripoff, and went to buy/sell the junkyard-scavenged parts 100% from ea. other
mircea_popescu: except some dood selling bracelet stamped parts from china, "crafts" for the esty moron femcrowd ain't the same as the hamradio4lyf dood.
asciilifeform: iirc ratshack already was a zombie in 1990 or so. the wonder is how long the zombie walked, not that it finally crumbled
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, aha, the beginning.
BingoBoingo: The craft store still survives next county over as of December 2017
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, where I grew up local radioshack was a franchise op. Part Radioshack, part crafts stuff franchisee sold in his other store the next county over.
mircea_popescu: so they did what they do, "band together and preternd on a 1. 1 >0 even if 1 != the infinity it should be"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but even it was BORN -- it was born because the local tards did not have the intellectual capacity to support actual infrastructure, nevertheless wanted to pretend to participate in human world.
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu found 1 down south at some pt, but there is no resupply for'em, the co long ago folded , asciilifeform went and bought ~entire contents of 1 for a hundy or so )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> right ? and WHAT THE FUCK do they put IN THE PLACE, physical as well as financial, thus saved ? same thing women put in the place where "floor washing on hands and knees" and "bake cake" used to go, ie subhuman africanisms ? oh, but tyvm, this progress is so very fecal./ << What they put in the place are a bunch of storefront kiosks each selling a particular wireless carrier's products.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, radioshack was already symptom of death, federalized to "survive". in the sane world of the 90s these were so many independent shops, ran by period roger vers, tryna do radio advertisements and whatnot.
asciilifeform: for that matter, that same bolix, and the 1989 crapple it rides on, 100% orig parts ( save for http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2943 which i stuffed in preemptively )
asciilifeform: '90s irons were solid, in comparison even with that opteron. e.g. i still have a 486 that worx like the day it was new, not even recapped ever
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, used to be every town of 100k or more white people had a store with some of ALL of those in stock << And then Retards killed radioshack
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know full well what 'they put in place'. single-chip disposable rubbishes that konsoomer is expected to buy and shuddup etc
mircea_popescu: right ? and WHAT THE FUCK do they put IN THE PLACE, physical as well as financial, thus saved ? same thing women put in the place where "floor washing on hands and knees" and "bake cake" used to go, ie subhuman africanisms ? oh, but tyvm, this progress is so very fecal./
mircea_popescu: "but mp, it's all for the better, think of all the space and inventory capial saved by the better jit methods of commercial distribution"
asciilifeform: the genuine 'can't gets' , i stocked up on
asciilifeform: ( errything else is either standard catalogue '80s piece, or PAL )
asciilifeform: tho since we're on subj, i'ma add that the bolix, for what its faults, was entirely repairable, the only 'magic' part that aint off-shelf is the cpu
mircea_popescu: make the whole damn thing the civilised way rather than sinking "half hours" into by-hand bs.
mircea_popescu: re out there doing systematic by-hand mobo-ing because "valuable resource ran extinct", might as well have baked... i dunno, a half-sane southbridge ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean, by the time we
asciilifeform: lol all the bolx thrds ?
asciilifeform: lol ffs why wouldja re-create the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't expect we'll ever be recreating these gnarly insanities. x86 mobos nothing to worship, even leaving aside the
asciilifeform: sorta why submarine has lathe etc. on board.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will add that 'peanut' can grow to 'pea-elephant' if -- and this time verily cometh -- there is not a replacement on hand.
asciilifeform: ftr recapping my 'tyan' took maybe half hr, counting the photographies.
asciilifeform: xray takes 1min or so; looking at the balls, maybe hr, i'ma pro bono. beyond that prolly not worth.
asciilifeform: even the satellite people only seem to give a shit up to 7 yrs or so, re iron life
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you end up throwing it, feel free to send for xray ( if thing is >35cm on the long edge, may have to saw it ) , then can say 'solder ball this-here unballed' etc. valuable old irons aging data point, potentially.
mircea_popescu: once the electronix ppl land i might have a better something.
asciilifeform: mine wasn't an obvious (sans mag glass) capdeath either iirc
mircea_popescu: i suspect somehow the actual controller died somehow. nfi how as of yet.
asciilifeform: ( since that article, asciilifeform did get a hotter iron, but reworking rohsisms is still a bitch, the high temp tends to lift the tracks )
asciilifeform: then you'd have to do what i did aha
mircea_popescu: these are rohs.
asciilifeform: it's the 'rohs' europitarded newer ones that dunwant
asciilifeform: btw pre-07 (or so) mobos solder easily, they still have pb
mircea_popescu: took some doing, like everything worth doing fucking does these days.
asciilifeform: i fix mine not cuz like the smell but cuz they're rare enuff , aint nobody making moar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you still haven't thrown that mobo and wanna put it back in service, feel free to gpgram which caps you need, and where to poste'em, i'ma send you some from own crate, then possibly you can get the bmw fixer d00d to solder it for a bottle o'rum or etc
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:55 asciilifeform: the underlying algo, tho, oughta be obv -- if you have a primorial up to X, you dun need to do anything fancy (e.g. m-r) to get the next prime you want to multiply into it , all you need is to gcd and see if the next number is relatively prime to it, if it is -- then it is prime, and can go 'in'.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:40 asciilifeform: for untrained eye, these are prolly indistinguishable from 'brainfuck' and other kunstkammerisms. but for trained eye, oughta be quite unambiguous imho .
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904055 << that's the primo quality of a good brainfuck. just ask the sluts.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:21 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: surely you meant 'socket am3' ? 'socket 3' was iirc their 486-compat !
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, btw could delete item http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 ? was just a test of the comment filteruing issue not understood at the time, has nothing to do with qntra per se. << done
asciilifeform: the 'limiting reactant' speedwise is gcd ( o(n^2), see ch. 15. ) .
asciilifeform: so we begin with the accumulator having 2*3 = 6 , and roll from there ( the first number tested is 5, then after that 7, then gets to 9 and that's the first rejected one that doesn't get multiplied in, then 11 does, then .... and so forth until the termination condition )
asciilifeform: the underlying algo, tho, oughta be obv -- if you have a primorial up to X, you dun need to do anything fancy (e.g. m-r) to get the next prime you want to multiply into it , all you need is to gcd and see if the next number is relatively prime to it, if it is -- then it is prime, and can go 'in'.
asciilifeform still waking up, may have made other mistake in above, will leave this q also as exercise !
asciilifeform: the reg-less version, i will leave as exercise for readers.
asciilifeform: i'dve posted the commented orig version, but naturally dun fit in log line.
asciilifeform: otherwise correct expansion.
asciilifeform: a large % of the delta , by mass, is eggog detection + helpful message prints for same
asciilifeform: the forth-like notation admittedly requires some practice, for the unprepared ; but the win from it is a fits-in-head interpreter ( ch.17 -- 1024 ln; ch.18 , with subroutines , currently writing the docs -- 1516 , and not expected to ever grow much )
asciilifeform: for untrained eye, these are prolly indistinguishable from 'brainfuck' and other kunstkammerisms. but for trained eye, oughta be quite unambiguous imho .
asciilifeform: finally _ discards the 0 put down by the final clause of the conditional when 'not taken'. , (ch17) is the loop terminator, it pops from stack and if sees nonzero, then cycles back to the : , otherwise moves forward. in the end, x puts reg 'x' on stack, $ prints, QY returns 'yes' verdict.
asciilifeform: {_.0} happens if the upper half is not zero, i.e. overflow (really can be replaced by {}, i wrote it hastily) , it puts down a 0 so the loop will halt ; the 'else' clause is {$x.1} , where we did not overflow, so we put the xy* lower half into reg 'x' and leave a 1 on stack so the loop continues.
asciilifeform: xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_ pushes to stack and multiplies regs 'x' and 'y' ; after this, the stack contains two numbers, the upper half of the mul result followed by the lower;
asciilifeform: in the 'gcd == 1' left clause, we have xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_
asciilifeform: after this, { ..... }{.1}_, and so if it were not, the loop simply cycles again;
asciilifeform: .1= computes whether this is equal to 1, leaving 1 on stack if it were, and 0 if were not.
asciilifeform: xyG pushes to stack reg 'x', then reg 'y', and computes gcd, which then is sole item on stack.
asciilifeform: y.2+$y increments reg 'y' by 2 ( y pushes current reg 'y' to stack; .2 pushes 0x2 ; + adds the top 2 items on stack. $y assigns result to reg 'y' ).
asciilifeform: *until width exceeded (the mul has nonzero upper half) to be pedantic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: surely you meant 'socket am3' ? 'socket 3' was iirc their 486-compat !
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904027 << the example looks gnarly but is actually simple. in pseudocode :x:=6; y:=3; do{y:=y+2; if gcd(x,y)==1 then x:=x*y;}until (x*y is wider than width); return x
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 10:36 mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, they're 20 years old by now. but give me a break, i can find chicks that were spawned 20 years ago just fine, for one thing. and for the other, what the fuck, 2001 era amd cpus STILL to this day the state of the art, they've not yet made better.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 10:33 mircea_popescu: sooo, my amd socket 3 mobo that was powering the chatstation crapped out. just like that, turned off for the last time, wouldn't come back.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08a-feedbot-i.html << The Tar Pit -- Feedbot [i]: the feed db; its manipulation; and the feed checker
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, btw could delete item http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 ? was just a test of the comment filteruing issue not understood at the time, has nothing to do with qntra per se.
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, they're 20 years old by now. but give me a break, i can find chicks that were spawned 20 years ago just fine, for one thing. and for the other, what the fuck, 2001 era amd cpus STILL to this day the state of the art, they've not yet made better.
mircea_popescu: obviously i did what any respectable lord would do : reach for the spare. which, once installed, wouldn't post either, just spun the cpu fan at max rotation and that's that.
mircea_popescu: sooo, my amd socket 3 mobo that was powering the chatstation crapped out. just like that, turned off for the last time, wouldn't come back.
billymg: hope to have the one that strips out tinymce ready this weekend
billymg: hanbot: phf: the patches and sigs for the mirrored mp-wp tree can be found here http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/
asciilifeform: ^ largest prime in the 256b primorial.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-14 17:20 mircea_popescu: this is actually going to be teh magic number of the republic. so at this juncture i would like to ask everyone to compute "the largest primorial (ie, product of all successive primes) that fits in 515 bits", sign it and put it into deedbot.
asciilifeform: ( the above req's only ch17 )
diana_coman: hello asciilifeform ; ftr I've been enjoying the pehbot demos but atm I don't have a lot of time to catch up faster with ffa, sadly.
asciilifeform: ( ch18 patch is written, and the writeup will be also in the coming days -- but i'd like to finally have 8thbit-clean thing )
asciilifeform: phf: do you have the anti-utfism patch for vdiff from earlier thrd, or do i need to bake one
phf: diana_coman: sorry, that was directed at hanbot. thank you for catching the missing sigs!
diana_coman: other than that I don't know of other patches though perhaps hanbot is the best person to ask about this
diana_coman: phf: I don't see there any sig from billymg for his patches though?
phf: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp i've added the two patches from billymg, please let me know if i'm missing anything
hanbot: billymg: these are the totality of your mp-wp patches, yes? http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ ; i don't recall anyone else having patches, please chime in if you do. meanwhile phf please add <--- to mp-wp tree, and i'ma solder these to the genesis after which danielpbarron i'd be happy to show you how to make a vpatch for your fix.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/03/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1716-part-iii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1716. - Part III.
asciilifeform: ^ in other noose. asciilifeform had to think for coupla hrs about how to impose this fascism compactly. ended up just 3 ln.
hanbot: danielpbarron excellent find. i suppose the apache upgrade's breakage of shared pizarro customers' .htaccess files ought to have been a giveaway here. anyway, impressive; ty. d'you wanna make a patch for this + the db name change in wp-comments-post.php diana_coman pointed out? otherwise i'll do eeit.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-21 09:47 diana_coman: I suppose one now should also comb the thing for any other anonymous functions that might need the use clause or otherwise work with empty vars
asciilifeform: ( for incredulous readers outside the idjit reservation -- in usa, if burglar breaks in and eats sumthing you left in kitchen, and gets case of indigestion, he can sue and win )
BingoBoingo: Well, civil law country. If your self defense claim works in the courts, it works in the courts.
BingoBoingo: But the ones getting shot are sticking up retail businesses or hitting armored trucks when they park in front on banks in the old city
asciilifeform: rright but there are some batshit jurisdictions (e.g. ru) where you ~can~ buy the 12ga, but if shoot burglar you get longer sentence than he would've if instead him caught
BingoBoingo: Burglars aren't much of a thing. Gun laws used to be very loose, though they are tighter now. There's not much in the houses to steal that isn't in their mochillas when the folks go out.
BingoBoingo: And no one here gets that houses in the USA are made out of stick and fluff sheathed in plastic
asciilifeform: lol BingoBoingo , dafuq would be the point of window bars when massive glass doors and cardboard walls
BingoBoingo: I try explaining to the Latinos and Latinas that US houses in the burbs don't have bars on the windows because there isn't shit inside worth taking, given the risk of getting shot invading a stranger's home.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-21 17:51 asciilifeform: rly, where exactly ~is~ the mythical army of expert pickpocket
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-21#1903897 -> expert pickpocket is first of all expert in choosing victim; that being said, in Bucharest it was the 601 bus (always overflowing) and/or buses/trams from the North Station (bc. people with luggage in a hurry to get on the bus); this doesn't mean that it's not obvious and avoidable but assuming you want to bait them for the xp, those are easy spots.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upstack to garbage warz -- not all garbage is created equal. e.g. asciilifeform found errything from pristine knuth aop , to far-infrared thermoelectrically cooled camera , zeiss lenses , etc. all in garbage. the key is to go to the correct garbage.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Usually 2 politics pieces every other day. I try to at least eat the headlines. I like having a picture of where old country is headed.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i cannot resist to bite : how many of these do you read erryday ? i read 1 or 2 and my dosimeter's black, i can feel brain cells shriveling up
mircea_popescu: some folk -- do for limited time. other folk -- do for life.
asciilifeform: i cant speak for other folx who dug in garbage, but when i did, this never was obstacle
BingoBoingo: The feria spreads are a split between stolen and dumpster recollected
asciilifeform: do orcs even know how to steal properly ? ( recall, sunday market, had among other things a carpet fulla... tv remotes. in ro i saw same, manned by gypsies. who the fuck steals these , and why ? who buys ? )
BingoBoingo: 2 km, and no, no one was inclined to steal because the opteron was in mystery boxes attended by actual people
mircea_popescu: and stop wasting public funds on "government advertising" inept nonsense. instead of "uruguay por todos" or whatever poodlethemes, "hey old woman, have you done your duty today ?"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Chorros are a local demographic that considers themselves professional theives, mostly dumpster divers and picker uppers of unsecured items of dubious value
mircea_popescu: truly they should oppressed, the sort of politically active old woman should get govt-issued ration card.
mircea_popescu: teh motochorros are the normally functioning social tissue. the diseased part is the "inseguridad" lobby.
mircea_popescu: only fucking social function of old women -- either train the young sluts, or eat the boi dick.
asciilifeform: rly, where exactly ~is~ the mythical army of expert pickpocket
BingoBoingo: There's Y-chromosone bipeds who swear they keep getting robbed by motochorros. It's the same folks all the time, because they won't stop going around like fucking scared rabbits.
asciilifeform: ( in point of fact, the 'cannibals' spend 99% of their time in same vegetative state as other ameri-victims )
mircea_popescu: it's entirely not about "folks" or "people". i am pretty sure by now it's entirely old woman code, in the vein of http://trilema.com/2018/the-retards-handshake/
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's this notion among folx who won't even go, on a bet, to the reservation, 'cannibals will eat immediately'
BingoBoingo: Well, you've been in the US a while. You aren't going to go up to a pack of Urban youths and ask to take a picture with them.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: even there, the folx who ~never~ set foot , have muchly exaggerated picture, 'like minefield' . whereas e.g. asciilifeform spent good bit of time in e.g. bmore , and not even insulted, much less eaten
BingoBoingo: These people will not believe that no, US cities like Baltimore, St Louis, and Chicongo have actual insecurity.
mircea_popescu: by a good measure better than hanging out with the poodle lady.
BingoBoingo: It's the paper ripping on the guy who wants to cut taxes because "la mayor preoccupacíon" is insecurity
pehbot: asciilifeform: EGGOG: FATAL: Tick: 40 IP: 11 Symbol: '!' : Cannot invoke Subroutine 'bar' before the position where it is defined!
trinque: going to have to give this thing a look soon; the mystery state of connected-yet-gone is getting more frequent.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upstack -- ch18 has several potentially-controversial new restrictions, hence the previews / reqs for comments.
mircea_popescu: lol. why all the animals ? i got hupets.
asciilifeform in no particular hurry. was to be yet-another ch18ism demo.
diana_coman: I suppose one now should also comb the thing for any other anonymous functions that might need the use clause or otherwise work with empty vars
diana_coman: that actually explains nicely also why hanbot did not spot it earlier perhaps and why when I looked on her blog it seemed to work - possibly it silently broke only when she moved her hosting and in the process upgraded php version too
diana_coman: danielpbarron confirmed, it works indeed, thank you. So it's a matter of php version then?
diana_coman: so hm, the hook for pre_comment_content is not set properly then? might be worth chasing that lead
mircea_popescu: if that fixes it, the problem are bad filters set somewhere, i expect ?
hanbot: that being the only (very faint) lead i've got after looking through every damned file where strip_tags appears, looking at comment_form idem, i stuck a function in my theme's comments specifically to allow desired tags, no dice...i dunno where else to look, frankly.
asciilifeform sadly has nuffin to add to the php debug thrd, finds php a voodoo art
a111: Logged on 2019-03-20 17:32 asciilifeform: ( the other design objective, perhaps less obvious, is that enables treatment of incoming ciphertexts as 'passive subjects' operated upon by 'active' privkey, i.e. it is not possible for an incoming pehgram to decide to print yer privkey to screen, or radio its bits to aether by constructed pattern of decrypts, etc )
asciilifeform: ( hint: it's 1 of the mechanisms behind http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-20#1903598 . )
asciilifeform: there we go.
pehbot: asciilifeform: EGGOG: FATAL: Tick: 68 IP: 68 Symbol: '!' : Attempted movement to IP: 6 violates the Cutout!
asciilifeform: loox like i killed the lisp bot , brb
BingoBoingo: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8WfnB/?raw=true << The comments.php file contents on Bingology
mircea_popescu: is $allowedtags ever unset() (presumably downstream from where it prints the contents above forum box) ?
diana_coman: either it doesn't strip 2 levels or it doesn't strip specifically inside pre
mircea_popescu: meanwhile both http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 and http://bingology.net/2019/03/14/more-future-sight-in-the-southern-cone/comment-page-1/#comment-689 handle it correctly
mircea_popescu: http://bimbo.club/2019/03/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-july-august-and-september-1716-part-ix/comment-page-1/#comment-101 << same here.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-20 22:19 hanbot: diana_coman, there's at least one instance of this happening on my blog (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729169), but i dun recall doing anything to "fix" it, unhelpfully. maybe it's actually 100% broken and i just don't get link comments? lessee.
mircea_popescu: hanbot confirmed. http://thewhet.net/2019/03/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-55201 was "No it <a href=http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-20#1903776>didn't</a>."
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: initially I tried to simply drop in my own theme but that did not play nicely with mpwp; and for a (very short) time I stayed with the basic but it was so annoying that I quickly whipped up something.
hanbot: diana_coman, there's at least one instance of this happening on my blog (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729169), but i dun recall doing anything to "fix" it, unhelpfully. maybe it's actually 100% broken and i just don't get link comments? lessee.
diana_coman: hanbot: maybe I messed up at some point all themes; I'll press the genesis again and unpack a clean theme from there and see if that sorts it
diana_coman: so I guess the first thing is if anyone else can replicate it or it's something specific to my setup somehow - in which case,it's entirely mine to find...
hanbot: i wish i knew what the shit. what really throws me is same behavior cross-theme, as i thought this stuff was theme-handled. i'ma keep digging.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman factually, it works on mine, and on all other mp-wp installs ~but yours~.
diana_coman: hanbot seems to have them working on her blog and so does nicoleci where I think it's barebasic install so as close to genesis as possible
mircea_popescu: yup they get stripped. wtf.
diana_coman: the only thing to do next that I can think of is to try and trace wtf happens, step by step but I don't even have a clear idea on that.
diana_coman: it's live and it shows: XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <pre> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>
mircea_popescu: yeah. and it was there ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I did uncomment the "you can use these html tags" which calls allowed_tags and that showed precisely what is in allowedtags as far as I could tell
mircea_popescu: can you dump the actual content of $allowedtags while the thing is running ? is it getting blanked somewhere downstream ?
mircea_popescu: i don't currently know wtf to tell you. there's these two points, whereby $allowedtags hold the allowed tags and then that content filter removes some from comments at time of posting.
diana_coman: also: I tried adding specifically to that array, another tag but it clearly just ignores/bypasses it somewhere; not even sure how to figure out *where* (i.e. when)
diana_coman adds it to the list to unfuck and probably post, ugh.
diana_coman: other than that I grepped around and could not find additional hooks set, nor additional calls to strip nor anything useful really
diana_coman: fwiw if I'm logged in, it keeps the tags in comments and I saw that yes, it has that current_user can html sort of thing but that is ALL html
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I installed it from hanbot's genesis; I added my old footnote's plugin and changed in the theme to show the recent comments, that's about it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes: $allblocks = '(?:table|thead|tfoot|caption|colgroup|tbody|tr|td|th|div|dl|dd|dt|ul|ol|li|pre|select|form|map|area|blockquote|address|math|style|input|p|h[1-6]|hr)';
mircea_popescu: in formatting.php, is in on the list of $allblocks ?
diana_coman: confirmed, it's in there: comment_content = ( isset($_POST['comment']) ) ? trim(strip_tags($_POST['comment'],"<a><em><strong><i><b><blockquote><ul><ol><li>")) : null;
diana_coman: that one is there, I saw it earlier
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: what/where should I look exactly? my dig into this yielded a sort of 1001 possible filters to add but I could not find one other than default afaik
mircea_popescu: diana_coman is there a filters hook thing ?
hanbot: bizarre. i'll look into it, possibly mircea_popescu knows the culprit by sight tho'.
diana_coman: rather: allowedtags var in kses.php which I understand is used by default filters
diana_coman: I couldn't find any specific hook added and my theme doesn't seem to be to blame for this either as I tried with out-of-box theme and it was same behaviour
diana_coman: I looked and apparently I have the allowed_html array fine in kses.php
diana_coman: hanbot, mircea_popescu or any other mpwp expert: how do I allow html tags in comments for non-logged in users?
asciilifeform: i suppose from the pov where errybody since ww1 is a rag doll, then yes no grunt to be had
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform riiight, cuz that's how it works. "other than that one gangbang she told me about, i married a virgin"
mircea_popescu: think for a second : the "grunt" is mental ghost, from before phone age. can you picture one with smartphone anymore than you can picture juliet capuled with double dong ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nope. the grunt no longer exists, and ~hasn't~, other than in pretense, since vietnam. << Pretty fair assessment. All I've know drank themselves into various sorts of bondage.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 22:36 asciilifeform at one time did work that put'im in contact with these folx. met a d00d who, convincingly, described playing 'call of duty: iraq' on... lappy, in actual iraq
asciilifeform: iirc there was even a recent mircea_popescu piece on subj ! one with 'fox' and 'bull'
mircea_popescu: nope. the grunt no longer exists, and ~hasn't~, other than in pretense, since vietnam.
asciilifeform: they aint even shaped same.
mircea_popescu: not the case here.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Local wizard fucking with traffic at the intersection of General Artigas y General Rivera