mircea_popescu: what the fuck is fourteen weeks for.
mircea_popescu: "The smell was far worse mostly sober, but through a lot of "hand"iwork I was able to get three months of doxycycline and bactrim along with fluconazole and a single dose of some weird IV shit and an ointment. "
mircea_popescu: myeah. apparently dad never told him you're supposed to be charitable with women on the first date ?
mircea_popescu: in fact i did cover the distance (naon 3500 to corrientes ~7k) in about an hour give or take.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, in the 4 blocks to the mile world her disbelief'd be a lot more at home, but ba is way denser than that.
BingoBoingo: Fuck even in small town here only fit 4-8 blocks to the mile.
BingoBoingo: Last night it was drizzling yet pleasant temperature so went to take a short walk. half a kilometer out started raining hard by no wind or lightening so figured I'd enjoy the sidewalks to myself.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the city blocks here are reasonably scammy, there's like 10, even 20 to a mile.
mircea_popescu: splendid weather in ba too, like 20 degrees, pleasant sun down here.
mircea_popescu: you should have seen the fucking disbelief on this middle aged woman i asked for directions yest. she was "you gotta take the colectivo, that's like... very far. it's unthinkably far. it's like... at least 50 blocks".
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I mean you have to figure the average reddit-mate gets a parking placard for their Autism and never has to walk more than 40 ft at a time again.
mircea_popescu: black mamie-type waitress could not fucking believe the skinny white boy finished the first one, it was the size of her bosom.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You fuck the energy out though, and... walk places...
mircea_popescu: there are people still walking around who watched me eat TWO full steaks for breakfast in alabama.
mircea_popescu: I watcher her eat a whole appetizer at a mexican restaurant along with an entree dish and a combo platter as her side. <<< ftr /me does this all the fucking time.
BingoBoingo: Then again Government Motors sells new Chevy Suburbans for the price of a modest Suburban house because cognitively paying that much for huge vehicle is cognitively less expensive than recognizing one let themselves get huge and doing something about it.
HeySteve: BingoBoingo just agree to build a bomb for some Iranians, take their Plutonium and give them back a shell full of used pinball parts
BingoBoingo: More the opposites. Condoms cost more than tissues per load expended.
BingoBoingo: On the plus side brag that you've had to buy tires more often than you've had to refuel
BingoBoingo: Goind downhill, kicking the ground Flinstones style occasionaly
mircea_popescu: it's altogether unclear to me how long we'd have taken to figure out the dpaste deedbot- mechanism if there wasn't this dpaste thing for bashes
BingoBoingo: On the one plus though it seems that HAD to bring back body on frame construction... I mean seriously... No way they would do something like this as a unibody...
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how many actually remember the important role of the bash function in the development of later crucial bits of infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha punkman wins all of the bashes.
BingoBoingo: They promise though that if it rolls over "It will land on its feet" because... batteries go under drivers ass and the car's body
punkman: maybe the stereo runs on gasoline
mircea_popescu: when you could achieve the same effect with two and a half tons worth of lithium poison
BingoBoingo: "Why was there poop in your shower ?"
BingoBoingo: na/k imbalance less of an issue unless sweating and the sweat is being separated from the skin.
mircea_popescu: i doubt there's any argentine under 60 that has any fucking idea wtf brand of sardines that was.
punkman: do the argentines still celebrate Sacco and Vanzetti?
mircea_popescu: and na/k imbalance and a bunch of other chemical issues yes.
BingoBoingo: Leading too <mircea_popescu> as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control) << Glycogen and ATP depletion. The nerves fire, but the only muscle movements possible are less precise.
mircea_popescu: "On 23 August 1927, Sacco and Vanzetti were executed; in response, a 24-hour general strike was proclaimed in Buenos Aires, as well as many other capitals of the world. Several days after the executions, Di Giovanni received a letter from Sacco's widow, which thanked him for his work, and informing him that the director of the tobacco firm Combinados had proposed her a contract to produce a cigarette brand named "Sacco
BingoBoingo: At the present it is. As the Insurance to pay injured and disabled hoodrats bezzel depletes...
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3008 << "The cops do not want you to dieas that brings major heat. They just want to shoot you so that they can feel better about not winning any fights back in high school. Dude, your hoodrat carcass is a pain in the ass to everyone, except for your mamma, who just won the "hatched a got-shot hoodrat" lottery, and will be cashing in on your dumbass."
mircea_popescu: and as the rider becomes unable to exercise fine control, he becomes unable to maintain balance.
mircea_popescu: (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control)
mircea_popescu: as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control
mircea_popescu: the thing with using force is that your muscles are dual controlled, there's a fine and a gross motor innervation.
mircea_popescu: also the mechanical bull is specifically designed to defeat men, which is to say, humans who use force to compensate for a lack of gracefulness.
mircea_popescu: (the reason the thigh gap exists, anatomically, is exactly to provide insulation from work friction as seen there. her cunt's in the air throughout)
mircea_popescu: the reason she's so good is because she puts no work into it whatsoever. just absorbs the bull with minimal friction.
punkman: chick was pretty good, most derps on youtube try to hold on using only their hands
punkman: the mech-bull is a stand-in for a sybian right?
mircea_popescu: in other news, the female herding behaviour. (the practitioners refer it as "protecting", because totally, there's so much that wrinkly ass can protect from and so very much protection teh young slut needs.) http://41.media.tumblr.com/1fae76d2e368184cb8f67fd935a7190d/tumblr_nq3h28JcX41s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
cazalla: hate to admit it, but there is little more i enjoy that butter soaked bread with an inch thick spread of vegemite
BingoBoingo: Ever since the 1950s-or whatever-vegemite has been a way to symbolically make white Australians feel superior to Aboriginals by literally eating their f*****g skin in a jar.
assbot: US woman posts #banvegemite rant online because she thinks the spread is racist | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx8pZX )
mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.
mircea_popescu: everyone in usg gets killed all the fucking time
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:23:15; ascii_field: thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287899 << dude this is like the "oh show me a rothschild" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.
mircea_popescu: when boys start listening to their moms and acting with "common decency", the one thing they get is their asshole fucked like it were a pussy.
mircea_popescu: and yes they should rub it in. more every day, that's the only way the worms will get the point.
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:14:50; ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287873 << they can't, just, idiots put up with it.
assbot: The Real Problem of Sexual Assault on Campus? | Uncouth Reflections ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmbAob )
mircea_popescu: also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:04:37; thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?
mircea_popescu: But, somehow, when we mention it, he wears a look so grim we wonder if he rode the goat ---- or if the goat rode him!
assbot: "RIDING the GOAT" Very strange Fraternal Lodge Initiation, 1928. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwS )
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:43:58; phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287823 << you know it was just b-a of the 1800s.
mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:34:09; phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287810 << ahahah. also as to the praxis, "Superfluous redundancy" :D
mircea_popescu: (except in turkey, where they do, and for this reason alone the united states should be a subject state of istanbul!)
mircea_popescu: today fucking airlines can't as much as not forever lose your bags, let alone SEND PEOPLE TO PICK THEM UP FROM YOUR FUCKING CAB!!!!
mircea_popescu: and the entire society is organised around this notion.
mircea_popescu: hint : dude travels ON THE TRAIN with a pile of luggage. he tells the porter to take it all and put it in a cab and send it at so and so hotel. because he's a dude in the suit traveling solo and can't be bothered to lift anything heavier than his hat
mircea_popescu: whatch five fucking minutes from the beginning "Band wagon" with fred astaire to get a fucking idea of what life in america still was, in the 50s.
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:32:23; ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287799 << yeah, on the grounds of having been built for reasonably well off / middle class people in the... 1920s.
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1290.jpg
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For a portion of the market, but like many other things at some point they will probably die suddenly
BingoBoingo: mike_c: The republican nominee field this year is awfully noisy. Rand is falling into his father's pattern, Lizards love Fiorina, and Trump is just a protest vote.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: He prolly is. Wants to resurrect the McCain/Romney train since Santorum had to be skipped.
mike_c: I think rubio is warming up for the next one.
trinque: it will be a fascinating thing if the US attempt to align the Middle East with itself - via some naive "we'll make them all South Korea and Japan!" notion - results in alignment with Russia, and even more amusing if the thing actually results in some semblance of "peace in the Middle East" down the road
trinque: *the cooler head
trinque: Russia seems to be demonstrating *to the Middle East* that it is cooler head among the external powers.
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/30/us-un-assembly-idUSKCN0RT2MS20150930 << He added: "If it (Russia) is against the terrorists, it's not abnormal to launch strikes against them."
BingoBoingo decided to for "yes" to Rubio rather than "no" on jeb with his stake though https://bitbet.us/stats/14BqjpHAeM2EC6aJkrzM7cbTeePQCJJs5C/
mike_c: srsly, all the more reason to bet no, right?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well there's a popular and derpy for and than... just kinda forgot that niche existed
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:43:28; BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288008 << not only is it still a thing, but there is TO THIS DAY nothing like an actual replacement for it.
asciilifeform: '...'I'm happy to say,' said Arpad, 'that fourteen S.S. men were shot on our recommendation. Adolf Eichmann himself congratulated us. 'You met him, did you?' I said. 'Yes' said Arpad, 'and I'm sorry I didn't know at the time how important he was.' 'Why?' I said. 'I would have killed him,' said Arpad.'
asciilifeform: (k. vonnegut. 'mother night.')
asciilifeform: obligatory: ''How would they dare?' he said. 'I was such a pure and terrifying Aryan that they even put me in a special detachment. Its mission was to find out how the Jews always knew what the S.S. was going to do next There was a leak somewhere, and we were out to stop it' He looked bitter and affronted, remembering it, even though he had been that leak. 'Was the detachment successful in its mission?' I said. 'I'm happy to s
BingoBoingo: In related news, the botanical season of fall started today in the front yard. First leaves on the Sweet Gum tree changed colors in the past three hours.
BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.
jurov: “This might be the iPhone of retirement products,” says Moshe Milevsky, an associate professor of finance at York University
jurov: anyone going in together? :D
assbot: It’s sleazy, it’s totally illegal, and yet it could become the future of retirement - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwpVNU )
jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/
jurov: "The first phase of the TrueCrypt audit project, ... covered the driver code, but "Windows drivers are complex beasts"
phf: ascii_field: saw it of course. i wanted to cut out the whole blkcut -> block -> eatblock roundtrip, plus i want to see how fast it can eat at saturation. which is surprisingly not fast at all
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: at least from the pov of Mysterious Serious People
ascii_field: it is more or less the only path from a known-genuine, pre-valuablebtc bitcoin client to something demonstrably degavinized
ascii_field: it is important to remember why we came up with the whole shebang of 'fits-in-head 1-page' patches, 'v', the lot
ascii_field: can't really blame'em either
ascii_field: (if it were rid of boost, openssl, bdb, and c++ entirely - it will not be 'bitcoind' in any familiar sense, but another thing entirely)
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:56:57; thestringpuller: can't wait till bitcoind is fully deturdified
phf: ascii_field: that's why it's not on the ml
ascii_field: phf: i never saw a reason to put the iteration of blocks in the cpp. really it is a job for scripting lang from outside
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
phf: i added eatbulk to bitcoind that takes a folder with blk dat files and eats them in order, provisioning the node at the moment. pointless graphs time! http://glyf.org/tmp/height-time.png hours vs block height, http://glyf.org/tmp/height-delta.png block height vs delay from previous ACCEPTED
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
ascii_field: ' It's still hiring like crazy, with nearly 10,000 open jobs listed on its website, for instance, and it has ratcheted up research and development a bit, spending $8.7 billion in its last fiscal year — which ended in August — compared to $8.6 billion in fiscal 2014.' << does anyone else feel brain melting from the sheer density of flimflam packed into this paragraph ?
ascii_field: 'Lots of tech companies do that, but in Oracle's case, it is mandating that all employees pay for this furlough with four days of their paid time off/vacation time, according to several sources we spoke to.' << l0l
BingoBoingo: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: kinda uncanny, "hate teh local police, love the national guard"
thestringpuller: it was the feds iirc who protected the black children attending newly integrated schools
thestringpuller: during brown v board of education, the police and white people were indistinguishable
ascii_field: thestringpuller: no shit
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> (in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope) << The one state has Gubanatorial elections coming up, expect rhetoric to return
ascii_field: thestringpuller: none of it is about prosecuting
thestringpuller: well local police are rarely proesecuted. the whole reason the LA riots occurred is cause d00ds got off on charges of Police Brutality
ascii_field: (in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope)
ascii_field: notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456
thestringpuller: The LA Riots saw the unification of the Bloods and Cryps for a short time in similar spirit described in the warriors
thestringpuller: "You're standing right now with nine delegates from 100 gangs. And there's over a hundred more. That's 20,000 hardcore members. Forty-thousand, counting affiliates, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to fight: 60,000 soldiers! Now, there ain't but 20,000 police in the whole town." << I would think if gangs outnumber the police the last thing you want is an escalation of war. I.e. national guard/army
ascii_field: but instead there was 'controversy'
ascii_field: in the sense that the rioters were not rounded up and hanged in gibbets in public square
ascii_field: they won.
thestringpuller: Compton is still "the hood"
thestringpuller: ascii_field: not nearly as bad as the LA Riots
trinque: check out tubby on the bicycle, lol
ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN
ascii_field: precisely like the presidential forbidden city motorcades
thestringpuller: ascii_field: ugh this brings back terrible memories. So what's the deal with interrupts like airplane food?
thestringpuller: the sad thing about interrupts on nintendo's handhelds is its used for all the useful shit...
ascii_field: on modern x86 there are elaborate queueing/prioritization kludges.
thestringpuller: the NDS makes it worse cause the two processors running on the thing run at different clock speeds
thestringpuller: on the gameboy if you interrupt during and interrupt you get undefined behavior
thestringpuller: I figured so when using them in academia.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: i'd say it cannot.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?
phf: !up thestringpuller
ascii_field: not hard to see the up-sides. by the time corpse turns up, it is in a condition where - even if someone were inclined to investigate (and who wants to be next corpse?) nothing could be said.
ascii_field: for some reason, knockout drug + rope appears to be the favourite usg method for dispatching troublesome folks
ascii_field: placed by persons unknown, targeted more than 100 top officials, including then Prime Minister...'
ascii_field: '...he went inside his brother’s apartment and saw Costas hanging from a rope tied to pipes above the lintel of his bathroom door, an old wooden chair nearby. He and his mother cut the rope and laid Costas down on the bed. The day before his death, Costas’ boss at Vodafone had ordered that a newly discovered code — a powerful and sophisticated bug — be deactivated and removed from its systems. The wiretap,
assbot: Did a Rogue NSA Operation Cause the Death of a Greek Telecom Employee? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEJtfF )
ascii_field: https://theintercept.com/2015/09/28/death-athens-rogue-nsa-operation << from the ministry of nailgun
ascii_field: '...He mutters passwords 'neath his breath, And other things he'll quote ---- / They surely had an evening's work when father rode the goat.'
ascii_field: 'We leave the big piano shut and do not strike a note; / the doctor's been here seven times since father rode the goat.'
ascii_field: and 'riding the goat' is what, not absurd ?
phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 21:34:31; phf: "You? Impossible! A mason?" "A mason," I replied. "A sign," he said, "a sign." "It is this," I answered, producing from beneath the folds of my roquelaire a trowel.
ascii_field: if you ask'em they might even say they invented wheel, fire, structured programming, etc
jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
trinque: I recall my grandfather saying they weren't much more than a social club at the time I was asking
phf throws hat and the ground and dances mazurka
phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice
ascii_field: and yes they recruit
ascii_field: jurov: the masons.
jurov: cargocult? what did they imitate?
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s << They still recruit.
trinque: I have a grandfather's freemason pin on a jacket; he was about that age when he passed away
ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s
ascii_field: btw the masons - at least the ones that can be met with in usa - are perhaps the ultimate cargo cult.
ascii_field: (approx. 'yid-masons.' the equivalent of 'illuminati' in ru blog varietyspeak)
jurov waits till alf encounters the khazar mafia link
BingoBoingo: jurov: Comparable in the sense sausage and turd may be compared as cylinders
ascii_field: jurov: but somebody gotta serve the folks who want to work with amero^H^H^H^Husg^H^H^Husc
BingoBoingo: Not all of Nasdaq, just some venture listed there
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu davout jurov: Look, now people are copying another MPEx tool, behold fake X.EUR https://archive.is/bTvNG
gribble: The operation succeeded.
funkenstein_: copypaste can confirm the story?
assbot: Mobile advertising DDoS JavaScript drip serves site with 4.5bn hits • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZmT4P )
funkenstein_: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/28/mobile_malvertiser_ddos_javascript_drip_serves_site_with_45_billion_hits/ <-- more cannons
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny how things are set up. the faitful always mistake the butresses of their chosen as mere weakness of the flesh that they, true templars, will find the courage and rectitude to straighten out
phf: ascii_field: around the same time that they started focusing on iphone. in fact it looked like they were pulling the libraries one by one as custom iphone optimization were making their way in
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/6faf034ca9ce9ec0deda67bc8840f5d4/tumblr_nu5t8abUsh1uvvy5ro1_500.gif
phf: there was a period when apple was not this outright hostile to hackers. around 10.4-10.5 you could still rebuild darwin (i did it for a bit to work around the retarded execl argument list length limitations) or bsd user space from apple hosted source. even cocoa userspace had all kinds of hooks that you could use to customize the os, like inputmanager bundles
ascii_field: 'the car bomb exploded. the mechanic cursed and pulled on another wire. the car bomb exploded again, with greater violence. windows rattled, dogs barked. 'you definitely have a car bomb, sir, i can tell you that now!' he muttered.'
phf: around 2g/3g you still had "linux on iphone" projects and such. i think there was one project to recreate part of iphone stuck by combining opensource apple code and writing what's missing. this is of course long history.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in their imaginary universe, you took the money and ran in 2011, then came back N more times to somehow also take the money and run each.'
ascii_field: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Pwnage << correct. rsa.
mircea_popescu: i find it comedic that for all the "well documented" flaws of rsa, all these "take over the world" computing schemes fail to use ECC.
mircea_popescu: i thought you couldn't disable sip altogether ?
ascii_field: 'OS X users who depend upon unsigned KEXTs for extra functionality—be it third-party hardware with unsigned drivers or software like OSXFuse that depends upon unsigned kernel extensions—will have precisely two alternatives: stop using the applications or hardware until the developers provide signed KEXTs, or disable SIP altogether.' << hello winblows 7 !
mircea_popescu: so basically apple is the sony corp of america sorta thing mkay.
mircea_popescu: the cpu die ?
ascii_field: go drill it out of the die !
ascii_field: this is justified by the author as 'we don't want crapple to fix it too quickly'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: these are a very funny joke on their own. WITHOUT EXCEPTION all 'rooters' are closed-source gigantic blobs that do fuck-knows-what to the pnohe
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: these things are sop
mircea_popescu: but then again i never really owned a mac so whatevs.
ascii_field: and/or networked boxes 'upgrade' themselves at night.
ascii_field: as in 'no upgrade, proggies bought in the store won't run, latest Pnohe won't sync, etc'
phf: this is dr. strangelove level of problem solving right there
ascii_field: also betcha this will drive sales of hardware debuggerz through the roof.
assbot: OS X Flaw in the Wild Abuses Error Logging Function to Edit sudoers | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SET9Kh )
BingoBoingo: <phf> All kernel extensions must now be signed (and old methods for disabling kernel extension signing are gone). << lol, http://qntra.net/2015/08/os-x-flaw-in-the-wild-abuses-error-logging-function-to-edit-sudoers/
ascii_field: oh and they like to shuffle'em on updates
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: microshit had this for years. kernel is filled with boobytraps that cross-checksum each other, like any good malware
phf: "Attempting to inject libraries into system binaries will result in an error. Even trying to poke into a protected process with DTRACE will fail—probes that try to target protected processes will fail to match, and no interaction with the kernel will be visible, and protected memory space will be simply inaccessible. Not even LLDB will be useful. You won’t be able to invoke it on system processes, regardless of root privilege."
phf: "The inclusion of OS X default applications in the list [some list of SIP locations --phf] means that they inherit the same file system protections as any other SIP location—if you want to delete Mail.app because you only use your third-party mail application, you’re out of luck."
phf: SIP cannot be disabled from within the operating system, only from the OS X Recovery partition."
phf: "The end result is that in El Cap, root is no longer an account with effectively unlimited access to either the file system or to memory and running processes. SIP places kernel-level checks on root’s privilege that can only be bypassed by the kernel itself."
phf: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/os-x-10-11-el-capitan-the-ars-technica-review/8/ << oh boy mac os x new "System Integrity Protection"