ascii_field: ' ISIL stickers have been identified on memorials, highway signs, and other public
ascii_field: ianal, but the implication is 'no jail if you come home, but don't expect supplies or rescue if you're in a bind, or good pr'
mircea_popescu: who asked them ?
ascii_field: support, oppose, usg's golems work either way.
ascii_field: 'the US Government does not support US persons traveling overseas to combat ISIL.'
assbot: The Dangers of Traveling Overseas to Fight Against the Islamic State | Public Intelligence ... ( http://bit.ly/1OxIzSw )
mike_c: i don't even think it'll matter much longer. html5 will present all the necessary security holes you need in plain old html
mircea_popescu: yesterday i accidentallied a router. it only took on the third stomp tho.
jurov: From the author of "How to accidentally" bestseller!!1
ascii_field: then will not work.
mircea_popescu: "Browsers without javascript aren't supported by Foswiki out of the box. We once decided to assume that nowadays everybody should have access to a sufficiantly standard browser that implements javascript. Of course this was different 15 years ago when we still had to deal with IE6 and the like. But as almost all vendors constantly move forward in web standards. So we then decided to strip off the burden of having to su
mircea_popescu: why, so it can compete with... 500 other implementations ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck is wrong with them.
mircea_popescu: they improved it ?
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 19:28:30; jurov: http://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13812 today another chapter of "world goes to shit"
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2015#1299703 < would you also expect this was not the case even 10 years ago
shinohai: I don't doubt that a real FBI agent might say the same.
ascii_field: preferably smaller, cheaper, doesn't even need to see in all directions if you have 50 of them in the box.
phf: is this another one of those technical solutions for counterparty problem?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: board will not function. thermoconductive epoxy is electroconductive.
mircea_popescu: there's actual problems ripe for solving.
mircea_popescu: stop solving the sexy problems.
ascii_field: you drop a few in the crate.
mircea_popescu: who's gonna watch the cameras, moiety ?
ascii_field: cameraball is a hypothetical device consisting of sealed pyrex sphere with two fish-eye cameras inside. charged and addressed via induction coil. contains a certain amount of eeprom, signs each frame with rsa key, which is zeroed if the glass is penetrated.
ascii_field: then my cameraball.
ascii_field: but there is no reason anyone should be able to get inside the box without triggering the scram.
mircea_popescu: like, physically cut the races for impi or w/e bullshit.\
mircea_popescu: more importantly, how about some basic skuldulgery on the boards ?
ascii_field: still stuck with the misery of moving from host to host.
ascii_field: at any rate, the procedure i suggested is only half a solution. because it merely helps to establish the fact of the betrayal ('caught man-sized figure moving near cabinet, power lost in 3 seconds'; 'chassis lost power for 10 minutes, moves three metres' etc)
ascii_field: process, much as i am loathe to admit it, would have to involve an airplane and a trip to some godforsaken pesthole.
mircea_popescu: no, of the process.
ascii_field: as in, what to place in the crate ?
mircea_popescu: might is the mind killer.
mircea_popescu: i don't want to connect these, so infinity.
mircea_popescu: so the correct approach here would be for coloing boxes you personaly doctor and fedex to location ?
mircea_popescu: seems a little twisting the screw is in order. fine. how do we go about it ?
mircea_popescu: it turns out that this is not true : "commodified market" actually means that there is no market - you can either not have a server and think you don't have a server ; or else not have a server and think you have a server. those two, no third and sure as fuck no having servers.
mircea_popescu: so we decided more or less on a lark to phuctor/s.nsa server. on the general expectation that hey, "commodified market" means you get stuff and it works and forget about it.
mircea_popescu: this happens to be THE definition of runaway complexity.
mircea_popescu: where do you buy the motion sensors ?
ascii_field: ideally, you carry it to its resting place and arm the motion sensor personally.
mircea_popescu: but you gotta be physically there.
ascii_field: (configure the box, weld, deliver to pedestal)
ascii_field: one traditional method is the spot-welder school of thought.
mircea_popescu: how do you personally set up servers other than in physical proximity ?
ascii_field: i can't recall the last time i ssh'd to something which i did not either set up personally or know the keeper of in meatspace.
mircea_popescu: my browser is also a very configurable animal, and the configuration mostly results in blank pages and "your site can't be used" emails.
mircea_popescu: but you're still going to use what the server can use.
ascii_field: and, to the extent it is used as popularly imagined ('two parties with no prior relation') easily mitmable and impossible to use as intended even in principle.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 15:55:25; mircea_popescu: ematicians and the practitioners: an adversary can perform a single enormous computation to crack a particular prime, then easily break any individual connection that uses that prime."
mircea_popescu: and now even cars are too much for the socialist derp to afford. so make way for the much "better" bike!
mircea_popescu: hitler didn't want to go for this so they invaded germany to saddam hussein him.
mircea_popescu: iirc they had flying cars in the 20s, but then the socialists wanted to supress them and pretend like the street going car is the thing to get because that was all you can afford.
ascii_field: mno, grinding wheel is the new car
mircea_popescu: and bike is the new car.
mircea_popescu: in other b-a news : world infrastructure is shit. in all respects, at every turn, everything.
assbot: The Philippines Is Still Pissed Off That Canada Is Using It as a Giant Garbage Bin | VICE | United States ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFrrcb )
shinohai: http://www.vice.com/read/the-philippines-is-still-pissed-off-that-vancouver-is-using-it-as-a-giant-garbage-bin-vgtrn <<< Canada likes pollution
mircea_popescu: i guess we get to find out how american europeans are these days
ascii_field: or does fr refuse citizens the sacred freedom to pollute ?
davout: apparently that's the plan
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 17:27:51; mircea_popescu: oo-weak-to-try rapists want to be anonymous. Smart women write clickable articles about their sexuality for nothing, because what good are you if you can't make someone else money? Interesting to observe that the article's single suggested solution to cyberharassment is to reframe a criminal problem into a civil rights issue using a logic so preposterously adolescent that if you laid this on your Dad
mircea_popescu: anyway. im done with spamming ballas before i end up with his entire collected works in the log.
mircea_popescu: 'd backhand slap you right out of the glee club: "it discourages women from writing and earning a living online." Earning a living? From who, Gawker? Most of the women writing on the internet are writing for someone else who pays them next to nothing.
mircea_popescu: o-weak-to-try rapists want to be anonymous. Smart women write clickable articles about their sexuality for nothing, because what good are you if you can't make someone else money? Interesting to observe that the article's single suggested solution to cyberharassment is to reframe a criminal problem into a civil rights issue using a logic so preposterously adolescent that if you laid this on your Dad when you were 16 he
mircea_popescu: If Hess has made you wonder, hmm, maybe unrestricted anonymity is bad because it gives trolls too much power, then the system has successfully used her for its true purpose: brand it as bad, to you. She is unwittingly teaching the demo of this article, e.g. women in their 20s with no actual power looking to establish themselves, who are the very people who should embrace anonymity, not to want this: only rapists and to
mircea_popescu: and THEN they wanna be all "successful", or perceived as such, because hey, of the 5000 of them, one's necessarily gonna dribble in the general direction of future events by sheer happenstance - that's your successful dude!11
mircea_popescu: the funny thing about "groups advocating influentially in media they don't own or control" is that the famelic good for nothing hipsters propose that THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY. ie, being someone's cockpuppet is somehow worthy, whereas if trump writes "fuck you" in his own fucking magazine, that's somehow "not fair" and you know, of "lesser value".
mircea_popescu: your feelings-- but because criticism makes women want to be more private-- and the privacy of the women is bad. The women have to be online, they do most of the clicking and receive most of the clicks. Anonymous cyberbullying is a barrier to increasing consumption, it's gotta go."
mircea_popescu: Keeping in mind that actual stalking has never been dealt with in any significant way ever, the desire of a few female writers to curb online anonymity wouldn't be enough to get an @ mention, except that this happens to coincide with what the media wants, and now we have the two vectors summing to form a public health crisis. "Cyberbullying is a huge problem!" Yes, but not because it is hurtful, HA! no one cares about
mircea_popescu: nny Carcosa. On occasion what the activists think they want may happen coincidentally to align with what the system wants, and from that moment on they will be lead to believe they are making a difference, which means they're making money for someone else.
mircea_popescu: "The force for this change isn't coming from safety or ethics. Neither is it activism. If you see any group advocating influentially for change in a media they don't own or control, you can double down and split the 10s, the dealer is holding status and quo. No change is possible on someone else's dime, and if what looks like a supermodel approaches you with a microphone and a camera crew, you should run like she's Joh
ascii_field: mike_c: cars (at least as seen in usa) ~do~ shit on the street
shinohai: *they
mike_c: ascii_field: bicycles don't crap in the street.
mircea_popescu: nice wide sidewalks, and the biking nonsense is mostly in palermo (fucktard/ustard/libtard ghetto, where the diners have no service and the girls no sense of the cock.)
mircea_popescu: fuck the whole lot of them, but if im running into bikers on the sidewalk ima get hteir heads.
shinohai: I have a bike, but around here you just ride in the damned street. I only use mine downtown to *avoid* traffic
mircea_popescu: i suppose i looked enough like i was gonna fucking kill them on the spot that they bitched and ran off each time, but hot damned i regret not having fed one his wheel.
mircea_popescu: i occasionally ~used to~ have altercation with dumbass bike derps who not only were on the sidewalk but had the unmitigated audacity to ring their dumbass bell.
mircea_popescu: no but i fucking hate that shit. "you know what we'll do to fix the problem of dumbass cars encroaching on pedestrian everything ? we'll make cheaper cvasi-cars so all the dumbass hipsters who can't afford a car can still get in your way"
shinohai: There was a guy lived a few streets over that got locked up for throwing water-filled condoms at any Mexican that rode by his house on a bike.
mircea_popescu: argentina is pretty much the only place i've seen that has the sanity to cut bike lanes out of the street. everyone seems to always cut them out of fucking sidewalks.
shinohai: I suppose it never occurred to them to pray about it, leave it in God's hands and all.
davout: "The parking loss would place an unconstitutionally undue burden on people who want to pray, the church argues"
punkman: is it the Church of Hamplanets?
assbot: D.C. church says a bike lane would infringe upon its constitutional ‘rights of religious freedom’ - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Msc4PA )
mircea_popescu: much to everyone's feigned surprise, ITS THE STANDARDS, STUPID.
mircea_popescu: ematicians and the practitioners: an adversary can perform a single enormous computation to crack a particular prime, then easily break any individual connection that uses that prime."
mircea_popescu: "For the nerds in the audience, heres whats wrong: If a client and server are speaking Diffie-Hellman, they first need to agree on a large prime number with a particular form. There seemed to be no reason why everyone couldnt just use the same prime, and, in fact, many applications tend to use standardized or hard-coded primes. But there was a very important detail that got lost in translation between the math
mircea_popescu: yeah, im totally ultra-sure bitcoin cares about all the particular way people who got their egos wounded by it misunderstand or misrepresent it.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Malleability, stress-tests and other Bitcoin problems. << "me being fat, stupid, and other problems of reality"
mircea_popescu: sec had nothing to say on the topic.
mircea_popescu: it's the thing.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, time for the monthly ddos trilema exercise in futility ?
shinohai: LAWL >>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/14/illinois_lottery_short_on_cash_starts_paying_ious.html
jurov: "For the most common strength of Diffie-Hellman (1024 bits), it would cost a few hundred million dollars to build a machine, based on special purpose hardware, that would be able to crack one Diffie-Hellman prime every year."
davout: either extremely stupid, or subtly trolling /r/buttcoin
assbot: Malleability, stress-tests and other Bitcoin problems. AMA : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiHE8H )
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3oqmzc/malleability_stresstests_and_other_bitcoin/
punkman: I think I should make a little script that does the reverse, if you have js turned on, it deletes all the page contents
davout: punkman: wow, the foundation vs. inc thing does sound scammy as fuck. in addition to the business model itself that is :D
punkman: shinohai: well if you go for it, here's a starting point http://blog.factom.org/post/113836562744/announcing-the-factom-software-sale
BingoBoingo: There's a lotta scamception here, yes
punkman: so I guess first token sale was done by the "Foundation", then "Inc" sold some more tokens and equity
BingoBoingo: Or some other sort of inbreeding
BingoBoingo: There's subtleties to this mess
punkman: https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2087/_factom-inc-bringing-the-blockchain-to-business.html
punkman: BingoBoingo: the "1500 software purchasers" refers to buyers of their token sale, not the equity sale
BingoBoingo: But yeah. Easy way for someone who wants to test their outrage organ to try a qntra.
davout: so basically the first crowdsale scam is used to pimp the financial reports of the company, in order to pull off the second scam, the the seed round
BingoBoingo: davout: Crowdfunders got converted to vaporware "software licensees" not really urgent or important. Just opportunity for anyone who wants to try sharpening their vitriol.
funkenstein_: well then those are some gross sales
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Story is what happened to the crowdfunders...
funkenstein_: "For the 9 months ended 30 September 2015 Factom had gross sales of US$628,337 (resulting in a trading loss of US$358,142 for the period). "
davout: "when it completes its anticipated Series A funding in the first half of 2016." <<< sure.
davout: punkman: aka "the dangers of getting asian stuff inked"
assbot: Pay No Attention to the Server Behind the Proxy: Mapping FinFisher’s Continuing Proliferation - The Citizen Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1MDdmMh )
punkman: might as well be "viral marketing" from the studio that runs that
davout: kept relating it to other flavors of stupidity while reading it
BingoBoingo: Their chem http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2012/10/17/zafgens_epoxide_adventure
BingoBoingo: "The first beneficiary of the foundation, Dorsey said via Twitter, would be Ferguson, a city that he visited during the unrest that followed the August 2014 fatal shooting of Michael Brown, 18, by police Officer Darren Wilson."
BingoBoingo: Oh, look what third world shithole will be the beneficiary of Twitter-Payments Edition's IPO http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ferguson-could-be-beneficiary-of-square-public-offering/article_353be58d-0e55-58b1-881d-94da6ad52e07.html
BingoBoingo: Low hanging, yet not particularly urgent fruit for anyone who wants to try their hand at a qntra
asciilifeform is mildly curious re: whether this flavour of nonsense even pretends to physically exist, as product, or is straight bezzle laundry
asciilifeform: ed among multiple parties. The validation and verification tools let the client audit these transactions in real time or run more sophisticated business process analysis of systems in the future.'
asciilifeform: 'Factom's software allows companies to maintain a permanent, time-stamped record of their data tied to blockchains, reducing the cost and complexity of conducting audits, managing records, and complying with government regulations. n the financial services industry, Factom tools let customers build transparent accountability systems for the financial industry, helping clients build immutable records that can be synced and shar
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : cargo cult is what savages / pacific islanders / subhuman monkeys do as a reaction to exposure to actual hjuman beings and their civilisation.
asciilifeform: pretense how? is the refrigerator box a hobo lives in a pretense of a house ? or merely the only house he can afford
mircea_popescu: in the pretense.
asciilifeform: but where's the 'ustardation' ? all i see thus far is poverty
mircea_popescu: not really too much to tell. buncha old dudes who couldn't really afford to live in the states [to their expectations], hitting the casinos and the 5 foot nothing whores of san jose.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 00:28:18; mircea_popescu: heck, the fucking "expat" group in costa rica had it./
mircea_popescu: but I know who they hired.
mircea_popescu: but you know WHO they hired.
mircea_popescu: "we don't care what the unknown animal sounds like. what does it eat ?"
mircea_popescu: "If you ever do find yourself working for a startup, here's a handy tip for evaluating competitors. Read their job listings. Everything else on their site may be stock photos or the prose equivalent, but the job listings have to be specific about what they want, or they'll get the wrong candidates." << this is actually very much correct.
BingoBoingo: Or anyone else who wants to cut their teeth on a qntra story?
BingoBoingo: Oh, nubbins` the celebrity is back
asciilifeform: recall the crashing flashlight ?
mircea_popescu: this is trivially understood either through geometry or high physics. there are fewer things than you can write equations for.
mircea_popescu: so - efficient markets, yes. but only if markets. and there's no guarantee everything you imagine can be a market.
mircea_popescu: when they can be compared, z80 loses. where they be meaningfully compared, common ground breaks down.
mircea_popescu: it's a very plain statement that dunning-kruger, and consequently, the reward for being not an idiot is not accessible in idiot terms.
mircea_popescu: but if there's one criticism that can not be put at the feet of the scholasticis, it is superficiality.
mircea_popescu: in a very amusing (to me) twist, this is actually in the fucking patristics (the wanna-be mishnah of xtianity). "your reward be not of this world" etc.
mircea_popescu: if multiverse, and if in ALL possible verses picking a on X quesdtion results in annihilation, this means exactly nothing. the a pickers aren't in any way different from the non-a pickers.
mircea_popescu: in aother formulation.
mircea_popescu: things are only meaningful to those capable to perceive meaning, and this ALREADY means not-them.
mircea_popescu: they'll die anyway.
asciilifeform: or my personal favourite 'cockroaches will inherit the earth'
mircea_popescu: the idiot can not lose, because by the time he's lost he's gone. where's the neobee schmuck ?
asciilifeform: as per the 'infinite hitpoints' article from mircea_popescu's www, aha
mircea_popescu: i'm still here, they as individuals are not. but they as group are still here. perhaps to outlast me.
mircea_popescu: ofcourse they were gonna win etc.
mircea_popescu: yes the people that won won. but this means nothing in context.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they never do. that's the problem. by the time the war is lost, the people who lost it are dead. that's the thing.
mircea_popescu: which is just another restatement of "people are insane" which is pretty much the oldest observation in the book that everyone keeps restating self-importantly and lo, it's voltaire! it's nietsche! it's existentialism! it's your grandmother vigin! etgc
asciilifeform: except where they do.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem of reality is that for things to work, things don't actually have to work.
mircea_popescu: so then.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with this, yes ? the romans kept going "why would someone farm when he could heroicly steal women and shit ?!?!?!"
asciilifeform: incidentally, for the two kinds of dope picked for this comparison, the packaging and distribution costs dwarf the actual cost of producing the pill
asciilifeform: this is handy for the present day but does not explain how the pieces on the board got to where they are
mircea_popescu: go, put z80 on the list.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of, "put on provision slip, sign, costs nothing"
assbot: Chez Cocus, or the Argentinian Chorus on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhCREx )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform $5 does not describe the price.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc he went to work as an exeprty in fucking teens for the fbi afterwards.
asciilifeform: re: previous thread: i get the hypothesis, but it falls apart re: z80 specifically. as it is... still made. and is about $5 in qty.
mircea_popescu: speaking of nothing related, anyone recall the original patrick naughton trial ? compuserve exec, flew to La to meet a 40yo FBI agent that had been posing as a 13 yo girl in a dads&daughers sex chatroom. hung jury : all women voted to convict ; all men voted he;s innocent.
mircea_popescu: in the world where women cook as a matter of course, cooking is MORE EXPENSIVE than in the world where cooking would be "absolutely" less expensive but women would kill themselves if you allowed them in a kitchen
deedbot-: [Trilema] Chez Cocus, or the Argentinian Chorus - http://trilema.com/2015/chez-cocus-or-the-argentinian-chorus/
mircea_popescu: there isn't this "absolutely" .
mircea_popescu: consider home cooking. it is ABSOLUTELY the cheapest way to feed a fambly.
mircea_popescu: it's not that "no one is tooled for it". it's that theyre not TOOLABLE for it. and if they WERE, it'd be expensive.
asciilifeform: i don't see anything in the structures that would suggest a substantial difference in cost per kg.
BingoBoingo: Sure, but they switch around condom brands
mircea_popescu: it still fucks the same dude every night.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo these aren't different.
mircea_popescu: in the very lowest sense of it all. cheaper in adp terms.
mircea_popescu: no. cheaper to make these than those. cheaper to prescribe them. cheaper to take them.
asciilifeform: to make the pill? nope.
asciilifeform: cheaper to manage the depressives ? certainly
mircea_popescu: \that's the considerationb here.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but they only did that because it was accessible.
asciilifeform: usg would rather have a herd of depressives than manics, yes
BingoBoingo: Depakote was popular because drug companies made conditions for the insurance companies to pay for it.
mircea_popescu: the downers just make people stfu and sit down.
mircea_popescu: see, the uppers risk cascading.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not really the case here. petrochem had equally easy time pouring out dopaminergics as it does neuroleptics
mircea_popescu: the "regulators" had 0 to do with it. while the refinery process poured out diesel fuel, you were gonna run diesels.
asciilifeform: there ~were~ dopaminergics.
asciilifeform: much the same as that of sov психушка
mircea_popescu: fundamentally, they're exactly driven by this tecxh
asciilifeform: but i will note the overall ~direction~ of usg psychiatry.
mircea_popescu: and the entire "everything wrong is really wrong with the brain" ie "not criminality but imbalance" so on and so forth are only superficially an ideology matter, ie "humanism" run amok us style.
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously, "antiepileptics for everything" aka "everything to do with the brain will be fixed by fucking with these neurotransmitters" comes from exactly this fertile field.
mircea_popescu: heck, the fucking "expat" group in costa rica had it./
asciilifeform: btw 'bipolar as kindled [as per 1950s theory of epileptic fit origins] disease' comes entirely from one thing:
mircea_popescu: wherever there's two ustards, there's ustardation, aka this sort of narcisiac neurosis.
mircea_popescu: has 0 to do with pharma. where usg goes, the usg.problems go.
mircea_popescu: That's how an entire nation of psychiatrists could have been deluded into prescribing Depakote for maintenance when the data itself says not to do it. It's belief, not money, "we believe bipolar is a kindled disorder..." Hell, if Harvard believes it, what chance do the rest of us have?"
mircea_popescu: The money isn't corrupting him into thinking childhood bipolar is underdiagnosed-- he truly believes it. The reason he believes it is his entire professional existence-- his whole identity-- is predicated on believing it. He's not a scientist, he's a priest.
mircea_popescu: "If Biederman never existed, nothing would be different. You read his resume, you think, wow, he's a big player. You don't realize that if he didn't exist there would be some other person in his exact position, who would also have become a Distinguished Professor, won awards, written 450 publications, etc. The machine was already in place, his slot was going to get filled; his mind didn't discover anything, those re
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/07/academics_hide_drug_company_pa.html << this shit is so on point...
mircea_popescu: reagan didn't have the mandate to send the airline union packing. it went packing. roosevelt had no mandate to confiscate people's currency, or to redefine currency, or to fuck up the justice system.
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 23:25:18; ben_vulpes: obama doesn't actually have the mandate to negotiate; subtle fact of us presidency that most outsiders (and usians) miss.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2015#1299079 << and the american husband doesn't have the mandate to put wife on knees. of course he doesn't, except if he takes it, in which case he does. because this is kinda how this shit works.
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 23:10:19; pete_dushenski: wtf is this 'irrespective of their cognitive abilities' nonsense ? as if everyone in the world were equally stupid, and therefore equally intelligent, and therefore had equal rights and so on and so forth ?