mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300253 << very easy to challenge. "you want these keys back ? pay up."
fluffypony: well lots of people told him at the beginning that those guys were dodgy
deedbot-: [Trilema] The "Christian Europe" and other aberrant notions - http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/
mircea_popescu: whether it's 300 million strong or just in one retired engineer's head, the same damned vocabulary, style and grammar.
mircea_popescu: to me this strictly means that the methods "of government" are merely the methods of educated stupidity, there's nothing else there. whenever a stupid part of one's worldview tries to avail itself of the power justly earned by other parts to maintain itself, you got a government talking. and it talks the same way EVERY TIME.
mircea_popescu: obviously i refuse this approach, but note the method for chrissakes. 2011, in obscure language, on obscure topic nobody gives a shit about.
mircea_popescu: stian something and german technology is best" etc, moves on to proposing that i am trying to diminish the importance of x. ie, he is proposing that i accept the form of his argument (xtianity matters) and debate the conclusions, in his terms.
mircea_popescu: perhaps vaguely interesting to asciilifeform : in the comments of the original article (see http://trilema.com/2011/europa-crestina-si-alte-aberatii/#comment-71835 etc) a very familiar mechanism is at work : christian dude (who is otherwise a very clever, and well respected, commenter there), after exhausting the attempts to plead to authority ("oh you aren't qualified to discuss ; oh merkel is from a party called chri
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The "Christian Europe" and other aberrant notions on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHouaN )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabrielradio http://trilema.com/2015/the-christian-europe-and-other-aberrant-notions/
assbot: 0 results for 'The Last Psychiatrist anal' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=The+Last+Psychiatrist+anal
shinohai: !s The Last Psychiatrist anal
mircea_popescu: as to why not anal, firstly because you're probably too young and you'll move suddenly and jerkily like too young people do and hurt her ; and secondly because you live in the sticks and will give yourself an uti because you can't afford condoms ; and thirdly because you'e insane and who the fuck knows what nonsense you'll do with it (the us porn people are a fine example with their anal desinfectants and bleaching and
mircea_popescu: there you go shinohai.
mircea_popescu: but in more granular terms, anal is necessarily less stimulating than vaginal simply because the ass is a U whereas the vagina is a /\. only one of these is designed to give the penis the sort of stimulation it expects, ie, crescendo. or in other words : no cervix in the colon, and no constrictive muscular reaction to protect an absent cervix in the colon muscles.
mircea_popescu: they're respectively even tighter and even more stimulating.
mircea_popescu: moreover, if tighter and/or more stimulating were the point, why not fuck the keyhole / the hot plate.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300170 << neither of these is particularly true, ftr. on one hand, ass can dilate to about six inches diameter in mostly all humans ; whereas it's true that cunt can dilate to eight or above, this is besides the point, god help you if your cock is over two.
shinohai: "On the merits of Anal Intercourse." by mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: "why anal ?" is in the same vein as "why go to school". because, obviously, "whoever likes me will like me for me as i am!!1"
mircea_popescu: ask every annoying woman that you know whether she habitually engages in anal sex, be surprised at the universal absence of the behaviour.
mircea_popescu: the interesection between neurotic women and women that take it in the ass with some regularity is practically nil.
shinohai: I mean, he's up there where it's boring all the time. Maybe he doesn't know what great fun it is to snort heroin off a tranny's cock.
shinohai: Ok, so if your body is a temple for worshiping god, then you want god to have a good time, ammi rite?
BingoBoingo: Nah, it is more like a "blue life" whatever the fuck that is, but apparently billboards are telling me nao that blue lives matter
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Swallowing cum though supports female fertility in a way that is tied to the specific man cumming
BingoBoingo: I think I might be broken on a fundamental level. Or maybe I'm drunk naked and cold and ought to close the windows...
BingoBoingo: punkman: I'm trying to bring low-s signing to 0.5.x and 0.7.x but the existing shit is in a worthless different fucking language.
kakobrekla: >at least we have bugs because it means that we're doing something, we're actually innovating whereas a lot of our competitors don't have bugs because they don't change
cazalla: here, not reddit, not an attack, just saying having read daily for what, a year now, gets a bit much, spring is in full swing and summer on the way, have a toddler to play with, need to find a full job again, something gotta give i guess, the whole bitcoin thing is something i just want to pack up in a box and look at again in a year
cazalla: punkman, been a daily thing for almost 3 years for me, just grown tired of it and the conversations about it past few months, i'm not saying "bitcoin is dead" just that i'm tired of talking/reading about it after this long, feel like going to do something else for 6-12 months and looking at it then after a break
HeySteve: I'd rather have cheaper coffee than a richer online experience but that's just me
HeySteve: Dear Steven, Thank you for your enquiry around the Fold app. We are not currently looking at virtual currency apps as we are focused on creating a local Starbucks app that will bring a richer online experience to our customers. Thank you for your interest. Regards, Diana
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Well, our news child is now a toddler. Imma just trying to get the village involved in its raising
BingoBoingo: Basically only US legal because the scamception involved lets league stakholders pass it off to congress as a "skill game" and not gambling even though it is scammy gambling
HeySteve: I don't really know the other meaning. people run a pretend league based on real teams and players?
BingoBoingo: I am abou to pass out and I have a 'different' perspective on that bezzel would like to see others.
BingoBoingo: pete_duskenski has been great with this as has thestringpuller, this thing is here, for some definitions of queer it is that, and it isn't going away anytime soon
BingoBoingo: Qntra is exactly the way people who can't speak BTC++ can contribute to understanding the BTC ecosystem and, I would really appreciate more submissions on various fiat brokeness seen.
punkman: BingoBoingo: I'm not terribly informed on the situation, but I think I'll do a followup soon
BingoBoingo: punkman: The particular scamcoin failing is not quite news, but a mechanistic documentation of why this one is failing is news.
punkman: BingoBoingo: well as you said, not sure if it's news. especially considering there's a dozen or three Ether clones with same exact story
BingoBoingo: punkman: There's actually lot of potential for ruin. What I want to know is how people can take that attitude towards risk and not find writng for qntra appealing
BingoBoingo: So far October has been an frustratingly boring part of Bitcoin. I am worried though that Qntra is crossing into its second year and people don't want a giftwrapped chance to write a first story. Is qntra insufficiently established or does this seem too much of a trap. I the cost of fucking up in #b-a seeming too high? I am confused.
HeySteve: I did follow the chat a bit. something about early adopter / investor shares being converted to something else, now an IPO?
BingoBoingo: punkman: at some point the greek in you will force you into poetry or sodomy
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: I don't hava a handle on it. I'm not sure it is news at all. It is scam on many levels. My only reservation and the source of my disinterest is... I'm not sure actual people are affected
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: I am actually more than a tiny bit disappointed that I drop for the crowd a vagina that could queef qntra shares to the extent someone is willing to solidly pump it and... the interest is low
HeySteve: I did question the folks opening up Starbucks about whether they'll accept the Fold app as in like 10 other countries
BingoBoingo: punkman: Because honestly. Actual people aren;t losing their shirts on this. Great chance though for marginally people to work towards becoming actual people by demonstrating a knowledge of how the scamception works.
punkman: BingoBoingo: why not write it then?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I went to sleep and woke up only to be on the precipice of sleep again. Are you actually considering this or do you want competition?
BingoBoingo still amazed that the fluffy gene when expressed is a defect in any breed of dog
HeySteve: Talisman eh? haven't met him but berndj is another saffa
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: My brother's latest dog, likely far fluffier than you or any extant equine
fluffypony: there are like...THREE of us here!
HeySteve: it's also possible to open the arbitration to a jury of sorts through hierarchial multisig
HeySteve: if the scheme takes off, it's also a way for honest landlords to attract tenants by declaring their compliance to a standard
HeySteve: good question. for a dishonest landlord, there are only disincentives. for an honest one, I'm still considering... obvious option is to require a larger deposit
HeySteve: thanks, that's good information. here it's also required that the deposit be kept in an interest bearing account, which adds another wrinklle
HeySteve: and the fiat-pegged assets with multisig which BTS allows "out the box" will help keep things simple for the public and myself alike
punkman: UK gov does escrow for rental deposits these days
HeySteve: right, well my idea is to escrow the rental deposit
punkman: sure, they overcharge. how does bitshares help?
HeySteve: punkman, it varies. often they overcharge for minor damages or make a point of being absent when the tenant is required to return the keys
BingoBoingo: The way though to actually beat rental fraud is allodial title and an army
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Bitshares is more looked down on for its nature than its applications, not quite, but close to Ether uffing hate
HeySteve: when a landlord retains a tenant's rental deposit without justification. very common around the world and hard to challenge legally
BingoBoingo: Stuff already news'd that you have a smart commentary on is an opening you have that not many others do.
BingoBoingo: It is an offer of the sort open to a lot of people in varying degrees. To you it is especially open.
HeySteve: ok excellent, thanks for the offer and I'll certainly take you up on it if and when I find a good story
HeySteve: an angle rather
HeySteve: and yeah, I left CCN before the Garza scandal broke
BingoBoingo: I don't remember you writing for the other place since qntra was born, gotta have that blue balls
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: I know its been a while since you've abandoned writing for the now collapsing CCN rag. Ever given a serious though to qntra writing?
BingoBoingo: Alcohol is what makes me so manly I beat the bouncers who wanted to kick me out of forlorn sports bar last Saturday. (I beat them by getting a block and a half lead)
bagels7: alcohol messes up my hormones and is probably what got me fat in the first place
trinque is hitting the gym 4 times a week; what's this "can't help it"
BingoBoingo: bagels7: Maybe focus on staying human sized? As a t-girl that is the bulk of your value proposition, not being an obeast.
bagels7: He slashed the tired of my bike and the cops put him in jail because [...] I hate alcoholism
bagels7: I'm a good whore because no matter what you do you should do it well, moreover is it not the will of god
ben_vulpes: how is the ol' moneymaker tonight?
BingoBoingo: But if we are merely considering a potentially viable womb all of a sudden 2/3 of the Mayogendered will plead fertile
BingoBoingo: Lots of ways to prime brian in the skull's creativity
BingoBoingo: Maybe drugs, maybe dehydrated fasting spirit trip in the woods
BingoBoingo: (Under the immune modulation theory oral sex is never actually technically sodomy for promoting conditions favorable to pregnancy)
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 01:11:05; shinohai: God only wants you to have sex if it is explicitly for the act of procreation, or so I have been led to believe.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: But if got ideas go ahead an dump them here
mircea_popescu: "why not call the natural history museum, offer them the first horse with a collarbone."
BingoBoingo imagines cloaca creation surgery becoming popular in USia in the coming decades
mircea_popescu: one of the better jokes in veterinary school, head prof goes in eager beaver pathology class, "i'll put one case to you boys... suppose my horse gets a fractured collar bone. what do you do ?"
BingoBoingo: I mean they even all only have cloacas
mircea_popescu: (execuytive summary - guy who ended jefferson's idea of agriculture and planted the seeds for hfcs in every meal)
gribble: Earl Butz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Butz>; The infamous quote that revealed Earl was a bigoted Butz-hole…: <http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2009/09/earl-butz-three-things-loose-shoes.html>; Earl Butz Mouths Off - Rolling Stone: <http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/rolling-stones-biggest-scoops-exposes-and- (1 more message)
shinohai: The "loose shoes" comment reminds of a very racist joke, kek
mircea_popescu: if i had to guess - and i can do no better than guess, da fuck i know - i'd imagine the celebrated "what a nigger wants is loose shoes, tight pussy and a warm hole to shit in" is a lot closer to what that guy [pars pro toto] wants than "masturbation that looks like work".
mircea_popescu: ballas decides "the guy is narcissist". this is about as clever as discussing the rotator splint of wild geese. "hey, they're flying, right ? gotta have rotator splint, it's what you call the collar bone"
mircea_popescu: there is in point of fact nothing objectively wrong with honor killings, all sorts of pretense to the contrary notwithstanding. if you can get your hands around her neck you can strangle her. or not. your option. reality has both functions loaded and ready to go and return;
mircea_popescu: usian is very taken aback at the both common and perfectly reasonable [in its context] practice of killing young women that get out of line.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: "My daughter deserved to die for falling in love" ... ( http://bit.ly/1G8xzZ2 )
mircea_popescu: well, take for instance http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/05/my_daughter_deserved_to_die_fo.html
asciilifeform: the not-being...
mircea_popescu: NOT being guilty of that probably scores you high for psychopathy or some shit, because that's the thing with socialization : being a very far outlier in your environment, even if you are right by some measure, still makes you a very far outlier.
shinohai: Do you know how many people, at least in my area, absolutely refuse any type of introspection. Then my statement might not seem so out of place.
mircea_popescu: this is like "earth is carbon based so species there are probably breathing oxigen and retaining water" "i'm guilty of that". doh ?!
mircea_popescu: word. wants a) masturbation but b) that looks like work. there, el consumidor, fully described.
mircea_popescu: "Reality is too boring, and world events too complex, too overwhelming, and, frankly, too not about me. We want entertainment, diversions, that look enough like social policy analysis that we don't feel too guilty discussing them ad nauseum. We want masturbation that looks like work. "
shinohai: God only wants you to have sex if it is explicitly for the act of procreation, or so I have been led to believe.
shinohai: "But simultaneously, the act of reinterpretation changes us." <<< No shit. Read the instruction manual for #b-a and see how you feel about bitcoin in 6 months.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 0.8 had the big blockchain handling change yes, but 0.8 to 0.9 transition had mega refactoring
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Recollections Of Your Parents Before And After You Have Children ... ( http://bit.ly/1X82rxd )
mircea_popescu: "The women with depressed, unhelpful husbands did not report lower levels of marital satisfaction; rather they were maintained at high levels. One interpretation of our data was that the women's more negative memories of their fathers served the function of minimizing (or denying) their husbands' failure to be as helpful as needed. If this is all that can be expected of men, then I can no longer recall my father so po
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the overarching picture in my mind is that bitcoin would scarcely look any different if it had been designed by вредители << It gets worth Anytime I look at something interesting comparing between 0.5-0.7 and 0.9 and later at some point Gavin has refactored every fucking thing into a different retarded language that is precisely NOT the Bitcoin dialect of C++
asciilifeform will be more excited after the checkmate
mircea_popescu: "you set the chess table any way you want and it's checkmate in 3."
mircea_popescu: "you design and build the battleships and whatever else you feel like doing anyway you want to - we'll beat you to shit with them."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no see, that's the beauty of it. yes that's right, and it never occured to me before that could be a good thing.
mircea_popescu: i mean yes, it DOES seem to be simply miserable typing in openssl, they have nfi what ints even are over there
asciilifeform: the overarching picture in my mind is that bitcoin would scarcely look any different if it had been designed by вредители
mircea_popescu: no see, i know that. but these are really bullshit answers obviously.
mircea_popescu: for that matter splitting a 31 bit paload in a 32 bit envelope into "odd/even" or "upper/lower" is, intuitively, the same damned thing. or should i say "from a theoretical, numeric persepective". why does it make a difference ?
mircea_popescu: why is there an unused byte ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is a 'don't care' value, one bit's worth. the proposed tweak abolishes it.
mircea_popescu: its not that i suspect the holy grail is spirited there. i just don't grok what it does is all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notice that the operation takes place after the act of signing properly speaking.
mircea_popescu: what i want to know is, what is the mathematical significance of narrowinfg the S space.
asciilifeform: anyway, as far as i can see the suggested tweak is harmless. who wants to write the patch, can.
asciilifeform: but yes, if you buried the tx-shooter in cement at the bottom of the mariana trench, it will suck
mircea_popescu: but you'd still have to do the transform.
asciilifeform: now if all you have is this kind of tx, you can trivially transform it into one that is legal per the patch linked earlier
mircea_popescu: maintaining backwards compatibility is one thing, maintaining backwards delusionality is another thing.
mircea_popescu: it'd be nice if that functionality was available. it eminently is not. tough and who doesn't like it knows how to get in the wot and start crac kin.
mircea_popescu: at no point was the promise made that one can rely on pre-loaded tx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this'd be: to nuke pre-loaded sigs (e.g., dead-man switch systems, or otherwise secreted.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a theory re: one possible reason why enemy might be interested in altering sig format
asciilifeform: so what i actually sat down at the console to say was...
asciilifeform: and this is the 4th or so, on my end, in 3 days.
mircea_popescu: on github. the thing is social media for derps. they comment because their food is late, there.
mircea_popescu: so in that sense... if there's a superclass fix, and we find it, good. if not, entrenching around this seems a waste of time.
mircea_popescu: but the way which, whether it delegitimizes anything or not, nevertheless serves bitcoin, to do the switch, is by making sure that the proposed solution actually is a good solution for the proposed problem. there's a lengthy history of narrow, poorly tho9ught out, unreviewed and borderline nonsensical "solutions" that had to be reforged and then re-reforged, even 3-4-5 passes.
mircea_popescu: in any case, i see little value in the political thinking proposed. im not even sure it's all that political.
mircea_popescu: o hey not bad, guy gets to go to costa rica hang out with the other lamers on "what's left after divorce" budget
mircea_popescu: the real time thing fails, ftr.
ascii_field: recall why i asked nubbins` for the book!
ascii_field: we already have the turdball
jurov: well, then we can end with turdball like gcc (due to rms' political reasons discussed here recently)
ascii_field: my point was that we do not want to be in the position of answering the enemy in real time.
ascii_field: jurov: if you recall, i began with a backport of the orphan fix
mircea_popescu: more importantly : the entire malleability / bip 62 / sipa chjanges (such as linked) are 2013 material.
ascii_field: if i had 'specifically' i would be submitting the patch now.
ascii_field: if this is an actual flaw, it ought to be fixed in a way which marginalizes and lowers into pederasty the phoundation, rather than legitimizes it.
ascii_field: for perhaps the first time, i remind mircea_popescu to think of the political, and not vice-versa
mircea_popescu: in any case : the actual significance of this switch in crypto terms could benefit from a review.
mircea_popescu: i dun see it's imposed by anything but the dubious quality of code writing employed throughout this project.
ascii_field: and into the holding pen.
ascii_field: nobody asked me, but letting the enemy spray his relevance-piss-pheromone on the thing is far more of a nuisance than the existing malleability.
BingoBoingo: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/a28fb70e45d764e558966ba3b02bd16e02b11c14 << What they point to as the introduction of low-s encoding
mircea_popescu: the idea is, at no point should it have made anything else anyway, at least as far as anyone knew.
BingoBoingo: The thing is does 0.5.X produce low-s transactions?
BingoBoingo: If widely deployed this change would eliminate the last remaining known vector for nuisance malleability on SIGHASH_ALL P2PKH transactions. On the down-side it will block most transactions made by sufficiently out of date software."
mircea_popescu: there is no inflation, if there it is two, maybe three years out at the earliest. This is massive deflation before your eyes, not even including the outstanding credit card balances and other personal loans which will never get paid, especially when the jobs start evaporating."
mircea_popescu: "I'm putting myself on the record (not that I haven't a dozen other times on this site):
mircea_popescu: did they ask more than 10 people (in texas) ?
mircea_popescu: "how to suck the cock" i would say.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if they're satisfied.
mircea_popescu: it probably served half the teens in romania by now, if numbers have any meaning.
ascii_field: and the 1st ?
mircea_popescu: that article is lulzy - it was the 2nd most read article each month since pretty much its publishing
gabrielradio: jurov, i think this is the one http://trilema.com/2012/cum-se-suge-pula-ghid-pentru-juma-de-sex-oral/ . next in line after the "what interests me in a project" one
mircea_popescu: now, if only they had sane people in charge, doling out those missed paycheques.
mircea_popescu: because near-everybody there, like everywhere, is also an imbecile.
ascii_field: but the present day crop of hobo is not evenly distributed, no.
mircea_popescu: to their great benefit.
ascii_field: anyway in usa it is a very simple matter, as described by herr orlov: near-everybody there is 2 or 3 missed paycheques away from hobo-dom.
ascii_field: perhaps. but my mind boggles at the picture of a hobo bush.
mircea_popescu: people love to assume that means "for the better", because it briefly did and people are idiots.
mircea_popescu: in the us, predicately, he is not like you.
mircea_popescu: you entertain the delusion that your child is like you, which is true in unmobile societies.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this is as interesting as computing the odds of being chinese.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : given that ~30 million americans are homeless AT ANY GIVEN POINT, and given that the life expectancy of the homeless is not terribly good, say 5-10 years, do compute the odds of your child being homeless during his lifetime kthx.
mircea_popescu: the executive difference being that you get sent to prison, but go to teh street.
ascii_field: i suppose this is some variant on the ru traditional 'prison is like the grave, can find room for everyone'
mircea_popescu: nobody asks the crack whore.
mircea_popescu: you'll be in contact with the street.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu does not appear to apprehend that it is in fact possible to have ZERO contact with 'the street'
ascii_field: the 'did not enjoy' feels more of a stretch.
ascii_field: 'it was not even enjoyable, as i smoked the pipe the only thing it was possible to think about is the next pipe'
ascii_field: subjectively, to the taker
mircea_popescu: until the septum ruptures you can't really spot the snorter. you really can't miss the crackhead.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the difference in cost is well-known. but what of effect ?
mircea_popescu: which is why the derrogatory is crack whore, not snortwhore
mircea_popescu: most whores do cocaine. just, the 20somethings that do lines go for about 5x the money of the 30somethings that do crack.
mircea_popescu: punkman i can tell you the difference. it's about $1k for half-and-half.
mircea_popescu: at some point the argument was that pot is a "gateway drug" for that matter. a sort of kindled theory of chem addiction i guess.
punkman: well I couldn't tell you the difference between powder, crack and freebase
jurov: gabrielradio: there's supposedly very popular guide to oral sex, maybe that one?
mircea_popescu: ok, you've seen it, but chipping heroin is one thing ; cocaine as powder and as crack is a rather different thing.
punkman: mircea_popescu: same with heroin, you start with a sniff, then move on to smoking and finally iv
mircea_popescu: punkman they do ?
gabrielradio: i spend a lot reading trilema, why not translate the ro articles while at it
punkman: at least the dedicated ones
shinohai: @ gabrielradio Are you the Romanian interpreter ?
mircea_popescu: "there's one so-called identified pathway and 500 non miscible so-called addictions. because this is Fantasia."
mircea_popescu: suppose your car can run on either water or gasoline.
ascii_field: No, it isn't, or else they would be using both, wouldn't they? << i don't follow the logic
mircea_popescu: "Ask a 20 year crack addict when was the last time they used powder cocaine. Do they miss it? Are they in withdrawal? "But crack is cocaine." No, it isn't, or else they would be using both, wouldn't they? "But crack is more potent and addictive." Then why don't cocaine adicts move over to crack? "
mircea_popescu: trilema mostly deals with the banal.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 20:35:08; mircea_popescu: "Eu nu am fost angajat niciodata, nicaieri." i can appreciate why you went "I've never been an employee, not to anybody, not anywhere." but really english is hemingwayan. "I've never been employed." is the way to go. less is more for the saxons.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2015#1299791 << who the hell ever heard of an employed ammonia-atmosphere-breathing dragon
gabrielradio: mircea_popescu i see. pretty straightforward, no meddling with the words
mircea_popescu: those guys srsly don't get enough credit, everyone stole all their shit.
mircea_popescu: "I've never signed payroll, I never held a paycheck, I've never seen the various small item salesmen visit the office on pay day nor have I ever asked for a payday loan. Wider, and more importantly, I never worked against my will. Not even as a kid, doing homework."
ascii_field: where, then, else ?
mircea_popescu: "Eu nu am fost angajat niciodata, nicaieri." i can appreciate why you went "I've never been an employee, not to anybody, not anywhere." but really english is hemingwayan. "I've never been employed." is the way to go. less is more for the saxons.
mircea_popescu: they understandably don't wanna be on the hook for every fucktard with a plane ticket.
mircea_popescu: oh there is that.