HeySteve: ah right, sure those are more but even if they're upgrading them it's still over-priced and outside contract
mircea_popescu: they're often in rental units because hey, "energy efficiency". i have to take them out every time.
mircea_popescu: no but i mean the "energy efficient" mercury dispensers.
HeySteve: the china cheapies are like $2.5 max
HeySteve: about competitors advertising deposit fairness, hope they will use this system I propose to enforce it.
mircea_popescu: well, if you don't know where it goes maybe it's legitimate ? maybe they actually spend ~1.1k after each tenant leaves, on average.
mircea_popescu: this is not in any sense related to the concept of bezzle.
mircea_popescu: what's this, the cia rental agency ?
HeySteve: lol there's plenty of those here, could tell some stories. but in this case of this agency who are more high end market, it's the expense of running a slush fund
mircea_popescu: which keep damaging the property.
mircea_popescu: what's a property manager spend money on anyway ?! they're all cash flow positive, that's the point.
mircea_popescu: specifically : there exist two classes of solutions and they both come from stakeholders in the problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if there's actually a problem agency you got there, the solution is either for the tenants to start an association/class action suit if you have them/whatever is the equivalent in the jurisdiction ; or else for a competitor to start advertising deposit fairness.
HeySteve: well, what happens in practice is the agency spends those funds and claims the rate is that low to disguise the fact
mircea_popescu: so you're saying a tenant taking a property with a market value of 120k for a year at the usual ~10% ie 1k a month is being gypped for the fabulous sum of 60 bux ? this can't quite be right can it ?
mircea_popescu: not really. you're offering them the opportunity to push up your venture for free on their own influence/dime. which they won't take - if they were the sort of derp to fall for that they'd be on reddit complaining about how they have no money and the landlord's scamming them.
HeySteve: competing for rich tenants, well I offer them the guaranteed return of their deposit without the hassle of litigation. courts may be effective in some cases but there's always legal risk and time costs involved.
HeySteve: <+mircea_popescu> no landlord makes a tidy living off scaming tenants. <- perhaps I should say, "make frequent bonuses." there's a rental agency infamous for it in SA and also a few private owners I could mention. it's also very common for them to not keep the deposit in an interest-bearing account by law or to skim the interest. from that same rental agency, tenants apparently get back
mircea_popescu: none of this will ever work in any sense, but if you play it right and get lucky might get you dinner with obama, which... i hear the food sucks and the table manners are worse, but then again they're not inviting me so it's all good.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not for me to change your mind. let me only suggest that once you get this business off the ground there's a ready avenue to expand : you could do the same for paycheck loans.
mircea_popescu: (and they can do A LOT of damage with that, many jurisdiction have the notion of problem landlord in some manner, and you can often get treble damages, heck in one case a guy i know got the landlord kicked out of town. as in, had to sell ALL his property and not buy there again, ever.)
mircea_popescu: seems dubious landlords compete for passive-agressive tenants with no options. they do compete for rich tenants, but you don't have a value proposition for those guys.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying the mcdonalds makes a tidy living off giving out wrong change.
HeySteve: also, landlords do compete for smart tenants with options, as as per pete's point 1. so here is an aspect other than lowering prices which owners can use to attract good tenants (who can appreciate the benefits of "no" custodial risk).
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, I understand your point. my gf agrees with you. I can make this better for property holders if tenants pay a double (or even triple) deposit, or perhaps I must think on further improvements. those making a tidy living off scamming tenants will of course never go for it, but a good-faith landlord might appreciate having more insurance against property damage / non-payment.
mircea_popescu: and the dispute isn't whether "You have them" or not, the dispute is whether you are one. because that's fundamentally what you're trying to do here, redistribute resources "for fairness" is how the government calls it, but you're neither a government nor have the option to be come one. at the level where you go into business, the thing is not a government but a gang.
mircea_popescu: the very POINT of holding property.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve the point is there's a big demand for such a service << yes, but the demand is from people who aren't willing to take any steps to enforce it. and it's for you to magically oppress property holders on their behalf. this isn't how property works, the fact that the landlords hold that property "free and clear" specifically means that they are immune from a guy named heysteve and his plans for the future. this is
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:23:33; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300279 << so a) you'll spend your life driving between bickering nuts. this is a worse deal than what psychs get, at least there you gotta drive to his office. ; b) the blockchain and everything else is entirely superfluous here. your entire idea is "hey, make me the mp of renting in south africa". maybe they will or maybe they won't but you really don'
HeySteve: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300465 < no driving involved, either a local rental agent will arbitrate (if necessary) or photo / video / expert testimony "evidence" will be uploaded somewhere to be judged
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:21:44; mircea_popescu: this "o noes we are opressed" talk is the stock in trade of the worthless class. for good reason.
HeySteve: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300464 < not trying to save African children with magic cryptos, the point is there's a big demand for such a service
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:19:58; mircea_popescu: and if he doesn't, well, twice the deposit worth of damage + whatever it costs him to break in should be just about fair.
HeySteve: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300458 < it's true that tenants can threaten to withhold keys and/or trash the place but if this was common practice then this type of deposit fraud wouldn't be such a widespread problem. what many tenants do is refuse to pay the last month's rent but this is only viable if the deposit is set at 1x month's rent. many places it's at 2x or
HeySteve: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300868 < yes indeed. wanted to ask you, as a landlord, if a larger deposit or possibly additional contract terms outside the paper rental contract would entice you to look at something like this
mircea_popescu: that in other times would have been your life.
mircea_popescu: once you buy into the theory that "the state isn't the CAUSE of criminality but the protection from it", you'll necessarily swallow the "science is the path to knowledge" string all the way into "paradigm good".
mircea_popescu: but the point stands. the only thing you can definitely say about a paradigm (kuhn sense) is that it has nothing to do with reality. the one thing people involved WISH to say is that it is the only basis upon which science can be produced. which happens to be true.
mircea_popescu: dead goes in the "kids, job, xanax, whatever" list.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his dns last changed in... sept. 2012. entirely possible that the man is dead.
mircea_popescu: i do believe him when he keeps saying he drinks a lot. he'd have to. the damage imbecile "social agreements" do to smart people.
mircea_popescu: but it's a lot more likely he just found something to shut the brain up with
mircea_popescu: one could hope that the reason he dropped off the map is because existential crisis finally triggered
mircea_popescu: haha. well, in truth the guy's politics are utterly indefensible.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this piece especially reads entirely like the вялотекущая шизофрения crap.
mircea_popescu: all it says is that a system of thought is ipso facto worthless, but hey, i can see why he prefers the counterfactual statement of it.
asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu unearthed tlp again... http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/02/the_rage_of_the_average_joe.html << exemplifies my least favourite aspects.
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 01:21:28; mircea_popescu: "the end which is so obvious and predictable but at the same time the only one that would speak to this generation of narcissists: when we need a hero, heroes are obligated to rise up and serve, but please have the decency to die afterwards so we can go back to second guessing the ethics of your actions. " >> and when "we" need a monkey that knows how to push the levers one has the moral obligation t
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2015#1301570 << not to mention the concentrated, unadulterated retardation of the original concept of hero as imagined by monkey - that is, a hypetrophied monkey who rescues, for no apparent reason, his fellows, from their own idiocy
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] How to suck the cock – a guide for half the oral sex, translated. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/17/how-to-suck-the-cock-a-guide-for-half-the-oral-sex-translated/
mircea_popescu: "The Economist, an excellent magazine which offers excellent analysis of complex political and economic questions, yet still manages to be on the wrong side of history every single time"
mircea_popescu: We got a brief moment of the possibility of 1980s style black and white American might with George Bush after 9/11, when half the country went, "hell yeah, let's go kick some ass!" and the other half went, "wait a second, don't you guys know we suck?" That being the full extent of our national dialogue. You see the results.
mircea_popescu: Well, the possibilities never came true, so heroes can all go to hell. And God, too, while we're at it, he didn't deliver either.
mircea_popescu: skills would be uploaded straight by God when needed, sudden and immediate, just as they came to JCVD in Bloodsport. Life is a movie and movies are only 90 minutes long. Not a whole lot of time for training.
mircea_popescu: What happened? I think the generation raised on action movies felt betrayed. Those movies promised possibilities, promised that when you grow up, your powers will kick in. When you grow up, if bad guys take over a bank, you'll be able to use kung fu on them. It seemed not to have occurred to anyone to learn actual kung fu, or look up how banks are typically laid out, where the alarms are-- just in case. No, these
mircea_popescu: ided of course he doesn't expect and in any case doesn't get any actual power over the derps through this.
mircea_popescu: "the end which is so obvious and predictable but at the same time the only one that would speak to this generation of narcissists: when we need a hero, heroes are obligated to rise up and serve, but please have the decency to die afterwards so we can go back to second guessing the ethics of your actions. " >> and when "we" need a monkey that knows how to push the levers one has the moral obligation to materialize, prov
mircea_popescu: faster, even faster than cheating wife stories, than detecting hypocrisy in the elites."
mircea_popescu: "This generation, this, The Dumbest Generation Of Narcissists In The History Of The World, they hate heroes-- except dead ones, they're ok, and superheroes are ok too, people with magic or from other planets-- but human heroes are anathemas, they want to tear them down and show them to be regular mortals, flawed-- and the best is if they can catch them being hypocritical, nothing brings an impotent narcissist to orgasm
mircea_popescu: but seriously, the libtards/hipsers actually need " People aren't seeing Eastwood play Walt; they are seeing The Man With No Name now aged 70 and living alone, still clinging to his horse, I mean gun, I mean car. That's the guy they want to see "grow," that's the guy they want to see admit he was wrong. " ?
mircea_popescu: im not about to see the movie, for one thing i never gave much of a shit about eastwood and for the other he certainly went to shit in his later life (what is with this, pacino doing incredibly bad bullshit a la simone and de niro doing the worst infomercial "movies" conceivable ?)
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: What Happens To An Action Hero When We Grow Up? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kh47Lp )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/12/what_happens_to_an_action_hero.html << whjahahahaha.
mircea_popescu: that book is useful to people ~with independent clincal experience~, even if it is read first, before the experience is actually had (on the expecation that it will sturcture the comparatively more expensive process of actual clinical exposure, thus gettiong more bang per buck)
mircea_popescu: it has a much deeper root. the problem with medical education is that your own body constitutes no clinical experience.
mircea_popescu: you know, the ancient "sophomore's disease", where young minds encountering the big book of medical semiology for the first time diagnose themselves with everything is not MERELY an amusing story.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck permits these imbeciles to pretend like they're faculty i have no idea.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Is An Hourglass Figure The Ideal? Only If You're Weak And Stupid ... ( http://bit.ly/1RORe1x )
mircea_popescu: "She can't understand why the ideal isn't the same as the average. So she wants to create reasons why the average is the ideal. " <<< Elizabeth Cashdan, woman in science.
mircea_popescu: o btw jurov how's the shaped slag coming ?
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2015 18:16:21; mod6: i just pulled down the new version of eulora btw. about to try to build it...
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://31.media.tumblr.com/16a00e455a901b84d37d76a6943715fc/tumblr_mkvmr00CjZ1s4dm6ao1_r1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: yes the result is directly equivalent with "enemies control the decision process at all points and at all levels". but the cause is much more pedestrian : the innate MISTAKEN belief that "anyone can make a summary".
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The CIA Has The Same Problem Medicine Does ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZMsTPa )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/11/the_cia_has_the_same_problem_m.html << if anyone was curious as to HOW blunders to the scale of "hussein has wmds" a decade ago or "assad used wmds" last year happen, and to the whys and wherefore bacalaureat-level educated folk such as obama, rice etc come up with ridiculous nonsense like "putin doesn't understand" or "nobody could have predicted", here is why.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
phf: (the program is at the end and worth the study to grok the meaning of the word "hack" before perl corrupted it)
assbot: 12.5.3. Branch Cuts, Principal Values, and Boundary Conditions in the Complex Plane ... ( http://bit.ly/1RODX8Z )
phf: i think canonical example of solving that sort of problems (i.e. generating command language from a higher level lisp solution) comes from cltl2 section on trig functions for complex values, where guy steele for whatever reason decided to include pretty graphs of function behaviors. he also included the program that he used to generate the graphs, by producing .ps from lisp
ben_vulpes: i'm dinking around with clnuplot as we speak, already seeing the end of its utility for me.
phf: ben_vulpes: for something like gnuplot i've discovered that learning all kinds of fancy ways you can output a string with #'format is a lot more useful skill then learning a specific library. short of writing an equivalent of gnuplot command ast you're going to run into impedence mismatch one way or another
asciilifeform: the EPROMs were placed flat, so were being irradiated at an angle to the optimum angle. However, this was in New Zealand which has a higher UV level than most other countries. [If you expose unprotected skin to say 2 to 4 hours full sun here in midsummer you can expect extremely severe and painful burns with the possible need for medical treatmemnt.] One hour will often leave you sore and sorry the next day.'
asciilifeform: 'In the late 1970s we found that on a reasonably sunny day a batch of "windowed" EPROMs exposed to sunlight for a day on a sunny windowsill through glass with the EPROM horizontal would invariably erase reliably. We probably had some idea of how little time it took but it was no so long ago that such fine detail escapes me. Note that the erasing was with light passing through standard window glass (a reasonable UV filter), and
mircea_popescu: yeah. listen, just sign the correct version.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, can you revise a copy of the contract with correct date in historical recitals (2015, not 2014)
asciilifeform: if you feel like doing it as an exercise, do it. if not, use one of the published items. (unlike what is customary in the barbarian world, cl libraries generally... work)
asciilifeform: the wrapper is what you'd end up writing anyway
asciilifeform: what's the problem, we count those when weighing a laptop
trinque: must be counting the desk and room!
ben_vulpes: sez 'X11' on the 'tin'
asciilifeform: but it never really worked correctly there to begin with
asciilifeform: and the laptop does not supplant it, no.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck did you get a laptop that supplants a half ton desktop ?
mircea_popescu: yes well, the eulora box is maybe 30lbs, and it's made of common materials.
asciilifeform: (if you add up all of the necessary bits)
asciilifeform: yes, it is. the example i am sitting on right now weights perhaps half a tonne, occupies most of a small room...
mod6: pre-september desktops for the win
asciilifeform: [insert 'living is not for the poor! be thankful king leopold has not yet cut off your hands!' thread here]
mircea_popescu: the only example i can think of would be "consumer designed laptop". you go in the shop with the definition files and they fedex you the item later that week
mircea_popescu: certainly it is going the right direction.
mircea_popescu: you don't even have to boither with anything, keeps its own logs, they get awked and gnuplot.
mod6: I saw a mining map that seemed to be autogenerated by the bot?! Looked fantastic.
mircea_popescu: o did you see the maps btw ?
mod6: it's how I found a whole 'nother patch of Elusive Snails.
mircea_popescu: it's ten minutes to set up and ten minutes of use to make itself indispensable. the chick can code, i don't remember a tool becoming THIS FUCKING NEEDED in recent times.
mod6: i like manual mining though... in a way, it's just some time for me to do some clicking and thinking about other things.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, i recall the box.
mod6: i just pulled down the new version of eulora btw. about to try to build it...
asciilifeform: mod6: these days i scarcely get to sit in front of it for 2-3 hrs /wk
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: there was that eulora demo for which you had a whole computer set up.
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, i couldn't imagine trying to do the same with a tablet or something. but i like the desktops that I have at home for stuff too.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: useful for hauling around the office, showing stuff in meetings etc.
asciilifeform: the halls of dwarven toil.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because the mines of moria.
asciilifeform: betcha these were carefully stress-tested to splinter.
asciilifeform: http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Apple-PowerBook-G4-12-inch_2.jpg << them.
asciilifeform: eady forgotten the abominable g4 tin cans!?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'Moreover, have you watched their software and hardware quality degrade phenomenally over the past decade? I certainly have. All of the old laptops, selections from the eMac and iMac line are total design and fabrication winnerssolid and reliable. My ENTIRELY RECENT "Macbook Pro" is rotting as I watch...' << eh, it was not 'solid until jobs died.' but rather reached a short-lived peak in 2010 or so. have you alr
mircea_popescu: i wonder how come they make sake argument and not say wine argument, or rum argument.
mircea_popescu: im just arguing for the sake of argument!
mircea_popescu: maybe the kid place has a pole ?
mod6: In minneapolis they'd have never let them put that in the same neighborhood. So Iowa is a bit cooler? Still shocked by this.
mircea_popescu: maybe the managers were like "hey, b-a luminary and trb maintainer mod seeks is coming over, EVERYONE ON ATTENTION!!1. Joe, call your wife, I know we said we'd never put her on but man... THIS IS TMSR!"
mod6: Ahah. You know.. it was funny how this place was zoned... there was a Library with a childrens place across the street. few other bars. Post office.
mircea_popescu: so it was more like a hole in the mall ?
mod6: So yeah, the reviews were pretty much bullshit -- at least for that night.
mod6: And for a hole-in-the-wall, it actually had 4 pretty hot strippers.
mod6: The reviews on google for this place was HORRIBLE, but we were like "fuck it".
mircea_popescu: i've yet to find a strip joint that's not really a kindergarten of the retarded.
mircea_popescu: for hall in the wall this sounds actually far above buenos aires' best and brightest.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'This working stiff is required to use all sorts of radioactive waste in the pursuit of his daily work. HTML, CSS, JS
functional programming languages that incomprehensibly compile from one AST to another in a vain attempt to keep my mind safe from the radiation of the underlying
' << could be worse. you could do all of this and also be poor.
mod6: there was a tall blond with a nice rack-of-lamb that was just for you Mr. P. You would have liked her I think. :]
mod6: this weekend was going to take a long road trip.... my buddy pussed out in Des Moines so we stopped at a hole in the wall stripclub then proceeded to drive directly back.
mircea_popescu: there's no promise of food.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not even. implicit in this hypothesis is some kind of bargain - that there will be eating.
ben_vulpes: the higher level point is that normal schmucks like me must suck cock.
mircea_popescu: you are promised at birth a life on your own terms, or to the breaking of your bones, whichever comes first.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but if ignorant why pick at all. do you also run in the dark ?
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu will not hesitate to remind the victim that it is his own fault for not having been born in afghan and fucked sufficiently many goats to innoculate him against herbivoricity
asciilifeform: re: neuroimaging machines in court: their introduction will follow (is following...) the same 'frog-boiling' algo as that of 'dna evidence' - initially it is 'you wouldn't deny this innocent man his exoneration!1111' followed by 'must find the real killer' followed by 'sir you are under arrest, kindly put your thumb here and here and then lie down in this machine for your routine brainprint'
ben_vulpes: but i am an orc, ignorant history and might be picking the wrong feller.
mircea_popescu: what's the horoscope ?
mircea_popescu: "even lord tolstoy had to write shakespeare teardowns to justify the great russian novel!"
mircea_popescu: (the reason is that mine's really the affirmative - the dictum masquerades a negative as a pop-positive, is all)
mircea_popescu: tbh i think the inverse is a stronger statement.
asciilifeform: or the like.
asciilifeform: becomes 'the perdition of the drowning is work of the hands of the selfsame drowning'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's usual (and factual) inversion of the ru orthodox dictum 'the salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the selfsame drowning'
mircea_popescu: does the jump make sense or should i drop some pontoons ?
mircea_popescu: ansd you know, the universal supreme goat council (USG) had a secret conspiracy to import wolves into the forest, to keep the baby goat herding behaviour going\
asciilifeform: how do the herbivores play into it ?
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 18:31:23; asciilifeform: chetty: the whole purpose of 'biometric' crap is to administratively fix the designated chump as the permanently-designated chump.
asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make then, as now, is that mri - like fingerprints - is a confession-inducer and evidence-planter apparatus, let's say 'guiltwashing', rather than necessarily a fact-finder.
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 20:06:41; asciilifeform: folks familiar with usg 'scientocracy' will laugh, but the fact is, the mind-reading box does not necessarily have to... work. to be put in use.
mircea_popescu: derstanding of the ethical progressivism of society-- better than lawyers or engineers or teachers or priests or anyone else-- ethics which they admit are constantly evolving-- but have thankfully, magically, and conveniently reached their culmination with today. The end of history. 4000 years of ethics, useless; they got it all right with a grant from the NIH and a subscription to The New Yorker."
mircea_popescu: "Do you want to live in a world where the criminality of an act-- the culpability of a person-- is based essentially on the moral ADHD of a bunch of doctors with third hand understanding of MRI results? Strike that-- on a very select bunch of doctors who purport to speak for these other doctors, who claim to have the greatest grasp of the science, and who claim in complete and absolute seriousness to have the best un
mircea_popescu: stupidity, not racism, is the problem of america.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the argument is almost always presented as "the glucose consumption picture in this guy's brain looks like THESE splotches of blue/yellow/whatever, therefore he's so-and-so like these other guys whose pictures look similar".
mircea_popescu: quite exactly. it's not okay to say "this man is black, therefore he's guilty, because that's the nature of people that are black"
mircea_popescu: n the justice system. I'd argue any association studies have no place in court, especially when they are read backwards ("because he has this, he is this.")
mircea_popescu: But more importantly, forensic brain scans represent the worst kind of classism. They say, essentially, that because your brain looks very similar to other brains, then you belong in that class; and you take on their other qualities. They may be appropriate for scientific investigations-- as early clues directing further research, "hey, this is interesting, let's look over here from now on"-- but they have no place i
mircea_popescu: the difference is that if you ignore the former you get paid, and if you ignore the latter you get hit in the head.
mircea_popescu: there is a very fundamental difference between constructed complexity ("web technology", astrology, political science etc) and actual complexity (protein folding, moving bodies in grav fields, etc)
ben_vulpes: sure, just like the railways could.
mircea_popescu: alternatively it can also be ignored altogether.
ben_vulpes: the "web tekmologys" assemblage is approaching the complexity of protein engineering, and the only thing that can be done is shake your problem space really hard until usable building blocks fall out.
mircea_popescu: "The Monte-Carlo approach to engineering, if you will, but with humans doing a really bad job of playing RNG." << how mp's view of VC world sounds, without any of the bile.
mircea_popescu: "all of their tools live in the Web, that bloated, miserable heap of accidentally co-executing text-as-sort-of-program."
mircea_popescu: "age hardening" is the magic property
ben_vulpes: short walk? or did the walk end in a shart?
mircea_popescu: duralumin, which is its first serious application, and what those large cow milk receptacles were made out of, in the 1920s pictures of farmers throwing milk away
mircea_popescu: the only thing is that "aluminum" is not like steel, it's like iron. ie, an element.
ben_vulpes: "in aggregate though, the chemistry's totally right!"
ben_vulpes: "but i can see the coke bits floating in it. and it shatters when i hit it with a hammer."
ben_vulpes: dude from the pressure of my /wrist/?
mircea_popescu: ALUMINUM DOESN'T CHIP << yes it does ben_vulpes ; poorly formulated aluminium's major problem is chipping. that's why it wasn't used in airframe fabrication from the get-go.
mircea_popescu: it turns out to be not only the best green tea i ever had, but so fucking great i'm actually drinking some.
mircea_popescu: as to archeology : find a source. that is the only way archeology works. you must find someone who remembers the history.
mircea_popescu: imo undefined death is the correct situation.
asciilifeform: also imho there ought to be some provision made for archaeology. defined, for this purpose, as the study of items from which no continuous-unbroken line of interested individuals exists.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one potential difficulty is that we have not yet invented death. (or rather, analogue death does not perfectly correspond to the necessary notion of electrical death - a man can die and his keys end up in the hands of just about any kind of idiot, after this he must be 'killed' again, manually, by some process not yet defined)
mircea_popescu: what shall be remembered of the thousand year archive is exactly what should be remembered : that which touched something that still interests.
mircea_popescu: trinque yes. imagine there's a millenium worth of deedbot, in the library of republixandria ; and imagine this is burned. now, we aim to reconstruct it.
trinque: I understand why the unit to work with here is the verifiable one. is there something more to it?
trinque: "if I was a part of this bundle, my backup has the whole bundle" ?
asciilifeform: (guess the author)
asciilifeform: ourts, inform grand juries, cut plea bargains, brag about resisting NSLs, set up warrant canaries, share tips with donors and investors, yadda, yadda, do donate generously, but best, generate taxable income,tax write-offs, never-ending war, paranoia and FUD.' << from the obvious. lulzy.
asciilifeform: 'Cybersecurity con artists are as bad by deluding their visitors and customers about how to protect themselves with encryption, Tor, anonymization, OTR, secret chats, deep web, blah, blah. All these con artists gin their own logs of trusting-users data, then either hand it over to authorities, sell it covertly, share with cohorts and standards orgs, write papers and give speeches soliciting customers, testify in Congress and c
trinque: so if I then pulled by fingerprint and dumped them out, would not have anything a spend referred to
mircea_popescu: (this is turning more and more into the only legitimately useful implementation of "blockchyain technology" known to date)
mircea_popescu: nice design then.
mircea_popescu: seems to me the way to go.
mircea_popescu: here's what i was thinking trinque : how much complexity would it add if the download was of the format
mircea_popescu: cool trinque. also, the backup ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sure you have, it's right there in the contract: 2014 is the only year that ever was.
pete_dushenski: "Given today, October 17th, in the capital city of our beloved Republic." << why no year ?
pete_dushenski: "3. On October 16th, 2014 cazalla notified the board of his intention to take a vacation. " << it's 2015
mircea_popescu: "So I bought a sewing factory makes a good title but the truther is that I bought a near perfectly sized industrial building and remodeled it to become a sewing factory."
asciilifeform: but of course 'golden toilet' as none would run msdos, be produced with the latest however-nanometre mosfets, etc, etc.
asciilifeform: all of them - actual, physical machines, which were produced
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 23:05:08; assbot: The Architecture of Symbolic Computers - Peter M. Kogge - Google Boeken ... ( http://bit.ly/1HiVST5 )
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2015 16:00:29; mircea_popescu: check out the anti-c machine
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1301140 << kogge had an entire encyclopaedic work on the subject, with dozens of examples from 1980s-90s >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-03-2015#1063060
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 23:45:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2015#1299071 << more like smart people do stupid shit all the time and often enough it happens that you're impressed with something someone does only to discover they "did it" by pure coincidence later on.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: This Week On Grey's Anatomy The Preposterous Happens ... ( http://bit.ly/1kdoMer )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/10/greys_anatomy_kill_me_now.html << in which we find ballas is not only amusingly sophomoric when it comes to finance&investment, but also animated by a rather hick sexual philosophy. down to the very typical "i'm not a raceyst but dem niggars!" formulation, even.
asciilifeform: if anyone knows of where (if anywhere) the ubld.it fella put his schematics and firmware, let me know.
asciilifeform: https://www.tindie.com/products/ubldit/truerngpro << why did this fella insist on putting a voltage boost converter right on the pcb!?! 100-200kHz harmonics... and he soldered down the shields, go and see what is under...
pete_dushenski: re : burial : "When a human dies naturally, make sure the corpse is properly disposed of. The corpse is a liability because a predator will associate even a scavenged meal (of human meat) with 'profitability'."
pete_dushenski: re : song : "My suggestion is that our ancestors turned loud singing into a central element of their defence system against predators. They started using loud, rhythmic singing and shouting accompanied by vigorous, threatening body movements and object throwing to defend themselves from predators."
pete_dushenski: http://www.meltingasphalt.com/music-in-human-evolution/ << #4 and #6 are reasonably interesting evolutionary explanations for the rhythm of human song and our practice of burying our dead.
pete_dushenski: re ^ http://variety.com/2015/film/news/leonardo-dicaprio-volkswagen-scandal-movie-1201615946/ << that was fast. one can only imagine that it'll paint vw as the cold, calculating devil, and regulators as innocent if bumbling fools
pete_dushenski: http://econjwatch.org/articles/two-ideological-ships-passing-in-the-night << for those interested in mainstream fiat economics, such as it is, this isn't a bad look at pro-marketists vs. pro-statists vis-a-vis their preference for and beliefs in models
pete_dushenski: this might seem like a loss for the lonely business traveler, but until hyatt offers 'safe' internet with the 5 'safest' websites and those alone, i wouldn't worry about it too much
pete_dushenski: in other news, hyatt hotels, following the leads of marriott and hilton, no longer off in-room cable porn.
pete_dushenski: so it's $1.39/oz, or about $0.05/g, for opium in mainland china in case anyone was wondering how badly their silk road dealer was ripping them off.
pete_dushenski: "Forget Colorado, stoners. The real frontier of narcotic edibles is in Shaanxi province, China. A restaurant owner there just confessed to police that to keep customers coming back, he had infused his noodles with 2 kilograms (4.4 pounds) of pulverized poppy buds—which can contain narcotics like morphine and codeine—that he bought in August for 600 yuan ($98)"
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2015 09:35:16; gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300901 << pete_dushenski go right ahead. next on the list are /2011/in-sprijinul-eugeniei/ , /2009/insarcinati-va/ and /2009/ce-ma-intereseaza-pe-mine-intr-un-proiect/ . if you have any one in particular you were looking at, shoot!
mircea_popescu: check out the anti-c machine
mircea_popescu: " you can support associative array lookups, appending to unbounded-size arrays, and the like, as fundamental machine operations."
mircea_popescu: trinque hey, is there a url to download deedbot's db, i forget ?
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mircea_popescu: funkenstein_> <-- perhaps you'd also like to have girlfriends, but never see or fuck them << you don't understand what the internets is for, or what the mobile revolution all about.
funkenstein_: i'd like to have a thousand bitcoins, but somebody else to hold and spend them for me
funkenstein_: <gabrielradio> i would like to have as many kids as possible, and ideally be involved as little as possible <-- perhaps you'd also like to have girlfriends, but never see or fuck them