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mircea_popescu: shouldn't they use , i dunno, helium ? to reduce their footprint ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i betcha they're getting carbon credits for sequestering
ben_vulpes: unlike coca cola and pepsi, which are the same fucking thing.
ben_vulpes: they exist however as entirely seperate things.
ben_vulpes: cocaine and heroin only have brands insofar as the usg propaganda machine defines them to.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But their Brand identities are distinct.
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck.
mircea_popescu: "Adolescence is supposed to be an identity Schrodinger's Cat: multiple simultaneous states which eventually collapse into only one. The goal of adulthood is to let go of the other possible existences and to make the best of the one. A successful adult is one who understands that it doesn't matter which life you ultimately pick, only that you live it well. The same potential for, say, happiness exists whether you are
BingoBoingo: Unless he is hiding a second middle name in there and the full expansion is "Carl Mark 4Real Force IV" and his name alone may be black enough
BingoBoingo: Only for the black guys. His name is very black, but his skin is insufficiently so.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> "these pants are just like those pants except using pants a makes me feel like a cooler person than pants b" << Drugs perfected this first: "Heroin feels really good, but Cocaine just always makes me feel more fun"
ben_vulpes: "these pants are just like those pants except using pants a makes me feel like a cooler person than pants b"
ascii_field: just like the 'ipnohe encryption' crock of shit
assbot: Facebook will tell you if the government is snooping on your account ... ( http://bit.ly/1PCGALY )
mircea_popescu: im thinking more of cheerleader hazing than army stuff. in english iirc that's called pluriously other thnings
mircea_popescu: this is the quintessential hazing.
mircea_popescu: uh... hazing is the introduction of immature/juvenile individuals to the practices of their kind.
ascii_field: now, if they were pineapples...
mircea_popescu: from tlp, in 2008 : "There is, however, one important unifying characteristic of political infidelities that makes them very different from the average joe on AshleyMadison.com: everyone knows these guys are going to get caught."
mircea_popescu: she cheated on her while they were tag-teaming some dude together ? wtf ?
mircea_popescu: so politician has to resign because he "cheated" on his wife ? as if fucking is now a crime ? but the thing is... SHE WAS THERE ?
punkman: I wonder where all the dead pilots work
ascii_field: though if the chart is to be believed, sometimes they... go logging
mircea_popescu: punkman most people who decide to off themselves say "they're going fishing"
assbot: The Deadliest Jobs in America | Bloomberg Business - Business, Financial & Economic News, Stock Quotes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PCEziZ )
punkman: re: most dangerous job thread, fishing takes the prize apparently http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-dangerous-jobs/
mircea_popescu: let's not confuse the most college educated generation in history
kakobrekla: all you need to do is register a drone and collect the data
ascii_field: have'em glom onto the vans, playing back recorded obscenities, blinkenlighting.
ascii_field: the new drone ban tastes extra-tasty with the van find
ascii_field: why would anyone 'hunt terrorists' (who aren't there) when he can hunt fat duffel bags full of benjies.
mircea_popescu: "we can't tell you about how we've not caught any terrorists because that would expose our inefficiency to the scrutiny of terrorists encouraging them and thus harm national security"
ascii_field: at any rate, the vans are used to help select folks for 'random traffic stop'
shinohai: Some article about a tool that is supposed to tell you how long your startup has before the vc money runs out
mircea_popescu: hm. aite then.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field old newspaper and old bills are practically the same iirc.
mircea_popescu: that's approximately the number of times they caught anyone who wasn;t a derp.
ascii_field: why would anyone die? the cops and the couriers work for the same folks, at the end of the day
shinohai: http://www.businessinsider.com/y-combinator-growth-calculator-2015-10 <<< I thought the best tool was to just let mircea_popescu analyze it.
mircea_popescu: and you can try out the daughters for 20 dollars in bolivia.,
mircea_popescu: punkman let's put it this way : if they yank any courrier everyone dies. the cops - including all the cops, not just hte ones involved, but everyone in their shift. plus their parents, and their soupses, and the spouse's exes
punkman: I wonder how aware the ny (drug/money/x) couriers deal with this
ascii_field: ever wonder how they know which car to pop for 100k in benjies ?
mircea_popescu: kinda the whole point. "recruiting" carl forces.
punkman: the nypd people operating the vans must be having a blast with their personal "xray glasses"
ascii_field: apparently they offer either.
mircea_popescu: even in the high throughput environments like the Great Toxic Swapm ?
gabrielradio: i had doubts for a second there. i'm still trying to figure out where to go straightforward & where to reconstruct to better cater to the meaning
mircea_popescu: anyway. possibly one of the hardest pieces to translate, it's so well flown in romanian...
mircea_popescu: deodata is not suddenly, in that contexts, it's "at the same time". english apparently fails synonymy. At the same time, simultaneously and concurrently i guess.
ascii_field: ergo the vans have precious little to do with bomb
ascii_field: incidentally, any self-respecting bomb craftsman puts in a fluorescent trigger for the xray schmucks
mircea_popescu: "so to say" = "as the expression goes"
mircea_popescu: meaning they steal, rape, arson and kill << burn and pillage eh ? you don't arson anymore than you disease.
mircea_popescu: nypd is an extension of the fucking court system.
mircea_popescu: hardly, the guy had an army.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does this mean, "refuses court order"
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mircea_popescu: with the characteristic circular chips
mircea_popescu: the thing that actually cvasi-crystallizes if allowed to cool, and it cracks
mircea_popescu: ftr, romanian hell not being too well connected to the needs of catholicism still mostly fills the space with smoala, which is a heavy tar.
mircea_popescu: that's how the hell ended up containing half sulphur by mass
ascii_field: 'deviltry of the infidels'
mircea_popescu: plenty of examplkes of the bs.
ascii_field: or, if you'd rather go back in time, the situation with catholic church and gunpowder.
mircea_popescu: "o look, X discovered the tank before us. how evil is X of the tanks!!11".
mircea_popescu: he chinese of the 70s trying to pretend the usians are bad BECAUSE of computers. as if "computerization" is a bad thing in and of itself, not merely a natural evolution in which thosew guys happened to have got the drop on our guys.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the very amusing situation where people (including derps with aspirations of culture and intelligence a la orwell) fell for the very obvious trick of pretending that the nazi/fascist police state stuff was not merely the germans/italians being TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED, ie, doing exactly what britain, the us, russia will do themselves later on, but somehow it were specific about them. sort-of like t
mircea_popescu: exactly the civil war dispute, a few decades prior.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of these latter : i wonder how many people realise that the us complaint with spanish administration in florida was that it's TOO LAX ? as in, not oppressing the land nearly enough ? which is why they invaded.
mircea_popescu: you know, what it mostly was between the time of the lombards and the time of the spanyards.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile that stupid shit is 30 cents each off the boat.
mircea_popescu: shitty service ; old confused woman reads off a tiny script on a lined paper thing, apparently the EXACT SAME planter is 283.
mircea_popescu: go to a different shop, a little further. advertisement on wall, "if you want this shop to survive, don't ask for a discount".
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i had the most ustardian experience in argentina yet. so i want planters. small shop down the street, mostly closed, someone's house. finally it's open, i pick the planters, they're 90 each. i say i want 5, they only have 3. i scratch my head and leave.
ascii_field: but yes, my first thought was, 'and they laughed at lucent'
mircea_popescu: well yes but the rotary phone is < 50 cents in qty.
mircea_popescu: note that 35 forever is actually less revenue than they made leasing old rotary phones.
ascii_field: now when you walk in, you either pay the 800 or agree to the '35/mo forever' claptrap
ascii_field: this thought was inspired by learning that telcos in usa suddenly abolished the 'contract subsidy' thing
mircea_popescu: if i was younger and somehow the ipod thing actually put any drag on my mating, that's pretty much what i'd have done.
ascii_field: (that the owner did not give to crapple)
ascii_field: there is typically at least twice this in the pan of any respectable panhandler even here in the suburbs.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field anyone on the street in the us.
mircea_popescu: there's also nothing rightful in the unmitigated audacity of daring to not conform to the environment
ascii_field: l0l who the everliving fuck doesn't have $ 25 ?
mircea_popescu: there';s nothinfg rightful in not having $25 disposable to play, which is ALL this is about.
mircea_popescu: no, they're just poor AND stupid.
ascii_field: perhaps now can believe the 'rentalstarter' thing !
mircea_popescu: at this point needing a warning that the cloud is maintained by and for the nsa is like needing a warning that if you marry an american you'll be stuck with an ineffectual narcissist, or that if you save in dollars you'll end up worse than the manic collector with alzhimers and his piles of old newspapers, or all sorts of similarly obvious stuff.
assbot: Loper OS » There is no “Cloud”: There are only Other People’s Hard Drives. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkF1PL )
ascii_field: http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/files/2015/04/bag-there-is-no-cloud.jpg << lulzy. to me, at least, because afaik the phrase is lifted directly from http://www.loper-os.org/?p=44
ascii_field: 'Surprisingly, Dropcam’s privacy policy doesn’t warn customers that the government could seize the cloud-based video from their cameras or tap into their live-streams, and doesn’t state under which circumstances the company would comply with such a request. (Update: And law enforcement has come calling with warrants.)' << ahahaha
punkman: do the japs still censor their porn?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many 4th wave feminists fighting rape on campus and what other derpage realise that their daughters... well no. their nieces will live their life naked.
ascii_field: to the point of uninstrumented women's toilets being a rarity in some places
mircea_popescu: gotta a) keep driving down the capital cost of pron ; b) acclimate the womenz to their nude future.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before a guy starts sending all the companies scam "copyright infringement" notices and invitations to pay $600 to make the embarassment go away, like those twerps trawling the noob torrent folk.
ascii_field: the fact that your signing up for 23andMe or Ancestry.com means that you and all of your current and future family members could become genetic criminal suspects is not something most users probably have in mind when trying to find out where their ancestors came from.'
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 19:53:28; mircea_popescu: jus don't answer the mail, it'll take care of itself.
mircea_popescu: you get the tool, plug it into your linux laptop and go.
mircea_popescu: the thing is open source right ?
mircea_popescu: o hey, did ethereum just break through it's record low ?
ascii_field: modern color laser printers do include some form of tracking information that associates documents with the printer's serial number. (If any manufacturer wishes to go on record with a statement to the contrary, we'll be happy to publish that here.)'
ascii_field: '(Added 2015) Some of the documents that we previously received through FOIA suggested that all major manufacturers of color laser printers entered a secret agreement with governments to ensure that the output of those printers is forensically traceable. Although we still don't know if this is correct, or how subsequent generations of forensic tracking technologies might work, it is probably safest to assume that all
mircea_popescu: i've got the best fucking weather, it's incredible. constantly 16-18ish, nice breeze, beautiful sun...
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mircea_popescu: the suits in washington have more to do with jpm and gs than all of this
mircea_popescu: depends what you mean by "policeman". the legitimate job (beat cop, giving directions and taking drunks home) is gone. the paper pusher job is whatever, another social worker. the DEA agent / carl force IV thing is just a different jolly roger color scheme for the same thuggery.
diametric: I should say, despite the claims of "most dangerous job"
mircea_popescu: for every 5mn gestapo anon reports there was a shocking 0 coups on hitler's lyf.
diametric: Surprisingly there aren't that many police deaths in the US per year.
Xplosionist: But the pork/policemen analogy is too fun.
mircea_popescu: matches the 80s.
ascii_field: may be a legend, from zeitgeist of the time, so to speak
mircea_popescu: i heard the story also but always figured it for ethnofantasy
ascii_field: they found a larder, sausages, hams
ascii_field: eventually somebody noticed that they never came back.
mircea_popescu: there's more cases of people who ate policemen than cases of people who starved in the us.
mircea_popescu: but if you do either, gotta do it with ALL the elements. you cant mix above avg x with under average y, it'll hurt.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this system is so beautifully modelled in eulora... you can either overcraft or undercraft
ascii_field: aha, so they can start the 40% interest chumpatron going early in life
mircea_popescu: they mail 20yo kids cards now.
ascii_field: no plebe gets actual hard cash just for the asking
mircea_popescu: where, in the us ?
ascii_field: usually the latter is contingent on the former
mircea_popescu: if you have debts, why the fuck are you getting a payckech.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the concept that you can't build muscle and lose weight at the same time ?
mircea_popescu: the way debts work since the invention of the concept is you gotta have something.
mircea_popescu: they got hope and change going now after all.
mircea_popescu: jus don't answer the mail, it'll take care of itself.
ascii_field: recently, american tax collectors started going after people for debts of their long-dead parents
ascii_field: but not otherwise
mircea_popescu: they claim it doesn't go away. in practice, it does.
ascii_field: (mortgage, 'student loan', tax. most of the stuff people actually owe $maxint for)
mircea_popescu: 5 years after the last contact it's wiped.
mircea_popescu: your hunger doesn't go away because "that's enough, i've been hungry for six hours now". on the fucking contrary.,
BingoBoingo: Prolly could have sent money internationally from there.
BingoBoingo: Still beats the hell out of Western Union. Liquor store had all sorts of cash services, run by a few cool Persian fellows.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: there are shithole shops everywhere that will cut a cheque to arbitrary address for 110% in benjies
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302431 << When I was in Missouri I could have made tax payments at the liquor store down the street. Didn't do that, but could have.
mircea_popescu: he's in canada. their housing doesn't have its own housing there
analmaster: well how does the saying go
ascii_field: analmaster is sitting in the room with me l0l
ascii_field: Xplosionist: your luck day then! there he is.
ascii_field: how's life in your corner of the world, Xplosionist ?
kakobrekla: i have some vague memory telling me this was the case at some point
Xplosionist: thanks much all. And, for better and worse, I'll make sure my client is in sync before trying to propose a bet in the future.
Xplosionist: i have 0.11.0, it's working okay for me on multiple macs. haven't tried it on other OSes.
Xplosionist: Oh. Well, then to what i said before. I expected it would work.
Xplosionist: But, maybe the bitcoin core client doesn't work the way I thought it did.
Xplosionist: the transaction looks like 07:31 (UTC?)
kakobrekla: i dont think the fees matter (yet). 0conf takes zero conf txes, meaning it just has to propagate, not be included in bc
kakobrekla: the 0 stands for 0 and the conf stands for confirmations
Xplosionist: What is "the 0conf" ?
kakobrekla: in short: mods came to the proposal before the 0conf did
kakobrekla: https://bitbet.us/propositions/ < 0conf says 0, but if you click on the 0, you get your .5
Xplosionist: So, happy to not have the proposet bet exist now, I want to find out where my 0.5 BTC is.
Xplosionist: And, the other comment was about it being somewhat the opposite side of an existing bet.
Xplosionist: @kakobrekla, oh you mean the bet was rejected. Right. That I'd guessed.
Xplosionist: Where do you see that on the blockchain.info page, for my education?
Xplosionist: Apologies, making the best. The proposal was the Bernie Sanders 2016.
mircea_popescu: why not "i sent so and so on this date included in this block here's the txn and etc
assbot: The Sheeple & Bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2oQ1H )
shinohai: https://archive.is/7dX46 <<< "The Sheeple and Bitcoin" LULZ
Xplosionist: But, AFAICT, I'm still out the 0.5 BTC I sent.
Xplosionist: I proposed a bet last week, but I think my funding of the bet was delayed too long, and the bet proposal was eventually rejected.
pete_dushenski: quite so. like my current attempts to have 'madcatz' cough up checksums/signatures for their software.
pete_dushenski: just flitted through the canadian tax code, nothing in there about receiver general not accepting cash, nor anything on cra website about 'we don't ACCEPT cash' just 'don't send cash, send cheque'
pete_dushenski: "If your device is more than five years old, your system may need an upgrade. Over the next two years, the computing industry will eliminate certain security protocols that are more than 10 years old. The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) regularly updates its secure online services to ensure they feature the highest security standard, which is Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.2." << hah
mircea_popescu: "everybody knows that everything exists at the pleasure of usg hurr durr" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: and it matches exactly the psychological profile of webtards / "dudes too dumb to sling dope". "oh, there's nothing we could have done anyway, best go back to starbux"\
ascii_field: ever since the original stuxnet paper.
mircea_popescu: (and no, the "apts don't exist" "apts exist" debate is not meaningful. some things exist, unrelatedly to the brand and independent of it. the brand however exists for the reason brands exist.)
mircea_popescu: is this entire "apt" thing the hangout repackaging of raiu's earlier psychosis ?
ascii_field: 'A perfect example of the perils faced by researchers was provided in a separate talk at Virus Bulletin by Costin Raiu, director of Kaspersky Lab’s Global Research and Analysis Team. Raiu revealed that when he was involved in the analysis of Stuxnet a few years ago, someone broke into his house and left a rubber cube with the message “take a break” written on it.'
ascii_field: in other lulz,
assbot: GCHQ can and will spy on politicos, rules tribunal • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1XfwMtH )
shinohai: Wow, I should have never moved out of Mom's house then I could afford to commission a buttload of spanking art.
pete_dushenski: "A payment in foreign funds will be accepted. However, the exchange rate for converting the payment to Canadian dollars is determined by the financial institution at the time it processes your payment." <<
shinohai: Mail them the fee all in Canadian pennies pete_dushenski
shinohai: Maybe Ethereum has a solution.
mircea_popescu: " Based upon the information provided, you have been placed in the "other" category of requesters, which means you are responsible for the cost of search time exceeding two hours ($44.00/hour) and reproduction fees ($.15 per page) exceeding 100 pages. We will notify you if it appears that we will meet or exceed our $25.00 minimum billing threshold in processing your request." <<< where's the "blockchain technologee"
mircea_popescu: the right to appeal any denial of records after you receive a final response
mircea_popescu: we can. Unless we hear from you otherwise, we will assume that you agree
mircea_popescu: Panel, 14675 Lee Road, Chantilly, VA 20151-1715 after the initial 20 working
mircea_popescu: consider this a denial and may appeal on this basis to the NRO Appeal Review
mircea_popescu: within the 20 working days stipulated by the Act, you have the right to
mircea_popescu: at the very least 2x as firmly embedded as the current nail.
mircea_popescu: in neither case do you go on the alf pipe "mechanisms don't exist".
mircea_popescu: if not, you kill the cops.
mircea_popescu: which is WHY i say "kill the cop". you wanna be all civilised and shit, better than a 16 yo ghetto rat, then you foia the shit out of the nsa, to the point of driving it out of existence.
mircea_popescu: for as long as it's not receiving in excess of 1 bn requests a year, the populace's failing at its chosen game
mircea_popescu: the correct reaction to nsa is to foia the shit out of it.
mircea_popescu: unless to do one of their bullshit burial pieces, of course.
mircea_popescu: MOSTLY because the derps don't know what they should be "upvoting". obviously the guardian's not gonna be talking about this.
mircea_popescu: coderman is pressuring the right spots, but with so far dismal results.
mircea_popescu: are we talking of the same obese cops ? the same sloppy idiots who can't get their own paper work in order 50% of the time so pretty much everything that goes to a judge gets thrown out ?
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:35:18; mircea_popescu: the question is, why don't the prisoners kill some cops ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302361 << for all we know, they caught a houdini who pulled a wakizashi out of his arse and did kill a cop..
mircea_popescu: you know the hungarian parrot joke ?
mircea_popescu: imo the best common one is, husband keeps insistinting to take wife to strip club, she eventually relents, dumbass takes her to familiar ground, woman notices.
punkman: is there a single good example of the accidental-snitch in there?
pete_dushenski: " Al, I didn’t know Betty had any relatives in town. I saw her with what must have been her nephew down at the bar. They look like they have a very close relationship."
assbot: The art of dry snitching ... ( http://bit.ly/1XfoFNO )
mircea_popescu: i guess they must be great daydreamers, huh.
mircea_popescu: the serbs did a lot better during the war. do muricans suck at EVERYTHING they do ? or just the things that one can hear about ?
assbot: Federal regulators to require registration of recreational drones - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxlcMf )
ascii_field: in other lulz,
mircea_popescu: 20yo chicks mostly go to the gym to take sweatpants selfies for facebook, don't they.
mircea_popescu: and didn't even ask for the receipt. which is good, as he hadn't given me one.
mircea_popescu: i bought it first. then it didn't work, so i returned it. lol.
kakobrekla: howd you get the nat router?
mircea_popescu: technically yes, if you are returning the tide.
kakobrekla: can you get lottery ticket with tide at the gas station?
mircea_popescu: and no, "nobody bothers anyway" is not a reason.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i could read the code but i'm lazy" and "you can't read the code" also.
mircea_popescu: it's really very simple : either item X can be used to pay taxes or it can not.
mircea_popescu: as it is right now, cash and tide are equally money (ie, not accepted as tax payment), but one's useful and the other's paper.
mircea_popescu: like you know, when i buy a pair of shoes in cash, i go into the shoe shop, fish out some bills.
ascii_field: so ~that~ must be where all the poor idiots with suitcases of benjies were going
mircea_popescu: no, irs has cash payment office, you go there and give them cash. that's "cash is accepted as tax payment".
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sure you can pay taxes in cash, no ? show up to bank teller with cash and 'pay bill' assuming you have account there
ascii_field: be the main factor. Germans could see it the post, Americans couldn't.'
ascii_field: affected, as were my regular home IP addresses). Apparent location of the user's IP address seemed to
ascii_field: and my own work, it appears the issue was not limited to only one ISP (it affected both CenturyLink
ascii_field: ' The tweet had disappeared from view from US, in Appelbaum's feed. From these posts,
mircea_popescu: you can't actually pay your taxes in cash. so cash is not actually legal tender. so why bother ?
mircea_popescu: and it would seem the usg is going towards withdrawing support.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the problem with cash is that if the sovereign withdraws support you're left with pretty paper
pete_dushenski: also, atm reduced from $1k max per day to motherfucking "suggested max" of $800.
mircea_popescu: how do you like the web now, bitches.
mircea_popescu: this is what we got for the fucking september. CIA "directors".
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: one chapter closed, and another opened.
jurov: pete_dushenski: on it, hit another glitch
mircea_popescu: and you are exactly right : when i get a new girl in my clutches for the first week or two i suck her brain out through her earlobes.
mike_c: :) you're as old as me, how the hell do you read these things?
mike_c: this will continue until footnotes become the size of 1 atom, and then the black hole sucks earth
mircea_popescu: "the rules" are there to protect the fucking cops, wtf.

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