asciilifeform: forgot the title
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2015 01:10:25; mircea_popescu: i suppose in the south of the future the masters live in orbit and the slaves roam below. to be abducted now and again for sexual services or w/e.
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BingoBoingo: Randiant heat from the engine also a hazard.
mircea_popescu: if you move the air fast enough it will actually add heat.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, except you tell the Po-Po you are curing cancer by donating your spare cycles
BingoBoingo: I mean an oil cooling system that burn the oil (Jet A only)
BingoBoingo: Also a wouldn't a 250 GHz chip cooled by having a small jet engine intake pull away the hot air be cool?
mircea_popescu: the only time you have to fan it is when the thing is INTOLERANT of temperature. the higher temperature it can tolerate the less fan you need.
BingoBoingo: But if air heats faster, there's gotta be a limit before you bring in the noise to bend air to your will
mircea_popescu: temperature is not really the problem for a heatsink.
BingoBoingo: Sure, but if the monster wants to idle at 300C you need moar than a heatsink. I'm disappointed there aren't many if any new chips like this
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: It does if you need to cool all the power
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2015 01:02:21; *: BingoBoingo wishes more contemporary machines weren't afraid to be loud in the name of cooling.
BingoBoingo: And further in the future quality slut breeders get a place in orbit without the good view.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the south of the future the masters live in orbit and the slaves roam below. to be abducted now and again for sexual services or w/e.
BingoBoingo: St Louis tried the city on a hill thing and only got Ferguson and a bunch of outlying areas that flood from time to time
phf: mircea_popescu: well, yes, in the above narrative it's a summer house, you go there if you want to be alone and study migration patterns of some quirky local species, which is your hobby. all the action is in the orbit
BingoBoingo: Of course. Good people though only keep a townhouse in the city
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no sane people wanted to live in the plain, for all of history, until machinery. << On a hill by a river or coast has always been and forever will be ideal on earth
mircea_popescu: no sane people wanted to live in the plain, for all of history, until machinery.
mircea_popescu: IF spaceships ever become a thing, then therefore surface living will be sort-of like mountain living today.
phf: requires one of those futuristic syd mead houses, with an office room overlooking alpha centauri landscape, that's where you put the console. the computer is in the basement, calculating landing trajectories, for the private spaceship of your visiting friends
BingoBoingo wishes more contemporary machines weren't afraid to be loud in the name of cooling.
asciilifeform: (the machine is loud, as in vacuum cleaner, so idea was that it lives in its own room, console - in a quiet, distant one.)
asciilifeform: connects to the box itself with a thick triax cable
asciilifeform: for a while i researched the protocol and tried to build a solid-state replacement, got nowhere, too much like actual work
asciilifeform: 2) cannot be reinstalled (i don't have the tapes, or the tape drive) even if you could obtain another.
asciilifeform: buyer would have to also understand that the thing is full of electrolytic caps, circa 1986; and there is a mechanical hdd
asciilifeform: as in, if it breaks, it cannot be meaningfully repaired (unlike the vase!) and certainly not replaced
BingoBoingo: The serious problem
BingoBoingo: Need the trifecta of over weight item, hard to insure, actually demands delicate treatment beyond UPS or USPS can provide
BingoBoingo: Well that and carrying the payload the comfort only a reliable yet non-descript family sedan can provide.
asciilifeform: and did anyone so much as bother to consider it?
asciilifeform: what is a weather balloon? how much does it lift ?
assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 23:50:06; mircea_popescu: If you agree with this, then you have to also face the fact that Wolf didn't consciously plan, "no matter what happens in this interview, I'm going to cover it up"-- it was a reflex, an instinct. Get a drink, think about this: a reporter's instinct wasn't to go for the truth, but to go with the scripted story.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1304077 << this was an obscene - in the sense of serving as conclusive proof that everyone who parroted the story in the fishwrap, etc. is long overdue to be boiled for soap - because - think about it...
asciilifeform: they never, ever go down.
asciilifeform: less of an issue, interestingly, with the xl1200
BingoBoingo: phf: Nah, motor courier service operating out of the central US, but if you are closer...
phf: doesn't need to, i will pick it up from the door
assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 23:22:28; mircea_popescu: phf and what's this say about inflation ? note that they are artwork in any sense.
mircea_popescu: I think Rita Owens meant the statement "more Caucasian men stepping up" as a jab at blacks to get them movitated, but if it is factually accurate then these Caucasians are idiots. Really? Big Brothers? That's the call you heard? Whites seem particularly prone to manic devotions to faddish volunteerism inspired by celebrity that are transparently self-aggrandizing. And temporary-- they inevitably quit when the nex
mircea_popescu: "Here's what happened on 9/12 at my hospital, and what happens in so many cases of high-emotion altruism: they take the day off in order to go to NYC, but then don't actually go (car wouldn't start; heard on the radio they were blocking volunteers, etc). They win: they get the reward of the sacrifice, perform no actual sacrifice, and get the day off. Meanwhile, someone else had to sacrifice to cover their responsibil
phf: you're selling the whole orchestra, huh?
asciilifeform: * the former is pictured
asciilifeform: (other - also for sale, but with whole orchestra)
mircea_popescu: o look, they also went up exponentially in future
assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 23:27:02; phf: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-3600-LISP-MACHINE-KEYBOARD/321810769726 << was trying to buy this one, got as high as $1100 on best offer, guy wouldn't go any lower then $1400
mircea_popescu: more of the same and less of everything.
BingoBoingo: Fucker didn't even make the box?
mircea_popescu: what's the problem with banging hos
pete_dushenski: can't grep or otherwise search ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Gotta resubmit. Last night means there's about 3/4 of a MB of fresh spam to dig through
pete_dushenski: i'd take even money on qatar falling before athens, if anyone's interested
pete_dushenski: now there's a bet
shinohai: Any other kid with half a brain would have written a cool clock script in python and showed his teacher.
mircea_popescu: as alf pointed out, with the power chord still attached, it looks like one of those retard constructions
assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 22:16:14; jurov: maybe it's just me but i don't like porn zooming all in to genitalia and spending minutes there, especially in this time of huge HD screens
shinohai: I don't think it's far-fetched either.
mircea_popescu: and this isn't that far fetched, either : us is just about due for a dead president.
mircea_popescu: ahaha. if "meets obama" clocktard comes back a decade later onboard a plane that slams into the wh and kills the us president, i WILL write the "obama trained a future terrorist" article.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell jurov thanks for the coinbr fix !
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo can you check the qntra spam filter for a comment of mine ? i think it got scarfed.
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shinohai: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/20/the-teenaged-maker-who-was-arrested-for-building-a-clock-is-moving-to-qatar/ <<< in order to learn how to make better clocks no doubt.
pete_dushenski: hm. ok. maybe 20 years ago then
mircea_popescu: iting, she does not even acknowledge that he vomited. Is she heartless? No. She's flustered: her instinct is to preserve the show, like a stage actress, keep the scene going no matter what else happens."
mircea_popescu: You may think that I'm too much with the rum or too hard on Wolf-- "he seems like such a nice man" but it's not Wolf's fault. He's a cog in the Matrix. The next day Meredith Vieira interviews the family live on the Today show. While the father is denying to her it was a hoax, the boy suddenly says, "mom, I need a cup" and vomits. Vierra's response to this is nothing. Forget about the implications of the boy's vom
mircea_popescu: If you agree with this, then you have to also face the fact that Wolf didn't consciously plan, "no matter what happens in this interview, I'm going to cover it up"-- it was a reflex, an instinct. Get a drink, think about this: a reporter's instinct wasn't to go for the truth, but to go with the scripted story.
mircea_popescu: "What happened is that Wolf was in the middle of a story some people suspected was a hoax, but was still being reported as a "thank god he was hiding in the garage" drama. So he tried to protect the story. He tried to pretend he missed the comment so that everyone could go on with the story as it was being told.
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/wolf_blitzer_is_not_an_idiot.html << fucking epic. omfg what would the net be without this guy. quote :
pete_dushenski: the expansion of means and methods of police mobility in just the last decade is pretty astounding.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu then he loses his trophies for 'juicing' << Unless bicycle cop, then promoted
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu then he loses his trophies for 'juicing'
BingoBoingo: It is exactly the upper limit of bike range nearly
pete_dushenski: the black tesla i saw at the racquet club yesterday was driven by trophy wife with two kidlets in tow
mircea_popescu: "my other bike is a tesla"
phf: i suppose you either amazon it or else "shop local" i.e. within walking/biking distance
mircea_popescu: "here's my very expensive excuse as to why i'm not going out of the house. it's not that im borderline autistic, it's that i save the environment. from myself."
mircea_popescu: phf> i suspect that failures in this case are seen as being on bleeding edge, sort of meta-meta-maker << maybe the truth is, the people who buy teslas don't have anywhere to go anyway.
pete_dushenski: but mechanical components are always readily at hand. can only imagine tesla ownership in backwaters such as these
phf: some part of car is replaced by a 3d printed equivalent, there's stl models and tutorials on maker.tesla.com, details on how to print your own, spiffier version
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo honestly, my merc is the same story. actually machines. plenty of parts and parts cars. even if, on short notice, clean body panels sometimes come from very, very far afield as seen in http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/20/hey-edmonton-police-service-what-part-of-private-property-dont-you-understand/#footnote_1_5675
pete_dushenski: "oh you broke your screen/headlight ? that'll be 3/4 of the cost of a new one."
BingoBoingo: I don't get how they can be happy with just a 200 mile range before refilling
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo that's the mark of an actual car, as opposed to a 'smartphone'
pete_dushenski: "Despite the problems, our data show that Tesla owner satisfaction is still very high: Ninety-seven percent of owners said they would definitely buy their car again." << now that's a fucking cult
BingoBoingo: Every couple years something expected to wear out wears out, but other than that it's not needed much other than maintenance
pete_dushenski: they're pretty funky things
pete_dushenski: which is no knock on them
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo i have fond memories of those saturnmobiles. some fillies in undergrad had them.
BingoBoingo: "The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks."
BingoBoingo: "The brake rotors tend to warp. And the door handles often fail to present themselves as drivers approach their cars."
phf: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-3600-LISP-MACHINE-KEYBOARD/321810769726 << was trying to buy this one, got as high as $1100 on best offer, guy wouldn't go any lower then $1400
pete_dushenski: or "note that they are artwork in every sense"
pete_dushenski: "note that they are artwork in any sense" sounds funny. like it should either be "not that they are artwork in any sense" or "note that they are NOT artwork in any sense"
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mircea_popescu: phf and what's this say about inflation ? note that they are artwork in any sense.
pete_dushenski: the essences made far more sense than they did whenever i read them last, maybe 6-9 months ago
phf: <ascii_field> BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560 << given that prices on symbolics hardware gone 3x in the past five years, i expect that same machine to fetch $40 000 in a year or two
pete_dushenski: also re-read the essences trifecta on trilema today. i guess it's an expressions and changes kinda day.
assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 17:33:01; ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'And it is because the real estate prices in Beijing etc have made it so that young women are unaffordable.' << what does this mean?
pete_dushenski: first dynasty, young handsome charmer, because why not put the best of bush and obama into a blender and ship the product up north ?
pete_dushenski: with their own money !
pete_dushenski: haven't seen a movie in theatres in a few months, thinking the new bond flick will break the seal.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303087 << elizabeth banks is painful to watch. obnoxious as all hell, insufficiently sexy, and now getting long in the tooth.
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/ << from which we find that the twinklederps are about half as interesting as nascarface derp.
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mircea_popescu: the trully horrid Meeks and Jeste "study" on "wisdom" and that fucktard Henry Nasrallah's repackaging of the same are splendid anecdotal points to drive this entire "the difference between a libertard and a religious bigot is that the religious bigot is actually anachronistic, and in this sense MORE CULTURALLY ADVANCED."
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/the_neurobiology_of_wisdom.html << this shit's epic. "Note that they dropped the "Saint." Meanwhile, there's no problem referring, a few sentences later, to Gandhi as "Mahatma." That's okay, because no educated person actually thinks Gandhi is a saint, but there are still plenty of numbskulls who need to be reminded that Aquinas isn't."
mircea_popescu: (but, to keep things sophisticated - the raphe is more visible in males than in females ; also males lack a penis bone, much like the horse lacks a clavicle. it has been suggested that THIS is what the adam rib story is all about - god took man's penis bone and left a cvasi-scar.)
mircea_popescu: where's the whole whorl - and - sexuality discussion anyway!
mircea_popescu: (idle thought : if internet porn "objectifies women" / "contains experts", where's all the articles expertly discussing the relative value of a whorl on said raphe ? what do you think, do women with twin hairline do better in bed than the normal (single line) ?
mircea_popescu: the hd is there so you can see what a good job the bikini wax salon did on her perineal raphe.
jurov: maybe it's just me but i don't like porn zooming all in to genitalia and spending minutes there, especially in this time of huge HD screens
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mircea_popescu: i suspect it's where the thing got started.
jurov: ^ i can nominate it to b-a anthem
mircea_popescu: "oh, im just going to drive this plow against the fluid front, creating a wave off center and all will be well because..."
mircea_popescu: aaand ethereum is back to doing it's 10% a day loss dance. 0.00166 now
mircea_popescu: oh right right, i guess im ruined in fetlife (bdsm ?) because they banned some random people just in case we were connected. lolk.
shinohai: I'm at a loss on that one too. Not like I can't just make another friggin account, or that I even care what they think, etc.
shinohai: I dunno, I tweeted something some time ago about them being no better than scammers for their support of GAW, they threatened to have me removed from twitter, etc.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303871 <<< BadBitcoin "threatened" to ruin me on twitter for pointing out their support for GAW.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, there's no room in attention for the thing and its copy, which is why isms are for the stupid and the poor.
ascii_field: to borrow from old west, 'ain't room enough in town for the both of'em' - the humanist and humanity, that is.
mircea_popescu: kinda why it's so important to rape and kill them.
mircea_popescu: the eternal fantasy is, "omnivore basically means herbivore, rite ?"
ascii_field: their eternal fantasy is, unsurprisingly, 100% yield of homo redditicus ~at birth~.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at sanity ranch : punch an enlightened douchebag today. the fact Maya Angelou, diane keaton, Nancy Reagan et all haven't died with a cock shaped icepick through their eyes is bad enough.
mircea_popescu: the "humanist" war on humanity continues.
mircea_popescu: this from a study on shit, that doesn't even halfway hold up to any sort of scrutiny : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/more_on_amygdala_anxiety_and_m.html
mircea_popescu: "In keeping with this development, sometime in the future cord bloods will be taken routinely from birth and used to delineate the individual's DNA so that genetic information will be readily available under emergency conditions to assure proper assessment of violent people. Hence, a patient presenting with an episode of violence and a history to support that will have their DNA contrasted with norms to determine if th
ascii_field: ^ this is the box amex used to keep entire dc of
ascii_field: BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> it isn't in any sense 'new' either << New is failed Altcoin scammers resorting to it
mircea_popescu: you see the irony of PERPETUAL energy scam ?
ascii_field: it isn't in any sense 'new' either
mircea_popescu: 0 feedback, which puts them WAY ahead of what your AVERAGE human being achieves.
mircea_popescu: you can run a bunch of tv specials about "ratcism", they're still gonna do exactly what they did before
mircea_popescu: yes. you can surveillance them until you fall over, they're gonna do whatever they did before.
mircea_popescu: the real one.
mircea_popescu: except nobody calls them that. live from SOCIAL MEDIA.
ascii_field: live from the sewercamz?
mircea_popescu: or, if you prefer, a transcript of the chicken coop session on "things and the world"
mircea_popescu: sure gramps. early history called, they need you back there three seconds after the big bang.
mircea_popescu: "we're all equal and equally the same and thus therefore clearly - either the H binds to another H or to the end of a C or to something wait, C doesn't exist. EVERYONE HAS ONE VALENCE AND THE WORLD IS MADE OF HYDROGEN"
mircea_popescu: and why not ? "because it wouldn't be fair to the working man" ?
mircea_popescu: No they weren't. Leaving aside morality, cheating on your wife means that you haven't fully connected to her, or have lost some of that connection. You don't have to be Don Draper to pull that off. "Well, I want to be as suave as he is, I want to pick up girls like he can." It's the same disconnectedness. You could do it, too, then you'll lose the ability to be deeply connected to someone. You can't do both sim
mircea_popescu: "But I want to be a ladies man like Don Draper. Back then it was easier, because affairs were more acceptable."
ascii_field: interestingly, rfc3447 (section a.2.4) allows other hashes, up to sha512
mircea_popescu: "In PGP and GnuPG, the public-key cipher is probably the weaker of the pair. Fortunately, however, if an attacker could decrypt a session key it would only be useful for reading the one message encrypted with that session key. The attacker would have to start over and decrypt another session key in order to read any other message."
ascii_field: the pkcs1, yes.
mircea_popescu: oh the session keys. myeah.
ascii_field: 'The MD is always 16 bytes here because it's always MD5.'
mircea_popescu: nobody heard of big lurch, kinda the point.
funkenstein_: the guy wrote a "resistance manifesto" a decade or so ago
funkenstein_: as to the youtube vid stuff, who knows maybe Mark Dice has some worthwhile stuff
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mircea_popescu: he could have a ball ravishing teenagers. in fact, possibly the blog hiatus is the direct result of his having figured this out
mircea_popescu: "How the hell come she can't see through this poser?" She does see through it, you don't. She sees something fake, then something "real" underneath, and falls for him; you see something fake, stop there, and hate him.
mircea_popescu: Those who don't come to it from exactly the right perspective are infuriated, "this guy is a douchebag!" You think you see something more real than she does, but you aren't supposed to see more deeply-- she is. You are supposed to be infuriated-- that's why she looks more deeply. She doesn't like him, she likes what liking him says about her. She likes what your hating him says about her.
mircea_popescu: If you are tempted to look more deeply (if you're watching it, it's for you)-- like the smitten girl does-- you'd see this appearance first, then through it: "if you got to know him, you'd see he's really a...!" And then you'd pat yourself on the back for having intellectual courage to not judge by appearances! But you've been fooled by the commercial art illusion, thinking that because you saw through the illusion, th
mircea_popescu: He's dressing himself in red lines, tempting you to see if they're real or not.
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/jay-z_is_a_genius.html << this shit is beautiful.
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ascii_field: looks not so different from my desk, except that i can't bring myself to eat there
mircea_popescu: i had the fucking box packed specially for a monitor lifter.
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ascii_field: to the ceiling ?
ascii_field: the sort that one normally stuffs behind drywall
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: rumour has it there are still usg facilities that have problems with the newfangled electric things. fbi headquarters (the brutalist monster death start in washington) has, i'm told, ethernet snakes on the floor
mircea_popescu: not through any fault of his. it's what the text says, on account of it being written in romanian for romanians.
ascii_field: 'how many connections and interfaces they have for every communication device I would want to use' << l0l, srsly!!? 'come to us, we have thicknet and token ring!!'
mircea_popescu: " what a hottie of a secretary " << no. pointedly not. what a miracleworker they employ in the front desk.
gabrielradio: one of the best articles of trilema imho
ascii_field: Algorithm 4, we can unmask the 4-byte values returned in a status VSC response to reveal ”raw” RNG bytes from the hardware side. Since this is done pre-authentication, any attacker can generate this from any locked drive.'
ascii_field: 'Another, even better, way that can be executed pre-authentication was found later. In fact, when looking deeper into the firmware code we noticed every time the status VSC is called, the raw RNG bytes are masked with a static value. This static 4-byte value, 0x271828af, is xored with the 4-byte RNG output. Further this value is xored with the last 4-byte SY N value before sending the value to the host computer. Using the
mircea_popescu: as a result, no amount of pain suffering or violence could have matured the individual. on the contrary - it drove infantilization.
mircea_popescu: it was in fact exactly the same : an exercise in esteem engineering.
mircea_popescu: ironically, auschwitz has a LOT more in common with the "boost self esteem" version of us schools than with actual education.
ascii_field: the folks who came to think that 'this is the real me now' threw themselves on the wire
ascii_field: one way or another - it was..
mircea_popescu: there's good reason adolescents hate waking up
ascii_field: i never did or saw either
mircea_popescu: but the adolescent wakes up with "i wonder what insane demands will my chosen identity put on me THIS TIME"
mircea_popescu: adolescence is not childhood. the child wakes up with what SEEMS "what shall i do to amuse himself", except to him it';s a dealdy grind.
ascii_field: is auschwitz man 'the real him' ?
mircea_popescu: just like that, go to school, take a job that's "not the real you", on it goes.
ascii_field: he 'grows up', which means he no longer wakes up and thinks 'what shall i do to amuse myself' but 'off to the salt mine' and when comes home 'what do i eat and have i enough spare change?' and then tired, and then again a day of living death
mircea_popescu: what franklin spoke of was a different time. a time when adulthood was unavoidable, and as such lazy people simply succumbed to the hollow form. "hey, if no kid can tell me from any other adult, why bother."
ascii_field: (i am told there is actually a subculture of 'hipster keyboards' but they are not collecting 1980s workhorses but actual oddity art objects, of mahogany, ...)
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> how is this a mistake? << see there. i don't say such.
ascii_field: to the point that just about everyone i know in meatspace bought what i had...
ascii_field: there are not so many cigars
mircea_popescu: so : we can sit right here and smoke the same cigar for different reasons altogether.
mircea_popescu: and there she is, the cat, with her smile that deserves a caning just for that. she knows what she's doing, quite exactly. so what now ?
mircea_popescu: lemme see if you ever had this experience. was it ever the case that you enjoyed a product, only to be confronted with some idiot enjoying the same product for the "wrong reasons" ?
mircea_popescu: this could, apparently, be misinterpreted as a reduction of individuality. but it'd take a teen to make the mistake.
ascii_field: (although limonov is prolly not the metric here, as he was almost entirely the same animal as orwell - complete with 'ritual' visit to a war, even got to fire a rifle, yes! cummed in his pants)
mircea_popescu: they individuate out of this, maybe, into adulthood. ironically, adults are apparently a lot more similar than the adolsecents are.
mircea_popescu: the big secret being that juveniles have no soul. they're not individuals, they're the zerg creep.
mircea_popescu: the irony here, true, unadorned irony of the greek sort, is that the champion of the faux, out of a misguided desire for authenticity metastasized out of his own problems with the faux and handles thereof, stuck to the infantile version instead of individuating into the adult.
mircea_popescu: it is generally hoped that in this they also BECOME
mircea_popescu: and sure, a bunch of boys get married because who they want to be.
ascii_field: i suspect there is a 'cargo cult' aspect - they can see other people laugh, and say 'i could also laugh!'
mircea_popescu: sense of humor, you know ? there's a reason all the frustrated dudes on forums picked this from a sea of random crap.
mircea_popescu: and he wants a girl - if only the women would understand how great a sense of humor he has.
ascii_field: a good number of people were there for identical reason as mr o
mircea_popescu: see, all the other dudes are there for whatever reasons - he's there because of who he wants to be. "the sort of guy who fights in the civil war - if only the latrines weren't barbed wired"
mircea_popescu: soldiering it was, but his protestations make it obvious he didn't reallyt have any business there.