Mocky: for motorcycles tho, they check lights and tires only. NC is not strict like NY, more like how asciilifeform describes.
Mocky: a couple years ago they bumped the penalty for fake sticker up from violation to misdemeanor. and also added it to the auto-plate-scanning-database system in most cop cars so alarm goes off for cop every time a car with expired inspection in the morning database goes past.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 17:14 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they have this testing office here, they give you a stamp that the car is up to spect technically, good for 1 year. (good measure too, the tubs these people drove before it... jesus f. even now you see trucks dead in middle of onramp cuz unmaintained engine finally croaked etc)
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905680 << same deal in NY state, very strict for autos, long list of items checked. any one fails then whole inspection fails.
BingoBoingo: In the Forever War facts stumbled upon, apparently John Walker Lindh is set to be released May 23rd.
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906118 << a situation billymg is familiar with firsthand. thankfully, i'll soon be seeking asylum in the Lone Star state
feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/03/the-mp-wp-weightloss-program/ << billymg -- The mp-wp weightloss program
diana_coman: " Were Trilema as small as you ever wish it to be, an ephemeride living its day of life in the shadow of the largest Egyptian pyramid, yet what would be the deepest difference between Trilema and that pyramid ? Not density, nor size, nor duration in time nor anything like that, but the one fundamental fact, that while the little insect lives, however shortly, however precariously, the pyramid does not, and never has." -> Caragiale ref spotted!
billymg: Mocky: updated mp-wp patch and sig available here: http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud.vpatch http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud.vpatch.billymg.sig
mircea_popescu: you don't mean "One time I want to draw your attention to #selection-387.154-389.22 while some other time #selection-43.21-43.46 is the point of interest." ? that's deliberate!
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/#comment-128755 << mega-likbez, btw, imho belongs in the log
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-saddest-thing-in-the-world/ << Trilema -- The saddest thing in the world...
mircea_popescu: just like in their view, the fact that they befouled science with their politico idiocy means something about science. they didn't, by their lights, made the profession of "earth scientist" nigh on impossible for the average man. they, on the contrary, are forcing my hand when it comes to such topics.
asciilifeform: i.e. 'dun matter that you took the sweat to write it in king's english, we're gonna throw hieroglyphs in' ?
mircea_popescu: so in their view, the fact that the uniturds ~are already there~ binds us to forever keeping them.
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean, you will burn ALL the books ?!?!" "of course i will, keks."
mircea_popescu: the most disconcerting thing to pantsuit is the http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ stance.
mircea_popescu: a mistake powered by the fact that up until they came about tradition consisted of naggum's library. so of copurse thinking man wouldn't part with it.
mircea_popescu: they perceive that opposition===conservative and their understanding of "conservative" is "would never break with tradition"
mircea_popescu: the evil wreckers of the 90s were systematic in their dedication to destruction (called "democracy" and "humanism" whatevber bla bla in-universe)
asciilifeform: i cant fathom presently why that is even in there. but possibly this q dun have a logical answr
asciilifeform: when i get a chance to fiddle with my wp again, tho, would 1st like to find & kill the uniturdation thing
mircea_popescu: "since stuffing buttplugs in all the slavegirls buttholes, there's 0 HS in the toilet gastrap. and their assholes still work, i checked -- though they never saw much use before either."
asciilifeform: ( it's the stock ancient-wp trap )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in olds, asciilifeform's 'xor 2 small numbers'+'say fg baud' spam filter seems to be 100% effective (a 1st?!) -- 0 spams in trap since installed ( legit comments , not many , but work -- tho there were never many )
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 05:41 BingoBoingo: In other undyings, apparently mozilla now exists to keep Java runtime alive https://archive.is/PhKa8
BingoBoingo: What can I say, the future is autocorrupt
mircea_popescu: (which is actually quite close to reality ; certainly way the fuck close than anything reported by usg bureaucracy)
BingoBoingo: In other undyings, apparently mozilla now exists to keep Java runtime alive https://archive.is/PhKa8
BingoBoingo: And oddity of oddities, the link to Gawker.com resolves alive
BingoBoingo: Pretty much this https://longform.org/posts/my-kasual-kountry-weekend-with-the-knights-of-the-ku-klux-klan
BingoBoingo: NOT EVERYTHING IS MEANT TO BE MARRIED TO EVERYOTHER THING
BingoBoingo: The eniggament
mircea_popescu: it's how traditional marriage works, neh ? "can divorce the stupid cunt through the process of finding her a hubstitute. can also divorce prison or military service the same way"
BingoBoingo: "CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY HAVE THAT SHIT IN THEIR CONTRACT? IF I HAD KNOWN THAT WAS EVEN A POSSIBILITY I WOULD HAVE TRIED TO GET THAT IN MY OWN DAMN CONTRACT. YOU CAN’T LAY ME OFF, EVER? YOU MUST FIND ME A NEW JOB IN PERPETUITY? I HAVE BECOME KING OF THE WORKPLACE AND ALL I SURVEY. THE MIGHTY UNION HAS GRANTED US ALL A JOB FOR LIFE. BOW DOWN."
BingoBoingo: Nah, the wannabe muscle dude. Looks almost exactly like Stomer's Anglin in 320x240 photos
mircea_popescu: is this the dumb fat fuck from iowa ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, last I checked the corpse, Hamilton Nolan still not fired because he's the op's Political Officer.
BingoBoingo: The seacritters to eat here... are lacking in variety
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 19:28 mircea_popescu: because they're talking veneto.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-14#1896552 : smoked sprats served with penne al'olio, with vinegar pickles on the side and a sprinkling of capers is easily the most representatively venetian dish i ever had -- notwithstanding as far as i know i just invented it in my own kitchen
BingoBoingo: Seriously. Lately I've been enjoying the private satisfaction of Colita de Cuadril passing "Suprema de Ave" as the premium protein per peso cut of critter
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking lulzy to look back in the timeline and stumble over perfect calls.
asciilifeform fixed the apparently inevitable broken link in 18
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: "Gawker was an American blog founded by Nick Denton and Elizabeth Spiers and based in New York City focusing on celebrities and the media industry.[3] The blog promoted itself as "the source for daily Manhattan media news and gossip." According to third-party web analytics provider SimilarWeb, the site had over 23 million visits per month as of 2015. Current status Defunct as of August 22nd, 2016"
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/radical-feminism-in-the-romanian-fin-de-siecle/ << Trilema -- Radical feminism in the Romanian fin de siecle
BingoBoingo: <deedbot> Invoiced asciilifeform 3 << Pizarro Second Round pt 1, 4th and 5th pending << Slipped the !!v in the other window
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i hate to create headache, but plox to cut it into a 3 and a 1 , i'ma fill the 3 nao and the 1 when my hot noad actually syncs ( loox like ~wk left )
asciilifeform: grr loox like i haven't filled it up to 4 either , nm
asciilifeform: hmm is the thing wedged or wat
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty. plox to ping me week or so prior so i can start the gears moving
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: aite, End of April is when we need to get the datacenter the next cash infusion.
asciilifeform: then can settle faster
asciilifeform: spyked: ty for the ping , item got literally buried under pile of papers. dug it up nao , and i'ma post it tomorrow morning.
spyked: in spyked updates: aside from polishing feedbot part 2, I've also been playing with http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-29#1906050 in the last coupla days. I'll post on blog with the results soon
diana_coman: it is in its own dir and project because that's what it is - a project that tests the code of interest.
diana_coman: billymg the tests I have are simply automated ada and/or c/cpp tests for the code, nothing v-specific really; from V's pov it's just code like the rest.
mircea_popescu: billymg, no, the idea is that you maintain a test suite.
billymg: diana_coman: related to the test branch idea, if you have anything of yours you could point me to, for figuring out a v-centric testing flow, would be appreciated
asciilifeform: phf: i found & removed the last uniturd ( was in the manifest.txt , from the day i made it ) . this however means that there in fact lies a uniturd in the 18 patch ( the removal line , naturally . ) after this i expect no moar .
billymg: in terms of test suite, i didn't actually write any automated tests for mp-wp, i only meant the manual testing i did, plus reading my own patch a few times
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 17:14 mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch.
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905107 < i like the idea of a dev branch alongside a production branch. is the idea that after after a patch (or set of patches) is deemed mature enough it will then be added to the main branch?
asciilifeform: if anyone's impatient, i'll link to the vpatch/seal, otherwise it'll wait for the text
asciilifeform: meanwhile, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch18/ffa_calc__adb.htm << final ch18 ; still working on the accompanying text
asciilifeform: $item was interesting largely for the description of eltsin-era navy , what with 'get spare parts somewhere, we won't say where' , 'you'll be paid next year' , questionable rations, boats sinking in dock, & related joys
asciilifeform: ( the 48,000 tonne thing, btw, in natostan called for some reason 'typhoon', rather than the smaller. pretty interesting machine in own right, largest undersea vessel ever built )
asciilifeform recently read a pretty spiffy , and i dare say mircea_popescu-flavoured ( good % was re how, where, whom, the folx fucked ) memoir of sovok 'akula' sub officer in '90s. d00d was moar or less 'meat computer'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, they ~had~ servos ; and even had pdp-like comp ; but did not trust the latter to connect to the former
mircea_popescu: these days, with robotic rodding....
asciilifeform: granted the jp item not as efficient, if you recall it's the pellet thing , built for constant output
asciilifeform: ( for comparison, standard sovok sub reactor, somewhat larger affair, approx the size of mircea_popescu's bmw , was good for 20-30y of 300-400 MW )
asciilifeform: at the wattage a reasonably-sized brit lord's house might theoretically have appetite for, the fuel would last for century or 2
asciilifeform: the ultimate aga.
asciilifeform: that's gotta be the key.
mircea_popescu: london is a shithole. half the year wet and cold.
asciilifeform: marketed to same landed gentry folx who e.g. kept own coal-fired generators stocked 24/7 on the estate , in early days of electric light
asciilifeform: as it is, i dun fully grasp the appeal
asciilifeform: how else to explain the 'feature' where 'you dun need to light it! burns and burns'
mircea_popescu: it worked because aforesaid british embassy set, and so everyone going to port in english ports bought coal. so they subsidized.
mircea_popescu: this, quite exactly ~this~ is the substance of hitler's lament, " It is similar in the world. It just does not work, to have 46 million British people block 40 million km² of earth and simply declare: God gave it to us, and 20 years ago we got some from you too; this is ours now, and will not give it back. And France, And France with its not very fertile earth, almost 80 people on a square kilometer, yet they have over 9
asciilifeform: 'The AGA is the only cooker in the world with a guaranteed maximum fuel consumption. It is guaranteed to burn less than £4 worth of fuel a year….. Stress the fact that no cook can make her AGA burn more fuel than this, however stupid, extravagant or careless she may be, or however much she may cook. If more fuel is consumed, it is being stolen, and the police should be called in immediately' << strikes me as peculiar claim ( what,
asciilifeform: i suspect largely evaporated by '30s tho ; so not sure what the author was thinking
mircea_popescu: but in any case, the reasonably well to do man in the city kept dozen+ females + half dozen males in bread and shoes with little difficulty, and plenty of dough leftover for consols.
mircea_popescu: these latter were sometimes used as venereal-undiseased fuckrelief for the older son ; but generally, it's a harem with very little fucking going around.
mircea_popescu: the male staff was generally butler, gardener, chauffeur, one or two handymen [plus, of course, all the military folk, in older times]. the female staff was a maid for the wife, a maid or nanny for each child, a main cook, possibly a help, and a pair to n indistinct maids, brushing the silverware, abrading the tables one layer each week, scrubbing the floors etc.
asciilifeform: and ubiquitous terminology there to this day, survived revolution and eltsins alike, парадный вход / черный вход ( 'parade entrance' , i.e. for people, 'black entrance' , i.e. for servants + garbage )
mircea_popescu: the butler (head servant) generally opened the front door ; the head maid did not open the back door -- usually you'd get one of the scullery maids.
asciilifeform: as i understand 'aga' is ~the~ prototype for the current-day ubiquitous kitchen stove
mircea_popescu: back before roosevelt and his successors permanently fixed the quality of life, a man's household (in which he kept a single woman and her issue, plus some servants) had a front door for peers and a back door for servants and suppliers
asciilifeform: ( most ameri-housing either has no back door , or glass thing that goes into fenced yard and defo no marketer would ever go there, liable to be bitten by dog or worse )
asciilifeform: very obv from the '30s brit orig
asciilifeform: 'There are certain universal rules. Dress quietly and shave well. Do not wear a bowler hat. Go to the back door (most salesmen go to the front door, a manoeuvre always resented by maid and mistress alike)'
mircea_popescu: it's like the fucktards are trying to build an empire on knives, but bereft of a blade and missing a handle.
mircea_popescu: his other advice ? study!
mircea_popescu: note that the core of the advice the chief practitioner of what's left of us economy consists of... !!!!!!DO NOT!!!!!!! pretend to lordship!!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, might appreciate https://www.agamarvel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/aga_ogilvy_booklet.pdf ; rathert a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764714 item, at least by the lights of the anglos.
BingoBoingo: Well, how could they when they went from Seward through the end of WWII without Europe slapping them?
mircea_popescu: i suppose one can't fairly discuss the matter without pointing out that the ogilvy-derivative concept of "pr agency" is precisely this, witness to the usg's self-aware failure to develop a diplomatic service and a woprking embassy network, leaving the english as the last practitioner of the florentine art.
mircea_popescu: you don't get much done, you're uncomfortable while it's happening, and they have very strange notions of ritual purity, unparalleled even by the shiite.
BingoBoingo: As opposed to the stories I have heard from US embassy.
mircea_popescu: the old woman wanted to know if she maybe has a lot of castles-in-spain style "unknwon inheritance", typical argentine thought process.
mircea_popescu: when i visited the one in argentina, they were just entertaining a local older woman with a pile of 1910s era letters from her romanian-immigrated ancestors.
mircea_popescu: generally there's a girly around ready to hand some fliers or w/e to whatever adventurous locals.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, romania does a lot of things right though i suspect by accident. ie, none of the idiotic glass walsl, either, you visit you sit down in front of old style desk, like sane people.
BingoBoingo: Romania has the obligatory "Sleep on this stoop and you get fucked" fence to keep the pichis off the porch, but otherwise clear walk to the door.
mircea_popescu: ie, if the locals wanna come over, you wanna not let them ?! wtf, are you fucked in the head ? and then go about spending money to makle events to raise profile ? while at the same time throwing away the freely had curious visitors ?
mircea_popescu: the fencing's the other fucking thing. who the fuck heard of fenced in embassies anyways.
BingoBoingo: I mean it has mega fence, but... the place is just about a country club minus the land for golfing.
mircea_popescu: ah yeah, the uk embassies. that was a lulz of all time during the "union" while it lasted -- the brits had the first useful, and perhaps the last functioning, embassy network.
mircea_popescu: (very typically EMPTY, an eu embassy, too. besides purely ceremonial "third cousin of president/king taking vacation", there's ~nothing happening)
mircea_popescu: the euros are the saddest of them all -- they dun have the state entreprises, notrly, and they dun have the other half either, not really, it's a wonder they persevere.
mircea_popescu: no such thing still available, from white world embassies, at least not at the level where it should be. the iranis, eg, still do this for their citizens. the usgtards don't because they have no citizens, it's all govt entreprises and plebs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, one aspect of this is fo sho : traditional (with a view of only) function of embassy is as "den of corruption", ie, they acquire over time intimate knowledge of detail, can help you do things.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can use any eu embassy indistinctly. at least in theory. in practice -- they're fucked.
mircea_popescu: well, they did this, ro-nl are in such a compact.
asciilifeform: there was no e.g. 'embassy of latvia', only of sovok
asciilifeform: rly they oughtta take a page from the old sovok, and unify the thing, save on cost of printing stationary
mircea_popescu: you got me there.
asciilifeform: rright and when no army, what then means embassy ?
mircea_popescu: it seems to me a ridoinculous chunk of nonsense, "embassy was never upgraded". tell you what -- an army is a group of men assembled to rectify the mistakes of diplomats. the only item more keenly in synch with technology is the embassy -- step ahead of military.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 18:09 asciilifeform: gotta wonder re the thought process. door clearly marked 'If you don't know where you are, you shouldn't be here.' eh .
mircea_popescu: rando schmucks drop in here every day, fail the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905146 test with flying colors, they could be fiat sovereign diplomatic core without skipping a bit. becauise the pretenders factually and experimentally verifiedly are quite that inept, yes.
mircea_popescu: they just fucking googled, general purpose tool applied to particular task, 0 shits given.
mircea_popescu: lassmates' phone numbers as a first step to successful sexual congress, but not these dorks.
mircea_popescu: moeover, the 2nd function of embassy is to collect data. legally, not illegally, it's not the secret service, it's the diplomatic service. what confidence would you as a putative ivan groznii put in data flowing through your embassies when these sad concoctions were manned by idiots so fucking inept, they don't even have a black book with the phone numbers of ~their fucking colleagues~. every 15yo boy has a book with his c
mircea_popescu: whereas the less they use it, the more the greek state could claim they're in fact greek merchants, and tax them instead.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary -- the more turkish merchants rely on this service of the turkish state through its embassy, the better for the turkish state, it can better convince them to pay taxes.
mircea_popescu: that's what embassy does, if joe the turkish merchant is in greece, and he decides he wants to give moe the turkish merchant his ankara house to manage, the turkish embassy in greece takes some paper from him and sends it over.
asciilifeform: then i got nuffin
mircea_popescu: embassy is 99% of the time support for local businessmen.
mircea_popescu: that;d be the consular section.
asciilifeform: where's the operative diff ? embassy is 99% of the time 'tech support' for immigration paper
mircea_popescu: this is the ~advertising~.
mircea_popescu: they gain exactly nothing from their failure to self-represent, exactly like a hidden mcdonalds does nothing to forward the aggenda of rooseveletism
asciilifeform: recall how ameri-corps run their 'tech support'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so you make it larger, wtf. this is like saying "if anyone who wanted a happy meal could get one, place would look like disneyworld":. the fucking point is for it to yes, do just that. entire existence of the fiat sovereigns is ~predicatged~ on people doing just this.
asciilifeform: i suspect that if all-comers could actually submit the paper , place would looke like sovok 'avir'
mircea_popescu: the item as encountered in practice is ~equivalent to the sovok era "telephone receiver locked in box"
mircea_popescu: yes lol! all they do is fuck with paperwork, literally their job is "endpoint of X supposed sovereign in Y supposed sovereign lands"
asciilifeform: or gotta 'unprincipled exception' to even ~begin~ to do the job
asciilifeform: rright but could do their job , if in fact findable 'like mcdonalds' ?
mircea_popescu: they don't do anything else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nevermind what i preferred, specifically. it is literally the extent of their job, to be found, this particular set. that's all they're for, like a mcdonalds.
asciilifeform: as plebe , asciilifeform would in fact prefer if they said up-front ' if yer mother didn't go to school with his majesty's , dun bother knocking ' , it'd waste less of his time
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 18:09 mircea_popescu: no markings are clear in modern democracy. it's written in the constitution : everyone is to be idemnified for all things they do not read.
mircea_popescu: i'm just amused at attempt to look at it from other side.
mircea_popescu: im not saying there's something wrong from my side, keks.
asciilifeform: ( and if 'but i'm mircea_popescu , why would i have to stand in queue' --guesswat , already didn't have to , eh. so where is the problem with the mechanism of why didn't have to ? )
asciilifeform: as for the diplomats , would mircea_popescu even prefer that 'allcomers' could actually find'em ?
asciilifeform: dodo is exactly the model
asciilifeform: at least far as the sheep are concerned , 'i aint been eaten yet, so wats the problem' etc
asciilifeform: i.e. how many are of these chix, vs how many did mircea_popescu eat
asciilifeform: all that's req'd is for there to be <1 cheeta for >1 battallion of ostrich
mircea_popescu: rather, the fact that the ostrich doesn't see the cheetah's a guarantee -- of the cheeta's inexistence.
mircea_popescu: somehow, magically, the fact that the cheetah sees the ostrich is not a guarantee of the ostrich's death.
asciilifeform: while the actual nomenklatura has entirely working list for own use
a111: Logged on 2014-03-19 20:59 asciilifeform: petent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or whatever theyre called now, non-lethal something or the other) to correctly handle them. They have the chemicals, theyve done the research, know the behavioural patterns, have the walls all built to
asciilifeform: in this position ( as in the telco anecdote ) asciilifeform would simply suppose that the public facade is cheap camo , and has ~0 to do with the actual internal wot
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 17:59 asciilifeform: ( aaand of course they marked it as 'canonical answer' , for then google to auto-return, etc .. )
mircea_popescu: and at no fucking point does this drastic disparity bother the morons at all. i can tell you where any random leah lives, and what she last ate, or when she ate last, but then http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905769 as fucking if.
mircea_popescu: talk about connectivity, right ? who heard of what and who knows what and "hurr durr, embassy but dunno phone numbers, not even of the other dorks in the same line from the same place" and so fucking on.
mircea_popescu: her answer to "wtf ios wrong with you" was "well, i never heard of the others, so they don't exist" ; but the REASON that was the answer was that ~i~ knew who the fuck she was within two hours, because guess what, my mother of all people actually knew her.
asciilifeform: i suspect that if zimbabwe were offered to 'join europe' in the sense of 'get payola like greece' , would immediately join, noshit
mircea_popescu: but to put the lulz of the original http://trilema.com/2009/doua-curve/ in context : so i come back to romania cca 2007, and some chick is making a "top of romanians in online" which is fulla names i never saw before and contains nobody of the people atthe time i knew made and turrned the net.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-22 14:54 mircea_popescu: the fundamental argentinian-ness of the human mind, "oh, ok, this is what i get paid, now how could i move down what i gottaq do for it ?" really needs the british imperial "fuck you, you don't eat" as typified by lord newton.
mircea_popescu: it failed over the designated-white-devil's objection to throwing the curve as well as the owned pleb's objection that "they shouldn't have to do shoes every day".
a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 18:21 asciilifeform: stalin followed peter's 'colonization with the crown as sole european' model.
asciilifeform: 'grandfather rode camel, i ride merc 600, but my grandson will also ride camel' -- i fughet who , in petrostan , but well-known
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 22:36 mircea_popescu: but yes, ceausescu's imperialist plans were obviously going to fail by the time mid 70s turned around, and were well and thoroughly doomed in 1980.
mircea_popescu: i suppose qatar doesn'rt either -- white devils come to extract. in any case this is how it went back in ceausescu days. whole http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1902161 reduces to "man attempted to turn romanians into the white devil"
asciilifeform: entirely possib that if qatar did not have the brits show up to drill , would be still fucking camels nao
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from my admittedly distant perch , seems that argentina is even further stage of retardation than qatar -- has all kindsa mineral extractables, but manages not even to qatar
mircea_popescu: seems that there is in fact a "mentality of the idiot", and quite readily recognized, hence ready http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905630 recognitions.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 16:19 asciilifeform: historically, by sharp stick. at least in the case of what's ordinarily called lottery. cuz winning dun banish from the head the cockroaches that made'em play to begin with
mircea_popescu: poor people are poor people BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE, and wealth dun fix this.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in retrospect http://trilema.com/2016/petty-private-satisfactions/#footnote_0_67595 goes exceedinglky well with http://mocky.org/inshAllah/ ; being exactly the same thing and self-evidently BEFORE the "success". ie, the quatari aren't thus ruined by their windfall -- their pre-existing mental cockroaches are merely evinced by the windfall, but absent that they'd have the same "mental processes", as argentines in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reich is just about at the stage where 'whaddayamean, butter, says right on the jar' 'it's fulla liquishit' 'that's what is butter'
mircea_popescu: royal fambly, supposedly. in the sense netherlands is a sovereign, or embassies of these papie mache constructions exist.
asciilifeform: based on my naked eye survey of the grounds, the mains transformers could not actually support 'adult sized' colo. and usg dun like small colos, they want http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-25#1904728 , 'all the bodies in 1 hole', so to easier 'we will we will beat'
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Db9ebU8VQAEksT4.jpg << item. wtf is that, the local supermarket manager and his wife ?
asciilifeform: thing was/is 1 of the major local landmarks, not only in sheer mass but in clear 'vhs era' provenance, what with brick and marble facade with little angel frescoes etc
asciilifeform: but there it was, as opaque as anyffin in eltsin's ru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ownership of telcoisms in usa also nominally matter of official record, at least since at&t divestiture
asciilifeform: fwiw thing, from what can be seen through the windows ( in those days built with , believe, windows.. ) largely (but not entirely) empty.
mircea_popescu: which is quite substantially different from matters eminently of record, such as "who are, truly, the intended and delcared diplomatic endpoints of so and so pretend-sovereign"
asciilifeform: naturally not, there wasn't a money-takin' hole that could be gotten to with naked eye.
mircea_popescu: they lie. simply not open to public.
mircea_popescu: because at the very least, when alf goes to meet bingoboingo, he doesn't start yelling at airport.
asciilifeform: called up the $monopoly whose plaquard was on the side of bldg. after 4 hrs of phone tag, 'we sold it to $co-nobody-heard-of, it aint ours'
mircea_popescu: and then these things flatter themselves with (purely hallucinated) statehood. yet in any practical sense, the troop of retards posing as "reigning house" of the netherlands (have you seen them btw ?) is sitting atop something infinitely less statal than this here republic.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform found out that the local copper telco bldg ( a princely 1950s fortress-like thing, with 2 metre-thick walls , diesels, 8 stories of space , etc ) was -- like most similars -- nao a dc colo. so went, naively, to try to price a rack ;
mircea_popescu: i actually had to fall back on my own secret service background to extract through THAT AVENUE the information that she needed in such a packaging and under such wot signaturs as i could trust, because god fucking help me if she was gonna send shit to random endpoints "culled from the www"
mircea_popescu: these two countries are not mere neighbours, nor mere allies, but part together of a fucking compact! and yet, the consul has no notion of his correspondents, nor even is their administration advanced enough to provide its diplomats with that most basic tool of all : a fucking list of names and contact details of the ALLIES!!! representatitves.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-16 19:09 mircea_popescu: They work to boost revenue by offering an extended warranty or a service plan (made necessary by frequent breakdowns), charging for premium customer service (made necessary by their normal customer service, which consists of a robotic phone maze backed by a few trainees in India who just read aloud from Company B's public web site in a listless, stuttering monotone) and offering numerous enhancements and upgrades (made
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758238 << speaking of, here's some lulz. so i had recently occasion to employ the services of the consul of teh koninkrijk der nederlanden in san jose to interface some diplomatic business with the romanian mission not present here for my convenience.
asciilifeform: ( won't even touch the subj of how the sovok box designers never even entertained as a joke the notion that it'd prevent operator from running certain proggies )
asciilifeform: when you bought a e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-15#1896849 , got moar schematics than ~anyone knew what to do with , right in the box . but when buy ipnoje, what you really buy is... what? the privilege to pay crapple for next 1 in 6 mo...
mircea_popescu: god knows it informs a lot of the strategic and systems design work at the core of the republic.
asciilifeform: the 'konsoomer economy' derps are married to not understanding it, so not mega-surprise
mircea_popescu: tbh, the industrial reductionism of "better make one good car than three differently bad ones" is perhaps the most notable result to come out of the great soviet industrial experiment. and, amusingly enough, still very poorly understood, as illustrated in all sort and manner of lulz such as say http://trilema.com/2010/masini-bune-si-masini-de-lux/#selection-53.131-53.445
a111: Logged on 2014-07-16 19:04 mircea_popescu: "Suppose you have a company that sets out to make a widget. Let's call it Company A. Its founders are all engineers, of an uncompromising sort, and the widget they design and manufacture is of tremendous longevity, durability and overall quality." << hey check out orlov.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:43 asciilifeform: 'Suppose you have a company that sets out to make a widget. Let's call it Company A. Its founders are all engineers, of an uncompromising sort, and the widget they design and manufacture is of tremendous longevity, durability and overall quality.... When consumers refuse to pay so much more than they feel they have to, Company A's widget fails in the marketplace, and the company is liquidated.'
asciilifeform: even the 'shite materials of sovok' comes with an asterisk. there was no impetus for intel-style 'market stratification', so if it was overall +ev to have ~all~ clocks use ruby and beryllium copper gears, then all would, had no reason to have 2 production lines when could 1
asciilifeform: the amers seem to have worked from the start on 'how to make the shittiest item from these fine materials', sovok opposite, 'how to make the strongest design from these shite materials'
mircea_popescu: mechanical table clocks in us very truthful witness to the "we too"ism of the place, in the sense it is contemplated here.
asciilifeform actually dug up the orig schem + repair text, when was repairing
asciilifeform: the sov item is closer to an enlarged copy of swiss pocket movement
asciilifeform: i had nfi these also existed
asciilifeform: there it is !
mircea_popescu: and more 16 than 18, at that. nevertheless -- maybe you lucked out. "should you be able to bend a solid gold watch ?"
asciilifeform: even my sovok alarm clock keeps to <1s/day (yes sovok made alarm clocks with rubies, thermocompensated spring, etc. i could not say exactly why, prolly same factory made for submarine as for desktop ... )
mircea_popescu: you know, old watches did need to be set every day. we even discussed this in the logs, as to the function of big ben etc.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what all this "canonical" bs ever does. eg, they invented some alt- mircea_popescu a few years ago, to auto-return, great expert bla bla. did ~nothing, sunk back into the gavinvat.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-28 16:22 asciilifeform: before taking off , decided to buy sumthing from the carpet men, and bought a pocket watch. appeared to be keeping correct time, spiffy-looking '20s german thing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905566 << did you ever say the how here ? wtf half-confession was this.
asciilifeform: ( aaand of course they marked it as 'canonical answer' , for then google to auto-return, etc .. )
asciilifeform: btw recall the one re phuctor ?
asciilifeform: heathendom afaik is moar or less bone dry at this pt
asciilifeform does particularly enjoy the maffs thrds
mircea_popescu: re-reading today it occurs to me... you know we're having some fucking excellent discussions these days ?
asciilifeform: optical , btw, will handily do the bolix job, when comes time, with oil-immersion objective.
mircea_popescu: "ticabus", ie, local operator, actually on their website roll.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, whai not. i never looked at it before, because i'm a loyal kind. but the way the germans are going... yes, of course eventually you lose me.
mircea_popescu: one of those cases where yes it makes difference to have 300 rather than 30 hp available.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 16:38 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu earlier suggested , 'boltzmann distrib' of coffee speck velocities, almost certainly has high end that grinds pieces of your vessel into the output
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to it : the large rocks are one thing, but if you drive over macadam say (which is not inconceivable here, and yes on a grade with hairpins, whynot) there's very much a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735165 sorta affair : for any arbitrary energy, you will get X many rocks per hour, or mile.