mats: folks reading along, that are having trouble divining the meaning of 'RAP': http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-10-2015#1307787
mircea_popescu: the dispute is deeper than that. he just doesn't want to work towards fixing the current paradigm. which i guess is fine. you apparently do. imo this is also fine, that's why there's two of you, so you can be in two places at the same time.
mats: look: i get the allergic response. your hyperbole dial is set to 10, however...
mats: this is patent nonsense. do you run your boxes with aslr on? then some classes of exploits usg may use against you could certainly involve rop gadgets. then, 'RAP' may prevent code execution.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 18:13:33; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308948 << disingenuous to bring it back to 'but we gotta raise the cost for attackerz' while carefully omitting to mention that in ALL OF THESE 'mitigation' derpitudes 'attacker' invariably, INESCAPABLY really means 'attackers other than usg'
mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1309017 << disingenuous, because all agents of usg are entrusted with masterpwn key? mitigations do not raise the cost of exploitation, even for usg? because, last i checked, they use kits like everybody else in the game.
assbot: The Nordic System, a new novel by Mircea Popescu on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KDYeIu )
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 19:03:59; mircea_popescu: but i got an idea of a graphic novel, suddeenly : in this crapsack world in which the implementation of the "jews eating babies"/"white slavers" moral panic / fetish is actual farms to literally produce baby viande as per the modest proposal, it is discovered that ringworm infection of the abdomen in 2nd trimester females results in tastier, if very strangely diformed veal.
assbot: The goldfish telling the great white shark what life’s like in the ocean, and other logical fallacies. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6pIga )
pete_dushenski: re : http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/18/the-goldfish-telling-the-great-white-shark-what-lifes-like-in-the-ocean-and-other-logical-fallacies/
mircea_popescu: this. they thing "oh, patria si buitres no", "soberania" blablabla. then talk football and peronismo. and don't matter. and it's ok, because THEIR FRIENDS see them as people.
mircea_popescu: "Let's take all this at face value. Is he entitled? Delusional? I don't doubt for a moment he sincerely believes he is a lawyer, because lawyer for him isn't a profession or even a job, it's a label, a code word for a kind of intellectualism he wants for himself. As long as "all of my friends see me as..." it was well worth the cost. He didn't study to become an attorney, he bought a back-up identity." << exactly
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 18:14:25; asciilifeform: it is in fact the very definition of sabotage.
mircea_popescu: funyn thing being that they seem blisfully unaware of this.
mircea_popescu: i ocasionally encounter derps living the delusions of the foregoing, who i threaten and they go away.
mircea_popescu: every productive anything is held by the azns.
mircea_popescu: He gives a slight shrug and a smile as he heads back to work. "It could be worse," he says. "It's not like they can put me jail."
mircea_popescu: "Bank bailouts, company bailouts -- I don't know, we're the generation of bailouts," he says in a hallway during a break from his Peak Discovery job. "And like, this debt of mine is just sort of, it's a little illusory. I feel like at some point, I'll negotiate it away, or they won't collect it."
mircea_popescu: Unless, somehow, the debt just goes away. Another of Mr. Wallerstein's techniques for remaining cool in a serious financial pickle: believe that the pickle might somehow disappear.
mircea_popescu: everyone in argentina is a lawyer btw. im telling you, this country is the logical conclusion of that country.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck could never do that!
mircea_popescu: "They understand I'm in a lot of debt, but I've done something they feel they could never do and the respect and admiration is important." [my edit: he isn't actually practicing law.]"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this is where i go "had he spent the 350k on bitcoin in 2011, he'd have a little over 500k-1.5mn a year now"
pete_dushenski: because corporate lawyers work 80 hours a week and sop up their tears with $500k - $1.5 mn a year.
mircea_popescu: "It's a prestige thing," he says. "I'm an attorney. All of my friends see me as a person they look up to."
mircea_popescu: MR. WALLERSTEIN, for his part, is not complaining. Once you throw in the intangibles of having a J.D., he says, he is one of law schools' satisfied customers.
mircea_popescu: he "likes to hang out" ? bring me the largest pike.
pete_dushenski: so the skools let raving idjits in and suckered them for everything the banks were dumb enough to loan them
mircea_popescu: who the fuck does this schmuck think he is ?
mircea_popescu: sure, my hos regularly get two bedroom, two bathroom apts, provided a) they're good at what they do and b) live in pairs or triples.
mircea_popescu: He lives with his fiancee who is "unperturbed by his dizzying collection of i.o.u.'s." She doesn't want him to get a corporate law job because (take a sip first): "we like hanging out together." Carly, another unemployed law graduate explains, "I guess I kind of assumed that someone would hook me up with something." I'm sure she felt she deserved it."
mircea_popescu: all on borrowed money. There were cost-of-living loans, and tuition of about $33,000 a year. Later came a $15,000 loan to cover months of studying for the bar.
mircea_popescu: "WHEN Mr. Wallerstein started at Thomas Jefferson, he was in no mood for austerity. He borrowed so much that before the start of his first semester he nearly put a down payment on a $350,000 two-bedroom, two-bath condo, figuring that the investment would earn a profit by the time he graduated. ...Mr. Wallerstein rented a spacious apartment. He also spent a month studying in the South of France and a month in Prague --
mircea_popescu: allow me to refer to the source material in my response.
pete_dushenski: if you can take these 3 points away from law school, and some connections, you'll be better for it.
pete_dushenski: imo the mental framework that a (canadian/uk) legal degree provides is that i) there are always loopholes to exploit, ii) you can debate anything, iii) don't ask a question unless you know the answer.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell. when i was that age i knew exactly where i could go. EVERYWHERE. and so did they.
mircea_popescu: et hired?" They think to themselves, "amn't I bright? Hard working? Fluent in legal theory?" And the employers respond, "how the hell would we know that?""
mircea_popescu: "And once they're in law school, there is more grade inflation and even retroactive adding of .333 to everybody's GPA. And now law school graduates are surprised to find they're unemployed. Law students had no real measure of their status as an applicant; no reliable descriptor of what kind of a school they went to (short of branding); and no reliable measure of their performance there. "What do you mean I can't g
mircea_popescu: that hole. relationships, business arrangements, political arrangements, scientific models, all of it the same exact hole left behind. "this is where nothing used to be".
mircea_popescu: g. "I think I belong in a top tier school..." How do you know? The analogy is you have no idea what kind of a man you are and thus what kind of a woman would be right for you, so you just harass the girls that other people think are the best. Then if you don't get her you're angry at the girl ("these bitches just want jocks and legacy applicants"); and if you get her you're surprised to find that three years with
mircea_popescu: "See? Grade inflation. We already know about the problem of grade inflation in colleges; the LSAT was supposed to help offset this by offering a standardization. Now the ABA wants to do away with the LSAT requirement. Fine. But the result of all this is you can't really be sure how you compare to other applicants, so instead you demand objectivity in the schools' rankings as a proxy to guess where you might belon
mircea_popescu: leaves the same hole anything made by ustards leaves.
pete_dushenski: the difference between web analytics and law degree is that the latter at leaves you with a useful mental framework once it's burned your bucks
mircea_popescu: specifically. "precision that you can't act upon". could be the "web analytics" business as well.
mircea_popescu: "A ranking, like the "percent employed", is an example of information bias. You think you know something, but you don't. If Fordham is #21, is that different than saying it is #29? Or saying it is in the second decile? It's a deliberately obfuscated precision that you can't act on. That level of "certainty" does not inform your decisions."
trinque: pete_dushenski: as for the dust it churns through, I'm sure at some point I'll have it announce when the tank is low so that the gentlemen here can refill it
mircea_popescu: donations" factor by calling alumni and asking them to donate $5, and whoever doesn't donate label as deceased."
mircea_popescu: A quick word on the US News rankings. 25% of the ranking comes from a "peer quality assessment" in which schools rate each other. So, say you are Clemson Law School. What should you do? "Rate all other programs below average." And, of course, do what University of Wisconsin did: give the highest score only to itself and one other school that you're not really competing against. You can also bring up that "alumni
mircea_popescu: "They fake it because that pointless data gets handed over to the illusionists at US News along with other pointless data (expenditure per student, library facilities, max bench press) to generate a single overall ranking, which is just the kind of simplistic, pseudoscience objectivity that students, parents, and schools demand.
mircea_popescu: The schools do this because the schools are extremely profitable businesses: high cost, low margin.
pete_dushenski: trinque not to mention the gold-plated tank to pick up said groceries and drop them off at your house
mircea_popescu: How do they do this? "Enron-type accounting standards..."says a law professor. "Every time I look at this data, I feel dirty."
mircea_popescu: Which brings us to the first point, the main point: law schools are lying. Despite the fact that "JDs face the grimmest job market in decades" the schools are somehow reporting to prosepctive applicants that, e.g., "93% of grads are working" and "the median starting salary of graduates in the private sector is $160,000."
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Are Law Schools Lying To Their Applicants? ... ( http://bit.ly/1k7Zcag )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/01/are_law_schools_lying_to_their.html << this is pretty good.
trinque: as for investing in deedbot I don't see the angle
thestringpuller: have no idea what this provides other than more visibility for auditing, but dunno...seems...moot...empty
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: from what this article tells me, they basically built a thing for docusign to hash physical contracts to the blockchain
thestringpuller: http://www.coindesk.com/visa-docusign-car-lease-proof-of-concept-bitcoin/ << what's with these finance companies wanting to spam the blockchain?
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 18:23:13; mircea_popescu: "I know they're billing it as a stand for women's rights, but that would be more convincing if they weren't also selling weapons to Saudi Arabia, hadn't shuttered 75 percent of the country's Status of Women offices, and weren't shrugging off the more than 1,200 Indigenous women who have been missing or murdered in Canada since 1980."
pete_dushenski: right after ex-pm harper gutted all those women's studies programs. sheesh. back and forth, these guys.
pete_dushenski: 'Status of Women. Consolidated expense is budgeted at $1 .4 million in 2015-16 . A province-wide dialogue around the formation of this new ministry is underway .' << mkay
pete_dushenski: eh nothing exciting : $4 bn for 'human services' and $11 bn for 'other ministries' (agri, natives, tourism, energy). also ~$1 bn for debt servicing and ~$1 bn for 'disasters'
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> 11% on university... because everyone deserves to be reprimanded for microaggression because what they need to do is macro-aggression
mircea_popescu: what's the rest go for, defense ?!
asciilifeform: i can't have been the only one who wondered 'how many other bug fixes is this fella sitting on without knowing about it'
asciilifeform: i confess that not learning about mircea_popescucoin's db locks fix until ~after~ therealbitcoinw wedged to death was not fun.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it is no longer in use on the battlefield, consider sharing it. might be of some use re: therealbitcoin.
asciilifeform: what you had on the original node we synced from.
asciilifeform: the thing that had no name
mircea_popescu: you mean the altcoin thing ?
asciilifeform: (does mircea_popescu know the ancient expression? 'this is not a bug - it is a feature')
asciilifeform: we haven't even met the folks behind mircea_popescucoin.
asciilifeform: but i just checked the mailbox, there is no letter from sultan inviting me to move away.
mircea_popescu: the stable solution here is that the socialists get the crowd and wash their head with it, all i want is the well put together teenage sluts and the fewq and far between whose heads work.
mircea_popescu: i am not intending to "save" the mass from it's "opressive" government/landlords/what have you anymore than i intend to run around farms in rural england "freeing" the cows.
mircea_popescu: to quote myself, "Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound busine
asciilifeform: but i can't help but agree with the general principle. 'public' is largely vermin. and if mircea_popescu decides to open a meatspace lubyanka and make an old-fashioned entirely nonpublic intelligence-gathering corps, he ought to wake us all up.
mircea_popescu: you're turning into a modern version of the immaculate conceiver over there, you know ?
asciilifeform: y'know, the one that has 'public'.
mircea_popescu: but for the grace of alfie....
asciilifeform: i'd agree wholeheartedly with mircea_popescu on all of this, but presently i'm on the wrong side of a door.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you've well seen what the results of public access to phuctor were.
mircea_popescu: it both perpetuates the jwz "i only want to" class and it creates the "i know nothing and have some oppinions" class of stolfi/swanson/etc.
asciilifeform: that was, as i understood at least, the intent of cryptome et al.
mircea_popescu: it is the essence of evil.
mircea_popescu: fuck the public, it belongs to huffpo.
asciilifeform: incidentally, there is not, afaik, presently, a thing similar to cryptome
mircea_popescu: good for em for figuring it out. in truth, they do.
BingoBoingo: It's the post modern way to steal
trinque: she wanted to do that in high school because the world somebody set up had "doctor" in a cool place
asciilifeform: 'A friend of mine who is a quite successful doctor complains constantly about her job. When people applying to medical school ask her for advice, she wants to shake them and yell "Don't do it!" (But she never does.) How did she get into this fix? In high school she already wanted to be a doctor. And she is so ambitious and determined that she overcame every obstacle along the way-- including, unfortunately, not liking it.'
asciilifeform: from the old pre-braindamage graham...:
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, a compass is just a compass.
mircea_popescu: no, there isn't.
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as having an internal compass, if you will
mircea_popescu: you say : thus therefore, the fact that there aren't 100 people to follow, so each of these 100 could follow one of those 100 (ie, the same one) is then the problem.
mircea_popescu: he says : this hundred appears nutty, but this seems more because they have no one to follow than a flaw in themselves.
mircea_popescu: at least the broomstick fits.
mircea_popescu: if you can't make even one person worth following, how the hell would you make this entire aspirational 14% be each and every one worthy of following (for themselves) ?
asciilifeform: it therefore ~is~ a problem.
trinque: their obedience doesn't seem to be the problem; more that there's nothing good out there to obey
asciilifeform: machines purpose-built for playing the college roulette
asciilifeform: not much to tell. more or less the caricature depicted by the source tlp quoted, made flesh
asciilifeform: they are insufferable.
asciilifeform: btw i went to school with these people.
trinque: "she is really raising them to be what the WSJ considers China to be: a pool of highly skilled labor that someone else will profit from."
trinque: I could hear the same shit from some stoner I know
trinque: don't let them stomp out your unique flower or whatever it is
trinque: if you'd just see, you too could solo on the stratocaster and be free
mircea_popescu: and i gotta say i love the leverage, i take an hour to write one of these 5k word atrocities, it ruins the day/week of numerous people.
trinque: even him mentioning the guitar fits
trinque: having reached the end of the latest ballas dissection, the thing has a familiar format I was a little surprised to see given the others from him I've read.
asciilifeform: and ~would~ if there weren't an ocean of vermin
mircea_popescu: i dun believe this is what they wanted musl to be for.
asciilifeform: y'know, the kind where it is possible to install programs later.
asciilifeform: and the gravestone on top of it all:
asciilifeform: and at the same time these VERMIN mutter about 'you shouldn't write in nonstandard c, because of my gcc patches..'
asciilifeform is astonishingly astonished at the number of packages which fall into dust under musl
mircea_popescu: well i only read the atlantic so it never happened.
mircea_popescu: not in the atlantic, i'd wager.
mircea_popescu: pray tell what'd the gestapo have done ? better ? doubtful.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the story of england's country estates is so much lolz. so hitler won the war, and as a result by 1955 they were destroying the "national heritage" at the rate of a site a week.
asciilifeform: 'fseeko.c:103:4: error: #error "Please port gnulib fseeko.c to your platform! Look at the code in fpurge.c, then report this to bug-gnulib." #error "Please port gnulib fseeko.c to your platform! Look at the code in fpurge.c, then report this to bug-gnulib."'
asciilifeform: from other front,
asciilifeform: incidentally, the number of working nodes OF WHATEVER KIND continues to fall. not only per the 'bitnodes' observatory thing, but per my own nodes' connections stats
asciilifeform: ' Why would Bitcoin XT be subject to censorship? Simply put, this fork proposal calls for something that does not suit the agendas of the people in charge of /r/Bitcoin.' << still this?!!!
asciilifeform: if they gave half a fuck re: 'relevancy' they would have to eat their pistols in grad school even.
mircea_popescu: they have that much in common with down syndrome sufferers, it is true.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are not businessmen, recall, they are academitards. so long as the paycheques come and the tenure nest continues to be feathered with new paperz, they are as happy as a dung beetle in his pile of shit
mircea_popescu: im sure in their own heads they're still actually even like, involved in things and whatnot.
asciilifeform: they are laughing all the way to the bank, within half an hour's walk from where i stand
mircea_popescu: to quote professor costanza, "in my mind, the war is still going".
jurov: asciilifeform: no, they rebuilt it with llvm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the university gang is still in business
asciilifeform: or is this the same animal
mircea_popescu: not even a month. heh. at least the actual scammers have the decency to go away for 9ish months at a time. seems even 9 weeks is too much for the comparatively shittier decency of the university scammer set.
jurov: asciilifeform: in CERN they built an *interpreter* on top of it, named cling
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 12:12:45; assbot: davout-bc comments on /u/jstolfi goes the way of whollyhemp after death threats from scientologists ... ( http://bit.ly/1JkvIuB )
mircea_popescu: nobody gave a shit about stolfi at any point, his "omaigerd threatened on the internets" attention whoring moment y compris, therefore mp is bad!
assbot: jstolfi comments on Roger the Jesus launches uncensored CEO AMA marathon on Bitcoin.com ...everyone except OKCoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1RzUdu0 )
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3qdwet/roger_the_jesus_launches_uncensored_ceo_ama/cwejyip
asciilifeform: prolly wouldn't bother to mention this if it weren't for the 'where do we get ws hardware' thread.
asciilifeform has now ascertained beyond any doubt that his box dies when under full load. prolly thermal.
mircea_popescu: "oh, they sit on grenades because of windy, not because of cold". fuck them all the same!
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:46:20; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308896 << word. and the postmodern irony is that after all this elaborate, expensive, actual superiority, hillary uses a home mail server.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308970 << iirc it was to skirt 'mandatory data retention' rule, rather than 'seek00rity'
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:44:48; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308891 << and it is, currently, the one reason china is a pisspot.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308966 << this is the chink in the armour of 'usa is irrelevant and can go straight to hell'. let's say, yes, but where do you intend to get ws cpu.
mircea_popescu: lord knows it went to soup (true, different flavour) once they started wit hthe "understanding"s.
asciilifeform: the ~remaining~ ones - possibly - understood.
mircea_popescu: the reason for the succes is specifically the hindbrain. and the uninvolvement of "the life of the mind".
mircea_popescu: they drew thje banner, said fuckit, it devolved into soup and we never heard of those.
mircea_popescu: no. they understood nothing.
asciilifeform: they understood that if they were to simply draw the banner and say fuckit, it would devolve into soup
mircea_popescu: what does it mean ? it is fucking obvious to you what it means, on the basis of the text itself!
mircea_popescu: it is right all through in the speciffically correct way.
mircea_popescu: how much does the field of computing owe to... heraldry ?
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : "Quarterly, first and fourth grandquarters counterquartered, first and fourth gules, three cinquefoils ermine ; second and third argent, a lymphad with sails furled proper, flagged gules ; second and third grandquarters argent, a heart gules imperially crowned proper, on a chief azure three stars of the field."
mircea_popescu: the culture powering romania. i would bet this played a part in half or more lost virginities during decades.
mircea_popescu: ie, "i've seen you, you're to my liking, what's left to do ? i dare speak to you : i love you! if you've looked me in the eye and were struck, you're not wrong to tell me you love me."
mircea_popescu: drove the (relatively moe sheltered romanians) batshit.
asciilifeform: yes, that was the one.
mircea_popescu: anyway asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/the-worm/ if it's what you meant deals more with fears around identity. this'd be three levels lower down the tree, more akin to societal parody.
mircea_popescu: which is the point.
mircea_popescu: "maybe it's cheaper with psychiatry ? let's convince them the incredible burning is worth it ?" "waste of time, these subhuman hindbrained breeders!11" etc
mircea_popescu: and the debate could specifically be, that the damned bitches keep trying to claw the worm out of their bellies, thus giving themselves infections. so the upgraded farfms have to include limb restraints on top of the noirmally used neckchain to a pole thing. which costs moneys!
mircea_popescu: the text follows the conflict between the progressives (hey, whatever it costs, worth doing) and the conservatives (keep your damned ringworms off our famr!)
mircea_popescu: but i got an idea of a graphic novel, suddeenly : in this crapsack world in which the implementation of the "jews eating babies"/"white slavers" moral panic / fetish is actual farms to literally produce baby viande as per the modest proposal, it is discovered that ringworm infection of the abdomen in 2nd trimester females results in tastier, if very strangely diformed veal.
mircea_popescu: and in other parenting news / alf baiting porn, http://40.media.tumblr.com/bc4b4cc1ba00b42ec6bac861aec8fb20/tumblr_nq6d29n3ZE1u57u1ko1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: i dunno why, it's rather obvious.
phf: ben_vulpes: i've seen fmt like tricks used all over the place to do for example date formatting, e.g. (year #\- month #\- day), but the previous sexp is compiled to either format or directly to princ's. unless your domain is text formatting, it makes little sense to have an intermediate form.
asciilifeform: (and presumably every other industrial country)
asciilifeform: document describes saxitoxin, a favourite of the american services
asciilifeform: 2nd page looks like dot-matrix. looks quite like some of the 20 y.o. printouts i have lying around.
mircea_popescu: shape's wrong, mechanical failures are wrong, the whole thing looks digital.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the machine type looks fake to me.
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't think fmt is a horrible idea, but it (and similar packages like iterate) would've been great if they were part of the standard. as it stands they get you some elegance at the expense of being an idiosyncratic external dependency. you still have to learn format and loop, but once you do, you start thinking twice about replacing them with something marginally better.
mircea_popescu: in somewhat other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/b7c3568fec22fbd281a044e6e0857bd5/tumblr_nez8fyNDo01sqzw79o1_400.gif
asciilifeform: the 2nd page in particular
mircea_popescu points at the "driving car" discussion.
asciilifeform: there was a saying, 'beat a hare enough and it will learn to light matches'
mircea_popescu: somehow the women their mother's generation did not have this problem. it ... sprung out of the void, around 1970 or so.
mircea_popescu: until i beat the shit of her every time she didn't do math properly ?
mircea_popescu: you knew who else grew (for whatever reason) with a complete atrophy of the part of the brain that does "that math-y stuff"
trinque: probably every other time I go spelunking for information on lisp machines
trinque: asciilifeform: I run into places you've interfaced with strangers all over the net.
asciilifeform: whatever organ is responsible, it is entirely possible to grow up with (for whatever reason) atrophy of the 'interfacing with strangers' circuits.
asciilifeform also finds it dubious. such legends get blown up by biographers until the result is nothing approaching plausible
mircea_popescu: that you readily see the "cpu in cpu" thing for what it is, yet you';d allow THE SAME PEOPLE do THE SAME THING to your own brain.
mircea_popescu: it earned it, on its own merits, as part of the whole construction's history. it's there and you honor it.
asciilifeform: any more than witch doctors in congo (or american programmerz) invalidate the fields on which they shit
asciilifeform: thing is, the existence of rampaging pseudointellectuals does not invalidate actual life-of-the-mind as a thing.
asciilifeform recalls very interesting accounts of the angle that was taken when grilling such folks
mircea_popescu: lyf of the minds!
asciilifeform: it was never a 'main prison' in the sense of holding appreciable numbers of prisoners at one time
asciilifeform: kakobrekla ^ is there such a thing?
mircea_popescu: "i have decided that only the upper third of the mandelbrot set is of interest. WHY DOES THE REST KEEP RECURRING WE HAD AN AGREEMENT!!1"
mircea_popescu: tel lyou what : the weird make it, the brave take it from them, and the smart take it from the brave. true in the "empire building" us west as well as in lublianka.
asciilifeform: i've nothing against the hindbrain per se. but it is not the mind. why not call arse and elbow same word also, if we do this ?
asciilifeform: of the hindbrain.
asciilifeform: my picture of 'alley' is very much 'the spartan speaks with his sword.'
mircea_popescu: but anyway, you musta been readoing a different www, half of mine's with and about whores, criminals and the insane.
asciilifeform: his www. (but perhaps there is another, made of chalk and written on alley walls, which is about hoodlumming ?)
asciilifeform: why does mircea_popescu not hang out with hoodlums instead of in theatres?
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:05:03; mircea_popescu: i happen to not think anything of the mathematician that doesn't know how his fridge works. "oh he's specialised" fuck you. "but this is how we do it here!" yeah, this is how i do you in the ass.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308996 << not the same. 'know how fridge works' is still in the keeping of a life of the mind. whereas 'be impervious to ambush in dark alley' is (barring very few exceptions, philosopher-soldierieng-mircea_popescus of various strips) ~not~.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:04:31; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308923 << the problem with this approach is that you also don't agree with the theory that the deer is less than the fox. fine, don't agree : the fox eats the deer nevertheless. your options are either a) to not share an environment, in which case your failures are not fit-reducing or b) to grow uniformly.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308968 << whatchawaiting for, let's have the article
asciilifeform: (criminology has zero to do with scientific evidence and everything to do with adjudicated guilt and confession. just the same today as it did when folks were tried by ordeal a thousand years ago.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308965 << see the fingerprint threads in the logs as to why.
asciilifeform: 'secure'-only-against-sp4mz0rz is just another way to say 'anal rape by usg but with anaesthesia so you aren't acutely writhing in pain from it'
asciilifeform: it is in fact the very definition of sabotage.
asciilifeform: guess what, i don't give a ~flying fuck~ about 'it's more seek000re except against the folks with the master keys'
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:35:25; mats: it is p easy to wax poetic about the state of computing, but, folks run nix until they don't and nonetheless need to raise the cost for attackers
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308948 << disingenuous to bring it back to 'but we gotta raise the cost for attackerz' while carefully omitting to mention that in ALL OF THESE 'mitigation' derpitudes 'attacker' invariably, INESCAPABLY really means 'attackers other than usg'
trinque: the eternal september was already out there; the whole thing was the ignorant masses raiding the internet from "out there"
thestringpuller: i was more referring to how people say memes in real life, i.e: "not bad dot jpeg"; the reddit eternal september is like an infection
mircea_popescu: no, they don't.
mircea_popescu: "Wealth management is a profession on the defensive."