pete_dushenski: davout: reminds me of the 'market researchers' in http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/10/what-the-market-is-and-what-it-isnt/
punkman: davout: do the bots rapidly cancel orders?
davout: "In my humble opinion: these bots create a false market. They represent institutional greed offering no substantial increase in value per point nor do they offer any noticeable increase in liquidity. I also believe that they will chase your average human customers away, who like us, were trying to get the best price we could while at least trying to offer a better market"
pete_dushenski: 'they took ur jobs !'
pete_dushenski: rage against the machine (tm) (r)
davout: "ohai, i'm trying to do X, and i get frustrated because someone automated X and is therefore doing it better than me, pls to change the rules accordingly"
davout: so today, i had a customer complain by e-mail that he had trouble getting in front of everyone in the order book, and that it was a bad experience
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 15:17:46; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310797 <<< its gay if panels are touching. i think you could hardly consider parts actually isolated from each other if they're in physical proximity
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310811 << if your shit is all plugged into the same mains breaker without isolation transformers you're equally incestuous...
ascii_field: (supposing that you're not a mexican peasant who can harness them to the plough when they're six y.o.)
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 14:27:14; vulpes_a_hopital: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310756 << perhaps i lose sight of what it is to "be rich", but all one must do is...not send the kids off to socialist day camp.
assbot: Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user jgarzik: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=thestringpuller&to=jgarzik | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jgarzik/
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 14:20:46; asciilifeform: but if they do not, then the ~constellation~ of machines on which they happen, or at the very least, their control panels, are to then be called 'the workstation'.
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310797 <<< its gay if panels are touching. i think you could hardly consider parts actually isolated from each other if they're in physical proximity
phf: vulpes_a_hopital: edi weitz's code only recently got its own github repos when others took over the maintenance (mostly to ensure that it can be packaged into quicklisp). but a canonical place for cl-ppcre (and a handful of other lisp packages for doing "modern" programming) is http://weitz.de/lisp.html
davout: vulpes_a_hopital: lol nice, the cheatsheet is like 4 pages long !1
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 13:47:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310642 << phun phakt - if you have children in usaschwitz, and aren't rich - this is SOP and there is FUCK you can do about it
vulpes_a_hopital: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310756 << perhaps i lose sight of what it is to "be rich", but all one must do is...not send the kids off to socialist day camp.
vulpes_a_hopital: wankery aside, it's a nifty interface to the engine
davout: "store and play the correct bach fugue depending on what emacs modeline is set" <<< i thought emacs could *generate* bach fugues
asciilifeform: but if they do not, then the ~constellation~ of machines on which they happen, or at the very least, their control panels, are to then be called 'the workstation'.
asciilifeform: e.g., to walk the blockchain, verify a raid array 24/7 in a loop, handle six parallel compiles; store and play the correct bach fugue depending on what emacs modeline is set; etc.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 09:46:02; davout: i don't really see why there should be only one kind of computer
asciilifeform: nothing in there about 'context'.
asciilifeform: (which is, roughly, that the 'leaks' thus far are 1% good stuff - e.g., the ANT catalogue, the ECI directorates list, and that's pretty much IT - while the remainder is 9 parts cheapo operational garbage to 1 part deliberate disinfo)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 09:59:49; mircea_popescu: wherein tlp sides with alf in the alf-mp debate over assange/wikileaks etc, but wherein tlp also SHOWS (do, don't tell!) the fundamental weakness of that position. "oh truth without context isn't truth [and let's not mention how this is only because our science isn't actually science - if it were this problem wouldn't exist, but since it isn't then NECESSARILY wikileaks can only be true]".
asciilifeform: just populate them with whatever needs to be running, ever. preferably at boot.
asciilifeform: e.g., if you can have 48 'cores' there is NO REASON TO HAVE A SCHEDULER
asciilifeform: if for no other reason.
asciilifeform: because the box COULD CRASH
asciilifeform: i still recall the days when a developer would spend an hour a day WAITING FOR REBOOTS
asciilifeform: and the requisite hardware to drive it.
asciilifeform: the other half of what it means is NUKING as much as possible of the share of your life spent waiting for your hands to move viewports around, and the like.
asciilifeform: ~this~ is part of what 'workstation' means. minimizing the hours of your life BURNED waiting for a cpu.
asciilifeform: how much of his life does mircea_popescu spend waiting for compiles? for numbers to crunch? and i specifically mean WAITING FOR A MACHINE not for a human operator to get his shit together
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310723 << your thinkpad is faster than half of the machines in the room from which i'm posting. but 'workstation' has specific meaning.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 09:30:47; davout: mircea_popescu: yeah well, basically, the intuitive understanding i reached, is that unless your computer is behaving like a dumb calculator, something is wrong
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310704 << the n00b put in front of von neumann machine is told that the deterministic circuits will behave... well, deterministically. then five minutes later he learns about threads and the scheduler, and then never believes anyone again..
asciilifeform: there is the basic truth, and there is, on top of it, a massive 'field' of exercises in self-delusion (e.g., 'whitening.')
assbot: Logged on 25-11-2013 03:41:29; asciilifeform: the essential, non-negotiable property of an rng suitable for crypto is that its output must not be readily available to the enemy.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 09:30:04; mircea_popescu: A LOT more research is needed before the cult will be happy with the cult's own understanding of what RNG even fucking means (ie, stands for) in a computing environment.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310702 << i don't regard the subject as a box of mysteries.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 09:27:34; mircea_popescu: what are you trying to fix, the atrocious gpg malleability issues ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310695 << basic idea: go and try to actually TEST, e.g., gpg key generator. as in, deterministically. this is nontrivial - gotta saw off the entropy collector and replace with something.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 07:47:18; mircea_popescu: "0. The diagnosis will make the parents want to try and help the child. This is axiomatic. No parent with access to services will be told their kid has a diagnosis of "PDD" or Asperger's and say, "not interested, let's wait a few years and see how this goes." Once a diagnosis is made, the psychiatric juggernaut is activated. " << no MOTHER.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310642 << phun phakt - if you have children in usaschwitz, and aren't rich - this is SOP and there is FUCK you can do about it
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 04:14:23; BingoBoingo: "The first reason was that woman's abdominal body fat decreased their own sexual desire on a hormonal level, which would hamper libido. The second reason could be that men simply found slimmer women more attractive and thus had fewer problems in the bedroom."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310341 << dan mocsny got there first. (along with prolly every single fella who took the pill, knowing the secret of the why.)
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 03:35:30; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason this putative is seemingly without answer is because it is castrated. what tlp would do if he realised what's wrong with his head depends on WHY HE REALISED. what would the pubescent girl do if she matured ? nothing the pubescent girl can do BECAUSE maturation is DRIVEN by the VERY DEED! once she finds a boy she loves she will both be a woman and know what to do ; once tlp AC
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310319 << how's this work? tlp is not a cocooned insect / teenage gurl, waiting to transform into some other type of creature, but - at least if his writing is any clue - a grown man with many-figured bills to pay.
asciilifeform: yes, man doing the job of a machine because he is cheaper than the requisite machine - like the barge-men of the volga, pulling the rope with their own muscle, were cheaper than mules - needs to be 'conscientious'
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 06:35:59; mircea_popescu: "conscientiousness", really ? might as well score 19yo hussies by their understanding of the theses of the 18th congress.
mircea_popescu: wherein tlp sides with alf in the alf-mp debate over assange/wikileaks etc, but wherein tlp also SHOWS (do, don't tell!) the fundamental weakness of that position. "oh truth without context isn't truth [and let's not mention how this is only because our science isn't actually science - if it were this problem wouldn't exist, but since it isn't then NECESSARILY wikileaks can only be true]".
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: 3 Important Things About The New Wikileaks Controversy ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDHYew )
mircea_popescu: "That's the difference between Wikileaks and the regular press. For the reporter, climate change is not a scientific question, or else it wouldn't matter what cables get released. It's a political one, in which competing narratives are bolstered by circumstantial evidence and appeals to authority and control of the debate." << epic. from http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/05/3_important_things_about_the_n.html
mircea_popescu: the reason there existed ten thousand types of typewriter and exactly one ibm xt is that typewriters suck.
mircea_popescu: globalization's a thing. market competition is a thing. there will be always a dominant type of anything.
mircea_popescu: table: yes, you're hot, but you don't look like Rachel, you look like the other hot chick right next to you. And, bafflingly, you did it on purpose."
mircea_popescu: "most hot chicks, in order to be hot, copy something a celebrity wears; remember the Rachel-do? No problem, they look hot in it; but their delusion is that they are referencing Jennifer Aniston and not the millions of other women with the exact same haircut, i.e. that they draw their identity only from the celebrity's identity-- "This look really says me!" Yet sit along the wall of the bar and the conclusion is inevi
davout: i don't really see why there should be only one kind of computer
mircea_popescu: anyway, all this aside : digging out the whole rng story is a huge hot core of useful, important inquiry.
mircea_popescu: (also, the RNG content of a computer is not strictly found in a box labeled such).
mircea_popescu: davout yeah the rng.
mircea_popescu: but the more interesting question is twinfold : a) why would you not think of a calculator as the omega of computing and b) what would be the omega of computing then ?
mircea_popescu: well, acceptable or not im pretty much persuaded it's something that must be in there.
davout: i'm not saying that being a calculator should be the alpha and omega of computing, just that for crypto purposes it's probably better to not think of a RNG as something acceptable
davout: the box thing
mircea_popescu: and i'm not judging anyone for wanting to fuck their box. i understand the impulse, and hey, it beats trying to fuck your station wagon. or mains socket.
mircea_popescu: you want to fuck your computer, that's all there is to it.
mircea_popescu: calling a computer "a box" is perhaps the most telling of all freudian seepage ever.
mircea_popescu: so we're stuck figuring out the rng issues.
mircea_popescu: yeah. you know what's wrong ? that you want to fuck it, is what's wrong. sadly, there's not going to be any solution to people wnating to fuck their computers.
davout: in the sense that, if you depend on it for 'generating' random numbers, as opposed to simply behaving like a strictly deterministic machine, you're fuxxored
davout: mircea_popescu: yeah well, basically, the intuitive understanding i reached, is that unless your computer is behaving like a dumb calculator, something is wrong
mircea_popescu: A LOT more research is needed before the cult will be happy with the cult's own understanding of what RNG even fucking means (ie, stands for) in a computing environment.
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2014 23:27:03; punkman: from linked paper: "The analysis is very disturbing: it appears that the bitcoin core client has NOT yet finalized the process of several security upgrades which propose a solution to this problem (deterministic random generation) event though a first solution was already submitted in January 2013"
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 20:57:58; mircea_popescu: any program which allows for the attacker to read in any sense the rng is not necessarily owning the box, but necessarily not part of the not-owning-the-box set either
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to fix, the atrocious gpg malleability issues ?
davout: anyway, i had a look around yesterday about deterministic signatures, and didn't find anything regarding the official cult position
mircea_popescu: yeah there is hope for you.
davout: i did get demoted by theymos from my mod position for basically calling him a derp. i think that counts!11
mircea_popescu: there is hope for you!
mircea_popescu: until butthurt somethingawfulers add your name to the list of the various idiots you either personally sunk or otherwise frontrun the sinking of, you've not really made it!
mircea_popescu: while there's nothing wrong with a 20yo playing with a dollhouse in her hoisiery, there IS something very very wrong with a 20yo that actually thinks of dolls as if they were people. or that "animals have rights too!", which is exactly a proxy for that.
mircea_popescu: stop playing with the toys ? likely, but not necessarily. stop thinking the toys were actual things ? definitely, foundationally.
mircea_popescu: they CAN. and they should. the reason they don't has a lot to do with that peerless question of "what would tlp do if he individuated".
mircea_popescu: "Ponder that flippant run-on sentence for its hidden truth. Who judges whom? What are the criteria for becoming a judge? It's not popularity; nor the sophistication of the staff and writers; or the insight of a director. In the hierarchy of authenticity and truth, which one is at the top? Why can Variety call someone "internet obsessed" but no one can call Variety a "comic book" which, as I am about to show, it is
mircea_popescu: "There is something presumptuous, not to mention deluded, about a print magazine that no one reads claiming that a movie no one will see is a peerless window into something anyone can access anytime they want."
mircea_popescu: this one single thing is about 130% of what -the best of the best!- pr does, so let's put pete_d on notice about it.
mircea_popescu: (which is code for, you publicly humiliate them. that's the worst that can happen to a wanna-be journo. and in 2015 there exists nothing other than wanna-be in that biz.)
mircea_popescu: and if they won't not let you, if they won't be EAGERLY complicit in your control of "their" codes, you punish them.
mircea_popescu: rsons. they might write IN the washington post, but for as long as they write ABOUT you they write FOR you. so they can write whatever they want, but they do NOT get to write "upscale neighbourhood", or, as tlp's apt example goes "If they profiled me it woudl start, "Wearing a disheveled undershirt clutching a rock..." and leave it to you to make an objective assessment (="drunkard, likely unbalanced.")".
mircea_popescu: this is, incidentally, a fundamental point to be considered for those inclined to interact with the scum (aka, non-qntra reporters), a point which that seduction expert (i don't recall which one but was in the logs - something about how he went on a "live" show where the 5 dollar audience bood him on cue) : you do want to control their codes. because you must project your own ownership of reality, and of their sorry pe
mircea_popescu: in the restaurant is so that random fishwrap can say "upscale neighbourhood" like it means something.
mircea_popescu: " They don't give his age, they give a physical description. Media-- and The New Yorker is probably the wost offender of this-- offers a physical description of their subject as a code about their character in exactly the way the media would never allow a regular person to do." <<< right, because it's not about anythihng but trying to misrepresent themselves as powerful. the only reason random derp can't say "nigger"
mircea_popescu: so very damaging, the themes of female submission. to otherwise unemployable, wasted-life-is-only-a-matter-of-time 13yo girls trapped in 25something female bodies.
mircea_popescu: "hool teacher to determine the curriculum's rigor. But the samples also tell something about the readers. "I had one essay that said how awful Twilight was"--the essay was about damaging themes of female submissiveness in the series--"and I was like, 'Admit her!' " says Melissa Faulner, a 2006 grad on the committee."
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many kids actually earnestly trying to play that lottery know this is going to be the case and write to that audience (barristas)
mircea_popescu: And some are, I guess, there's got to be an Admissions Dean in the building somewhere. But the average applicant is writing an essay that he thinks an adult with a suit and three kids would want to read. Instead, it's probably being read by someone who can't wait for the new iphone and still bites their nails. Ten grand says they think Jon Stewart is "a freakin' political genius.""
mircea_popescu: In every college admissions website, they are referred to as "Admissions Officers." While I didn't assume they were in the military, I suppose I did assume they were... old. er.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: How To Write A College Application Essay Or Personal Statement ... ( http://bit.ly/20c5mY0 )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/05/how_to_write_a_college_applica.html << wow. now this is a valuable tidbit : "Still don't see it? There's a very good chance that the only person who will ever read your college essay is 25 years old.
mircea_popescu: that's why the fuck there are two parents : so they're not both mothers, and so that one of them says exactly that, and on occasion actually prevails.
mircea_popescu: "0. The diagnosis will make the parents want to try and help the child. This is axiomatic. No parent with access to services will be told their kid has a diagnosis of "PDD" or Asperger's and say, "not interested, let's wait a few years and see how this goes." Once a diagnosis is made, the psychiatric juggernaut is activated. " << no MOTHER.
mircea_popescu: but EXACTLY. minus, of course, the violence, the act of will. a negotiated, agreed upon, "by the power" deal.
assbot: The idea for a great film... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHcErm )
mircea_popescu: so the plan, if we lend credence to tlp's interpretation, and if we believe the data to be illustrative, is EXACTLY http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/#selection-81.0-81.481
mircea_popescu: Where have you ever heard the words, "by the power vested in me?" That's right, it's a domestic partnership, a marriage of sorts, and rather than try and un-pc figure out which one's the girl and which one's the boy simply observe that person B finds actualization by completely subsuming his own identity into the business of person A, who in turn gets the leisure time to pursue other interests (like drumming.) That,
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Hop, With Russell Brand: A Life Lesson For 4 Year Olds ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHcBeY )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/04/hop_with_russell_brand.html << rather interesting.
pete_dushenski: vulpes_a_hopital that'd be the one.
pete_dushenski: "The project sends solar-powered balloons 16,000 feet (5,000 meters) into the air to deliver Internet access through radio frequency signals to antennae connected to buildings on the ground. The balloons use algorithms to find the best winds to carry them along their charted course."
pete_dushenski: maybe not what you'd want to annouce of 'dc dirigible on the loose' day
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz that actually is, "Google has teamed up with three Indonesian telecommunications companies to expand Internet access in that country using solar-powered balloons."
mircea_popescu: was in the logs.
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, "The police department in Anderson, north of Sacramento, announced this week that it plans to equip and train its force of 20 officers with the weapon, also called nunchuks, as a new means to detain uncooperative suspects while “limiting injuries”."
gribble: Error: That's all, there is no more.
fluffypony: like I get that it renders README.md, but leave the rest of my files alone
vulpes_a_hopital: install the package to read its documentation?
mircea_popescu: that should bother some ppls.
vulpes_a_hopital: further lulz
vulpes_a_hopital: they're rubros, stick it in an iframe
vulpes_a_hopital: BingoBoingo: with the obscurantism!
pete_dushenski: she really set the pr bar
BingoBoingo: <vulpes_a_hopital> and perhaps a link to "so you want to start a bitcoin business" there at the end << It is at the start
vulpes_a_hopital: this brings up such sweet memories of wandering along the remodeled docks talking to davout about how great of a business paymium was
pete_dushenski: hm. i lack the words in which to cloak my true intention of spreading porn to the four corners of the digital world
mircea_popescu: your odds of finging it amonmg all the words are negligible.
mircea_popescu: yes. while it's true that trilema hosts one of the largest porn galleries in the western world,
vulpes_a_hopital: "that the fucked up" << attn bingoboingo
mircea_popescu: i can see the logic of htis.
pete_dushenski: not that i mind the subject matter..
BingoBoingo: Anyways that procedure has at least two millenia of safety behind it. Some women do it to themselves
mircea_popescu: anyway. there is respectable research into this, they actually make sense, going in after 42 is the right move.
vulpes_a_hopital: i scoped the stats, made my call.
vulpes_a_hopital: moreover, *because* the doctors start insisting on going in at 42.5ish, there are very poor statistics on uninduced labor past 42 weeks or so.
pete_dushenski: vulpes_a_hopital i'm missing something, not the least of which was that i read 42 and thought "oh, that's term!" lol
vulpes_a_hopital: and there is /no way to predict/.
vulpes_a_hopital: an apparently healthy baby at 43 weeks may endure labor entirely differently than the 42 weeker, much less the 40 weeker.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: But if they bake it longer
mircea_popescu: vulpes_a_hopital those don't exist. if she goes over 42.5 or so the doctors usually go in.
mircea_popescu: anyway. let it be said real women deliver around the time strip clubs close. 6am, that sorta thing
pete_dushenski: and the figures
BingoBoingo: vulpes_a_hopital: Baby's prolly going to give pete's a run for the money on size, or already has mommy issues
vulpes_a_hopital: but /where are the statistics/
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> who the fuck takes the woman to the hospital before she floods the room i want to know! << Person who has to clean the room?
vulpes_a_hopital: so riddle me this: where are the statistics for > 43 week long pregnancies
mircea_popescu: (quote from actual father, many years ago "dude you will not FUCKING BELIEVE how much water is in there!")
mircea_popescu: who the fuck takes the woman to the hospital before she floods the room i want to know!
mircea_popescu: aren't you a l'hopital to pick up the young vulpes ?
vulpes_a_hopital: thestringpuller: howdja get to france if you couldn't make it to con3?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell thestringpuller http://qntra.net/2015/10/interview-with-david-francois-on-building-a-real-bitcoin-business/#comment-71537
phf: i naively went there to see how exactly they measured "programming aptitude" expecting some bogus methodology involving bug counts, the reality is just so incredibly bad, i'm now tracking original papers purely out of morbid fascination
mod6: vulpes_a_hopital: i've been told first babys take time. hang in there :]
mircea_popescu: is the assassin eating cake for breakfast at 11 am with a well oiled, well cleaned rifle in his lap - that he cleans and oils properly, every time, and has, irrespective of howp his profession makes it a dispoasable item - conscientious or not conscientious ?
mircea_popescu: "conscientiousness", really ? might as well score 19yo hussies by their understanding of the theses of the 18th congress.
mircea_popescu: this, as ben aptly pointed out the obvious to anyone who ever competently managed, or even sanely lived in proximity of programmers, is an outrageously clueless exercise in reductionism to the point of meaninglessness.
phf: other students. Being highly conscientious may not be necessarily for these students in order to obtain good academic results in this particular course."
phf: "There are some uncontrolled variables which may have affected the validity of the experimental results. One of these was students’ previous programming experience. We noticed that some of the students who already had a few years of programming experience achieved high scores in their test, but scored somewhat low on conscientiousness. They were strong programmers with appropriate knowledge and know-how of programming as compared with
phf: but they say
phf: one of the quoted studies only looks at consciousness (for pair programming in class setting), and finds correlation. shouldn't that be removed from the metastudy stats on account of scewing one variable.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgsoETPe-I << another interesting pro-chinese piece, by south and north carolinians no less !
mircea_popescu: and I don't know any guy in the world who has an extra pack of socks available "just in case." << now you do. chicks (that don't even wear underwear!) carry spare socks and similar stuff around for my convenience. so there!
pete_dushenski: and in other news, "Walmart discontinued the sale of its "Israeli soldier kids costume" and "Sheik Fagin nose" Halloween costumes after facing widespread backlash, including boycott calls on the chain store's Facebook page."
vulpes_a_hopital: how the fuck does chani have a wikipedia article.
pete_dushenski vaguely recalls this telephone call on landline : "excuse me, is the master of the house in" "speaking" "oh, alright then, did you find rabelais to be objectively scientific" "oh most certainly" "aha. cheers and good evening." *click*
mircea_popescu: i always had this suspicion that rabelais was not always sticking to the true objectivity of science.
mircea_popescu: vulpes_a_hopital you know the medieval cases of undelivered babies calcified in the woman and found at autopsy ?
vulpes_a_hopital: mircea_popescu: does your absurdly broad knowledge bank have anything interesting on the topic of long pregnancies?
mircea_popescu: but i think you'd get kicked out of the 70s if no shoulder pads.
mircea_popescu: for any 5yos reading b-a : do this. the women love it, and then later they'll be like, in your exams and shit. plus mothering the chicks you actually DONT want to marry.
mircea_popescu: vulpes_a_hopital ages 5 to 7 or so, yeah. half my mother's friends!
vulpes_a_hopital: mk. well as someone who actually reviews, teaches and issues canings over code, and knows the personalities involved intimately, i'm going to not give a shit.
mircea_popescu: in the 70s this was an entire subculture i think.
mircea_popescu: phf one of the numerous women i proposed marriage to was actually a chainsmoker fortran programmer.
pete_dushenski: vulpes_a_hopital how long's the labour been thus far ?
phf: mircea_popescu: just more academia inbreeding in this "metastudy". only time i saw fortran code is when helping computation chemistry grgrad students code up their models
mircea_popescu: i bet the woman agrees.
vulpes_a_hopital: the thing i'm already retching over
phf: *track rather
mircea_popescu: this is what they think programming is.
phf: includes such wonderful papers as Personality predictors of performance in an introductory computer course. (1982), MBTI personality type and student code comprehension skill., Predicting student success in an introductory programming course., The effects of openness to experience on pair programming in a higher education context., Identifying predictors of programming skill.
mircea_popescu: phf imagine the sort of unredeemable imbecile who imagines "errors in program code" is objective measure of anything.
pete_dushenski: "Prozac was found to be superior to placebo in only a third of studies." Boom-- Associate Professor. When meta-analyses look at only a few studies (e.g. N=4), if even one of them is a poorly designed study you can overwhelm-- or purposely extinguish-- what might actually be a real effect." << this one phf ?
pete_dushenski: "But how can the author will a meta-analysis to show what he wants it to show? Maybe he could manipulate an individual study, wouldn't a "study of studies" be immune to his dark sorcery? Imagine a study of Prozac vs. placebo in 10000 patients, and Prozac is awesome. Imagine two more studies, each with 6 patients, and Prozac doesn't beat placebo in those. I now have three studies. My meta-analysis concludes:
phf: " Programming abilities were quantified using an objective performance test (e.g.,number of errors in the program code); subjective evaluations of individual’s coding proficiency were not included."
pete_dushenski: "To be in the middle class is to perennially be under threat. But to be the main character of a Dylan or Grateful Dead song is to be poorer, and lower, and free."
pete_dushenski: though since he's firmly in the middle class, he ends up looking down to the LOWER class in envy
pete_dushenski: heh. jack baruth riffs off my 'middle class' article : "We inmates of the middle class envy the rich for obvious reasons but we also envy the poor, because they have freedom."
mircea_popescu: seems dubious. moreover what happened is, "back in 1965, people could actually code - and those people who could actually code were disagreeable neurotics. 50 years later we turned coding into a sort of welfard subdepartment of the ushs, and now those 'coders' are exactly like the rest of the welfare population : open and conscientious. which is why the line before the tsa anal fingering office consists of middleaged w
pete_dushenski: basically fits the 'obedient, diligent coolies' alf describes in http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/29/immigration-policy-is-about-barriers-to-entry-not-fairness-or-how-paul-graham-thinks-programmers-are-inventors/
pete_dushenski: "the personality trait most strongly correlated with programming ability was not introversion or conscientiousness, but openness: a trait that's related to being creative and imaginative"
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 01:46:22; asciilifeform: (i mean, how the hell does the quoted thread re: intel relate to any of this...?)
BingoBoingo: "The first reason was that woman's abdominal body fat decreased their own sexual desire on a hormonal level, which would hamper libido. The second reason could be that men simply found slimmer women more attractive and thus had fewer problems in the bedroom."
BingoBoingo: "Researchers also recorded how often the 699 study participants - Czech men between the ages of 35 and 65 years old - had sexual intercourse."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2015 07:29:28; mircea_popescu: "This tension in anon culture, that every single person is empowered by the whole of the group and thus merits treatment as a peer, turns these individual hostile challenges into a storm of entitled demands for attention. Anons see themselves as peers to everyone, empowered by the support of the group, and thus entitled to participate in any conversation they arent forcibly prevented from entering."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-10-2015#1309798 is a much deeper problem than realised. yes, it's true that the adolescents see themselves as peers to the adults. NOT IT IS NOT TRUE THEY ARE. yes it is this false, unfounded identification that drives both DK and the insane notions of the adolescents as to the failures of both "the world" and adults (these two aren't even really different).
mircea_popescu: the suck he will both be free and able to act.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason this putative is seemingly without answer is because it is castrated. what tlp would do if he realised what's wrong with his head depends on WHY HE REALISED. what would the pubescent girl do if she matured ? nothing the pubescent girl can do BECAUSE maturation is DRIVEN by the VERY DEED! once she finds a boy she loves she will both be a woman and know what to do ; once tlp ACTUALLY understands
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski i must confess that the 'middle class' article made very little sense to me...
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2015 22:15:21; mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/03/bad_at_math.html << it must be pretty infuriating to live in the halfworld that is the us.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2015#1310292 << out of curiosity, what would mircea_popescu recommend for tlp to ~do~ if he were to say 'yes, i agree, usaschwitz sux' ? insert the broomstick?
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f8c207ba384c6c999e16d9a22f3f8e73/tumblr_n5y566K3sj1sqcs9ko1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: on one hand, juan has real bullets in the gun. on the other hand, the state is a theatrical performance.
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/03/bad_at_math.html << it must be pretty infuriating to live in the halfworld that is the us.
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punkman: "on a key point they concur: In Bin Laden’s final moments, he neither resisted nor surrendered."
mircea_popescu: maybe if they gave bin laden a forgetfulness potion they could muster the balls to approach him
punkman: "They discussed possible situations in which it might still be lawful to shoot Bin Laden even if he appeared to be surrendering — for instance, if militants next to him were firing weapons, or if he could be concealing a suicide vest under his clothing"
assbot: Will the free open source Armory wallet continue to be developed going forward? ... ( http://bit.ly/1O8lcPA )
BingoBoingo: Armory has transitioned to Abandonware after the "phone home" debacle https://archive.is/vDjxw
ascii_field: 'Stretching sparse precedents, the lawyers worked in intense secrecy. Fearing leaks, the White House would not let them consult aides or even the administration’s top lawyer, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. They did their own research, wrote memos on highly secure laptops and traded drafts hand-delivered by trusted couriers.'
kakobrekla: ba gets about half of the 27s 2560x1440
ascii_field: from this thread i find it interesting that mircea_popescu so strongly disbelieves in the existence of proper lcd
punkman: otherwise, I don't care about teh colors enough
punkman: I'd like a colorimeter so I can skip the uncomfortable period when changing monitors
mircea_popescu: i hope they get buzzword cancer. and it'll be unoperable by definition.