BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform powerless in the face of this magic << Serenity to accept the things that cannot change, courage to change the things that can, wisdom to know the difference (TM)(R)
mircea_popescu: re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time.
mircea_popescu: next i'm gonna read about how the us mattered scientifically at some point in its history ?
asciilifeform: elsewhere i noted the example of hobby chemistry - where also it seemed that 'how could it possibly matter what derpy kids dare or don't dare to do, and whether they can get ingredients' but it turned out to.
mircea_popescu: hey, i like that. aspie[rational]. it describes so very much, from the bayesian pseudoscientards to web analytics derps.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what derpy popcollar aspie[rational] mba does or doesn't do.
shinohai: I have tinfoil over mah ethernet cables, I'm safe.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:00:34; asciilifeform: and for every brian micon that needs to be tried for 'illegal bitcoining' you have 1,001 schmucks who were afraid to even read about it because 'they log my packetz'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315946 << the notion that those matter is obscene.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:35:49; asciilifeform: we have a kind of 'barrel' in usa - there is a caste of folks who live in converted 'trailers'
asciilifeform powerless in the face of this magic
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:14:50; trinque: asciilifeform: idea being bitcoind uses -connect=proxy and the proxy handles the other end?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315850 << kinda how the shittrain is ordered currently, but seems far from optimal.
asciilifeform spent more or less his entire free time in the past 2 wks reverse-engineering and auditing gpg, incl. compiled binaries. this has a certain effect on the soul.
shinohai: Is there anything hanbot can't do?
gribble: They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao>; February 2013 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/02>; Bitcoin on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>
BingoBoingo: ;;google they really are buttcoins nao
asciilifeform: nah this is the lolbox
imposter: is this the trollbox?
jurov: lol, bitcoin is ccoming out of the closet?
punkman: and what of the 100 million people smoking/selling dope openly on twitter,facebook,youtube,topix,etc
lobbes: in other lulz: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/11/04/lally-deamicis-brockton-quincy-elections/
asciilifeform: an insult uttered in front of the cattle
asciilifeform: his public dope was an insult to the crown
asciilifeform: it is why he 'had to have problems', rather than why he had problems
BingoBoingo: My take on shrem though was the magazine profile where the reporter mentioned his smoking lamp out in the open made him irredeemably a "drug criminal" in the eyes of USG
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:45:43; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ?
asciilifeform: 'This is SOP for STEM/Biz profs, too. Never be alone with female students. Never mentor them. Never supervise a graduate thesis. A bad review/grade turns into a sexual harassment claim far too easily.'
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315703 << Gotta watch the logs, but big transactions happen in deedbot
asciilifeform: from the commentz: 'Why not honeytrap the honeytrappers with hidden audio/video recording devices? They might be illegal to use without consent in your jurisdiction, but then you need not reveal the recordings until you need to, and I dont think Arrest him for illegally recording evidence that proves my rape allegation was fake! would fly.'
mike_c: I am not understanding this romanian mess.. what the hell does some fire in a club have to do with the PM
asciilifeform: 'Linus is never alone at any conference. This is not because he lets fame go to his head and likes having a posse around. They have made multiple runs at him.'
asciilifeform: if anybody's gonna 'obediently fucks with the thing from within' it'll be a bitcoin-themed isp from somewhere far outside the wot.
funkenstein_: trinque: I don't know who they are but i have had some luck with bitcoincloud.eu vps
ben_vulpes: i'm still kindastonished the thing never had encrypted connections.
trinque: really needs the wotnet to function properly, and this still doesn't fix black holing, just mitm
ben_vulpes: eg if you want to run a node for infrastructure, you should -connect it to a synced node -addnode'd to the network at large.
ben_vulpes: i suspect that the operational protocol must be "one node for the network, one node for infrastructure"
trinque: it is munching on the IP from mp successfully for now
asciilifeform: other than - possibly - mircea_popescu's coming-soon thing
trinque: it would not be surprising to me at all that Amazon obediently fucks with the thing from within
trinque: and two, I would like to move the hosting of the thing off AWS if anyone can recommend a friendlier host
trinque: two things there: one I think I will begin looking into the connect vs addnode tangle this weekend, as it's affecting the proper functioning of the deedbot-
trinque: currently it is trying to catch up from the last orphan ass blasting by feeding from mp's node
trinque: asciilifeform: along the lines of the problems with your node, deedbot- now routinely gets orphans and nothing else blasted at it from various IPs, and will at times not be able to reach the node mircea_popescu gave, though I am not presently certain why
asciilifeform: 'After weeks of waiting to get registered with Berlin authorities, a group of refugees and migrants have sued Berlins main refugee center for failing to grant their asylum benefits on time, which they were promised when Germany took them in.' << lulz
asciilifeform: jurov: this kind of thing is arranged every time usg needs to ban another type of gun.
asciilifeform: of course it is possible that putin personally fakes these, aha.
jurov: please find anything other than rt. anything.
asciilifeform: BUT the latter is an x86 blob and is trivially disassembled
asciilifeform: incidentally hardware raid utterly annihilates (if used correctly - that is, for striping rather than mirroring) all known and unknown 'hdd firmware diddles'
asciilifeform: the old-fashioned kind, with 64-bit pci (not pcie)
Namworld: I just wanted to let it known as I don't think that other guy advertised it around much.
ben_vulpes: Namworld: I'm sure you see the problem with statements-in-the-log-as-operating-agreement
Namworld: Not sure how the transfer would be done, but I'm sure jurov and wao will sign both payment address and amount for the offer and agreement of share ownership upon payment.
asciilifeform: but i will also note, when mircea_popescu tells us 'get the everliving fuck out of usa' he has perfectly good reasons for this.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aside from stoolies, stooges, and other vermin, i elementarily lack the bandwidth to service the demand (and there is now again - demand)
Namworld: There's no share, just a stake in %. No share dilution as of now. Dilution could appear in the form of allowing investments on the site like other dice site where you can stake the bankroll. Although this would in no way be absolute/permanent.
pete_dushenski off to the races. ciao !
assbot: Hits and misses of Ted “The Unabomber” Kaczynski. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ktc5vZ )
pete_dushenski: obligatory kaczynski http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/03/hits-and-misses-of-ted-the-unabomber-kaczynski/
ben_vulpes: shrem was out and out breaking the law
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'card-ok' fella insisted on being obvious as daylight
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: solution : go kazcynski on their ass
kakobrekla: i thought it was 1) pick up the fella 2) fuck him up
kakobrekla: asciilifeform but does usg really need to honeytrap ? as far as i get it, there is no need for such customs.
ben_vulpes: and that's just 3 questions that should be wrapped up neatly in the operating agreement.
pete_dushenski: jurov: my guess is that your approach is backwards. should have gpg signed statement FIRST, then serious interest follows
ben_vulpes: yes, you're all in the wot, so no need for contracts, they're unenforceable anyways. that said, without formalized business relationships, pricing the paper's...complicated.
asciilifeform would like input from his WoT re: what is the correct thing to do with obvious usg honeytrapping as described earlier.
ben_vulpes: everyone's in the wot (right?) so it should work itself out eventually, but this is an interesting example of how gpgconomy works in contrast to the fiat contracting system.
pete_dushenski: http://altwork.com/ << save the 'angel investor' 'prototype' blah blah, this is an intriguing workspace concept. only about a 2016-btc too
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski has it with the elusive negation
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ?
ben_vulpes: Namworld: it's painful to watch people dragging these details out of you. is there a signed operating agreement in place people can look at somewhere?
Namworld: No, we don't all have 20%. And these are non-voting shares
asciilifeform: kakobrekla was then rich
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski, thestringpuller: the reason i was considering ~not~ keeping a node on my desk is the realization that, if this kind of thing carries on, it cannot really be considered a respectable node.
mike_c: You each have 20%? Are these "voting" shares or silent-partner type?
Namworld: The sale will have to go through jurov & wao anyway
asciilifeform: the very examples of the 'disposable males overdue for the meatgrinder' as portrayed in mircea_popescu's articles.
asciilifeform: there are precious few creatures upon satan's green earth more loathesome than the common spammer.
asciilifeform: i suppose this is a good time to point out that i fucking hate common criminals who lack the brains or elementary decency to make themselves any kind of hard target
pete_dushenski: we'll point him to the log entry when he arrives
pete_dushenski: Namworld: is 'someone' in the wot ?
asciilifeform: i insist on being shot for high treason rather than for somehow associating with spamming scum.
thestringpuller: that's the spirit!
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you gonna let the USG force you to shut down your node?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: don't let them scare you !
lobbes: !up thestringpuller
asciilifeform sadly contemplates unplugging the thing entirely
asciilifeform: if osama bin laden goldstein wants to use my box, plz have the decency to call himself something else.
asciilifeform: which per the ru sp4mz0rsphere, https://crdclub.ws/showthread.php?p=97248 -- is a 'carding' service
asciilifeform: 'We reuse the double-threshold IsSuperMajority() switchover mechanism used in BIP 66 with the same thresholds, but for nVersion = 4. The new rules are in effect for every block (at height H) with nVersion = 4 and at least 750 out of 1000 blocks preceding it (with heights H-1000..H-1) also have nVersion >= 4. Furthermore, when 950 out of the 1000 blocks preceding a block do have nVersion >= 4, nVersion < 4 blocks become invalid
asciilifeform: 'In addition to using cold storage, hardware wallets, and P2SH multisig outputs to control funds, now funds can be frozen in UTXOs directly on the blockchain.'
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
pete_dushenski: *contracts between private individuals being another sort of 'piece of paper' altogether, one obviously needing to be very, very afraid of not honouring
pete_dushenski: i'd argue that this type of posturing ~does~ matter in the sense that it's a further wedge between ( ) boys and ( ) men
asciilifeform: (and was never really a thing in the 'uncivilized' - what does a pashtun need it for?)
asciilifeform: which more or less died out as a scientific field in the 'civilized' world.
asciilifeform: but i'm not convinced. consider the case of chemistry
asciilifeform: and for every brian micon that needs to be tried for 'illegal bitcoining' you have 1,001 schmucks who were afraid to even read about it because 'they log my packetz'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: there also a basic trick involved. when you repaint the opposition as 'criminal', it can then be dealt with using police methods, which are cheaper than black bag work
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it's fist-in-the-face psyops
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aha, why do you suppose they bothered to smash serbia and roll up all of old yugo into usg reich ?
pete_dushenski: one wonders why usg/uk bother with such surveillance legislation at all if they actually have de facto doing-whatever-the-fuck-it-wants-to-whoever-it-wants powerz
kakobrekla: actually iirc there is a huge underground usg army base in mk
asciilifeform: arguably a snore, because in practice usg already had doing-whatever-the-fuck-it-wants-to-whoever-it-wants powerz
asciilifeform: 'New surveillance powers will be given to the police and security services, allowing them to access records tracking every UK citizens use of the internet without any judicial check, under the provisions of the draft investigatory powers bill unveiled by Theresa May.'
assbot: Theresa May unveils UK surveillance measures in wake of Snowden claims | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmLrQX )
asciilifeform: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/04/theresa-may-surveillance-measures-edward-snowden
asciilifeform: 'What we have to question ourselves is, as a society, do we really want to criminalise 13, 14 and 15 year-olds? Or do we want to understand their behaviour, engage with their incredible skillsets, mentor them and try to point them in the right direction? she said.' << aha, a course of neuroleptics followed by lifetime indenture at junior www dev work in usg sharashka, is the implication.
asciilifeform: can't wait for the психушка !!
asciilifeform: 'A humanistic, cognitive psychology approach to hacking would be to consider an emotion such as revenge
But my favourite explanation for the academic literature is a Freudian psychoanalytic approach to hacking, which actually conceptualises hacking in Freudian terms as a cyber-sexual urge to penetrate. And there are castration complex overtones in terms of being cut off from the network as well
'
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shinohai: !s http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/03/hackers-gonna-hack-but-why-maybe-freud-has-the-answer
asciilifeform: (this is a not altogether bad heuristic for what is a usg colony - can you bribe a traffic cop ?)
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am
asciilifeform: like most of the planet.
kakobrekla: this is a place where cops still take bribes. all of them.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: looks spiffy from the photos
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asciilifeform: perfectly fine accommodations, physically - about on par with my old flat. BUT you have to live near the other dalits.
kakobrekla: just keep the top closed.
asciilifeform: we have a kind of 'barrel' in usa - there is a caste of folks who live in converted 'trailers'
asciilifeform: barrel is not so terrible. it is being solely a barrel's radius from the mass of stinking, writhing human refuse that typically surrounds the barrel, that is.
kakobrekla: before bitcoin, i was living in barrel because no matter what i wanst going to be a part of the slave system. you wouldnt call that living.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:24:30; asciilifeform: i don't expect to live to eat even the very tip of that carrot.
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315880 < comes down to the definition of 'living'
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 15:02:51; mircea_popescu: so here's something for alf : "Through much of their history US finishing schools emphasized education in the social graces and de-emphasized scholarship: society encouraged a polished young lady to hide her intellectual prowess for fear of frightening away suitors. For instance Miss Porter's School in 1843 advertised itself as Miss Porter's Finishing School for Young Ladieseven though its founder w
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315803 << i used to work very near the (now - demolished, and replaced with obscenely imitative - of it - sprawl of condos) ruins of a 19th c. 'finishing school.'
asciilifeform: i don't expect to live to eat even the very tip of that carrot.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the carrot dangleth before you, and when you finally taste it, may that fateful day come, you'll be in the unfortunate position of having to find still another carrot to chase.
asciilifeform: and it is responsible for most of the #ifdef noise, also
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315409 << /me dusts off 1870 printing of 'the academic questions'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you probably knew this, but i live in 'break my back to pay the bills and with the scraps of time and energy that remain, work on s.nsa' mode.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah it's a perfectly logical sort of depressed. down-->'my pathetic handful of coin won't even pay a month's rent'; up-->'now there's many fewer that i could ever hope to have'
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 16:00:49; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi what the 1st note says. can you explain the intended meaning ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315811 << looks like it's missing a "not" in the first sentence
asciilifeform: trinque: the real problem is that -connect results in a castrato node
trinque: then maybe munches log looking for signs of rude nodes?
trinque: asciilifeform: idea being bitcoind uses -connect=proxy and the proxy handles the other end?
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assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 04:43:02; ben_vulpes: anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315616 <--> http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/25/a-retrospective-on-six-years-in-the-car-blogosphere/
asciilifeform: trinque: the tricky part is that it needs to switch destinations (nodes) when the local node aborts
trinque: you recommend a separate proggy rather than patch to bitcoind?
asciilifeform: and it sits below 'pogoization' on the list, also.
asciilifeform: the whole 'noble nodes' thing is on my plate but i elementarily lack the time right now to do any of it.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:40:55; trinque: meanwhile I'm looking into what can be done about the node losing its connection to polite nodes, getting orphans barfed at it by impolite nodes
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:23:52; mircea_popescu: <assbot> Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want << kinda what "the traditional marriage" institution means innit.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315736 << the way to do it is gpg --homedir /tmp/dirthatyoumadefortheoccasion
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apple, like a time-and-spacewise miniature tabletop model of usa and the west at large, is burnings its furniture.
mircea_popescu: idem. wtf, is there a negation problem ?
mircea_popescu: "True, and disingenous. Truly disingenous. They absolutely are "taking responsibility" for the whole stack, but in the opposite direction of that Moldbuggian notion of the modern bureaucracy dissolving both authority and responsibility across the whole organization. Apple's working quite well to gather the mantle of authority around themselves while avoiding any responsibility at all for the work that they produce."
mircea_popescu: the narcs are definitely going to be running mexico going forward.
mircea_popescu: "George Bush was one of these people as well. An intimate of his machine once described his public behavior to me, the long and short of which is that the man is excellent at regurgitating that which had been said to him or that he'd heard, and to stitch together a pastiche that can pass for creative conversation, but largely unable to cook up his own output." << sounds like ivy league.
phf: mod6: original v uses mkdtemp for keyring folder. the general idea is that you don't want to reuse the keyring folder, since it's a place where state is kept for no good reason. you can make sure on startup that you also check that the folder doesn't exist & clean it up before using it, but..
punkman: http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/cartel-boss-states-we-are-not-terrorists-using-narco-banners/article_62983176-828f-11e5-8614-b79fa686dd4d.html
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi what the 1st note says. can you explain the intended meaning ?
mircea_popescu: i can't fucking read this gunk. /me skips to footnotes, in perhaps the first occurence this century of that once-prevalent approach
mircea_popescu: i bet they hit on chicks by schematics, too.
mircea_popescu: "o no we must do the bio insert IT IS HOW WRITING IS DONE!11!"
mircea_popescu: "Phil Schiller, Apple's longtime senior vice president of worldwide marketing5, is waiting for me when I arrive at Building 3 at the company's Infinite Loop headquarters in Cupertino, California on an unusually warm fall day." motherfucker these idiots.
mircea_popescu: r offering a rigorous curriculum that educated the illustrious classicist Edith Hamilton. Today the situation has reversed: Miss Porter's School downplays its origins as a finishing school, and emphasizes the rigor of its academics." . now check out the banner : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/%22For_God._For_Country._And_for_Yale.%22_Banner.jpg
mircea_popescu: so here's something for alf : "Through much of their history US finishing schools emphasized education in the social graces and de-emphasized scholarship: society encouraged a polished young lady to hide her intellectual prowess for fear of frightening away suitors. For instance Miss Porter's School in 1843 advertised itself as Miss Porter's Finishing School for Young Ladieseven though its founder was a noted schola
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:34:09; mircea_popescu: shinohai here's the problem : explain to me that you are defending "traditional marriage" aka "between a man or a woman" ~for the principle of the thing~ but not at the same time "traditional marriage" aka "the husband can take it whenever he feels like". they're both the same thing.
mircea_popescu: if anyone was fucktarded enough to buy into the scam on its final phase, i would like to meet them.
mircea_popescu: Ethereum (ETH) $ 0.748576 (-24.18 %) 0.00152907 BTC (-39.43 %)
mircea_popescu: consultant @ nothing in particular, doesn't really look the right age range for this nuttery.
shinohai: I know, it appears like diaz or something round here. It only pops up in there bcuz I follow qntra, et all
mircea_popescu: shinohai popescu is like the most common romanian name.
trinque: meanwhile I'm looking into what can be done about the node losing its connection to polite nodes, getting orphans barfed at it by impolite nodes
mircea_popescu: solrodar the problem with precedent and rule based systems is that you don't know what will happen until it actually happens. i would guess what would happen here would be the bet gets cancelled and so the nos get their btc back too, and perhaps the ability of bet starter to create that clause gets curtailed.
solrodar: it would be acceptable for bitbet to destroy it by sending it somewhere provably unspendable, but not to keep it for themselves
mircea_popescu: god i hate bucharest. just looking at that picture... brrrrr. but unrelatedly, if you lived behind one of those front windows, and there was a protest at night like that, wouldn't you fuck the woman for the camera ?
solrodar: punkman: in the absence of any precedent or rule for this situation, I suppose nobody has a claim on the money
shinohai wishes there was an actual "#b-a Bible" written in a religious-styled prose ...
mircea_popescu: ofcourse it is, says so right in the churchly book.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, the mayor in question is the chimp of all time. known as the aka "piedone", because when he was young http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076544/
mircea_popescu: shinohai here's the problem : explain to me that you are defending "traditional marriage" aka "between a man or a woman" ~for the principle of the thing~ but not at the same time "traditional marriage" aka "the husband can take it whenever he feels like". they're both the same thing.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony mmyeah, some cattle got burned so now they want the mayor in prison. because logically, that's what matters. when teh politruks set the whole country on fire nobody gave a shit, but god help you if some moos get run over.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah i think the idea is to have a temp space.
shinohai: marriage should be like an alliance between friendly nations. Outside of that it is a horrid concept, as defined in the us
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want << kinda what "the traditional marriage" institution means innit.
mircea_popescu: soo, re mpex : the trouble has been identified, i'm pretty sure. will be fixed and then tested etc, i expect mpex back before the weekend.
fluffypony: "32 people died (and a lot more in critical condition) because of a fire in a club last Friday. The problem is that the the local authorities allowed that club to function without even the most basic fire-precaution measures, which essentially led to the fire and that many victims (150 injured and as i said before quite a few in critical condition). With a bit of a bribe you can do anything in Romania."
punkman: solrodar: but do the losing bettors have a claim on that money?
solrodar: if there are no winners, then the whole thing is null and void and the money should be sent back to where it came from
solrodar: I think the only fair response would be to cancel the whole bet and refund the other side as well
solrodar: what happens if ALL the bets on one side are refunded?
shinohai: no worries, I finally stopped being lazy and fixed me ml mail to go to the correct email for btc-dev.
wyrdmantis: shinoai thanks dude, no time to read the logs in this period
shinohai: dunno mircea_popescu said sumthin in the lawgs about it crappin out for some unknown reason.
shinohai: think it is down across the board
Namworld: It comes with a right to ~50 BTC from undistributed bankroll. So there's already a base price of 2.5 BTC per %. and some offers. Although if you want to make an offer, you should drop a mail at support email or something. Sure our guy would appreciate.
copypaste: How much was the buyout ?
copypaste: " In other news cazalla wished to take an extended vacation from Bitcoin and recieved a buyout for his board position. " http://qntra.net/2015/11/qntra-s-qntr-october-2015-report/
Namworld: Is there anyone interested in buying 20% of Coinroll? If he didn't ask in here yet, I know someone who wants to do just.
trinque: sweet, there it goes with 381964
assbot: Ethereum (ETH) price, charts, and info | Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pexkvq )
mircea_popescu: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/ << check out the scamcoin getting burned into the ground. so after the sucker jump, the volume is up, the mkt cap constant, the price dropping like a rock.
trinque: the orphan blocks started after 381963
trinque: 2gb ram, using 500mb, 1 core but not using nearly any CPU at the moment
trinque: no, and it's high time I switched to the proper client; this has been on btcd for quite a while
trinque: deedbot- is having a terrible time getting a node which will speak to him at the moment
BingoBoingo: Obama feeds them
mircea_popescu: https://www.quora.com/Who-originated-the-saying-What-fresh-hell-is-this << this posteriorist crap is boggling my mind. so there exists somewhere a schmuck, married by his mugshot, who actually goes around expertly answering questions on social media with regurgitation of other social media sources ? "according to twitter, facebook invented the internet" ?
BingoBoingo: ^ Godfather of ISIS dead
asciilifeform is lately in the habit of reading things before running'em
asciilifeform: ^ this means that attempts to run with smaller subsets of a wot that was ~ever once~ used on the box - will fail !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: best summary of us importance in the world.
mircea_popescu: "While thats a big deal for the U.S. industry and the people it employs, it doesnt mean much for global supplies. Alcoas decision to eliminate 503,000 metric tons of smelting capacity accounts for about 31 percent of the U.S. total for primary aluminum, but less than one percent of the global total, according to Harbor."
felipelalli: it was unrelated. In my case the HD just crashed. I was using an old external HD :)
felipelalli: it is weird because I run an instance of testnet and normal node in the same machine and both are dead.
trinque: felipelalli: it is about 20 blocks behind at the moment, so it shouldn't be too long, perhaps an hour
trinque: so it will be on the website shortly
trinque: I am not yet sure why; it was accepted though, and also the transaction was sent
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed.