mircea_popescu: and "no other results"
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mircea_popescu: ;;google "Be content to bind them by laws of trade. You have always done it. And let this be your reason."
mircea_popescu: pays the rentz.
assbot: DOJ indicts man who blasted false stock info on Twitter then traded on it | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Ky9D )
mod6: Today is the one year anneversary of the Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignty. Happy Independence Day!
asciilifeform: the train usually referred to as 'diamon' was, iirc, schindler's
mircea_popescu: the gas chambers, Kastner had sacrificed the mass of Jewry for a chosen few, the judge said. The verdict triggered the fall of the Israeli Cabinet.
mircea_popescu: other SS officers, thus allowing Becher to escape prosecution for war crimes. The Israeli government sued Gruenwald for libel on Kastner's behalf, resulting in a trial that lasted 18 months, and a ruling in 1955 that Kastner had, in the words of Judge Benjamin Halevy, "sold his soul to the devil". By saving the Jews on the Kastner train, while failing to warn others that their "resettlement" was in fact deportation to
mircea_popescu: Kastner moved to Israel after the war, becoming a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and Industry in 1952. In 1953 he was accused of having been a Nazi collaborator in a pamphlet self-published by Malchiel Gruenwald, a freelance writer. The allegation stemmed from his relationship with Eichmann and another SS officer, Kurt Becher, and from his having given positive character references after the war for Becher and two
asciilifeform: nsa is also the only (afaik) shop ~outside of the threadbare academia tournamentmarket~ that hires b. of s. in maths straight out of school
asciilifeform: they think 'ooh a job opening, i can pay rentz'
mircea_popescu: but i am pretty blown away that they really think this is a sane approach. either unemployment/hunger/despair is a lot higher than i thought
mircea_popescu: the flesh knows.
mircea_popescu: understand, at the statistical level we're discussing, the delusions of the scum don't matter.
mircea_popescu: so then not swat.
mircea_popescu: a "secret service" whose name is in the press ? seriously ?
asciilifeform: the other prong is that 'black' work has a distinct upside of 'i don't have to write on my cv that i played 'doom' for five years'
asciilifeform: one is that a tour of duty in the dungeons is good for a few 100k in a mega-zaibatsu (e.g., 'raytheon') later
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, it's not 5%, but it's not the 30%ish that'd be required for this nigerianess ?
asciilifeform: the appeal is two-pronged
mircea_popescu: is unemployment THAT bad that the proles have actually given up on anything, will take the meal ticket ?
asciilifeform: this might be in the logz
mircea_popescu: nobody makes a lot of money working for fucking nsa, it's worse than civil service for chrissakles, you'll end up married to a "social worker" and she'll pull more than your weight on the single room mortgage.
mircea_popescu: i don't really follow the appeal of this tho. so you get a nsa job, what's the value ? i mean, top quant uni, top high street lawyers uni, i can see, the idea is "go here maybe you get a golden ticket - make a lot of money"
asciilifeform: or so the legend went.
asciilifeform: at one point there were even seekrit penthouses in various uni bldgs, where the lift wouldn't go
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 09:41:44; BingoBoingo: "Together, the 100 schools that made the list "produce the greatest number of students who are employed by the Intelligence Community (IC), have the closest relationships with the national security state and profit the most from American war-waging," according to Vice. The rankings only report three traditionally conservative universities, indicating that more liberal schools play a larger role in what
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319817 << the dump where i went to school is, or at least was at the time, thought to be ~the~ 'nsa uni'
mircea_popescu: only gender. nigglet = diminutive thereof, a two bit player in niggerdom.)
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent, nigger = a particular sort of demagogue, characteristic to the fall of the us empire. like all demagogoues, the corpse of a once-great realm is his ; like all demagogues he attempts to whip the underclass into hysteria in the hope of somehow exchanging it for value later on ; his minor specificity is that he uses hallucinated "social issues" as frothing agents, usually to do with skin tone, less comm
asciilifeform: i think we have these already
mircea_popescu: pro tip : by the time you start hearing about "african arrogance", you've missed the diamond train.
mircea_popescu: if this entire line's correct, there's about 50-50 odds for black concentration camps before the decade's out.
mircea_popescu: hilary doesn't stand a chance, in this atmosphere. for that matter, it wouldn't be surprising if the democratic party splits up, in multiple bits even.
mircea_popescu: the nigglets are furious at the dismal quality of plunder, have been postponing hopes at the cost of increased hoped-fors. by now they're not just willing to but actually proceeding to beheading the niggers.
mircea_popescu: the more i think about it, the more it seems obvious in retrospect that obama ii was a sort of libtards' own kamakura moment.
adlai: of course story ends badly, our hundreds-page report detailing the flashy new crap's crappiness went ignored as top brass signed the line that's dotted
adlai: turns out this guy's full-time job is to be the ass thorn for such corps, on behalf of the military, to ensure it doesn't get too badly bezzled
adlai: he said, "nah, any guy from $bezzleCorp you see, i'm the thorn in his ass"
adlai: while field-testing $bezzleCorp-supplied equipment, sergeant adlai asked an unfamiliar civilian, not wearing $bezzleCorp.colors, who showed up one day whether he also belonged to them.
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 13:17:25; cazalla: anyway first decimation, now adlai, but how does a neg from mp preclude anyone from remaining in the channel?
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for adlai with note: As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation.
mircea_popescu: !rate adlai -1 As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation.
mircea_popescu: seriously, what must be going on in your head for you to come in here and start with the shoulds ? are you actually stupid or something ?
mircea_popescu: <adlai> also, qntra guidelines should specify << so far jurov's been acting as a broker for the people interested.
mircea_popescu: someone blame mao for it! please. it can't be that at certain stages in the evolution/decay of the horde, THIS happens.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha fucking epic, check out the great leap forward!
mircea_popescu: tudent 1950 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.
mircea_popescu: I. We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1950 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned S
mircea_popescu: The full list:
mircea_popescu: at this rate the country will be ungovernable before obama's term is up, won't even need elections.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fact that the orc horde is devouring the ACTUAL liberal elite... seriously, christakis ?
mircea_popescu: because "fuck you, buy some clothes, find a woman, buy her some shoes, come back. idiots."
mircea_popescu: ip section, there's a teeming mass of dorks in tshirts having been actively denied entrance this whole time.
mircea_popescu: "Protests related to a racially integrated fraternity who allegedly after their party hit capacity closed their doors to everyone but white women have reportedly been subsumed and absorbed by the Sillman College outrage" << spoeaking of which, i finally found the one fucking sane club in b-a. and you will know a sane club by this sign, than when you leave towards 4am womenz in tow, after having spent the night in the v
mircea_popescu: lmao. wanna bet they're actually "syrian refugees" ?
mircea_popescu: With that the Christakis family became the target for outraged students and faculty members for violating their "safe space" with students who are alleged to be residents of Stillman College recorded on videos being circulated asking the member of the National Academy of Sciences "Who the fuck hired you?" (archived).
assbot: AliBongo88 comments on Amir Taaki interview, he's talking about how he got into Bitcoin, and singing a song in the end ... ( http://bit.ly/1MEWShV )
adlai: ah shit, this is embarassing. the bc.i snapshot is too old. https://archive.is/KiV77 should do the trick.
deedbot-: [Qntra] ProtonMail Confirms Ongoing Profitability of Negotiations (For The Terrorists) - http://qntra.net/2015/11/protonmail-confirms-ongoing-profitability-of-negotiations-for-the-terrorists/
adlai: --armor --sign --encrypt, gpg should mention that after the decryption
adlai: actually wait a sec, needs another archive
BingoBoingo: adlai: They default to Jurov's tender love and care
adlai: also, qntra guidelines should specify what happens to shares credited to articles signed by keys unknown to mpex. http://mpex.ws/faq.html#5 suggests they should go into limbo, it should probably be clarified that they default to coinbr (what if a competitor appears?)
BingoBoingo: "Together, the 100 schools that made the list "produce the greatest number of students who are employed by the Intelligence Community (IC), have the closest relationships with the national security state and profit the most from American war-waging," according to Vice. The rankings only report three traditionally conservative universities, indicating that more liberal schools play a larger role in what Vice describes as militariza
BingoBoingo: Malarial side of the river is a thing on a lot of river. One side has bluffs into the water, the other side is swamp
mircea_popescu: what's next, impregnatory side of the cunt ?
mircea_popescu: for the record, "malarial side of a river" is rank nonsense.
mircea_popescu: The crime writer Mark Ebner, whose mailboxes have been increasingly filled with monetary requests, has a theory about it all. I think online begging has become the new economy.
ben_vulpes: that hand is facing the wrong direction
mircea_popescu: in other news, it's time to untangle our tangled lives! http://41.media.tumblr.com/f98c9bf54e7be9827896ae20b26ad214/tumblr_n4x1xvORNz1s3eztgo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: sql format is rather handy, i must say.
ben_vulpes has been bothering kakobrekla for logdumps lately
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 03:55:18; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319690 << the idea i was going to use is, "all the content of my lines is in the logs as presented".
mircea_popescu: in one interpretation : death is a public good ; the red marks are still owned by the owner.
mircea_popescu: one dead slave does not persuade a harem nearly as much as the red marks on a live slave's butt.
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 03:33:07; asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion'
ben_vulpes: jets by any other name would smell as rank
BingoBoingo: What else is there to do?
asciilifeform: (did not picture boxing ring with chess board, but rather a normal-looking chess setting but with boxing)
asciilifeform: ah the small ones
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the sort of mutt common when actual dogs breed unrestrained and in poverty
asciilifeform: what the hell is a pariah dog
ben_vulpes went to see one employee's exhibition fight, walked away staggering under a load of psychoactive gifts from other employees
asciilifeform: or at least one of the two
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:43:11; BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319724 << there is a kind of primordial fog that especially dim people believe to still exist and matter
punkman: there were a couple local ebay-clones here that passed all their data to the taxman. "oh you sold 6 old phones this year? and what did you not have time to incorporate and register for VAT?"
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:37:56; punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319722 << while in usa they are commanded to police income tax
BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance
punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
asciilifeform: but it turns out, there's a ready list !
asciilifeform: y'know, i used to think that it would be at least a little tricky to find initial feedstock for the biodiesel boilers
asciilifeform: 'Another woman was asking for help with the legal bills for her divorce, as her new husband had bolted to Israel. She was a little dramatic in her plea: My life the innocent, carefree life which I had known, and the blissful happy life of hopes and dreams shattered overnight. Instead of partaking of gourmet meals and donning my kalla/bridal trousseau, chaos and turmoil, sprinkled with vicious gossip became my daily food
punkman: other than wot-produced warez, would sure be nice to trade lists of signatures on warez
assbot: The last untouchable in Europe | Europe | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXzOOX )
asciilifeform: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-last-untouchable-in-europe-878705.html << vintage historic curio.
asciilifeform: warez outside of wot makes approximately the same amount of sense as every other wotless wild thing.
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:02:25; asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319645 << dogs will eat teh sausage, and might even stay to watch the porn
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc)
asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion'
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:12:01; mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Theymos Threatens Coinbase's Social Media Privileges - http://qntra.net/2015/11/theymos-threatens-coinbases-social-media-privileges/
mircea_popescu: th injury-- since everything is possible, why aren't you enjoying everything?-- the personality structure becomes overwhelmingly defensive. "If I were Kim Kardashian, then I would be able to do X!" is NOT envy, flip it over and read the redacted obverse: "Only Kim Kardsahians can do X -- therefore it's not my fault that I can't!"
mircea_popescu: But this critique is backwards, it assumes the magazine is trying to trick its audience, this is wrong, the audience is using the magazine to trick itself. The audience wants this distance. It wants heroes, celebrities, people with power-- it wants an upper class-- and it wants them inaccessible. Envy? No, that's advertising, this is the "news." This is what happens when a whole generation's narcissism is threatened wi
mircea_popescu: Of course the easy critique to make, and even this one Hess was not allowed to formulate, is that in this way The Economist conveys the impression that it has personal access to the levers of power, the way Us Weekly recasts publicists as "sources close to Kim Kardashian", shrinking the gap between the magazine and the sources and artificially widening the distance between Kardashian and us. She becomes more important
mircea_popescu: kinda why the one thing the burgeois can't stand is being laughed at, to connect that old point.
mircea_popescu: also why it's never a stable solution, keps needing more and more. gotta have aml , because otherwise there IS something they can do and the whole charade collapses.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the entire point of the "justice system" ie, imposition of a certain ideology over willing or unwilling objects, is not "you will get hurt" but "there is NOTHING you can do".
mircea_popescu: trinque generally, the victors have better things to do. the defeated is only important in his own system, to himself. that's how he got fucked in the first place, after all.
mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the when is besides the point, you were inquiring as to the theoretical underpinnings.
mircea_popescu: trinque tlp loved that show. iirc the next episode was the one with the forced bicycling.
mircea_popescu: "this is the us president coming live from amateur night in thailand's top tranny spot!"
mircea_popescu: the point is "hey, listen to your guy squeal. you gonna do something ? hm ? next week ? next month ? your guy ? isn't this sad ? you gonna do anything ? can't do anything ? you suck this bad ? what will happen when it's your turn ? still nothing ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point isn't that "hey, we killed this guy" / "oh, you got lucky / it was an accident / never happened".
trinque: no, I take that back. those that bested you watching is worse than the "public"
trinque: I dunno that it really matters who's watching you fuck the pig, just so long as you're not alone with your date
asciilifeform: imho this could actually be a puzzle - how do you publicly humiliate a vanquished enemy when there is not a public ?
trinque: some british show did this very thing with the prime minister, had me roaring with laughter
trinque: this guy can even overthink forcing the head of an agency to fuck a pig...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we don't need it, they do
asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:18:36; mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
mircea_popescu: "amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu"
mircea_popescu: trinque prolly where it's going to end up eventually. not sure atm if the extra iron doors needed
trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
trinque: mircea_popescu │ incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? << certainly. does assbot perhaps dump what it has seen somewhere, kakobrekla? my logs would only go back so far.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319491 << the common disease of the diseased is the disease.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:56:29; asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319475 << no, you do not want them dead.
mircea_popescu: but the cattle still wants to "i have no choices" and "what could i do" and so forth.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:48:30; asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? << No particular reason, just entering the loss of a few into the record
mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
mircea_popescu: which is why the right time to leave is that time when leaving IS NOT YET REASONABLE.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:33:40; BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319450 << as asciilifeform's example illustrates, this is a funnel not a game. at the point X becomes reasonable, X also becomes untenable. this is how this works.
mircea_popescu: not in the sense herein contemplated.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319423 << aha. lulziest thing in the world.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:12:59; asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
asciilifeform: 'An interim injunction handed down by a judge in Canada has granted forensic experts under MPAA supervision access to hosting accounts and domains operated by Popcorn Time, including VPN.ht, its official VPN service. Nevertheless, VPN.ht remains defiant, insisting that its service exists outside Canada and has not been compromised.'
asciilifeform: woman is right here in the 'cave' with me. like tank crew, silently doing the right thing.
asciilifeform: anyway the whole pit/cave system never quite made sense to me
mircea_popescu: eh no they don't.
asciilifeform: they don't build pits, only colonize ?
mircea_popescu: why the fuck isn't it "cuntpit" i wanna know.
mircea_popescu: as tlp wel lpoints out, it's not that "work" invades the home. is that you need the blinker for existential support.
asciilifeform: and they'd have to
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw it explains the unpopularity of 'telecommute' scheme in usa
asciilifeform: (minus the old woman)
mircea_popescu: how the fuck else.
mircea_popescu: y, to beat her, to fuck her, to talk to her. Depending on how close they are, and marriages go through phases anyway. Some husbands may sleep with the woman, some may sleep at the workshop, some may alternate. And marriages go through phases anyway. The woman may not visit her husband. The kids do not generally get to, except boys of sufficient age, if the father even likes them at all. Which isn't that much of a given
mircea_popescu: "Let me tell you a little of "traditional marriage". The traditional marriage of the Greekxiii works like so : the married woman, and her children, keep house in the castle. The married man, with his apprentices, keeps a workshop somewhere in the workshop quarters, outside the walls. He has an older woman there who cooks, because the apprentices are entitled to be fed by the master. The man visits the woman occasionall
mircea_popescu: it's the manner in the civilised world (aka "eastern europe" in some sources). i suppose i should fish for this.
asciilifeform: (but they didn't do daughters)
mircea_popescu: that way the manner she's accustomed will be correctly calibrated.
mircea_popescu: no, that's not it. "you want kids, you live with the niggers. that's where the kids factory is. i commute to mine, you commute to yours."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319415 << the obvious solution is obvious.
mircea_popescu: children don't compete. that's the thing with childhood,
mircea_popescu: in general, if you aim to raise children it's a bad idea to pick the nation of idiots.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:04:24; ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
mircea_popescu: they're like.... annoying 50s housefrau. "do whatever you will but don't go naked!111"
mircea_popescu: who are these schmucks ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:34:16; asciilifeform: 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons
asciilifeform: the way it works is,
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:28:31; ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319367 << you don't understand how the revolution work.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:16:04; asciilifeform: and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319358 << wait, isn't this a 100% solution to problems ? there is no rule you must address disk as "disk", it can just be ram.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ?
asciilifeform: eh, how do you know where the container's going.
asciilifeform: and on microphone to say 'i hope i get to be the one to glass ft meade'
asciilifeform: what are we to make of the derping re: 'returning to usa for fair trial' ?
asciilifeform: but the ~symbol~.
BingoBoingo: can't renounce by mail, and the other ways still require US Dept State to recognize the invalidating act and bill Mr. S
asciilifeform: fact is, mr s (or, if you prefer, the character he is playing) has emphatically ~not~ 'set the bozo bit' on usg.
asciilifeform: the absence is conspicuous.
asciilifeform: blackshirts will still take shots at him given half a chance, but renouncing would be a gesture in line with the overall theme of the play
asciilifeform: and technically you can rid yourself of u.s. citizenship in a few other ways
BingoBoingo: Well, to renounce he'd have to go to the embassy or consulate where he'd be subject to arrest
asciilifeform: actual sovereign coutriez, they sorta exist !
asciilifeform: (or what, they won't process his renunciation in moscow ?)
asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
asciilifeform: this is part of why it is difficult to take mr s seriously as anything other than a disinfo plant
asciilifeform: 'A woman at the Intelligence Committee of the House of Representatives had her house raided by the FBI at six oclock in the morning, because shed asked questions about the program.'
asciilifeform: ecuted, after trying to talk to his superiors about the mass surveillance, was himself.'
asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who was investigated and pros
asciilifeform: 'In 2007, FBI agents carried out so-called morning raids at the homes of people who worked or had worked at the NSA, and had tried to blow the whistle on a mass surveillance program they felt had gotten out of control. One man was dragged out of the shower in his home, a gun to his head, in front of his family. Another man opened his door and soon had the house full of black-clad agents in Kevlar vests searching his home until
BingoBoingo: I dunno that bong can quite relieve existential dread in the same way drink does
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
BingoBoingo: As answering these misfortunes might soon lower his future booze to "Country Club" vodka and Thunderbird
asciilifeform: i'd recommend the bong, to better 's-a-incadrat-in-colectiv'
BingoBoingo: So what you are saying is ben_vulpes is hitting the scotch tonight
asciilifeform: usg's present direction is the one where the shop keeper is made to answer for various usgistic misfortunes suffered by his staff (e.g., 'obamacare')
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at the risk of strengthening ben_vulpes's drink, must point out, that the disease is not likely to take this particular form
BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
asciilifeform: not aiming to drive ben_vulpes to the bottle, so i'll not elaborate examples. but i think it is clear.
asciilifeform: they want it all.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 15:54:26; mircea_popescu: tru to life too. "he tried to make the trains wear out the rail!"
asciilifeform: (or so goes the tale)
asciilifeform: they drunkenly burned it, and he answered for it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: hired invalids from the war to run the mill, to 'collectivize ahead of the herd'
ben_vulpes: who became the new 'owners'?
asciilifeform: (except that there'd be nothing for these virile fellas to plunder. they'd be stuck fucking own cows)
asciilifeform: his 'wages' couldn't be garnished, either, or so he thought.
asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it's usg that garnishes the wages, and then cuts the cheques (minus a vig)