mircea_popescu: " a javascript application that stands on the dom." makes no sense to me.
mircea_popescu: the dumbass cgi-in-javascript thing still gets data somewhere.
asciilifeform: there is not, likely, a useful thing to be gained
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is like asking how to reconnect the buttons at an old derelict petrol station
mircea_popescu: they reimplemented cgi in javascript ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you don't. there are no urls, there's a javascript application that stands on the dom.
mircea_popescu: yeah, im sure they are. meanwhile i'm buying a baseball bat and separately a rusty nail.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the press algo must then press all same-tree-level leaves for the given leaf, correct?
asciilifeform: and... they are
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit. i can almost fucking hear it, buncha tards thinking they're "corporate officers" sitting around a cheap glue-and-woodchips table finished in plastic going "hey bill... i think we're getting a great deal on this website outsourcing stuff."
mircea_popescu: i just want all these stupid faggots to be raped, basically.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: stare into the void
asciilifeform: as in, the leaf whereby it is pressed.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: all correct implementations will press the same tree ~given the same leaf~ !!
ben_vulpes: so asciilifeform i notice that none of the "flow" implementations to date have matching output, and the "press" all depend to one degree or another on the inputs to the relevant "tsort" implementations, they're not guaranteed to "press" the same trees. non determinism at this endpoint gives me the willies, is that stupid?
mircea_popescu: namecheap "upgraded" it's website. and it's been a nightmare ever since. now i can't even get a list of my fucking domains the normal way. but lo and behold... they have an "export as csv".
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/3ea4c6cfd1af432bba0675b8bde21056/tumblr_n74hilKQPB1qzuheco1_1280.jpg (nsfa)
asciilifeform: and the cardboard man
asciilifeform: incl. the dog..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the derp[s working for name.com
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 01:24:17; mircea_popescu: https://d19hkjflplfhx2.cloudfront.net/media/about-us/group.jpg << build a more diverse workforce, women still cluster together.
asciilifeform did not go and take 'the test'
mircea_popescu: sure, sure. how much do you want to bet that won't be on the test.
asciilifeform: thing is (again see logz) there are gibblets of usable mechanism scattered throughout the field
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except no such thing actually exists, so what "basics" and "primitives" ? suppose i hire solid state engineers, and want them to know the basics such as cold fusion ?
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 01:02:07; mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "fully homomorphic encryption" supposed to be.
ben_vulpes doesn't know how this nugget failed to make it into the turd
ben_vulpes: "pick another corner, dumbshits, this one is mine."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that is the only solution, right?
mircea_popescu: https://d19hkjflplfhx2.cloudfront.net/media/about-us/group.jpg << build a more diverse workforce, women still cluster together.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so what'd you have preferred, a notice that "I am watching this spot - if you dump trash here I will shoot you. Here's a pic of the rifle."
mircea_popescu: reminds me of romania to a rather large degree, if off by a century or two.
mircea_popescu: how the god forsaken shithole even got to be a country in the first place, all that war profiteering.
mircea_popescu: last time there was a war the argentines came out of it better than literally everyone else.
trinque: I recall that some "selling point" of the thing was its role as a network node other devices would use
mircea_popescu: now they're going to scrap high performance engine production also, so next time they want to invade argentina they rent cessnas in peru or some shit.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the problem being that rolls was one of the precious few spots where britain didn't suck.
mircea_popescu: holy shit even the words of this doomed civilisation are aspirational now. "it means nothing, but what does it aspire to mean ?"
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "fully homomorphic encryption" supposed to be.
mircea_popescu: so then... of fucking course bipedal lifeforms with both eyes will own lame blind asses ?
trinque: that every "great power" is perturbed by this religion and yet it remains speaks endlessly to the weakness of "great power"
ben_vulpes: "Earnings will now be hurt by “sharply lower” sales of corporate jets powered by Rolls engines, together with a more sluggish maintenance market both for those aircraft and bigger regional jets"
mircea_popescu: they grow back.
ben_vulpes: "The newcomer cut full-year forecasts, halted a share buyback and said 2016 numbers would be hurt by slowing sales of engines for smaller aircraft and ships that serve the beleaguered offshore oil industry."
mircea_popescu: <mats> nobody has the stomach to detonate a nuke over al-raqqah << it wouldn't take one. it would take about fifty or so to properly glass the place.
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/rolls-royce-reveals-entrenched-failings-to-stunned-investors << on the "britain sucks" thread
trinque: ben_vulpes: can't even solve the corner pallet crisis; west is toast!
deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] Don't say tragedy of the commons. Don't say it! - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/11/13_dont-say-tragedy-of-the-commons-dont-say-it.html
asciilifeform: 'Expertise in any combination of the following cryptographic primitives is desired: private information retrieval, fully homomorphic encryption, pairing- or lattice-based cryptography, multi-party computation, and distributed key management architectures.' -- from a nazi help-wanted ad
assbot: Updated: Gary Pinkel announces retirement due to health reasons – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pslh0S )
trinque: yep, I know they don't.
mats: nobody has the stomach to detonate a nuke over al-raqqah
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo: could you be persuaded to represent qntra for a voice interview ? << The onus is on them to do the text to voice thing.
trinque: and so I suppose the west truly does not want to live, and so be it
trinque: ben_vulpes: news is reporting people at least claiming ISIS affiliation in the thing, not that I count that as hard confirmation
ben_vulpes: yo so was it $epithet in paris or what?
mircea_popescu: hey, lower than ethereum even.
pete_dushenski to go pick up saddam from mechanic then to dinner. later !
pete_dushenski: "“The Hateful Eight” is not just any 70-millimeter movie: It is only the 10th feature to make full use of shooting in Ultra Panavision, an extra-wide format, but it will actually have the technology’s largest opening in terms of screen numbers."
pete_dushenski: "“We’ve been accused of actually cornering the market on 70-millimeter projectors,” Mr. Cutler said. “It’s probably pretty true. There probably aren’t too many out there that we didn’t find.” Most of them were destroyed, he added, during the conversion to digital projection."
pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/movies/tarantinos-the-hateful-eight-resurrects-nearly-obsolete-technology.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0
mircea_popescu: tarantino all the way.
pete_dushenski: so much for james cameron directing the next b-a flick
mircea_popescu: better for their career.
mircea_popescu: d'oh. anyone thinks they're an actor and said anything that can vaguely be interpreted in the direction of supporting libertard policy, they're gonna wish they said they support child fucking with farm implements instead.
phf: i like the slut version, but it has to sound really bubbly and vapid. i was thinking have actors impersonators, morgan freeman, clint eastwood, christopher walken
mircea_popescu: gimicky enough to actually add value to their shit anyway.
mircea_popescu: tell you what, if it IS a podcast they can do the interview in writing here like sane people, then i'll pay some slut to read my lines out into a mic.
pete_dushenski: i'm proposing that they come here and, if they so desire, have a voice actor play the role of interviewee for the program
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the interviews haven't been done yet ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: where was the podcast thing or whatever it was
hdbuck wonders if the OCP21 thingy will be cancelled.
mircea_popescu: i guess the frfench stuff never happened.
pete_dushenski: hdbuck: what's the fuss this time ?
hdbuck: shit hitting the fan in paris
pete_dushenski: trying to manage "the people" using my tsmr head will take some sorting otu
pete_dushenski: kk scratch the voice idea. interviewers will come here.
pete_dushenski has the sneaking suspicion that he's going to find myself as a guest on podcast. because tmsr doesn't do vocal chords.
asciilifeform: they know where to find us forfuckssake
pete_dushenski: said podcast, "let's talk bitcoin" may also be interested in talking to BingoBoingo and asciilifeform regarding their respective projects.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell chetty you game for in an interview re: eulora ? i have a bitcoin-themed podcast who's interested :)
assbot: Beaches, carnivals and cybercrime: a look inside the Brazilian underground - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQUJF0 )
jurov: https://securelist.com/analysis/publications/72652/beaches-carnivals-and-cybercrime-a-look-inside-the-brazilian-underground/ <<< the marketplace for alf's exploits :D
ben_vulpes: ah, the poverty of my generation.
ben_vulpes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panda-Small-Mini-Dryer-5-5lbs-2-5kg-Compact-Apartment-Dryer-Pan725sf-New-/301640663755?hash=item463b2f42cb:g:aYoAAOSweW5VXhZa << breakeven with the "on site" quarter-driven driver is some 173 loads, minus the value of being able to dry infantwear on demand.
BingoBoingo: Maybe it's just the sobriety thing getting in my head
BingoBoingo thinking now if it would count if the monkeys were blended and used in an enema
jurov: alf would indeed surmise these things must have come from lizard hitler
BingoBoingo: How do you know the lizards now aren't going to make the monkeys and sky thing happen to you nao
BingoBoingo: I was kinda hoping the answer would have been sprat boat
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the same way i would handle monkeys flooding out of my arse while the sky turns fluorescent purple
BingoBoingo wonders how asciilifeform would handle sudden wealth in the form of 2000 BTC, a 20lb gold dumbell (encased in vinyl for concealment), and a duffel bag full of $20 dollar bills.
asciilifeform: 'n-engined airplane theorem' ?
BingoBoingo: Seriously. May the MayoGendered and Law Enforcement in the United States unify in morbid obesity.
asciilifeform: if you like the taste of own blood
BingoBoingo: Doesn't taste very bad either. Very neutral taste
mircea_popescu: but #whatever, me approves of the way we've been moving window. few years ago it was tits for money, now it's cunt for free.
hdbuck: mircea_popescu the future… https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/autoblow-2-a-robotic-oral-sex-simulator-for-men#/
BingoBoingo: No it isn't. Bathroom stalls don't snitch to the popo
assbot: 25+ Changes That Were Made To Your Favorite Childhood Book To Keep Up With The Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1lna5WW )
mircea_popescu: i dun believe either that if stands or it'd matter if it stood.
asciilifeform: if this existed in usa today, it would look like usa circa 1950 and there'd be no question of 'which bottle'
mircea_popescu: unlike the usg, that works a little for itself and the rest for us, i work for us. the whole way.
mircea_popescu: you want the dumbass "community organizers" to run into a group of people who have built natural respect for skill, tested in the field.
mircea_popescu: so let them develop some skill.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't that it is entirely unworkable, but this takes you back to the 18th century, before impact detonator was a thing
mircea_popescu: yeah but where are they gonna get sawdust.
asciilifeform: plastic is a poor choice unless target is stationary (e.g., the glass window of a nazi office).
punkman: so it lands and rolls around, then melts?
punkman: plastic bottle doesn't break, how will it spread the gas when thrown?
asciilifeform: where the petrol harmlessly boils off
mircea_popescu: i got all the changes in just in timwe
mircea_popescu: epic how the rss feed delay worked this time
deedbot-: [Trilema] A Blast From The Past, or, The Molotov Cocktail Guide. This is how you win. - http://trilema.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/
asciilifeform: 'salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the selfsame drowning' (tm) (r) (ru church)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what people do is really besides the point.
asciilifeform: (iirc there are materials - tyvek? - which will not)
asciilifeform: the aspiring diversante is advised to see to it that his peanuts actually dissolve
asciilifeform: and glass bottles were used in ww2 su. lets you use phosphorus or some other fulminating agent to touch the thing off
asciilifeform: today as it was then.
asciilifeform: the bottle does not melt very quickly
asciilifeform: otherwise it tends to spread uselessly
asciilifeform: e.g., the styrofoam that was replaced with 'orange juice' by palahniuk's publisher
mircea_popescu: ahe thestringpuller
asciilifeform: 'A taser delivers ~10 Joules per hit, a Molotov Cocktail delivers ~270`000 Joules per hit, you do the math.' << mno. mostly heats the air. just like when you burn the same petrol in an engine.
assbot: A Blast From The Past, or, The Molotov Cocktail Guide. This is how you win. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HMUhkM )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/ << anyone wanna spellcheck this ?
asciilifeform: re: the idiot publishers censoring basic craft from novels
thestringpuller: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/20/fed-raises-possibility-of-negative-interest-rates.html << oldie but another reason to GTFO the US
shinohai: I find the orange juice napalm recipe from fight club works nice with a more ignition-friendly 2:1 ratio is used.
thestringpuller: don't think a rioter has thrown a molotov cocktail in the US since rodney king
BingoBoingo: Seems like they googled and got disinfo recipes
mircea_popescu: hmmm... listen, is it me or have the us protestors forgotten the ancient art of the molotov cocktail "?
punkman: I remember seeing prices of 50-150+ euros per kilo in spain, but not sure if the cheaper ones were Iberico
gribble: The operation succeeded.
liquidassets: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 <<talking with a potential client yesterday interested in 10-40 acre pasture land, apparently raising pigs and finishing them on a diet of acorn yields Jamón ibérico, some crazy expensive pork belly product native to southwestern Spain.
BingoBoingo: It's an American hospital bill, you will find many there
ben_vulpes: no just the retarded bits
BingoBoingo: Oh ben_vulpes is itemizing the bebe vulpes bill?
liquidassets: sometimes I find myself talking about you with ladyfriend and then she gets it in her head that your "dark" or something, and then I end up defending you, or we end up arguing about it...fucking strange right?
liquidassets: but other times you come through
mircea_popescu: well... this and the maternity ward, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: ahh this place brings out the best in people.
ben_vulpes: ty, asciilifeform! when you get around to it, please please please let me know in which ways i could improve it, or if there are mega-conceptual shifts i could effect within myself to do it better next time.
ben_vulpes: insurance company is covering like 5 days in the hospital
trinque: in this there is truly a psychological elsewhere
mircea_popescu: better lsd on the west coast ?
assbot: And then you never knew what this was... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHStS0 )
trinque: http://trilema.com/2015/and-then-you-never-knew-what-this-was/ << I can only say that I read it five times and liked it more each.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/06635b98d31d5cc03a93730b9089b526/tumblr_nrgwr3Dv1n1utdlodo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform lacks the necessary lsd to properly absorb this
deedbot-: [Trilema] And then you never knew what this was... - http://trilema.com/2015/and-then-you-never-knew-what-this-was/
mircea_popescu: and here's wishing you a happy friday the 13th
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2015 00:44:18; ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg
assbot: How to make money on the Internet while pretending you know what you're talking about and accumulating a legion of mindless followers - for fun and profit! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1InoNBI )
mircea_popescu: see also http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
mircea_popescu: until such a time you can peddle rumours on your own authority you'll be stuck building up that authority. so first, make a name, second, spend some time doing the job.
mircea_popescu: anyway, listen referredbyqntra, make yourself a wot account, try and write any of these up to a reasonable standard, if you manage they'll prolly get approved.
kakobrekla: since words are water, whats with itbit then
mircea_popescu: god knows i've been squeezing the door on bitfinex for years now, i don't know who exactly imagined they'll survive the process. anyway.
mircea_popescu: so the part here that is documented isn't exactly news, on either of these two. the part that's be news apparently isn't documented.
referredbyqntra: bitfinex is in big trouble and is struggling to stay open especially if they lose the taiwan bank account.
referredbyqntra: i do not have the email it was read to me over phone
referredbyqntra: on bitfinex - they lost there principal bank account and now use a taiwan bank account but
referredbyqntra: the us regulator on coinbase is closing in on big fine for violations on money laundering
referredbyqntra: on coinbase. - they lost their silicon valey bank account because their risk was too high. now banking with silvergate (sp?) bank but on verge of losing that bank account
referredbyqntra: can i email them?
jurov: well, you need wot account then
jurov: to this day, and they were widely used before "black coffee" was available
ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> the way it's going now we have software written by lumberjacks and trees planted by pencilnecks. << hahaha
assbot: I have sent back the 60 BTC I was mistakenly able to withdraw from Cryptsy. If this affected you too, please do the same. Don't take someone else's bitcoin. Xmas is coming up : ) - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1PEEf2J )
mircea_popescu: i suspect part of the reason it has a problem "sending even one btc" is that the collected capital of its ... customers, shall we call them that, is not much higher than one bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: punkman someone tried to make a 0 btc bet as to whether "it survives".
mircea_popescu: now you gotta worry about the slaves
BingoBoingo: Problems with pigs is the smell
PeterL: but feeding to pigs (or goats) is probably the tastiest way
PeterL: I think you can also crush them, boil, throw out the water, and then eat the sludge left over
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out. << Or you let the squirrels get them and eat the squirrels at your leisure
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out.
PeterL: oh, and qntra seems extra zippy lately, its pretty refreshing when compared to any other news site
BingoBoingo: PeterL: They should have though about that earlier
assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 19:01:57; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A species of lion did, but since it's gone go to the next best substitute, the African lion.
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322659 << I could be wrong, but I thought the European Lion was more like the Asian Lion than the African Variety
mircea_popescu: im in the process of doing that. will take a bit.
assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 19:22:01; trinque: mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the logs up to last month have been sent through deedbot-
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322712 < i hope someone checked i didnt (accidentally or not) replaced logs with the contents of bitcointalk
adlai: wotbox is one use case for wot-and-blockchain-stuff-exchange, another could be http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318327
adlai would rather elaborate once further along this process -> http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/#selection-43.133-47.1
trinque: I implemented the straightforward spec mircea_popescu made
trinque: approximated by providing a signed hash of the thing when you link it via http
trinque: adlai: assuming a gossipd wotnet, and there being some way to retrieve things provided by your wot in a cryptographically sound manner, the logs would always be enough
BingoBoingo: Also parts of some worthless function that dumps shit in the page header
BingoBoingo: Wordpress is why it was there
BingoBoingo: So, no one's had any problems with qntra since I went deleting a bunch of parts 12 hours ago? Fuck, why was this shit there in the first place? (WordPress)
trinque: nothing's stopping anyone from archiving a site himself and then making a deed of it
trinque: but could be feature creep. it's already collecting useful things as is, like the gpg-1.4 wad
BingoBoingo: "When she told the doctor to treat her as he would treat someone of normal weight for her chronic knee pain,The doctor told her he would ask her to stop doing ruck marches, stop doing challenging hikes with too much gear and to stop competing in the triple jump. "
trinque: adlai: to clarify, I took you to mean that deedbot- ends up doing its own archiving, which is what it's doing as a 1-off for the logs
trinque: for now I think keep it simple, and then it could be revisited after I catch up on other deedbot- work
mircea_popescu: well if no one cares then no one cares.
adlai: right now, assbot's links don't actually snapshot unless somebody visits them and initiates it
trinque: adlai: yep occurred to me that this would be a decent general feature of the thing
trinque: I added a field to my db to track the URL which provided a deed, so I'll be able to use that to more conveniently group them into interesting categories
BingoBoingo wonders if it is possible to get the "munchkin" mutation into larger felines. A colony a panthers with stubby legs in the paris slums would be adorable.
trinque: mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the logs up to last month have been sent through deedbot-
BingoBoingo: and poison oak for the punji sticks
BingoBoingo: And poison sumac for the hedges
mircea_popescu: when BingoBoingo builds his castle, he'll cultivate poison ivy for the walls
mircea_popescu: tho i must confess it does add the valuable "oh, go plant some trees all over europe" dismissal to an otherwise abundant arsenal.