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pete_dushenski: (assuming you're not on the front lines in the trenches)
trinque: then allow me to applaud for you
btcdrak: Instant karma - some dae'sh doosh boasting about Paris attacks gets hit by a missile on camera while spewing his diatribe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJo38dWJpXE&t=13m37s the timing is incredible.
gribble: The Man Who Shot Michael Brown - The New Yorker: <http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop>; Darren Wilson Is Racist, As It Turns Out - Gawker: <http://gawker.com/darren-wilson-is-racist-as-it-turns-out-1721753992>; Darren Wilson opens up about life in seclusion after Ferguson ...: <http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/04/us/darren-wilson-new-yorker-interview/>
BingoBoingo: lol >> http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/minority-police-group-expected-to-announce-no-confidence-in-st/article_3bc760d9-a153-5f00-a386-9e94f31849bf.html >> "Sgt. Darren Wilson, who was the president of the society for three years, was suspended amid investigations that as much as $200,000 went missing from the group."
trinque: "The mafia has a bad reputation, but much of that's undeserved," says Gambino, who moved to Brooklyn in 1988. "As with everything in life, there are good, bad and ugly parts – the rise of global terrorism gives the mafia a chance to show its good side."
pete_dushenski: and for the unawares, Stevan Jovanovich using 'rogers' email indicates that he's a client of the country's largest telco, and that if his comment's place and content weren't sufficiently informative as to his demographic placement, he's almost certainly in his 50's.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: nothing quite beats glass resting straight on metal, nor the tittilating value of fully dressed derps.
mircea_popescu: derps dunno how to detach the foot of a lcd panel!
mircea_popescu: that's the worst layouyt for one i ever saw and wtf is with the window
mircea_popescu: can go through the whole playbook in three years and STILL feign to not be aware who's daddy.
hanbot: mircea_popescu are they still opining about how you're "illegal"?
mircea_popescu: and really, the vegetation of deep russia is stunnignlyt beautiful.
mircea_popescu: the two man saw is pretty clever.
asciilifeform: engl.-speaking folks can enjoy 'i am the only literate for radius of ten thousand li'
mircea_popescu: i dunno that anyone who isn't born in a minor culture can ever enjoy this situation of "i am the only literate one of my people. literally."
mircea_popescu: other than the same-day homage thing, i would guess between half and two thirds of every romanian blog is either a straight lift, a bad translation or a more or less hacky adaptation of either current or historical trilema.
mircea_popescu: oh, and since we're it, the definitive example of the relationship between trilema and "the romanian blogosphere" : http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/ on 20 oct ; http://www.piticigratis.com/2015/11/in-continuare-esti-inconjurat-de-idioti-si-ce-inseamna-asta-pentru-tine/ on nov 20th.
assbot: I need some legal advice, because my roommate is a paranoid imbecile! - The Something Awful Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1TbqSrc )
mircea_popescu: did the guy EVER write something worth reading ?
mircea_popescu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/RogerEbert << check that out, apparently tvtropes thinks ebert is not only worth the mention, but actually a big deal. somehow.
kakobrekla: ill take another shot if its still alive on my next visit
kakobrekla: too bad i didnt take another.
punkman: trinque: could pick up food in their palms them eat < they don't need extra finger for that
asciilifeform: rodents typically gotta use both paws to hold the food
trinque: the thumbs aren't very strong, but hey, it's a start
danielpbarron: mod6, ya I'm almost there
trinque: could pick up food in their palms them eat
trinque: my ex had two of these, and yeah they can use them
mod6: anyway, i dunno, for me its a toss up between For Whom The Bell Tolls & A Farewell To Arms.
asciilifeform: these creatures, it is said, can open doors.
mod6: Did you ever read A Natural History Of The Dead - short story?
asciilifeform: they still exist today, somewhere.
mod6: And yeah, BingoBoingo, Hemingway was an ambulance driver, wounded on the Italian front, so the story goes. He wrote about it in A Farewell To Arms.
mircea_popescu agrees with the general frenchypoof notion of the pre-mitterand years that cooking is indeed an art and mssr duchemin rightfully accepted in the academy.
asciilifeform: the culinary folk have notions of art, no ?
mircea_popescu: who knew the problem apelles of kos dealt with is actually much broader than just an annoying shoemaker.
mircea_popescu: but the other edge is to observe that fiction HAS to be predictable specifically because it isn't nonfiction. there not being a reality to feed from other than what emerges from the fact that the reader can follow, you're stuck.
assbot: Logged on 23-11-2015 20:26:41; mircea_popescu: "What often deters writers from going through with the above plan is the fact that, well, Most Writers Are Writers. They're writing a character who's supposed to be a musician, but they don't know the particulars of meters or chords. They have a character who is a military expert, but they don't know how long an infantry division can fight until it needs to be resupplied. They have a character who's
mircea_popescu: this is an interesting problem to have. one edge of it could be readily dismissed as "well obviously if you can't write so instead of writing you substitute copywriting as per http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-11-2015#1330345 & all, imonlydoingmyjob bla bla you will be predictable, after all copywriting is designed to work much like computer codewriting : others gotta be able to pick up your job once you quit"
mircea_popescu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildMassGuessing << this is pretty interesting. the idea being, and i cite, "The trope has also become increasingly important in more traditional fiction as of late because the Internet's technological revolution is such that an author's "twists" could easily be predicted ahead of time if enough clever fans put their heads together and talk things over. (And over.) "
mircea_popescu: anyone seen horsefeathers ?
mircea_popescu: maybe the best couplet in the history of english lolzedy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the vt links are 'android' turds, vs winblowz
asciilifeform: if anybody here has a current vt subscription, i'd like the samples, thx
mircea_popescu: ok, but i mean specifically "who the fuck embeds this ip"
asciilifeform knows far more than any sane person would wish to re: vt, having sat on a $100K/y all-you-can-eat subscription for the latter
asciilifeform: eh vt will list anybody who walked the lan
mircea_popescu: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/192.168.0.29/information/ not much there really. some derpy windows virus, various smartphone crapolade.
mircea_popescu: o hey check it out, the key to driving mass linux adoption was copying minesweeper and solitaire, who knew.
mircea_popescu: the supa-secret INSULTINGPAYLOADS programme
asciilifeform: the 498 bt
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: care to post the payload ?
asciilifeform: (and, if your lan is actually 192.168.* - possibly other box owned)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform .0 would asctually be the ISP provided modem.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that address doesn't map to any machine, nor could it.
mircea_popescu: o hey check this out, it sorta looks like that tempest-storm-whateverthefuck nsa server fucked up.
assbot: Logged on 23-11-2015 02:58:44; mircea_popescu: isn't ammonal about on par with black powder, in the sense that if it gets wet you can go salt your food with it ?
mod6: ok last 10k of debug.log / nmon raw collection / charts can be found here (if interested): http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/v054-TEST2_OOM-20151123
mod6: the charts are kinda interesting -- they start from a fully sync'd node so there isn't any full-sync to witness, only the draw down of mem until oom.
asciilifeform: if it segfaulted it will be there.
mod6: maybe i'll just post like the last 10`000 lines or something.
mod6: ohmahgerd the debug.log is 7.6 gb
mod6: each time it's crashed, there hasn't been anything too telling in the logs. i'll post my log, and the charts along with the raw nmon metrics collection.
jurov: i run mine intermittently, still feeding from 0.10, did not die yet. but it complains about nonstandard tx all the time
mod6: finally died, was started on the 1st of november. left me with a 73Mb nmon file.
mod6: so my compiled version of TEST2 (running on a m3.medium instance) died again, finally. i saw it die twice within about 15 days of eachother in october. so this time I ran nmon the entire time.
ben_vulpes: jurov: grindr's really that central to the pickup scene /there/?
BingoBoingo: He did, but his family has to bankrupt the Evil School
shinohai: I hope BingoBoingo does a Qntra take on Achmed the clock boy's parents filing civil suit for a cool 15 mil
phf: well, you know how smart people learn from others' mistakes, idiots from their own?
phf: ffi left me so unsure of the state of the system, i couldn't make myself trust the result. it's like 4 abstraction layers, all leaking.
asciilifeform: ffi is a thing of the heathens.
asciilifeform: phf: it only makes sense to do gossipd in cl if you reimplement the crypto
phf: but yeah i switched back to writing cweb, and made progress on it, but the amount of careful thinking that's required with c, lisp prototype would not have bought me anything.
phf: ~half~ out of sync with the actual code, but also in breaking all legacy approaches without better alternatives to replace them with)
phf: asciilifeform: you were right re gossip prototype in common lisp. it was a needless distraction, i spent a long time getting lisp gpgme bindings working, and the end result was still pos. i'll just send the patches to gnupg ml, and maybe they'll update upstream, but that's not gotten me anywhere closer. i learned that cffi is mostly a mess. (someone worked some improvements on cffi recently, which resulted in cffi documentation being
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no see, it's not that the war started, he should have fought but he hightailed it, so he covers up for it. it's that he's a murican not an ottoman so he figures he CANT be man enough. so to assuage his own neuroticism (why the fuck couldn't he be ?! what, manhood now comes with formal tags on it ?) he makes up a supportive story in a land far away.
mircea_popescu: (when i was a kid there was this other kid that got REALLY angry whenever i told a joke. "ITS NOT LIKE THAT".
asciilifeform: most folks solve this 'problem' (if you will) simply by 'i dun wanna talk about the war'
asciilifeform: i always found it interesting how come personalities are natural confabulators - in the sense that even if the fella has something legitimate to brag about, he will still insist on adding flourishes and 'shit bolted on the side'
asciilifeform: like the later mr ray-gun
mircea_popescu: rather reminescent of gop pres candidates
mircea_popescu: he made up some story about how he was wounded in the war
asciilifeform: where was the fraud? he was a 'rear rat' ?
mircea_popescu: then all their prose is equally and uniformly bland and stupid and hey, they give each other prizes.
mircea_popescu: fucktard doesn't know "the particulars" nevertheless thinks he can write up a musician
mircea_popescu: and by now "they just want to"
asciilifeform: at one point, long ago, folks who wrote fiction (at least the better sort of sf) were people who ~did things~
mircea_popescu: motherfucking hack, go sell shoes.
mircea_popescu: this is the direct equivalent of the heckled comedian going "hey, i work here! how would you like it if i came to your workplace and hecked you!"
mircea_popescu: this is why it's fucking culture : so you either know, quite well and exactly, what kind of problem a genius would approach and how, or YOU MAY NOT USE THE FUCKING WORD IN YOUR STUPID PILE OF DRIVEL.
mircea_popescu: of convincing detail means the reader does not believe, whether it is fixing an engine or presenting the actual philosophy of a character purported to be wise, and can make the readers long for the informed ability."
mircea_popescu: One choice the writer has is to go ahead and show the supposed "ability". But if they don't do the research, this leads to such laughable characters as the scientist who spouts Hollywood Science, the tactician who comes up with the sort of tactics a five-year-old would think of and the "genius" who is only a genius because they're the only one coming up with any plan at all, and everyone else is downright stupid. Lack
mircea_popescu: On occasion, the ability cannot adequately be portrayed by the medium used for the work. For example, a comic book cannot show how good a character's singing voice is, and a radio show would, at best, be forced to merely describe a character's great paintings.
mircea_popescu: haven't a clue what kind of problem only a genius would be able to work through, or how. If they actually attempt to show the ability in action they take a very real risk of the portrayal falling completely flat.
mircea_popescu: "What often deters writers from going through with the above plan is the fact that, well, Most Writers Are Writers. They're writing a character who's supposed to be a musician, but they don't know the particulars of meters or chords. They have a character who is a military expert, but they don't know how long an infantry division can fight until it needs to be resupplied. They have a character who's a genius, but they
mircea_popescu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InformedAbility << i introduce this into the record as the definitive reason ustarda can't write.
mircea_popescu: well, by limiting themselves of an audience of similar quality.
asciilifeform: how do these 'people' masquerade as people, at any point...?
asciilifeform: confabulation is one thing, but the sort of cheap 'retell plot of famous film as own life' is unworthy even of an alcoholic hobo pseudo-vietnam-veteran
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Rainmaker - http://trilema.com/2015/the-rainmaker/
mircea_popescu: mthreat ^ there, have a lolz.
mircea_popescu: if only they could spend 10 trn like president bahamas, they might've won.
mircea_popescu: gifts to the poor cost ~8bn, still lost.
mircea_popescu: the independent currency jumped 10% or so.
mircea_popescu is looking forward to hearing just how badly mismanaged the country was and just how much hay mas futuro is really left in the vaults.
mircea_popescu: (i'm not asking emptily. i know he's nobody, because i don't know who the fuck he is. i googled, and the only hit is a 2014 article in which forbes is pushing the same name on the same topic. so really, worse than nobody. so then ?)
mircea_popescu: good thing they pixelated.
assbot: Logged on 22-11-2015 23:21:54; asciilifeform: i'm kinda surprised they didn't fill the thing with glue and be done with it
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329975 << this was almost a thing, but then sane heads prevailed and the innards were never coated against water penetration so that the phones would still break when dropped onto damp pants
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: In truth Brodin, the All Spotter and bringer of the Whey does no have a throne. He does though have a squat rack and a bench.
assbot: A True Church - The Throne, Heaven, and the Kingdom Are God. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MwNkbQ )
deedbot-: [Trilema] Gunnery Sargeant Dop, or - The Renaissance Man - http://trilema.com/2015/gunnery-sargeant-dop-or-the-renaissance-man/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the old dinamo flashlights ?
BingoBoingo: duty. Of this, Lincoln famously wrote back, saying: "By the way, gentlemen, can either of you tell me where General Grant procures his whiskey?""
BingoBoingo: From another review: "It smells very heavily of alcohol first off, but the taste is surprisingly sweet, like candy corn and pears (but mostly bourbon:)... It is my go-to whisky, and being a Kentuckian of discerning taste, I'd like to think that says something towards it's character. Two of Ulysses S. Grant's fellow Generals were said to have complained to Lincoln personally of Grant's drunkenness and it's detriment in the line of
BingoBoingo: "Hear hear. When you buy Old Crow, you know what you're getting. Old Crow is not a night on the town with a beautiful young debutante. Old Crow is not a conversation with a craggy and learned professor. Old Crow is half an hour in a motel room with a fifty year-old prostitute who maybe doesn't look like much but still gets the job done, dammit, and sometimes that's all you want. Sometimes that's exactly what you want."
BingoBoingo: Scotch is "warm-up" whiskey to get the palate primed for rye whiskey followed by all of the cheap bourbon
mircea_popescu: isn't ammonal about on par with black powder, in the sense that if it gets wet you can go salt your food with it ?
assbot: Sean Connery , Suntory Crest, before the meeting commercial - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LuO7pU )
mircea_popescu: otherwise it'd be "WOOD ALCOHOL!!!11" all over.
asciilifeform: folks who enjoy blowing the permafrost with ammonal to dig latrine - know where to do.
punkman: from the cellar department: Suntory Yamazaki 12yo, seriously smooth https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3a/db/10/3adb107d83b463eb1ac96e792b5eeb77.jpg
mircea_popescu: been like that forever. also iirc alaska still has homestead here and there.
gribble: Times Beach, Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Beach,_Missouri>; Ill Fated Times Beach, Missouri - Legends of America: <http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mo-timesbeach.html>; S/R 7-8: The Times Beach Story (Marilyn Leistner): <http://www.greens.org/s-r/078/07-09.html>
mircea_popescu: check out google on the ball!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dude get the fuck out, missouri has a park with a view. << Truefax. There's even a tiny tram you can ride to the top of the Arch for more view
asciilifeform: they're handing out 1hectar/man, with the proviso that it cannot be sold
gribble: Full text of "I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" - Internet Archive: <https://archive.org/stream/IHopeTheyServeBeerInHell/TuckerMax-IHopeTheyServeBeerInHellebook-OcrPdf_djvu.txt>; The Now Infamous Charity Auction Debacle « TuckerMax.com: <http://tuckermax.com/stories/the-now-infamous-charity-auction-debacle/>; A Man for All Seasons (1966) - Quotes - IMDb: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google the guy with short fingers that quit duke lawschool and made a horrible movie
mircea_popescu: then made a horrible movie
mircea_popescu: and for that matter wgat's his name, the guy with short fingers that quit duke lawschool ?
mircea_popescu: the epub thing
punkman: the previous book was
mircea_popescu: "new york times best seller list" items are radically not worth cutting down the trees.
mircea_popescu: in other news, a "368 page book" reads in a coupla hours, and consists of 90% recycled website material + some letters from weird.
asciilifeform: if you like your electron microscope made from bear skin and powered by seal fat - then yes!
mircea_popescu: for the man with the skills, of course.
mircea_popescu: actually most of siberia/alaska are pretty much rent free and from what i hear rather enjoyable.
hanbot: asciilifeform by now, i dunno. old friend is about there, relegated to san jose armpit, and last i checked the only thing in his house was a box of cheezeits.
phf: ben_vulpes: just to clarify, literal translation would be that i can talk without censoring myself. but mp explained the actual meaning, that i'm not quite sure how to put in words better. it's something like, can talk on point, without revisions on account of this or that.
mircea_popescu: if you're going to throw half a million a year on living expenses why the fuck would you not just rent a raj palace in india and install human powered ac.
mircea_popescu: they made movies about how hey, "america gotta shape up soon".
mircea_popescu: everything in the us was much better in the 90s. buffett-style "i believe in america" merely sounded overoptimistic, hadn't yet caught this greenish hue of past-ridiculous senility like something found in a fridge on the side of a demolishing yard.
mircea_popescu: no, these schmucks manage to always be wrong.
mircea_popescu: for one thing - they aren't EVER right.
assbot: The Next Steve Jobs Is A 12-Year-Old Mexican Girl, Wired Magazine Says | Fox News Latino ... ( http://bit.ly/1kP8NUw )
mircea_popescu: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2013/11/01/next-steve-jobs-is-12-year-old-mexican-girl-wired-magazine-says/ << reading "the press" sixteen to thrity months later has some remarkable advantages.
hanbot: well, it had good air. the panhandlers were entertaining. i was 16.
asciilifeform: 'great' means, without exception, that there is no meat within 40m of my chair that i didn't put there.
phf: true, to be fair, anywhere is nicer then dc. i thought ascii was overly dramatic, but damn is this place bad.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking state.
mircea_popescu: dude get the fuck out, missouri has a park with a view.
phf: sf is nicer then dc though, they got a giant park with a view, and food is much better. (actual japanese and mexican foods)
asciilifeform: asked a phriend, he (with horrified face) said, 'people live differently in those parts. no one has a flat to himself, it's for extroverts, they pack'em 5+ in, they hang out in bars after the bell and only go home to sleep'
asciilifeform: and they don't pay 5x.
mircea_popescu: what is it these days ?
asciilifeform actually did the homework, even
asciilifeform: 'tis cursed by the gods.
asciilifeform turned down a gig there not long ago
kakobrekla: to be clear, by truck i mean the SUVs
asciilifeform: i had these mousetraps.
kakobrekla: so i google 'google parking lot' and get 'Google employee lives in a truck in the parking lot ' as first hit.
mircea_popescu: you live with the bureaucrats not the technocrats alf.
mircea_popescu: bout half euro imports. the rest japanese.
mircea_popescu: not that many consumer choice 1983 lebarons out there.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> as it stands now, all ''german manufacturers' are using 'us tech' and no 'us tech firm' is using a 'german manufacturer' << you ever looked in the parking lot of these "tech giants" ?
asciilifeform: omitting the x86 duopoly ?
pete_dushenski: yes, poettering, the 'us tech giant'
kakobrekla: desktops for designing (with ps) and selling the outcome with ipads
asciilifeform: if they were to attempt abandoning microshit - would be just as dependent on crapple.
pete_dushenski: this is from the perspective of 'deutschland manufaktur', recall
pete_dushenski: there are ready replacements for apple, google, amazon, and facebook
asciilifeform: 'this is a mousetrap.' 'bbbbutt there's cheeze!!11'
punkman: asciilifeform: there is porn
asciilifeform: the tards helpfully segregated themselves, why dig'em back up ?
asciilifeform doesn't have useful suggestions for viewing arsebook either
pete_dushenski: also, does anyone have a suggestion for viewing/using the tumblr dashboard that doesn't involve this latest invasion of spamz. every second fucking post is some derpy 'trending' meme that completely kills teh mood !
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the result of training idjits that their words are the most important thing and that yelling 'rape' makes the 'rapist' stop voluntarily if not arrested by the police
asciilifeform: well, there was praying mantis involved
mircea_popescu: wait, is it actually a different story ? ie, not with these ?
asciilifeform: it's a short & very lulzy yarn and none of the psychiatric weird mircea_popescu mentioned was in it...
mircea_popescu: notrly the point is it ?
mircea_popescu: meh i can't find the happy dancing mantises. a well.
asciilifeform wonders if mircea_popescu read the book in a language he actually speaks
mircea_popescu: supposedly (ro) intinate = (en) defiled, but im not too happy to it. tina is a derrogative for earth, soil. it's expected to be barren, powdery (but noit outright sand) and in generaly the equivalent of dirt.
mircea_popescu: defo one or the other.
mircea_popescu: either that or possibly doesn't give a shit about caryatids.
pete_dushenski: one of these aggressors has too much money in their pockets, while the other knows full well the value of a dollar.
mircea_popescu: well, the ~$65 in box cutters the terrorists spent did bring down a 8-10bn piece of real estate.
mircea_popescu: except the argentines fixed it that same day, and used it to land hercules for the entire duration of the conflict.
mircea_popescu: here's a primer on airstrike efficiency : the brits did 7 (SEVEN!) mid-air refuellings for one of their rustbuckets to manage to drop ONE bomb on the one runway in the faulklands, "disabling" it
mircea_popescu: "oh oh airstrike" "ok and ?" "we took out their outhouse!111"
assbot: The Aviationist » Watch this video of Iranian F-14 Tomcats escorting a Russian Tu-95 bomber during air strike in Syria ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLA15f )
pete_dushenski: too much work on the sabbath ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i get it, an entire generation of disenfranchised young russians figure they're great chaps and the fault must be in the women empowering the old farts.
gribble: Voice - Dune Wiki - Frank Herbert, David Lynch, Sandworms - Wikia: <http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Voice>; Bene Gesserit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Gesserit>; Dune (2000) - Lady Jessica using the voice against Stilgar - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDHzDOWg9gw>
mircea_popescu: ;;google "the voice" in dune
assbot: Logged on 22-11-2015 17:09:00; thestringpuller: "the wrath of alfdog" << great name for a hip hop album
mircea_popescu: isn't this the book with lena the "poor her" whore and that schmuck doing dune "the voice" v2.0 ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you gotta be thinking of some other fella
mircea_popescu: i never saw much in it (and in pelevin generally) other than "oh if only the holy tenets of TRUE socialism hadn't been /intinate/ or however you say that in russian
asciilifeform: if i ever bother to do a w4r3z scan, they could...
mircea_popescu: i guess no two people ever can read the same book
asciilifeform: it's more of the former than the latter
mircea_popescu is more into the "Brothel of intellectual lusts" take on female degradation than the flimsy political apropos take.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu would enjoy 'hall of the singing caryatids' by v. pelevin
pete_dushenski: the mines before phones or phones before mines thing
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 17:59:12; pete_dushenski: even place large quantity of gold in land mines. hell, make the land mines ~entirely~ out of gold. not like the yellow stuff has any better uses.
mircea_popescu: trotyl is more expensive than either the thing or the intended customer.
asciilifeform: i'm kinda surprised they didn't fill the thing with glue and be done with it
asciilifeform: everything about the box seemed to be ~designed~ to make repairs as miserable an affair as possible
asciilifeform: this is the hv cable for the lamps
asciilifeform: (it runs through the hinge)
mircea_popescu: how does the cable wear anyway ? badly placed fan ?
asciilifeform: used for many years, and will use until the chinese stop making parts
pete_dushenski: wtf are you doing dinking around with one on the first place ?
asciilifeform: i wouldn't either
pete_dushenski: aha. brother had it.
asciilifeform: the whateverthefuck the a1181 is.
pete_dushenski: the airbook mac then ?
asciilifeform: ('air' has no high voltage supply to the panel, as it is from led era)
asciilifeform: nah the other one.
pete_dushenski: for the unawares, what SHOULD it take ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski, ben_vulpes, et al: motherfucking crapple. ~4 hrs disassembly to swap a measely inverter cable
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mircea_popescu: "After fifteen years in the design industry and realising the only difference between sitting in front of a computer facilitating client's requests and kneeling on the urine soaked floor of a truck stop bathroom giving five dollar blowjobs to men named Chuck, is the amount of urine on the floor, the Jumping Frog fee has evolved from insurance against post-project client suggestion to client incentive to have somebody e
trinque: and my most complex queries have typically involved converting one schema to another one time, and then throwing away the queries
jurov: hahaha and then is not able to detect glaring errors...because "dis doth not exist!!111"
trinque: that's certainly so, that you either pick a sane table structure, or you write terrible queries
mircea_popescu: if one structures his tables sanely then none of these complex requests exiswt
mircea_popescu: for some reason these all sound to me like "the problems we get for having a bad db design"
trinque: that using an ORM you duplicate what the DB can already do
jurov: for me biggest prob was the consistency, in any nontrivial ORM situation you build the objects partially, must take care of constraints... db that defers checking constraints to commit would help, but then how do you report it to user... hairiness
trinque: this is not the point
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